On Bad Faith: 7
Making an old post sticky- for a day or two.
My response to insults, slights and potential abuse often comes across as harsh, vindictive and inhumane. However there is a method behind this strategy.
After coming here at 20, I did initially try to socialize and make friends/acquaintances in a fairly systematic manner. However it was quickly obvious to me that conventional routes of socialization were not useful for me, as I was non-white. Even though I repeatedly tried numerous activities such as amateur team sports, group activities, going to bars/pubs with acquaintances etc- it was never the same. I simply could not get into any core group.
I was tolerated at the peripheries of groups, occasionally invited to a few house parties, but never part of the real ‘fun’ stuff.
It was also very obvious that visiting whites from other countries faced none of my problems, even if English was not their first language. The red carpets always rolled out for them, everyone wanted to talk to them, invite them to more parties/events, date them etc.
I have seem multiple 20-something women throw themselves at a 30-something balding dutch guy (tall but average), and give me dirty looks if I even tried to chat them up. I have seem a borderline-mental french guy (average looks) get unsolicited phone numbers, once girls knew he was french. I have seen girls offer city tours to a spanish guy (semi-handsome) they had seen a couple of times before.
Could go on.. but you get the point. Paradoxically, this behavior is almost never seen when the guy is Asian, Indian, Middle-Eastern even if he is equally rich/educated/OK looking. Any guesses about the reasons behind this differential behavior?
The most spectacular examples of such discriminatory behavior is seen when North-American women interact with highly educated white and brown British men. The white British guy is seen as a catch, while the brown British guy (born and raised in UK) though often more educated and richer, is seen as a second-/ third- rate choice.
Now, one can conjure up any number of reasons or justifications for this behavior, but it does not change the outcome. You have just given these non-white men a very good reason to return the favor by dehumanizing you. You can bet that these men are not going to play nice with you. As long as they were not part of the working age group in significant numbers/percentages- this shit could go on. But white demographic trends are what they are..
So what will happen when such men, and more like them, become part of your working age population. Remember that the average Asian, Indian and Middle-Easterner is usually more educated/smarter than the average White. They also do not have a ‘jim crow’ type legacy. Do you think that most will just forget it and play in good faith? Kinda like the Iraqis greeting americans as liberators – how did that work out?
An even more important question is whether the even larger cohort of younger members of these groups have experienced similar behavior and attitudes. Moreover, younger first-generation non-white immigrants (born after 1970) also do not see such attitudes as acceptable, unlike older generations of non-white immigrants.
What will happen when a significant portion of the younger and highly educated/skilled population has no strong connection or liking for a rapidly aging white population?
It unlikely that they will join together to overthrow whites and ‘process’ them in incinerators.
However
Every single functional society requires a social contract that almost everyone (over 90%) will adhere to without force- most of the time. Legal contracts are a poor substitute for unwritten social contracts, and at best complement them. Social contracts are, by definition, unwritten and reasonably flexible. However social contracts of all types require both parties (society and individual) to gain something, and those individuals who gain nothing or significantly less than others have no reason to keep playing in good faith. A less complex society can handle a bad social contract much better than a more complex and interconnected one. But no social system can function without a widely accepted social contract.
In case you have not figured it out- such men, are by definition, outside your social contract… and they know it.
Comments?
hope u dont mind my asking , what ethnicity are u of?
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Does it matter?
just curious. its ok if u dont want to divulge it!
There’s an Asian guy who’s noticed the same thing when it comes to race and pickup in North America. His answer is to expat to cultures that have friendlier, non racist women or simply take trips to these countries. Some guys date locals or use escorts. His website is happierabroad.com.
This isn’t spam. Much of his essays about North American culture, dating and women could have been written by you.
We have to understand that this is his response. One of many reactions to the condition that he has described. Whether we agree with him or not, it constitutes as a perspective. Evil, sadistic, bitter, yet fascinating.
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What I did to her was pretty low on sadism scale.
Trying to socialize as a geek is also a big problem.
Carrying around that much anger and frustration is self defeating.
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Not if you take it out on deserving targets.
BTDT. If you can get past it, you’ll be both happier and more successful.
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My way of getting past it involves returning the behavior with interest.
I work and socialize with a number of ethnicities, I treat them like people. But I’m a geek, so what do I know?
I hope those attacks were working for you. I don’t see what you are getting out of it.
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Acting in bad faith is very easy and profitable.
I don’t know why you’re taking it out on American women when it seems your problem is American society. Why not take it out on the men instead?
And sure race comes into place, but it does everywhere, for example Singapore. Arguably Chinese people are more racist than white americans who live in Silicon Valley.
Although, IMHO this anger isn’t going to do anyone any good (especially you). Why let it eat you up from the inside.
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I just take it out on people.
If you’re as I think you are a mid thirties Indian man working in Silicon Valley as a software engineer and I think you’re British Indian you shouldn’t have any problems getting a quality girl American girl for an LTR if that’s what you want.
For example, how about doing online dating and targeting New York women. Set up a few dates over a long weekend, fly over and meet up with them. If you’re a twenty something woman on the NY dating scene who wants to settle down, an *interesting and sexy* software engineer from the valley is going to have a good catch.
If your aim is on the other hand to get different 8+s in the valley to have sex with you every week then it’s going to be harder. Sorry, life isn’t fair.
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Then expect the same.
It’s no different to how the jocks get the girls in high schools.
You’re also better off as someone advised studying the American caste system and thinking about who to approach.
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As I like to say, who cares?
I take that back, you’re not British Indian.
My experience with race has been completely different. I don’t know if it’s the parts of the country that we’ve spent time in or just a matter of perspective.
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You have lived in and around NY, enough said.
Most of the white girls I’ve fucked have been in North Carolina.
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How many in all? I remember you once put a graph on your website.
15
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Not bad.. but you will develop a different view when you reach an ‘unpaid’ count of between 50 and 100.
Accents are like catnip to American Women, as long as the voice is coming from a White mouth.
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Yep! and that will be a far bigger issue in the future than those stupid cunts realize.
John Mayer may have a David Duke dick, but millions of American Women have never left the “white” side of the plantation.
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and they should should not expect the rising percentage of non-white men in the working age population to care.
American girls are stupid.
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They are all stupid, regardless of color and nationality. It is their basic thought processes that are the problem.
All I have to do is tell them that I’m from London (not even say that I live there) and they tell me that I sound so British.
I don’t even have to put on a fake accent!
hahahahaha,
I think you will have to get a mail order bride from Thailand….don’t let her eat at McDonald’s though, otherwise she will get fat.
AD, if I remember correctly, you criticized white nationalism a few weeks ago. As your experience bears out, white men feel a natural affection for their own kind.
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Even after you are all dead?
If we want to condemn whites for this, also condemn blacks and chinese who do the same. Anything else is inconsistant and a double standard.
You might consider your method before blaming it all on someone else. Even sitting here reading, I get a major sense of a bad attitude. This is of course your blog, but in real life, it’s not attractive, even in friends.
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It is easier to ignore or kill people than change their attitudes.
It clings to the words in your post – how much more I would sense in the flesh. I advise learning some PU and applying it not just to women, but to everyone.
Where I am it’s the opposite. Being dark skinned, and dark haired (black or Arab) in Europe means you’ll be side stepping all those native white guys and going straight for the white poon.
I liked Vincent Ignatius’s blog. Too bad he shut it down.
AD (or anybody who knows), is he Indian?
@Deus
Does circumcision have something to do with it, do you think?
Is that a serious question? I’m pretty sure most black guys aren’t circumcised. I’ve talked about it with alpha Arab friends. This one in particular isn’t banging middle eastern chicks, just white chicks. All The. Time.
Go to Germany. German women (especially in the major cities) will fuck anyone who isn’t teutonic/Baltic/Scandinavian in appearance. Plus, the holocaust guilt prevents them from being too standoffish.
White chicks don’t want to fuck with white guys. They rather fuck dark skinned thugs. The older sister of a friend of mine, who is from a well off upper middle class family, just hooked up with a black guy from her nursing job. He’s 30, lives with his mom, is not particularly good looking, and has other children from other women. She wants to have a baby by him.
Meanwhile, I and my fellow white friends of Scandinavian and Baltic origin are living a life of involuntary celibacy and in some cases extended virgin-hood. Girls won’t have anything to do with us. We look younger, both because of genetics, and because we have light traits which are associated with female traits or childish traits (think how blond blue eyed women are idolized, now ask yourself if the same is done with blond blue-eyed men).
What options do we have? Well, I for one plan to move to Asia. My personal experience has been that, like the dark skinned invaders in Europe who are favored for reproduction by local females, tall white guys with blond hair and blue eyes are favored by oriental women. I went to Japan in 2004, when I was 14, and I was hit on by milfs, mid-twenty something chicks and bus loads of schoolgirls (literally). In contrast, I’ve had one girlfriend here, which was almost 5 years ago, and I’ve been hit on by a handful of gays (which doesn’t interest me). Here, I’m invisible because of my genes. On the other side of the planet, that’s a different story.
So Deus you plan on moving to Asia where asia women see white men as a thing for to get money and social status yet hate on white women who see color men as some form of social status or getting back at their white male oppressiver . And I not to sure it a good idea just to move to a different country just get some pussy for work yeah but pussy no.
First, if Asian women are the only women in the world who want men that make money, explain US divorce. Second, I live in Europe. No young person with any opportunity wants to work here. Taxes are high, social security will be bankrupt within 20 years, so we’ll be paying into it and not getting any back
I’m following the advice of billionaire Jim Roggers. Britain was the place to move to in the 19th Century. America was the place to move to in the 20th. Asia is the place to go to in the 21st. America is done. AD talks about this all the time. So do many others. Anyone with a brain and basic economic knowledge can see what’s coming for my generation because of baby boomer spending and uncontrolled immigration.
The West is fucked.
Concerning women: Why do men work and make money? Don’t give me that personal fulfillment crap. Men get money to get laid.
Can you really blame a white guy who just wants a little action for hating both white chicks who can’t stop fucking blacks and Arabs while leaving me and my friends to pay for the prisons to house their bastard spawn. At best we get to be captain “I’ve had my fun, time to settle down”. Fuck That!!
But, from a purely objective viewpoint, I can see the brilliance of this large scale reproductive strategy, and can see the biological mechanics behind them. I plan to use these same biological mechanics to get what I want elsewhere.
Deus that first part of what your saying about china becoming the place to be if you want work maybe true giving how the west is turning out. But that part about how all men work and make money to get laid I don’t know if that true all of them there are men who because they see as a means to live life how they want too. Such as being able to do whatever they want to do when they want to do it and buy what they want without having to ask for the right to do so from their wife or girlfriend. And then their some men who work because they see it as a way to pay for there quiet and peaceful life.
Also Deus I don’t blame you for being angry about not getting laid . is just I don’t want you to get use up by a women because she know all the right words to said to you and the all the right moves to make so you can lower your guard down so she can have a firm grip on your mind and action. It just I always get this bad feeling when I see dudes putting women on pedestals and it don’t matter if the women are from the north,east,south or west.
Because Deus more or less everyone is like that no get involve with anyone unless they can get something out of them rather it money, social status, emotional fulfillment or what have you nothing in life is for free it all come with so kinda price. I just hate seeing more or less a good man pay the price.
I appreciate the concern voltronblack. I also appreciate the maturity of your response. Many guys I’ve had this discussion with fall back to shaming language and name calling.
I’m not putting Asian women on pedestals. However I am acknowledging that Asian culture is much more male friendly, and that because of my origin and looks, getting laid there will be a lot easier than here. Mostly I just need to get out of Europe. A few years back I though the US would be my salvation, but I went and ran screaming the other direction a year later.
Make no mistake about me. I do not have marriage or children in mind, unless I can have a child without a woman. I wouldn’t bother having a child with an Asian woman, because I want the kid to look like me. I also want 100% guarantee I’d have a son if I ever did have a child, so no “faith births” for me (see GATTACA).
I want to live in a country where there is low crime, living is cheap, and where there is a lot of corruption (little government control means freedom). I have my eyes set on the Philippines or Thailand. My plan is to get an expat job with a large western corporation, work until I’m 50, save, save, save and live frugally, then retire early and chill on a beach, sipping pinacolatas and having two twenty something babes I can’t have now hanging on each arm.
ok man that cool good see that you have a plan of attack instead of wild out like how most dudes do when they go to a different country.
Y’know it’s really good you are not a white dude because otherwise you sound like a serial killer in the making….