The Problem with PUA Advice: 1

I have read many PUA blogs since the mid 2000s, and a few from the early 2000s. Here is my criticism..

First the good points:

Many of them do highlight the true nature of women and their real motivations. This is by far their greatest contribution to the public good. Most of mainstream culture tries to cover up, excuse and normalize bad behavior by women. It is only in such blogs, books, newsgroups do we see any significant public discussion of the more unpleasant side of women.

Furthermore they encourage men to not take BS from women. This is their second largest contribution to the public good. By pointing out that every woman is replaceable with another similar, but less bitchy one, they demonstrate the fallacy of ‘oneitis’.

Encouraging men to meet the cunty behavior of women with equally dickish behavior is another valuable contribution. You cannot treat someone better than they treat you, no ifs no buts.

PUA routines are useful, but limited in that you cannot change who you are. You have to adapt the routine outline to your strengths and weaknesses.

Now the bad points:

A lot of the material other than previously discussed is marginally useful at best. Typically it is either conjecture sold as fact, ego trips or worldviews with little connection to reality.

The most important thing that most PUAs never talk about, for obvious reasons, is that picking up women is a numbers game. The whole alpha, beta, omega BS has little connection to reality in humans for reasons I will explain in subsequent parts of this series.

If I have a fun conversation with 20 single or ‘open’ women in my age group, I can get almost certainly get a few phone numbers and at least one woman naked eventually. However the quality is often less than what I can buy (7-8-9s), and the mind games can be tiresome. Hence I prefer escorts.

Women will drop their panties for a guy who is not needy, is confident and flirtatious. A little kinkiness helps a lot.. But you have to approach many and not get burnt out. Now this woman might not be a 9 or 8, but the reality is that a confident guy who is not disfigured or obese can find an average woman who will have sex with him. But you will never get a woman if you do not talk, and flirt with a large number of them.

I think that one of the worst effect of legalized feminism has been stifling male expressions of sexual interest.

Here is the deal, if you are confident in touching a woman after she has been flirting with you- she won’t mind it at all. Indeed no woman, single, attached or married who is flirting back at you will mind you touching her.

It does wonders to her ego!

Don’t start with her boobs, crotch or butt and stay away from coworkers and roomates- it often ends badly. Make sure she understands that you do not have ‘oneitis’ and she will have to ‘work it’. And for the love of god, never ask permission to kiss her. If she is flirting with you, and you kiss her when it feels right- she will reciprocate.

And never make apologies for you desires. One of the three “non-paid” ones I recently did asked me “why are you looking at my butt?” after we were flirting and touching + a little kissing. My answer was delivered in a matter of fact tone with a sly smirk “because I was wondering how you would look during doggystyle sex”. Her initial response was mock shock followed by smack on my arm- “you pervert”. I simply put my hand around her waist, and on her butt and kept it there. She stared at me and after a little more small talk.. she said ” You are such a character, come to my place.. we can drink some more, but I cannot promise you sex”.

We did go to her place to drink some more, and ya.. I did pound her properly a couple of times.

I will write more in another post in this series, on such topics such as

-The stupidity inherent in any ‘alpha, beta, omega’ classification
-Wishful thinking masquerading as evolutionary psychology
-Not giving excessive importance to how women see you

and much more.

The reality is that most women never grow mentally past high school. Imagine a human being who is petty, approval seeking, vain and flaky. Now add the ability to be lead by emotions, and a strong desire to be disciplined and then fucked by a “daddy” like figure.

That is what grown women are really like.

More soon..

  1. Matt
    May 8, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    “but the reality is that a confident guy who is not disfigured or obese can find an average woman who will have sex with him”

    I guess I’m suffering from the fact that I do not want to have sex with the “average” American women. 50 pounds overweight, in terrible shape and they have a bad attitude. Frankly, I deserve someone a whole lot better and I’m not going to settle for some fat, stupid bitch.

    —–
    Well, an average thick woman is easy to get. But if you want quality- escorts are the way to go.

    • Matt
      May 8, 2010 at 4:54 pm

      Even the American whores I’ve seen weren’t worth the money. Even the ones in Australia and New Zealand are far superior. The best I have found so far were Russians in Prague.

      • MyNameisNeo
        May 8, 2010 at 5:10 pm

        My experience with the thicker ones has been pretty good.

        They tend to put in more of a performance, provide enjoyable conversation, and not watch the clock as much since they have an incentive to keep repeat clients since they have to compete with more physically attractive girls.

  2. Niko
    May 8, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    Is it your opinion that escorts are getting more attractive as men are getting less desperate? I mean are higher quality women are entering prostitution?

    Not quite, but being an escort no longer carries the stigma it used to. Plus the money is good.

    • MyNameisNeo
      May 8, 2010 at 5:05 pm

      Very true on the stigma not being what it used to be. You’d be surprised how many college girls work during the summer (almost always away from their hometown and their college town). They then go back to their non-working lives when they get back to school after the summer.

      One thing about the college girls though, is that they tend to coast on their looks and the performance is satisfactory but not incredible.

  3. May 8, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    If you went back four or five years to when I was a shut-in anime-obsessed no-life loser, and told me “it’s a numbers game just flirt with twenty women a week yadda yadda”, I might or might not have believed you but I wouldn’t have acted on it.

    Pure bullshit though it may be, the AD&D-style Mystery Method was exactly the language needed to communicate to my sheltered-ass self. Throw in a little bit of seeing-the-matrix secret-community smugness, and you have the perfect formula for getting shut-ins out the door and into the bar.

    Incidentally, you should write a post with your thoughts on guys giving their virginity to escorts. I’m glad I held out and gave mine to a real girl (from dance game) but I wonder what your thoughts are.
    —–

    Escorts are as good as any to lose your virginity to..

    Me.. I lost it to a distant cousin in my mid teens (grade 10), though I have had some ‘experiences’ before that. 🙂

    • MyNameisNeo
      May 8, 2010 at 9:27 pm

      Lost mine to one and the effects were pretty dramatic after that. Every oneitis and crush I ever had almost instantly vaporized.

      It also a TON of fun to get one who looks just like a crush you once had back in college or high school.

      It was very liberating.


      Same here! I fucked many escorts who looked like gals I fantasized about.

      • Hughman
        May 9, 2010 at 12:23 pm

        MyNameisNo – I have to agree with you.

        Once you learn it’s nothing special, and you know the score with women is now probaby true, it’s suprisingly to take control of your mental state

  4. Y
    May 8, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Wishful thinking masquerading as evolutionary psychology

    Very much looking forward to this one!!! You have great stuff her, but I have to be careful. I cant snoop your page during class…

  5. Hughman
    May 9, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    “The most important thing that most PUAs never talk about, for obvious reasons, is that picking up women is a numbers game. ”

    Any decent free PUA blog or writer will tell you that it’s a numbers game (which initially demoralised me when I found the scene – I wanted that ‘panacea’). Roosh, Virgil Kent, Krauser, De Angelo, Roissy/CR, Rollo Tomassi, Pook, Senor Fingers – they all express the need to remain unattached and to be prepared to run Game at any time. If you mess up, think why it happened, learn from it if you can, move on.

    Sure the witch-oil con merchants trying to make a buck will avoid it, but anyone worth their salt will tell you the truth.

  6. P Ray
    June 23, 2018 at 6:27 am

    The result of “ugly”(compared to the male models that women can never really have committed to them alone, but the girls want those guys) guys having confidence:

    and

  7. P Ray
    April 20, 2019 at 6:30 am

    The final nail in the coffin of PUA advice:
    https://www.rooshv.com/i-will-get-your-girlfriend-banned-from-social-networking
    April 15, 2019Girl BehaviorRoosh
    Do you have a girlfriend who is addicted to displaying her body on Instagram? Are you tired of thirsty men sliding into her DMs? Well I have the perfect service for you: I will get her permanently banned from the most popular social networking platforms, and she will have no idea it was because of you! Your girlfriend will become modest and traditional before you know it.

    So Daryush admits the only way to control female behaviour is to restrict her options … and NOT
    make the guy more attractive to other girls … in other words, he can’t make men better or more attractive to other girls.
    Sounds like a PUA admitting defeat. Or actually, the scam coming to an end, and it (PUA) only really works best for men who are attractive to women to begin with.

    When even the most famous PUA admits that you can only restrict her options, and not make yourself more attractive to other girls, that is already proof that a worldwide culture to empower women and denigrate men has truly triumphed. Right now individual men better learn to ration their resources and never fully commit to any one girl, because she can always do better. Like r/whereareallthegoodmen has said: She’s not yours, it’s just YOUR TURN … so why pay full price for a rental?

    • P Ray
      April 22, 2019 at 1:00 am

      Related:
      [–]Mxx 5 points 12 hours ago
      The worst is when short girls go full master blaster, and the tall guy is a simping beta to his tiny domineering cunt girlfriend. I just want to build them a harness so she can ride on top and give commands.
      permalinksavereportreply
      [–]Mrxx 3 points 12 hours ago
      I’ve seen this too! the tall fag being bossed like a puppet by the midget wife. It’s lifefuel!
      permalinksaveparentreportreply
      [–]Mrxx

      permalinksaveparentreportreply

  8. P Ray
    June 7, 2019 at 1:25 am

    And the other bad point to the idea “PUA means you make lots of approaches”:

    It really starts to look like, ideally you should only practice PUA outside your state or country, as the effort is not worth the possible criminal record AND local women usually know how to abuse local men with impunity

  9. P Ray
    June 23, 2019 at 10:28 pm

    Women will drop their panties for a guy who is not needy, is confident and flirtatious. A little kinkiness helps a lot.. But you have to approach many and not get burnt out. Now this woman might not be a 9 or 8, but the reality is that a confident guy who is not disfigured or obese can find an average woman who will have sex with him. But you will never get a woman if you do not talk, and flirt with a large number of them.

    Only partly true, if you are attractive a lot of signals that she is open to your approach will be sent.
    Parents who don’t want their male children to suffer should tell them that even before speaking, women make it very clear who they want to be in their presence 1.by twirling their hair, 2.adjusting their chest and 3.smiling.

    Check out the video below. Oh yes, women want to be approached … but only by the guys they sent signals to previously. The ugly/regular guy should melt into the background until he is entitled to bail out a woman damaged with the previous self-experience of abuse, disease, financial meltdown, mental issues or miscarriage.

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