Pooning on a Tight Budget

Many people wonder if it is possible to poon (buy pussy) on a tight budget?

The short answer is – Yes, but you have to be careful.

Pooning exclusively with pros requires a ‘real’ income of at least $3000/month ($36k/yr) after taxes- assuming you have no other debts, loans, mortgages etc. Now that sort of income is not too hard to achieve, as pretty much any job that requires a useful undergrad degree pays about 25$/hour- at least where I live. Heck if, you want to work 60 hours/week between two jobs, even 15-20$/hr jobs can give you that income.

But what if you do not have that sort of income? What if your ‘real’ (after tax, after monthly loan repayment, after car payment) income is between 2000-3000$/month?

My experience in the 2000-2002 (my early-to-mid 20′s) timespan might be of some use to you. At that time, I was in the process of switching my area of work, and had a job that paid about $3,000/month after taxes. It was a good stable job and I was expected to work only 5 hours a day and it allowed to me enter a new field. At that time I had NO debt or similar obligations. While I did buy some sex from pros, most of my action in that timespan came from semipros.

My budget was: rent (shared house = $350/month), cell phone ($50/month), cable + internet + utilities (included in rent), and public transit ($60/month). I chose to forego a car because paying for insurance, gas, parking, tickets, repairs and the like was just not worth it at that time and I could always rent a car. The house I lived in was near a number of major bus routes allowing me to take public transit to work and major entertainment districts in that city. Moreover, a cab ride from those areas to my home was less than $20.

My food + booze budget was just under $600, giving me almost $1900 to spend as I pleased. By that time, I had realized that bar pickups were not my strength as it took me about 4-5 nights out to get one mediocre girl (over $300 per mediocre girl). However, my hit rate with the women I had gone drinking out with had been reasonably good. So I started thinking about ways to recruit more women to go out drinking with. It was then that my thoughts turned to a path which I had previously considered but not yet implemented:

Getting poor, but good-looking, young girls (18-23) to have sex with me in return for some timely financial help.

I should be upfront that getting amateur women to have sex for money can be tricky as most of them believe that they are not whores. Moreover, poor young women often have “boyfriends” and white knight orbiters. So I created a set of filters and rules to screen out the most problematic types.

Filter 1: Avoid all girls who have obvious and serious drug and mental health issues or have lived on the street for over 6 weeks at a stretch.

The following categories of girls are acceptable, however.

1. Freshly homeless young girls, especially those who hangout in mixed groups.

The safest ones are those who are into pot, drumming, dreadlocks et cetera. You can find them in many larger cities in the spring and summer. While I would never trust them with any significant amount of money, many are reasonably decent human beings.

Strike up a conversation with them, engage them and see where it leads. But you must make it plainly obvious that you are interested in them sexually, but that all favors require reciprocation. Once you get to know them, a decent round of drinks, snacks, money for pot, a small necessary item of clothing, decent dinner with booze will almost guarantee you a good lay (or at least a couple of BJs).

Your initial financial hit for hanging out with them is very small, and once they are sleeping with you.. it will often work to about $30-60 (cash equivalent or cash) per session. You may also get freebies..

2. Girls who are not homeless, but are just hanging on.

Once again, a group who could use some help. Typically found in smaller retail stores or businesses that pay minimum wage with no tips. Build a rapport and be fairly upfront about your interest, but do not come across as desperate. Go to her workplace and talk to her when you are in that area, but do not stalk her.

Such women often have “boyfriends,” however, they are often just as poor or poorer than her. You can get pussy as long as you are firm about the need for reciprocation. This category of girls might be more willing to give BJs than having ‘real sex.’ But do you really care?

Restrict your help to less than $200 at any one time AND only after she has put out a couple of times.

3. Girls who are poor, but not homeless and have no “boyfriends” + have moved to the city within the last eight weeks.

You have hit the jackpot! A girl who I have previously mentioned as ‘M1′ (on my blog) gave me many amazing memories over a 8-9 month period, as did a couple more.

Remember these girls can become de facto GFs, but do not restrict yourself to one. While you do not have to rub it in their faces, they should know that you are always looking around for a better deal. But treat them a bit better than type 1 and 2, they do give more per dollar spent on them.

Whether you are with a girl from any, or all, of the three types, there are a few rules:

Never think with your dick.
No oneitis.
You control the relationship, not them.
Never let them get away with more than one freebie, ever!

They will play by your rules as long as they are not too dehumanizing, and they are often cheaper than professional whores.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. Mike
    July 8, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    This is brilliant.

    Yes, more details. Please. What is your specific approach to retail chicks?
    —-

    Talk to them. Start with some random stuff related to her job, or some observation about her clothes/hair/looks.. Then visit them a couple more times, and then ask them out, accidentally bump into them at their lunchtime or find where they hang out after work. As long as you do not appear too eager, it is easy.

    If you target the right age/profile, sooner or later one of your acquaintances will be short of money.

    However converting a retail chick to a lay takes time, and is a numbers game.. even more so than normal ‘daygame’.

  2. Gorbachev
    July 8, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    My problem:

    How good can paid-for sex be?

    Very good.. 😀

    • Nestorius
      July 9, 2010 at 3:00 am

      It is sex after all!!

    • Weevie
      April 17, 2011 at 11:42 pm

      What other kind is there?

  3. Lomaxio
    July 9, 2010 at 7:02 am

    Thanks again sir!
    This is illuminating!!

    How do broach the subject regarding the reciprocity??

    and… you mentioned – no drug user chicks- why would a coke user be a bad/dangerous option?

    • Joe
      July 9, 2010 at 8:28 am

      Their dealers may show up at your place and demand you pay for the girl’s fix. A druggie gf may also have low rent friends that may beg for “loans” or even rob you. You’re exposed to these types when you date addicts. Stay away.

      Yes.. that is correct.

  4. Black Rebel
    July 9, 2010 at 8:57 am

    The word ‘Pooning’ has just entered the lexicography 😀

    I’d like a bit more information regarding semi-pros. The best places to find them,
    —-

    Ever walked in the artsier parts of downtown TO?

    the best way to breach the possibility of a cash for ass exchange,
    —-
    As long as you make it obvious that your are interested in them, but are not desperate- the rest will follow. Trust me, women have an inbuilt sense of how to get cash for ass. But if an ‘assistance’ of about 100$ is not reciprocated with a nice multi-act session… drop her for good.

    the best way to keep them from sticking their hand out without reciprocating etc etc etc.
    —-

    Be upfront- something along the lines of “hey babe, yes.. I can help you with that but what is in it for me?”, “Don’t mind helping you as long as you want to hang out” etc

    Or after a meal/dinner “you are such a cutie, come back to my place and hang out”, if she says “no, thanks” then say “find a newer guy who will want to put it up your asshole before feeding you next time”.

  5. Nestorius
    July 9, 2010 at 10:04 am

    With semi-pros, do you pay before or after getting the ass?
    —-

    If you are spending less than 40-50$, it is more like a date or little shopping. But cash above 60$ requires her to perform stuff first.

    By the way, you should write posts about luck, i.e. how luck is crucial to whether you will get laid or not with unpaid girls, and whether bad luck can be transformed into good luck if this is possible.
    —–

    Yes, luck is important and so is trying.

  6. Nestorius
    July 9, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    Out of topic, but as a corollary to what has been said over here many times, imagine sex was just a reproductive act without orgasm on both sides, wouldn’t the value of women decrease enormously. Assuming the absence of orgasm, what function would a woman have aside carrying the child in her womb and breastfeeding him? In other terms, why do you need a woman if not to give birth and breastfeed? What difference they make in humans other than that? In fact, they have no other function in life, they are parasites. You don’t need them to cook, one man can cook for 20 men as in the army. We give them the easy things in life to do, for us men to be fully busy with the hard things in life.

    However, since orgasm exists and since in female-run coutries (USA et alii) childbirth is not required from women anymore, women have become true parasites. You don’t need them for anything other than sex. Surely, this means that the people of these countries will soon become extinct if they continue like that, but as you say, who cares.
    —-

    They do not see understand that they are parasites.

    • The Plague Doctor
      July 9, 2010 at 4:18 pm

      “Surely, this means that the people of these countries will soon become extinct if they continue like that, but as you say, who cares.”

      Check out http://www.antinatalism.net

    • shreya
      November 2, 2011 at 10:53 am

      You don’t need a woman to have an orgasm. Go your own way.
      —-

      That is your opinion. I have mine.

      • P Ray
        April 17, 2017 at 8:26 am

        Women encourage men to “go their own way” so that nobody will oppose them when they try to rip off those men that “go their own way”.

        It’s usually those same women that prefer men blow away and disappear, leaving his earned wealth and assets to be scooped up by those women.

        A lot of MGTOW is actually a race experiment, where White guys plunder Asian women, then tell Asian men to go to hell.

  7. Nestorius
    July 9, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    Or they just know it, hence they use the only think usefull in them to make it look like they are valuable. But then imagine having cheap prostitutes (20$ per hour) everywhere, that would be final blow to them. Maybe, that’s what MRA should do: fight to make prostitution legal everywhere.
    —-

    I agree.. legal and inexpensive prostitution will destroy female power.

    • Nestorius
      July 9, 2010 at 2:29 pm

      Didn’t we just found the solution to the problem right now by going to the root?

      • Nestorius
        July 9, 2010 at 2:31 pm

        I think you or Ferdinand should write something stating explicitly that this is the solution.

    • fu
      November 4, 2011 at 10:37 am

      Why do you hate women so much? What’s wrong with women having power?

      • P Ray
        April 17, 2017 at 8:18 am

        It seems that regular men wanting the power to get sex without being willing to hand over half his worldly assets,

        is a crime according to women who didn’t previously do anything to help him get those assets.

        It’s always interesting to hear a criminal justify their rights to other peoples’ belongings.

  8. July 10, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    Fascinating, I think this is harder or more expensive to pull off in small college towns in the Southeast where women are supported by well to do parents. How large (population) is the city you operate in? I’m guessing that this makes a big difference as well as your state’s average obesity index which reduces supply.

    At least 300k, with a number of ‘districts’ (artsy, trendy, preppy, neo-hippy, new ager etc).

    Ideally, you should be in a 1 million+ metropolitan area

  9. Doug1
    April 12, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Nestorius :
    Or they just know it, hence they use the only think usefull in them to make it look like they are valuable. But then imagine having cheap prostitutes (20$ per hour) everywhere, that would be final blow to them. Maybe, that’s what MRA should do: fight to make prostitution legal everywhere.
    —-
    I agree.. legal and inexpensive prostitution will destroy female power.

    Germany has legal and fairly cheap prostitution. (Eastern European girls.) It hasn’t destroyed feminism there. Not as bad as here but I doubt mostly for that reason.

    • shreya
      November 2, 2011 at 10:56 am

      Germany also has public nudity and in some areas public sex is allowed. None of this has destroyed the power of German women. Face it, you guys will never win. Never.

      Really? Are there fewer very miserable men in Germany (as a %) than the USA? If there are- then you are wrong.

      • Julia
        November 11, 2011 at 11:16 am

        Actually, there are fewer very miserable men in Germany than in the US, and it doesn’t make her her wrong.
        Only people who see feminism as inhertly anti-male can come to this conclusion.
        Germany and other European countries just see equality more as a common goal, not something that only one gender can be awarded with.
        Plus Anglosaxon feminism and French derived (read continental Europe) feminism are very different, look at it in a freidan vs debouvoir dicotomy.


        I gave them a much better deal than they were getting. What is wrong with that?

        Congrats on the sociopathic explotation, anyways.
        Really.sad.


        Why should I care about others if they don’t care about me?

      • P Ray
        April 15, 2016 at 11:09 pm

        Congrats on the sociopathic explotation, anyways.
        Really.sad.

        Women have a problem being grateful towards men, unless the men are the kind of men other women are attracted to.

        In short, it is your duty as an ugly guy to save all women.

        The majority of women can “go and die” if that’s their mentality – and it is easy to pick up on that, f.ex:
        You are expected to listen to her complaints – she has no time for yours.
        You are expected to keep your eyes to yourself – she can ogle the handsome models and it is “playful”
        so many other examples.

  10. November 2, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    dirty diablo–this is what you and the mra dickheads don’t get…..

    you are basically saying your only value as a human being is as a wallet…..

    hahahahaha, that’s far more objectified than the made up stuff feminists whine and cry about to make you feel sorry for them and think they are the victim…..

  11. December 7, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    Awesome straight forward goodness. Pure awesomeness, good Ideas and thoughts. Very creative.

    Leveraging desperation of one utility into another.

  12. Ash
    December 27, 2011 at 7:58 am

    Is this you?

  13. Ash
    January 18, 2012 at 6:37 am
  14. P Ray
    May 25, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    Getting angry about men paying for sex ignores that all sex is paid sex.
    Just that the payment may not always be money.
    http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/prostitution/feminist-arguments-against-prostitution-dismantled

    • Jo
      March 24, 2013 at 3:02 pm

      no it isnt. A decent woman might go dutch for a couple of reasons…
      1. to avoid assholes thinking they might be owed something,
      2. because it is the right thing to do.

      If you ‘deal’ with people (any people) in desperate conditions then you will see the worst side of humanity.

      • P Ray
        March 25, 2013 at 8:34 am

        Every interaction is a transaction.
        There is a price for every decision. Always is, always was, always will be.
        Don’t doctors play God by deciding who gets treated according to triage?
        So why not accuse them of negligence, when they should “first do no harm”?

      • P Ray
        March 29, 2013 at 5:24 pm

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2297928/Dating-games-Men-think-time-lucky–women-wont-consider-sleeping-fifth.html
        The counterpoint to this is that women offer sex to men who already have plenty of offers from other women.
        Do you think Ryan Lochte has to “take women for dates”?

  15. Jo
    March 24, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    hmmm. “many are reasonably decent human beings.”….. referring to a ‘category’ of women. Decent human beings- unlike you sociopaths.

    The only way that women would be parasites would be where males had control over them; and stopped them from earning their own keep, forced them to rely on husbands and fathers. Women are actually less parasitic that any male who prays on weaker and more helpless members of their species.

    this is totally warped and clearly demonstrates you to be a fucktards.

    • P Ray
      March 25, 2013 at 8:33 am

      We punish male transgression, but are socialised to “understand” female crime.
      Seems a bit of a double standard … yet women say they want to be “equal”.
      I look forward to the day 50% of frontline deaths are women.
      That demonstrates they will put their lives on the line to defend a nation.

    • P Ray
      April 15, 2016 at 11:28 pm

      Women are actually less parasitic that any male who prays on weaker and more helpless members of their species.
      Drug dealers, murderers and child abusers/killers (like Marc Dutroux) regularly receive lots of love letters and marriage proposals.

      Women love those guys, and … since men do what women incentivise or try to become the guy women will choose to breed with,

      it is not a stretch to say women propagate evil. They are the ones making kids with psychopaths after all.

  16. P Ray
    September 23, 2015 at 11:36 am

    Don’t know if this counts, but working retail as a manager can also land you mad poon from young girls wanting to keep their jobs or get better hours.
    “She’ll get in on time, if she lets me get it in sometime” 🙂

  17. Anonymous
    December 19, 2015 at 2:18 pm

    To have such a calculating mentality towards a woman in difficulty while knowing her over a period of time and sleeping with her regularly requires an unfeeling temperament. I am relieved that I could never become this cold. I would rather go without sex than resort to this.

    But why should I care about the conventions of a society that did not care about me?

    • P Ray
      April 15, 2016 at 11:11 pm

      If you can “go without sex than resort to this”, you probably can get sex when you want it.
      Try to “understand” male behaviour, the way you “understand” female behaviour (and let them get away with it).

      Otherwise, you are simply allowing yourself to be exploited without payment by females.
      Making you their slave.

  18. P Ray
    December 14, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/nearly-5-million-americans-in-default-on-student-loans-1513192375

    Going by a 1:1 ratio of females to males,
    that means
    2.5 million females on the hook for student loans.

    New pooning opportunities for men on a budget!
    “Selling is legal. Sex is legal. So why isn’t selling sex legal?”

  19. P Ray
    December 15, 2017 at 5:00 am

    Another wondrous pooning data point:
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/dec/15/homelessness-report-working-families-stable-jobs-local-government-ombudsman
    Families with stable jobs at risk of homelessness in Britain, report finds
    Nurses are among those ending up with nowhere to live after being evicted by private-sector landlords, says watchdog

    Superb, can get your “naughty nurse” fantasies satisfied for real in the UK!

  20. P Ray
    December 15, 2017 at 5:46 am

    And the final one for those left out of relationships in their teens, good news:
    https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/oct/09/one-false-move-and-youre-done-how-us-cities-are-changing-for-runaway-kids
    ‘One false move and you’re done’: how US cities are changing for runaway kids
    Runaway youth have always fled to cities – but they now find themselves adrift in much costlier cities, where even the fully employed are barely scraping by
    Homeless man begs along a sidewalk in downtown San Francisco
    A Department of Justice survey estimated in 1999 that 1.68 million young Americans had experienced a ‘runaway/throwaway episode’. Photograph: Josh Edelson/AFP/Getty
    Cities is supported by
    Rockefeller FoundationAbout this content
    Joe Eskenazi in San Francisco
    Monday 9 October 2017 11.59 BST

    Dale Thomas, Qualified Counsellor
    Written 18 Nov 2016
    All relationships are transactions. ALL relationship. Business relationships, family relationships, romantic relationship, friendships. They are all examples of giving and receiving. The things being traded are things like money, affection, attention, exclusivity, etc.

  21. P Ray
    January 17, 2018 at 2:46 am

    https://thinkprogress.org/women-in-baltimore-public-housing-were-forced-to-trade-sex-for-basic-repairs-b649b58c9a05/

    Hee hee hee … when there are so few men in the trades that they can’t afford to fire them, seems the men can get sex to expedite repairs.

    If women don’t appreciate an educated man, they can appreciate an UNeducated one 🙂

    • P Ray
      January 17, 2018 at 2:57 am

      First they say “traded sex”
      then it’s filed under “sexual assault”?

      Interesting how a trade becomes an assault.

      • January 17, 2018 at 9:03 am

        Women trade sex for maintenance work all the time. Especially if she’s broke or if she’s really liking them. But some have this PTSD “regret sex” syndrome that causes a domino effect. Like during slavery, many black men were killed because of a white woman’s “regret sex”, which can be caused by shaming language, or “slut shaming”. You have to wonder about some of this shit.

      • P Ray
        January 17, 2018 at 9:23 am

        And sometimes the “regret sex” that the black men were killed for … NEVER EVEN HAPPENED.
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4165404/Woman-accused-Emmett-Till-admits-lied.html
        White housewife who claimed Emmett Till, 14, ‘sexually threatened her’ so her guilty husband would be acquitted of lynching and killing him admits she lied and now feels ‘tender sorrow’
        WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT
        Emmett Till, 14, was brutally murdered in 1955 for ‘whistling at a white woman’
        Carolyn Bryant, the woman who accused him, now admits she lied
        Aged 83, she spoke to author Timothy Tyson for his new book about the lynching
        She stated that he grabbed her and sexually threatened her
        Bryant’s husband was one of the two men who killed Till, and walked free
        The two men admitted just months after their trial they killed him
        Till’s death shocked the nation and helped to mobilize the civil rights movement
        By Anna Hopkins For Dailymail.com
        PUBLISHED: 20:58 GMT, 27 January 2017 | UPDATED: 14:56 GMT, 28 January 2017

  22. P Ray
    April 11, 2018 at 9:17 am

    Congratulations to Donald Trump for passing FOSTA and SESTA.
    Thanks for making pooning on a budget possible in the US!

    Now women have an even more stark choice:
    Get “protected” by a pimp, or deliver what’s due to the nice guy.

  23. P Ray
    July 10, 2019 at 6:46 pm

    Looks like Vancouver (and soon NZ) is a good place for pooning on a budget!
    From https://old.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/cb6034/kiwis_not_earning_enough_to_keep_up_with_rising/?limit=500

    [–]H_G_Bells 19 points 1 day ago
    Vancouver (Canada) is having the same issues you are, but we’re a few years ahead of you (as far as the problems progressing, unfortunately not ahead of you on a solution).
    At least millennials have realized we can turn to selling our bodies to the rich to make a living wage. AT least 60% of one of the most upscale neighbourhoods downtown are callgirls working from home. Careful NZ, don’t let it get this bad. All my friends are leaving :<
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    [–]Toadterror 2 points 1 day ago
    Lol what neighbourhood is that?
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    [–]H_G_Bells 5 points 1 day ago
    I mean there are so many neighbourhoods, which one, specifically?
    Yaletown.
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    [–]acid-nz -7 points 1 day ago
    I'm sorry but what's wrong with prostitution?
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    [–]H_G_Bells 9 points 1 day ago
    Did I say there was anything wrong with it? It's fine if it's a choice but more often than not it's a means of last resort; that's not a choice, that's selling yourself for survival.
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    Please note that as an Asian guy in NZ you need to be very careful of the Maori and White women, they can kill you then get a short jail sentence.

    Read up about:
    1. Franchesca Kororia Borell
    2. Crystal Black, 26, and her partner Krystel Pokai, 25
    3. Virginia Maria Beerens

    • P Ray
      July 11, 2019 at 1:51 am

      Update on one of the dynamic duo of:
      Crystal Louise Black, (now) 31 and Krystel Therese Pokai, (now) 30 …
      http://gisborneherald.co.nz/localnews/4025980-135/convicted-killer-back-in-prison
      Convicted killer back in prison
      Published: April 1, 2019 2:18PM

      One month for assaulting partner.
      Some things:
      1. 1 month for assaulting partner. Quite a funny April Fool’s sentence.
      2. What a good personality she has to get close enough to assault a woman, since women are never violent.
      3. Someone who has killed someone else can be violent? How is such a thing possible?
      4. Remember in New Zealand, the law is set up that only men can be seen as rapists and pedophiles. Gonna wait until somebody famous gets killed by their feral females to see this attitude change.

      One of two women who killed Amandeep Singh at Kaiti Beach in December 2012, and who was released on parole last year, has been recalled to custody after a domestic incident.

      Krystel Therese Pokai, 30, pleaded guilty to assaulting a person in a family relationship — her current partner.

      The offence, on January 3 this year, arose out of an argument that escalated to Pokai pulling the woman’s hair and punching her with a closed fist in the face.

    • P Ray
      July 11, 2019 at 1:52 am

      Update on one of the dynamic duo of:
      Crystal Louise Black, (now) 31 and Krystel Therese Pokai, (now) 30 …
      gisborneherald.co.nz/localnews/4025980-135/convicted-killer-back-in-prison
      Convicted killer back in prison
      Published: April 1, 2019 2:18PM

      One month for assaulting partner.
      Some things:
      1. 1 month for assaulting partner. Quite a funny April Fool’s sentence.
      2. What a good personality she has to get close enough to assault a woman, since women are never violent.
      3. Someone who has killed someone else can be violent? How is such a thing possible?
      4. Remember in New Zealand, the law is set up that only men can be seen as rapists and pedophiles. Gonna wait until somebody famous gets killed by their feral females to see this attitude change.

      One of two women who killed Amandeep Singh at Kaiti Beach in December 2012, and who was released on parole last year, has been recalled to custody after a domestic incident.

      Krystel Therese Pokai, 30, pleaded guilty to assaulting a person in a family relationship — her current partner.

      The offence, on January 3 this year, arose out of an argument that escalated to Pokai pulling the woman’s hair and punching her with a closed fist in the face.

  24. P Ray
    November 7, 2019 at 9:50 pm

    Killed by 17 year old Rose Lewis:
    The mindless and brutal murder of Sandeep Dhiman (stuff nz) MARTY SHARPE
    16:42, Jul 27 2018

    Sandeep Dhiman was stabbed and stomped to death on the side of a Hawke’s Bay road. Marty Sharpe looks at how that came to happen.

    Few murders are as mindless and brutal as that of Sandeep Dhiman.

    The IT worker came to New Zealand in 2015 with a life of hope and promise ahead of him.

    He was found dead in a roadside ditch near Napier on December 18, 2017 – which would have been his 31st birthday.

    Why did he die? Because 17-year-old Rosie Lewis wanted a car, any car – even Dhiman’s 2006 Toyota Passo, and she thought nothing of having someone killed to get it.


    Her means of achieving this goal was as simple as it was stupid. She would befriend men on the dating app Tinder, arrange to meet them, then tell her friend Shaun Karauria that the man had molested her and then she would ask Karauria, 17, to “smash” him, stab him, and leave him somewhere remote.

    Rule that was broken: This is why you don’t continue a date with a woman who brings a friend along


    On the afternoon of December 16 Dhiman purchased a new Samsung cellphone for Lewis. They took selfies together, her making signs with her fingers and poking out her tongue.

    Notice she didn’t actually hold hands with him, or take a photo with him touching her. Rule broken: Buying her things that she can resell. Only give her experiences, and a time- and money-limit before she hands over the sex. Everything is transactional.


    But it had dawned on the man that she was only interested in his car and he declined to pick her up. So an hour later she got back on to Dhiman, who agreed to pick her and a friend up for a drive that afternoon.

    Rule broken: Taking her for a drive with a friend, without talking about a threesome.


    After dropping the group off Dhiman returned home. At 7.24pm he received a text message from Lewis asking him to give her ‘nephew’ a lift home.

    Rule broken: The lengths people will go without getting a stab at that poon. This is why you don’t do favours for the relatives of girls you haven’t fucked.


    Sometime after 9pm the group arrived at a secluded location on Matahorua Rd. Karauria got out of the car and walked up a nearby driveway. Lewis told Dhiman he should go and talk with Karauria.

    Rule broken: Don’t go alone at night with a strange man in a lonely place.


    The badly-injured Dhiman managed to climb back over the gate and stagger back to the road. He cried out for help before collapsing on the grass verge.

    Rule broken: Crying out for help in a lonely place immediately after being attacked, only lets the people who hurt you know you are still alive – and they will finish the job.


    Meanwhile, Dhiman’s body had been found on the roadside. That evening the other male went to the Napier police station and told police what had occurred.

    Rule FOLLOWED: the first person to rat out a bunch of criminals, gets no jail time at all.

    • P Ray
      November 9, 2019 at 10:41 pm

      A related story:
      Young men treated woman as ‘less than human’ during gang rape
      Jono Galuszka
      18:52, Nov 03 2017


      The judge said their support would be the difference between the rapists leading offence-free lives or not.

      Taylor-Haeata was given 11 years’ jail, as he was also being sentenced for burglary, breach of sentences and the May 2017 aggravated robbery of Liquorland College St in Palmerston North.

      He committed both those dishonesty offences while on bail for the rapes.

      Haeata and Harrison were both given seven years’ jail, while Hirawani was sentenced to seven years and two months’ prison.

      The girl Rosie Lewis who planned (and was also involved in the circumstances leading up to) Sandeep Dhiman’s death was given 11 years in jail.

      So we can come up the mathematical equation,

      In NZ 1 White woman being raped = 1 Asian getting murdered (since both those offences earned an 11 year jail sentence).

      So it is objectively proven that one White person is worth more than an Asian.

      Proving racism is usually much harder.

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