How to Use Escorts: IV
In a previous post on this subject, I had talked about using online resources to optimize your experience with escorts. I will answer the other half of the question today: agency or independent contractor?
Before I say anything more, remember this:
If you are a newbie, your best experience will probably with a well-researched escort from an established, but not too expensive agency.
Now there are some caveats about using agencies:
1. Never use an agency that boasts of an elite client base. They are just lazy, snobby ripoffs.
2. Never use agencies that require you to pay in advance.
3. Stop patronizing any agency that sides with a gal you had to send back. Trust me, that happens.
4. Anything above 300$/hr and without MSOG is not worth it, no exceptions!
If you perform enough background research and use common sense, you will have a very pleasurable experience with an agency escort. It also helps that many agencies have lots of new faces, and the owners appreciate good repeat customers.
The quality of independent contractors can vary greatly, however as long as you perform a skeptical review check and take common sense precautions- you will be fine. Indeed the true gems in the escort business are often independent contractors.
As many of you know, escorts can be either incalls or outcalls. While each type has its pros and cons, which I discuss in a future article- outcalls are often the safer option. Also note that established agencies do not send any man/ driver along with your outcall to your door, and that is one of the sure signs of a scam or shakedown. The usual pattern involves somebody or a cab to drop her off, a quick phone call that she has reached, and one after the hour (or more) is over when someone or a cab to pick her up. That is it! Anything more than that is a bad sign, and feel free to bailout of such a scenario.
Any man who accompanies escorts to your door, hangs around in your house, property, floor of hotel is a sign of a scam or amateurs. At most, the guy can sit in the lobby/ bar of the hotel. Also be very suspicious of more than one guy accompanying the escort.
I have more suggestions for things to watch out for when using incalls, in my next post in this series. After that I will talk about massage parlours etc..
And one more thing:
If an escort is significantly different from her online description (official or reviews), send her away. You should not have to pay 200-300$ for an inferior lay, that is what committed men do.. Every wonder why the same word is used for a man in a relationship and one in a mental asylum?
I think is no need to worry about this kind of problems because most of High Class Escort agencies don’t want to lose their client doing things taht they could damage theyr reputation.
And yes is ethical to use an escort service because most of the business mans don t have time to invest into an real relationship and this is the easyest way to do it.
What does payment in advance mean? Does it mean pay before they even send the girl? Or does it mean pay the girl the moment she shows up?
It means they ask for the money as soon as they arrive. It is almost always a set up for a “cash and dash”.
Best counter is
“This is the money. I am putting it in the safe. You will have it at the end of the hour. You have my word. I’ve been burned once before so if this is a problem then here is $20 for gas and have a good night.”
The honest ones will understand and be cool with it. The dishonest ones will get hostile.
Generally avoid black pimps or blacks in general and you will be fine.
“Generally avoid black pimps or blacks in general and you will be fine.”
So, you’re saying this to say what?
Escorts are a lot more likely to have a “dine and dash” situationtthan a big strong man having an itty bitty gurl stiff him. .
That’s why escorts in Canada ask for an envelope with payment within the first 5 minutes.
A woman stupid enough to take a guy’s word after the fact is stupid enough to slip on a number of things. You could end up with a few new friends you weren’t counting on.
hello mr. crapacoli ana-linguist,
did you ever have a few drinks, y’know for the vasofacilatory effects and then find out she was really a he? did that turn out to be one of your better experiences?
Rock On !
Stoner With a Boner
I am a licensed masseuse in Manhattan and have an ivy undergrad degree , and am working on an ivy masters. while I am not an escort I am a licensed masseuse with great hands and offer a topless massage.
I do not allow touching and most of the the time the client is on their stomach and can’t see me anyway.
I used to model for a top modeling agency and am better looking then 99% of the population without one ounce of make-up.
I have amazing hands and am a class act. I charge 250 /hr and am booked whenever I choose to be and am offered tips and get gifts form my regulars who truly enjoy my company.
You get what you pay for.
I am so over sleazy men hunting for cheap sleaze. I do not pretend to be sexually attracted to my clients and it is truly just business.
Whoever wrote this had never been with a godess! Cheap bastard. I would never have sex with a mna for money but If I did hew would be buying me a condo and a new jag!
Do nto listen to this fool. go for the gusto. Do nto be a fool. I agree if a girl does nto look liek the photo you saw send her away….but do expect a breath taking stunner to show up for
200 or 300…GET REAL. I have had a few of my clients( no sex or anything…not so much as kiss….) give me a couple thousand dollars for dinner dates that lasted 2 or 3 hours.
My clients look to spend money on real top shelf quality. Save up if you have to but if you are going to book a girl for a massage or an escort experience at least let your jaw drop when you open your door and she crosses your thresh-hold…NUFF SAID!
Meh. I dunno, I’ve spoken to a lot of women, and even the seemingly good one’s seem very self-seeking to me (even if they don’t know it themselves). I’d say the chances of finding an actually good (not selfish) girl that would genuinely care about you, and not what you give her, are pretty slim – especially in today’s age where people are so spoiled with instant gratification of all kinds. Given that, I see two paths – shun women all-together and learn to live happily as a celibate (become a monk or something), or do what this guy is doing, don’t get married, and pay for sex. I personally would think the former would be more fulfilling and sensible since it truly free’s you from any kind of dependence on women whatever, besides the fact that one had to birth you to bring you into the God-forsaken world. I’m honestly near the point where I no longer even desire sex because, well, I’m so disgusted with most of the women I meet. (Foreign women from Eastern Europe, India, and Asia have been better/nicer, though). I’m practically celibate already.
That’s probably one of the saddest things I’ve ever heard…I’m sorry you’re so jaded, but there are nice women out there who don’t give two shits about money. I’m an escort and I do it because I love sex, the money’s just a bonus. But I’ve dated men like you. In fact one man in particular who I fell in love with couldn’t fall in love with me because he couldn’t trust such a thing [or such a woman] existed, someone who didn’t care about his wallet. It’s really a shame…and he broke my heart.
@Sandi:
You’re an escort … don’t you need more customers?
In fact one man in particular who I fell in love with couldn’t fall in love with me because he couldn’t trust such a thing [or such a woman] existed, someone who didn’t care about his wallet. It’s really a shame…and he broke my heart.
Women complain about the men that don’t commit …
because they ignore or drive away the men that WILL commit.
They think marriage is for losers,
because the man that marries them …
marries them after the women can no longer attract the “badboys”, as her looks, health and mental strength have faded.
There are many general observations that successfully encompass women according to their behavior, but this regards women’s personalities and it’s impossible to categorize all women under one description, such as what you gave. I’m not offended, honestly I wish some women wouldn’t ruin it for the rest of us, but I really don’t want you to create a general observation on your limited experiences. There are good women, believe it or not. Maybe I’m naive, but I rather hold on to the good I often find than find comfort in the commonly found bad.
@Teresa
honestly I wish some women wouldn’t ruin it for the rest of us, but I really don’t want you to create a general observation on your limited experiences.
Here is a simple experiment for your reality-challenged brain:
Go to a shopping complex and observe the couples.
In 99.999% of cases, the man is taller than the woman.
If women truly were egalitarian and charitable, 50% of all marriages would be between women who were taller than their boyfriends. They’re not, and this simple experiment illustrates their hypocrisy, because women CHOOSE who to be in relationships with.
Another thing is that women can forgive handsome men killing their friends or relatives or cheating on them … much harder for them to do so if it’s an ugly guy.
Women are way more superficial than men.
So don’t get scared or angry that many smart men nowadays are staying away from long term relationships.
Enjoy eating your self-generated lies, they must be pretty tasty.
I agree with you that women can be so terrible. Especially when the media makes us seem completely superficial and selfish. And even in real life, women can be such jerks! I’m not angry at you for thinking that or at the world for the way it seems, because I agree that men can, at times, be more respectable. But looking back on what you have read on this blog, aren’t you blaming your sexual disposition and desires on a relationship’s unsatisfactory tendencies? You justify using prostitutes because it’s “simpler” and “hassle free.” Right?
Regardless of it being acceptable, using escorts to replace your desires for one woman is self-seeking. You avoid the hard stuff of a relationship, like sacrifices and commitment, and pay your way to fulfill your needs all based on an assumption that no woman out there is worth the rest. Let’s be honest, you’re not paying an escort to help her business, you do it for yourself.
Yes, women are needy and stupid and irrational. I agree that most are superficial, but trust me when I say that not all of them are. You can at least count that I am not, and isn’t an exception enough to invalidate a general theory? I guess you don’t know me so it’s not a strong argument, but the thing is that I am not here to prove you wrong. Honestly, I read this while researching brothel discussion boards. I work with underage girls rescued out of sexual trafficking, and originally I just wanted to make sure that DA was not encouraging using under age girls. I just replied to your comment because it hurt seeing that, so forgive me if my optimistic points of view disgust you. But even if they’re lies, they allow me to seek the best in people, which only makes loving easier. I don’t have a problem with that.
“Trust me when I say that not all hand grenades are like that.” Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Teresa, you must be new to the manly-o-sphincter. NAWALT is a thoroughly refuted argument. Moreover, those women who are the quickest to claim that they are “not like that” are precisely the ones that are the most “like that”.
All women are actually literally one and the same woman. There exists and has existed only one woman throughout history, shapeshifting into various guises.
http:// google .com/search?q=nawalt
http:// youtube .com/results?search_query=nawalt
@Teresa:
I work with underage girls rescued out of sexual trafficking, and originally I just wanted to make sure that DA was not encouraging using under age girls.
Age of consent varies by country, You can’t police the world.
And sorry to say, for me at least: I don’t plan on becoming the retirement plan for a former cockhopper.
P.S. I’ve seen many women from my university … notorious sluts that is, turn up at church, synagogue, mosque, and temple:
dressed in white (signifying virginity).
When such betrayal is rampant, condoned and APPROVED (since I’m sure the parents know, with multiple boyfriends – those women are not playing fingerpainting): it gives me great pleasure to know that more men are waking up to the fact that they are only seen as an end zone for women who could not keep up with their alpha-thug-studly-bigdick-mcbadboy.
Wow! To what you said and to all the womens replys regarding their disbelief of the stance you’ve taken after many bad experiences. I’m sitting here in disbelief myself since i’m wondering when i wrote this, changed my username and have no recolection of it. Hahaha! Yeah, It’s exactly the stance i have begun to fall into. Not much to elaborate on, you covered the basics. I’m even of the same oopinion regarding Europeans. My girlfriend of 7 or so years after my firstr wife was so wonderful, and i didnt deserve her. And she really loved me. Just me. Not what i had or what job i had or what i made or what i drove. Thats about all i want to add since you summed it up so simply. I wish it were different, but i seem to keep hitting a reoccuring theme that matches my first wife’s of “keeping up withthe Jones” and always never having enuf or having the good stuff. Spend spend spend and then blame the man for not making enuf or working too much. Its a lose lose situation. Then you are no longer a man to them. I wish it were different.
@ Theresa Good stuff.
P.Ray wrote
Go to a shopping complex and observe the couples.
In 99.999% of cases, the man is taller than the woman.
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who cares if you look good, you sound like u got a terrible personality anyway. I’d never touch you if I had a choice.
and before you go boasting about about being in an ivy league college and shit, u should realize that its not that big of an accomplishment. I know people that have paid their way into those schools. Most of them will probably end up working for someone else anyway…like you HA
Thank you thank you thank you, some one with sense. I AM a working girl, but not your typical. I live a very normal lifestyle outside of work and I have sound morals. This man is narrow minded and I doubt he will ever be able to find happiness with a woman longer than an hour in his life because the
Respect is non existent. Women love a man who adores women in every way. Not one who sees the female as a come sponge.
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I feel sorry for your “clients”.
get of the pipe lol
Cool story bro but this article is written to avoid dealing with women like yourself. You’d be lucky if I let you rub me down for over $100 so be grateful for the old desperate farts that grovel at your feet in a city full of gorgeous women!
Mmmm…… Okay.
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Well enough said. Hmm….
OK, here’s the deal. If I can remember correctly, I did call “1800-suck-my-dick”, & not “E-Harmony”. So yeah I’m paying you to suck my cock, not to listen to you talk. Now on your knees & start sucking bitch!
You can’t generalize a whole fucking gender.
So sorry…to your ego…but you’re wrong…
I never said he wouldn’t commit either. In fact he did. But he wouldn’t let himself feel anything. And to me that was the level of commitment I needed. Most marriages are a matter of control. One person needing to claim another. Not about real love. Marriage is great if you can find the right person who values a real relationship. And real love. But most can never get over their own egos and let them self be vulnerable with someone. But hey, that’s half of why I got into this business to begin with. It’s easier to be an escort than be in a relationship. Now I don’t have to feel anything either.
So you drove away a guy who would commit, because he didn’t “feel” enough for you?
Committing to you is not enough, he has to “feel” in a way you feel is valid?
As you say
You can’t generalize a whole fucking gender.
So sorry…to your ego…but you’re wrong…
right back ‘atcha…
No. I pushed a guy away because he wanted to control me. He didn’t love me, but still felt entitled to me…And without love/compassion commitment isn’t enough for me, then it’s just a form of manipulation.
If commitment is manipulation …
then you should be glad no other man has made you want to be married to him.
I’m not sure what you mean by compassion in commitment.
Let the person you are married to sleep around, ’cause that’s what people open about their relationships do?
If you want that right … would you grant that to him too?
Seems like men are only walking ATM machines to you. I guess there is an upside to being broke, I won’t be contributing in the transfer of wealth to women at whatever your hourly rate is…
The black american escorts and black american pimps I’ve bumped into are a bit “ghetto” and are more likely to attempt a “cash and dash” (get the money first and slip out the door).
I’ve found that the 18-22 white american escorts are often terrible performers and usually quit the job in 2 years or so. Reviewers tend to go soft on them because of their looks even when their attitude sucks.
Koreans are consummate professionals. Can’t go wrong there.
I find most White American ones to be really unattractive, quirky, zoned out and fucked up. I agree, even they are pedestalized. I have come across some black fems who are ghetto, but ones I have dealt with turn out to be the best I’ve ever had (and yes, I am picky. I have no problem with women, but my standards are extremely high). As far as being ripped off, it happens and I’ve heard many instances of some White American ones who pull the same shit. It’s not a racial issue. Scams are scams. Never had an Asian one yet. Since I’ve been dealing with some of the black ones, I come to terms that most American white girls are overrated!
when did all the 13-year old boys enter the room? Go sign with Roosh V. You all can whip your dicks out in front of the fire and see who shoots first.
I agree with you, there are dangers in paying in advance. On Thursday of last week (26 June 2014) I handed over £250 to a working lady for an out call appointment. She went outside for a cigarette and never came back.
If you have to pay, get her picture and only pay half.
Women have succeeded in creating a perfect gravy train for themselves:
They expertly use social pressure to come off as the victim at all times, while not delivering their end (haha) as the bargain.
They’re “liberated” to work as sex workers, but men are “oppressing” them and are “perverts” if they don’t want to be cheated.
Yes you are correct. When I texted asking for my money back I was called a “filthy man” and accused of having pressured the woman into sex. Firstly no sex took place (she slipped away before it could) and, secondly I have a text from Gemma (the lady in question) in which she explicitly agrees to furnish sex in return for financial recompense. The problem you face as a punter is that unscrupulous girls can make up stories (E.G. he tried to force himself on me”) and you, the innocent client are in potentially very hot water of the legal kind. So, rather than risk a false allegation of assault being made to the police a lot of men will accept the theft because they feel no other option is open to them. Your suggestion of paying only half prior to the service having been provided is a good one as is the idea of taking a picture.
I would never give money to a woman without the services first being rendered, if there is clearly no pimp around or anyone to rob me, and I check to see if she has a gun (and I WILL check everywhere, if she doesn’t like it she can leave) and there is not one, I will SHOW her the money, but never tender it, no way.
If you have her picture, you can circulate it amongst the hobbyist networks or even on tumblr to ensure such frauds (whores who don’t deliver their end fair and square) are given the publicity they deserve to destroy their future business prospects.
Women keep men in line the same way, by threatening men with “creep”, “I’ll tell your boss about this” and “I’ll tell your relatives about this”.
Return their sentiment in kind …
Hahaha. Yep. I had one chick get disrespectful with me and I just simply blocked her number. I’ve had several bad experiences with chicks who either did not meet their end of the deal, including one scam artist, one scatterbrain and another who had more hair on her than any man I’ve ever seen. Told everyone about them on a certain forum/review board.
My line is “This is the money. I’ve been burned once before so It is going into the safe. You will get it at the end of the session. If that’s a problem, here is 20 and you can leave now. I’m a man of my word.”
The honest ones never have a problem with it.
I’ve noticed they start to get disrespectful if you’ve seen them more than a few times.
The white american ones are the worst about this.
Much like Game, you have to make them aware that you have other girls and that they are easily replaced.
Now that this Alix Tichelman has been exposed as a murderer and “sugar baby”, men need to be aware:
Have the girl’s photo somewhere others(fellow mongers or good friends knowing that “women are women everywhere”) can see it, so that if you suddenly go missing, the police know who to “summon for investigations”.
Never assume she likes you for you, and never assume she’ll help you if you’re in trouble.
“Take good care of your body, you need it until the day you die” – affably evil Old Man McCoy
Paraphrased from somewhere else, men need to protect themselves from women who want to kill/roll them.
“Another tip: Since I live alone and don’t want my friends/family to know about my SD (Sugar Daddy) lifestyle, I always leave the girl’s name, number, address, etc. on a post-it note inside my apartment. I also print out the pictures she sent me and leave her profile up on my computer screen. So if anything bad should happen, God forbid, the police will know where to look first!”
Thanks for your post. I really like the information which you have shared in your post.
Hello. I’m interested in becoming a high end escort companion in palm beach Florida and what percentage the agency’s should take out of my pay. Do you know of any safe legitament agencies I can apply to?
Thanks,
Rose
Any chance we will see an update to this series for the post FOSTA/SESTA world? Seeing as how the review sites, backpage, etc all got shut down
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That particular problem affects people in USA, not elsewhere. As I have said many times before, just travel outside USA to.. say Canada, Mexico or anywhere else and have your fill.
FYI- the problem should be taken care of in next few months, once parts of NAFTA are renegotiated.
and if you can’t afford to travel outside the country?
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Ever considered this?
https://dissention.wordpress.com/2010/07/08/pooning-on-a-tight-budget/
Your post does not seem to cover an important point that most wannabe clients are concerned about, i.e remaining anonymous. For example I have considered independent escorts but as a new client, the requirement is screening or a prescreened account. Why would I want to offer my real name and work / business info? I understand the argument ‘ to protect their identity and basic safety’ but hey that works both ways. Seen too many blackmailing and leaked info cases propping up. Thoughts?
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Good point.. see, that is one of the many negatives of living in a quasi third-world country like the USA. In most other developed countries, and many developing ones too, that would be a non-issue.
As far as your situation is concerned, feel free to gather as much info about such escorts as she wants about you.