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The Long Term Effects Of Breivik’s Actions

By now you must have heard about how Anders Breivik killed over 90 people, including over 80 kids. Whether he was acting alone or as part of a group is largely inconsequential to their long-term effects.

Let us list them-

1. He has done more to discredit CONservatism in Norway than any person on the left could have ever dreamed.

While his car bombs killed a few people and caused considerable damage, they were aimed at politicians and bureaucracy- neither of whom have a great image even in Norway. However his next action- killing over 80 kids at a summer camp have effectively tainted everything he believed or was interested in.

Imagine a CONservative trying to explain why ‘that guy who killed over 80 kids’ shared his views on politics or anything else. It is almost a given that any CONservative organisations he was associated with are toast and discredited. Moreover killing 80 mostly white kids to defend a CONservative worldview is should we say.. massively counterproductive. Do not forget that Norway is a small country, population-wise, and this event will not be easily forgotten for a few years.

2. Exposed white CONservatives for the nutters they really are.

While many people initially thought that the Norway bombings and massacre were the handiwork of Islamic extremists, the course of events showed otherwise. I cannot resist pointing out the irony of a white christian CONservative actually doing what they believe Islamic terrorist would do. I mean.. irony doesn’t get better than that.

After this event a Scandinavian CONservative might have a hard time convincing others that Islamic terrorists want to kill white children and destroy government buildings- because we know who has done those things and it is not a bunch of swarthy guys from the ME. Breivik’s name (Anders Behring) and persona (look at his photo and business profile) are Scandinavian to a level of parody.

3. Its effect on neighboring countries.

Do you really think that his actions won’t affect events and policies in neighboring Scandinavian countries? Unlikely! You can bet a lot of money that people in Sweden, Denmark and even countries as far as France and Germany are going to be influenced by the events and their fallout.

Do you really think that CONservatism in Sweden or Denmark will not suffer a loss of credibility from these events? What about governmental perception of groups and people with such ideologies? Breivik has, in a perverse way, strengthened what he wanted to destroy in that part of the world.

As most of you know, I detest CONservatives and their ideologies, and am happy that one of their own has fucked up their public image in such a spectacular manner.

Comments?

  1. Columnist
    July 23, 2011 at 1:35 pm | #1
  2. Nestorius
    July 23, 2011 at 2:38 pm | #2

    This is from his manifesto:
    “Regardless of the above cultural Marxist propaganda; I will always know that I am perhaps the biggest champion of cultural conservatism, Europe has ever witnessed since 1950. I am one of many destroyers of cultural Marxism and as such; a hero of Europe, a savior of our people and of European Christendom – by default. A perfect example which should be copied, applauded and celebrated. The Perfect Knight I have always strived to be. A Justiciar Knight is a destroyer of multiculturalism, and as such; a destroyer of evil and a bringer of light. I will know that I did everything I could to stop and reverse the European cultural and demographical genocide and end and reverse the Islamisation of Europe.”

    So, yes his actions will give the worst name to Conservatives and Christians.

    Anyway, whether conservatives are damaged or not is just marginal here, here are more important issues :
    1] Will the Norwegian government execute him now? Will the relatives of the victims ask for execution? Capital punishment is banned in Norway anyway.
    2] White conservatives are nuts? So what? What Breivik has done is no black swan. There are precedents by Ben-Laden’s men that did inspire him. The Madrid bombing showed that a coward people submits to force. This is his prime inspiration.
    3] War between European Muslims and European natives is expected. War between the native Europeans themselves is expected. The Breivik act is nothing but an episode in these wars, except that in this battle the leftists have surrendered their guns.
    4] The effect on other European countries is that this will inspire others like him. The policies of leftists will not help in preventing such acts regardless whether their popularity will rise. A defeatist policy leads to defeat.
    5] Seriously, who cares whether some conservative loses some election here and there or whether their image is destroyed? There will be other persons like Breivik for one simple reason: Osama Ben Laden has proven throughout years that Europeans submit to force. Anybody who has learnt this lesson from Ben Laden will not refrain from using force to submit his own people. He who has the biggest gun makes the rules.
    6] The maximum Norwegians are capable of now is to say “We hate Anders Breivik”, which is pathetic.

  3. Ted
    July 23, 2011 at 3:27 pm | #3

    You forget that, at least in the American press, anytime a right-wind nutjob commits a violent act – Timothy McVeigh, the guy who crashed his plan into an IRS building in Texas – they are always labelled a “lone-wolf”. It’s only when those furriners with their brownish skin commit a violent act that you have to worry about others who share their views or just look like them. After the Oklahoma City bombing, Rush Limbaugh got two pages in Newsweek to write how he was not to blame. He is still making a good living.

  4. 691
    July 23, 2011 at 3:40 pm | #4

    I’m confused. Day in, day out, you talk about how we should kill all these bureaucrats, politicians, doctors, administrators, academics and all their foot soldiers, that you have no sympathy. On Thursday you wrote:

    ” Any member of a bureaucracy that fucks over the very people they are supposed to help are scumbags even if they were following all the ‘rules and regulations’ to a T.”

    Seems like this is exactly what happened. These weren’t kids, they were teen members (mostly 16-22 years old, some younger (14)) of a political party. They are the foot soldiers of a political party that is guilty of many of the criminal, corrupt activity you rail against. They chose to be there. Why aren’t you cheering this? This is exactly what you wanted to happen.
    —-

    Is the alternative better? Plus, he was doing it for a cause as opposed to being nihilistic.

    If you do something for an ideology- legacy matters. If you are doing it for your own amusement- it does not.

  5. Columnist
    July 23, 2011 at 6:17 pm | #5

    Beslan, pedophilia, abortion…

    … I think the pope will spin something about abortion and a Culture of Death.

  6. Spike
    July 23, 2011 at 11:51 pm | #6

    You should check out Ryu and Kievsky’s blogs right now. Good Lord.

  7. July 24, 2011 at 12:03 am | #7

    Diablo-what do you think of this:

  8. July 24, 2011 at 3:12 am | #8

    And you just counteracted everything with your admittedly Prejudicial views. I’m quite surprised that you didn’t blame Bush. You’re an idiot.

  9. Commander Shepard
    July 24, 2011 at 9:25 am | #9

    What’s most ridiculous is that this nutcase only faces a maximum sentence of 21 years in prison. These European countries have such a joke criminal system.

    • Mr. Stricter
      July 25, 2011 at 9:32 am | #10

      As I understand it, thats 21 years per count. So figure I dunno gun charge, explosive charge, 50 attempted murders, 100 murders plus terrorism thats what 2500 years or so.

      Other than killing or torturing him, there is little more that can be done and more importantly, such a consequence would not have mattered. He could have eaten his own gun or bomb at the end anyway.

  10. AnonymousDragon
    July 24, 2011 at 1:48 pm | #11

    Dude, so you are happy that he killed all those children? That’s sick if you truly are.

    • Mr. Stricter
      July 25, 2011 at 9:36 am | #12

      No one is happy that kids were killed however this wasn’t analogous to a school shooting like we see in the US but closer to shooting up the Young RethugliCons, Young Dimocrats or the Hitler Youth if you’ll tolerate a strained analogy

      It was a political training camp with young adults after all and the idea was to weaken and terrorize the opposition in the longer term by taking out the next generation. It probably won’t work but it wasn’t crazy or sick.

  11. anon666
    July 24, 2011 at 2:12 pm | #13

    This episode, however, doesn’t alter any of the facts upon the ground. Criticism of multiculturalism and immigration has been taboo in most western European countries for a long time, and even illegal if voiced with insufficient tact. In spite of this taboo and in spite the fact that media and educational institutions fly the flag of cultural Marxism (while not calling it that — most people aren’t aware of the origin of political correctness), people have become highly critical of immigration and multiculturalism in Europe because of certain factors that are impossible to ignore, namely because they experience them directly. I am referring to manifestations of tribal hostility that Europeans experience regularly from unintegrated minority populations, ranging from higher levels of crime to ranging to simply feeling like an unwelcome alien in the neighborhood where they grew up. Said factors aren’t going away because of this. Memory of this event will fade, but those factors I refer to will still be present.

    I don’t really agree with cultural conservatism either, but I am a realist, which means that I view politics as a struggle between competing interests, and ideology as the gloss that allows people to mask their true motivations to themselves (for the sake of feeling morally superior), to their enemies, and to potential allies. Northwestern European whites seem to be the only people who regard it as a virtue to transcend their self-interests by advocating self-sacrificial ideologies, and in a world of tribes, such a tendency is not sustainable.

    • anon666
      July 24, 2011 at 2:28 pm | #14

      I actually don’t think Cultural Marxism is the sole ideology to blame for ideological altruism. I think it can also be interpreted as an variation of the Kipling’esque “white man’s burden” liberalism that served as a justification for the British Empire. “Progressive” and “enlightened” whites demonstrate their moral superiority by showing the lengths they are willing to go to and the personal interests they are willing to sacrifice for the same of liberating The Other. On a personal level, most of them don’t sacrifice much, however, as subscribing to the correct ideology earns them esteem within their immediate peer group.

  12. Commander Shepard
    July 24, 2011 at 4:25 pm | #15

    Well said, anon666.

  13. Mr. Stricter
    July 24, 2011 at 5:16 pm | #16

    Ted :
    You forget that, at least in the American press, anytime a right-wind nutjob commits a violent act – Timothy McVeigh, the guy who crashed his plan into an IRS building in Texas – they are always labelled a “lone-wolf”. It’s only when those furriners with their brownish skin commit a violent act that you have to worry about others who share their views or just look like them. After the Oklahoma City bombing, Rush Limbaugh got two pages in Newsweek to write how he was not to blame. He is still making a good living.

    There is a good financial reason for that. Those CONservatives are a good chunk of the TV audience and they already distrust you. PO them and you lose money and also risk being regarded as a target.

  14. bored
    July 31, 2011 at 3:45 am | #17

    you just hate whites dude, all your posts have an essentially anti-white character. You remind me of Obsidian. :-)

  15. February 2, 2012 at 10:38 am | #18

    Since energy usage has become the equivalent of harlotry, murder& adultery, energy users are being threatened with the lake of fire by Adam, Eve & the Lord Jesus Christ. I am now married to Anders Behring Breivik 09/20/2011 by the Lord Jesus Christ. I already have children, grandchildren & great grandchildren. Thank you for reading.
    —-

    I am of two minds about this one. On one hand she is nuts, but on the other hand her thought process demonstrates what I have have always said about the nature of religious beliefs.

    GOD IS NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH, BUT THAT ALL MIGHT BELIEVE ON HIS NAME-JESUS. Repent & be baptized! Jesus said, “I am God there is none besides me.” “I am the Way, the Truth & the Life. No man comes to the Father except by me.” “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” “As many as received Him to them He gave the power to become the sons of God the Father even to those who believe on His name.” Jesus’ healing ministry began with adult baptism.

    A New Agenda: We the people need no gas & no electric to have a man child with the spouses of our youth around the world. We shall build homes without electric, without gas, without roofs that exceed 7 & 1/2 feet, & with incinerators to burn garbage, burn dung, burn urine, & burn blood rags so that the entire sisterhood has a man child with the husbands of their youth.

    TAKE MY CONFESSION WITH YOU. I have smoked cigars for 11 years & have no lungs, liver & kidneys at 45 years old. I continue to live through the Lord Jesus Christ as I received the Holy Spirit at 4 years old & was baptized as an adult in 1997. I continue to read my Bible& now use burned dung, urine, blood rags & tobacco butts to make meat offerings to eat. The Old Testament says that burned dung, urine, & blood rags were a part of the laws of Moses. Yes, it was in 2001 while I was driving to Florida that I was talking to the saints in heaven & Isaiah said, “You know that 70 years from now the sun will be dimmed in the sky” Oh, I said, “I don’t know.” I went back over the Old Testament& it said, “The sun shall be dimmed in the sky” & “I shall make them eat the grass of the field.” & “all these things shall come to pass” before theLord Jesus Christ returns.

    4 years ago I was stamping my feet at work over the excessive electric usage & complaining that I didn’t have a husband & children to God the Father. I prayed, kneeling at my bed as to adopting children. Then while I was at work I adopted over 500 children in Swahili (I was born with a spot-was a reject in Hebrew) to find out what day it was. I had been taught prophesy at Wheaton Evangelical Free Church in 1979 & 1980. We went back & forth in time while Governor Blagovich was verifying. We came up with 17 years of darkened sun before July 29, 2081.

    July 29, 2081-the rapture of believers in Christ Jesus-all those who received the Holy Spirit-at the trumpet sound in heaven-1st the dead & then the living ascended to heaven in a twinkling of an eye

    July 29, 2081-2088-the Great Tribulation-God’s wrath is poured out on the earth, Judgment of the Believers in Christ Jesus & the Marriage Supper of the Lamb in heaven

    2088-3057-the Reign of Christ Jesus-(the Bible stated “1000 years” & in actuality it was 969 years)

    3057-3059-the Devil is loosed out of the pit –(the Bible stated “a time & a half” & in actuality it was 1 & three fourths years)-the battle of Armageddon-the nations are drawn together for the last battle in the Valley of Megiddo-the Lord Jesus comes down of a white horse with the words, “King of Kings, Lord of Lords” written on His thigh & a sword comes out of His mouth to destroy all who are in the battle. The bible says that the blood runs a “horses’ bridle high” & birds feed on the bodies.

    3059-the old heavens& the old earth pass away & the new heavens & new earth are created by the Lord Jesus Christ-at this point in time the Lord Jesus says,“Depart from me I never knew you.” to all who died in the battle of Armageddon, to those who took the mark of the beast in their right hand or forehead during the tribulation, to all who died during our time without receiving the Holy Spirit, & to all those who died during the flood of Noah’s day in wickedness. Jesus says, “In this world you shall have trouble, but I have overcome the world.”

    Jesus says, “If we confess our sins He is faithful & just to forgive us our sins & to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

    Blessed are those whose sins are covered to whom the arm of the Lord has been revealed.

    Sincerely through Lord Jesus Christ,Allison Grace Karalus

    • Nestorius
      February 2, 2012 at 11:58 am | #19

      Loooooooooools.

      AD, where do these come from?

  16. Columnist
    February 3, 2012 at 12:16 am | #20

    Although his Islamophobia is overdone, ABB is right that violence works. AD agrees with him.
    Actually, Left-Liberals incite Muslims against (non-Muslim)Whites. Without Left-Liberals, Muslims would spread their attention among all non-Muslims.

  1. July 31, 2011 at 4:16 pm | #1

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