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Most Guys Still Don’t Understand Escort Use: 1

I cannot help but notice that many ‘game’ blogs from the commercial ones, non-commercial ones like Roissy (now ‘Citizen Renegade’), fellow bloggers like Vincent Ignatius to commentators like ‘Gorbachev’ do not understand, or want to understand, the single biggest reason behind habitual escort use.

The reason is- YOU have the power, not her.

It does not matter if you are the guy who wrote a best-selling book on game, the one who has banged scores of DC chicks or have casual flings..

They are all dependent on one basic, and often overlooked, factor.

Her willingness to have ‘unpaid’ sex with you is dependent on her state of mind.

Let me explain that concept in some detail. Regardless of ‘game’ – she has to be willing to have sex with you, and therefore your choice of women, acts and experience is fundamentally constrained by what a woman who wants to have sex, lets you get away with, at that time.

These constraints no longer apply if you live in a city, or frequently travel to, with a good size escort population. You can enjoy the lips of a younger Brittany Spears-lookalike on your cock and balls, facefuck a doppelgänger for your second favorite ‘victoria Secrets’ Model, have a doppelgänger for a men’s magazine hottie ride you reverse cowgirl (and sometimes you will see them in magazines or on websites later).

You can buttfuck a younger portia rossi-lookalike. Maybe you want to doggstyle any hot multiracial girls (with the mix of features that you want). Maybe you want to make to make sweet-sweet love to a Adrianna Lima lookalike?

You can do all of that and more, as long as you can get (and keep) it up + have the money.

Maybe you want to give a girl with a promising modern dance/ ballet career a solid fucking and then go to watch her stage performance. Who knows, a woman who you fucked might end with a career based on her looks (and men drooling over her).

Is any of this reliably possible through routes other than paying them?

Can you really tell, without consequence, the girl you will have sex with tomorrow that you are getting blown by another hottie when she calls to confirm the appointment? Can you really get with telling a girl that you are doggystyling that she has a much firmer and rounder butt than another girl at the same agency, but her tits could use some work? Which bootycall is ever going to greet you at the door in lingerie of your choice, as opposed to the few pieces she has? Can you really schedule a 11 am sunday appointment from a roster of BJ queens?

Can you?

This is not to say that an attitude based in ‘game’ cannot help increase your mileage with escorts. Most escort patrons are pathetic, insecure pedestalizers who cannot get over how lucky they are have a hottie suck their cock with such passion.

I remember recently spanking a girl who had a somewhat tender butt from excess tanning. She was squirming like crazy and protesting, but never resisting because she knew the drill and apparently enjoyed it- “I am going to remember this spanking every time I sit on a hard chair tomorrow”. You could always get her to stand naked after you session, hands on head, and feed her a little ice-cream from her fridge (if you sorta know her). Or get her to give you a nice unhurried bath after your 2-3 cums inside her (they will- if they dig you).

Who knows, a few may hang out with you later. Sometimes you pay them, sometimes they refuse to take money (only happens with a small percentage of escorts for any given guy). If she does, make sure she shops without underwear, as it is fun to keep her on the edge about when and how you will expose her. I have memories of a dress designer, who moonlighted as an escort, who always protested the indignity of having her dress pulled up when I hugged her in public places (malls). We must have scarred more than a few kids, and scandalized their parents- “mommy, why is that lady not wearing any panties?”

I have more fun stories, if you are interested.


  1. RedPill
    July 15, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    Commercial game blogs bag on escort use because it cuts into their targeted demographic group. Single males with money.

    Ironically, using ‘game’ with escorts gets you an amazing experience- as long as you know she will never be anything more than an escort.

  2. Nestorius
    July 15, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    Game is a powerfull tool for the destruction of female power, but prostitution is the ultimate tool. This is what other bloggers are not yet getting.

    Escorts in the last 15 years (antibiotics + anti-virals+ public health measures +internet + being open about sex and money) have made it into a potential H-Bomb as far as destroying female power is concerned.

  3. RedPill
    July 15, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    The funny thing about escort use is that once you do it you are likely to never look back at “game”.

    Yes, but as I mentioned before.. ‘gaming’ escorts is the bomb.

    “Love” is just an ephemeral mixture of
    Chemicals in the brain that can be easily simulated. Imagine sexbots and fully immersive
    Vr….It is taking prostitution to the next level and eroding any vestige of female power.

  4. the dude
    July 15, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Disagree. Using prostitutes cuts out the fun part, which is the flirt, the unknown ending of the story.

    You are a masochist, aren’t you?

    Besides, spending a house worth on pussy is just non-sensical, if you can get similar for free, or say almost free.

    300k buys you over 1,000 different woman (all HB7 or above).

    300k is the minimum amount spent on dating, marrying, raising kids + divorcing one aging woman (middle class or above).

    Your choice!

    Though nothing to say against the casual Lolita, goes down like crème brûlée on à Sunday afternoon.

    Have you ever used escorts not born in N.America or W. Europe?

    • RedPill
      July 15, 2010 at 1:52 pm

      Not to mention the sheer amount of time
      You spend practicing game on unpaid
      Women when you could be learning skills to makemmoney.

    • rsnlvr
      July 15, 2010 at 3:42 pm

      I never regarded what he regards as the “fun part” to be especially enjoyable.

      • rsnlvr
        July 15, 2010 at 3:45 pm

        Well, flirting is fun, but I always hated that gap of time between where you have your foot in the door (she’s expressed interest, is up for a second date, etc), and closing the deal. I often fuck things up at that stage because I get too anxious/excited.

        I’m thinking that if I occasionally banged an escort who rated an 8 or a 9 and if I still DID decide to date, my attitude regarding whether I succeed in banging my date might be one of relative indifference, which is exactly what “game” encourages.

  5. the dude
    July 15, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    flirting is like a fun habit you can do without much effort, like farting!

  6. the dude
    July 15, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    yes I have

  7. Vincent Ignatius
    July 15, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    I’m all about maximizing my pleasure. I can do that with game better than American escorts…for now.

    If the need to feel power over her were a bigger factor in my pleasure, maybe the cost-benefit analysis would lead to a different result.

  8. Herbal Essence
    July 15, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    As someone who is at this moment visiting a country with legal prostitution, and having sampled a high-end brothel, I can totally see where you’re coming from.

    Also – Even though this is a somewhat matriarchal country, the women have a much different energy about them. The giant female entitlement stick up the butt does not seem to grow in them since they know men have unlimited safe, legal, and fun ways to get female attention.

    Yep, even that country.

    Nestorius- “Game is a powerfull tool for the destruction of female power, but prostitution is the ultimate tool. This is what other bloggers are not yet getting.”

    Agreed. I think there are millions of white knights and manginas who would lose the female pedestalizing really fast were they to stick their condom-equipped member into a few hot ladies of the evening. I have always thought prostitution is illegal in the u.s. due to 1. Anti-sex and male-enslaving Social Conservatism


    and 2. Male-enslaving women who don’t want their pussy power over American men challenged by safe and legal alternatives.

    • Herbal Essence
      July 16, 2010 at 1:19 pm

      Should also add- I had sex yesterday with five great looking girls (all 7+) from all over the world for less than $500.
      FKK or Eros center?

      Granted I had to fly to another continent to get that. But still – great sex five times for less than $100 a throw.

      Men in the anglosphere have trouble believing that the cost of sex in most developed countries is about 100-150$ equivalent per hour.

      Your nonpaid alternatives better be giving you something you want. Otherwise, dump them. Seriously. And it wouldn’t hurt to tell them so, as directly or politely as you feel like.

      • Nestorius
        July 16, 2010 at 1:36 pm

        Russian, Ukrainian and Roumanian prostitutes in Lebanon charge usually 100-150 $ per hour. Moreover, many look 8, 9 and 10.

        E. European women are the best, as far as whites go.

      • Nestorius
        July 16, 2010 at 1:39 pm

        They look much much hotter and prettier than all the American phony attention whores I see these days in Beirut.

      • Herbal Essence
        July 18, 2010 at 7:27 am

        ‘FKK or Eros center?’

        BTW I am not vacationing solely for women, most of my trip has been cultural and outdoor activities.

  9. the dude
    July 15, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    prostitution is nothing new, always has been am option. Or is it very different in the US?

    The quality of escorts in the US can be very variable.

    In any case, knowing you have that option might make your pick-up skills stronger, since you have less needeness written all over your faces. Still, you’ll feel worthless if having to turn to escorts for action, as our narrator seems to feel.

    Who cares about what others think about me?

    You really don’t need much skill to game girls, its natural conversation with girls, adding a bit of spice to it. You can still spend a house worth (by the narrators calculation) on labia later, but you give away a free option. And the unpaid service is good too, you can teach them all skills needed.

    I like to bang hot chicks on my schedule and demand, not accept obese crap with attitude.

  10. the dude
    July 16, 2010 at 3:44 am

    seems the dating landscape is very different over in the US.
    I definitely like to keep the gaming option open, no problem with refining the skill set either. giving up directly is weak.
    Disagree with your calculation, as I did not intend to marry + kids + house with garden for the wifey’s status. Just picking up whenever it’s possible, keep that option open.
    thrill of picking up is what makes it fun, depends on how you go about it. girls are easy, not sure why you want to give up on a free option.

  11. Numm
    July 16, 2010 at 4:32 pm


    Escorts are great, but I’m in the situation you were in a while back, where I simply don’t have enough money. So, gaming drunk college chicks for now. When I get a job, I’ll probably keep it up, cause sex with an 18 year old hotty is great, and gaming them is easy in a college town, but I’ll probably start using escorts a whole lot more.

  12. d
    July 17, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    The woman in the escort situation still has the power, and you are still giving in to her demands.

    Typical white putrid CUNT.. aren’t you?

    It is just that her demands (ie I will perform X service, if you give me Y amounts of money) are more explicit than other non-prostitute’s demands.

    I call that- honesty.

    But if she doesn’t like your look, smell, or feel safe with you, you will get turned down, even by an escort.

    What percentage of customers does an escort turn down? If she turns more than a few percent, the review boards will run her out of business, or decimate her client list at the very least.

    True, their thresholds tend to be more flexible than the average woman’s, but it is there all the same.

    Eat shit.

    Much like the PUA, you feel smug about your illusion of control, but in the end, you are still dancing to her tune.

    Escorts who cannot play their role have to leave that profession, and there is no shortage of replacements.

    • WhySoSerious?
      July 17, 2010 at 3:47 pm

      That’s very true about there being no shortage of supply and demand.

      I’d say the customer guy makes off far better than the PUA or the ordinary guy ever would.

      There are HUGE savings in emotional stress (having an argument), mental stress (remembering what to say and how to act), the financial costs (from dating to divorce), and opportunity cost (time spent on this one woman or on getting really good at PUA material, which takes nearly 6 months to 1 year of nonstop practice) that could have been used on developing new marketable skills or simply billable hours).

      Pussy is fungible, but many men do not see it that way.

      Needless to say I prefer escorts simply because I just don’t have the time, inclination, or downright stupidity to chase after something in which I will spend more on it than I would ever get out of it.

    • Herbal Essence
      July 18, 2010 at 7:39 am

      Every woman expects to get paid for her company, whether with money, time, security, social status, gifts, etc. And generally, I don’t blame them. I expect reciprocity from others in my life, too. What fucks everything up is the Western woman’s sense of entitlement and low overall value in fulfilling my needs. Western women are SOOOO fucked in the head, it is a really bad investment for me to spend any time or money for them.

      Gaining the company of an incredibly attractive woman who knows what she is doing for less than $100 is a heck of a value.

      Remember, time is money. I can pick up chicks for free, but how much time investment is that, especially if she flakes (as they ALLLLL do) or is a drama queen (as they ALLLLLLL are.)

      It’s economics.

      Maybe someday I’ll meet that special someone but it’s just not viable or rational to treat women I’m into like a potential special someone. Especially since American women are such fat, spoiled, stupid, useless cunts.

    • Deansdale
      July 19, 2010 at 5:20 am

      “illusion of control”
      It’s feminazis who are obsessed with “control” to the extent it’s sickening to one’s stomach.
      I just had a GOOD TIME with a gorgeous woman who was not blowing me out, shit testing me or nagging about buying her stuff. As far as I can tell we both enjoyed ourselves. We were personal but not political, thank you very much, and you can shove your twisted ideas where the sun don’t shine.

  13. Deansdale
    July 19, 2010 at 5:09 am

    Most men are simply too morally indoctrinated to go for escorts.
    I was too, I took pride in thinking I will never pay for sex.
    The problem – if you can call it that – was that I was a 6 or 7 and so could not score better. I was never rich, I’m lazy and don’t care much about clothes. So I was happy with what I could get my hands on: mostly 6s, some 7s.
    Then my white-knight programming was undone and I had sex with a genuine 10. I paid for it – so what?! That was the best spent 100$ of my life, hands down. I realized then that men _really_ do all the things they do to get rich and famous to get hot babes.
    How many men will _never_ have sex with a 10? I kinda feel sorry for them.
    The girl was eager and kept smiling while doing everything I asked her to. I was “high” for hours. It was like being on drugs.

    And I know there’s no other method for me to get in bed with 10s. I know much about game but I still am dirt poor and too lazy to work on improving my looks and body language. And no matter how much some PUAs say with good game nothing else matters, I think it’s not true.
    But I’m… relaxed now. I know I can sleep with some of the most beautyful women on the planet. And that experience made me realize that that is a MAJOR goal in any mens life.

    • apc
      April 12, 2015 at 12:13 pm

      “I realized then that men _really_ do all the things they do to get rich and famous to get hot babes”.

      All right, guys, nothing less to add. He nailed it… the joint is closed. Please circulate!

  14. Phoenix
    July 25, 2010 at 12:57 am

    Here in Toronto we probably have a very healthy escort scene which is probably supported by a good amount of Americans. But for some reason the cult of the (smug, entitled, overconfident, indifferent) princess with a pussy of gold is as strong as ever. I’m sure there are tons of nice girls out there, but they do nothing to distinguish themselves.

    Similar to what Deansdale touched on, I think it was in my mid to late 20s that out of the blue a friend suggested that I see an escort to get rid of my “fear” of women. I was extremely insulted at the suggestion of paying for sex especially since the problem wasn’t me, but my disinterest/hesitation in talking to or approaching the malsocialized club sluts and just being another quick passenger on the conversation/pickup attempt carousel that puts even more wind into their overinflated egos.

    But many years later I reached the limit of my sexual frustration and took a risk on the escort scene. I really wish it wasn’t my only option at this point but at least that relief valve is there–I would not be in a very good mental state of mind at this point if there weren’t women available and willing to bump skin with. Often I don’t even have to go, just knowing a girl of my choosing is a phone call and around $110-120 away (30 min) I just “sabotage” myself and end up not going. They do not make up for someone that cares for you and wants to have sex with you without nominal compensation, but these girls provide a very valuable unrecognized service to society though none of us would want our daughers/sisters etc to be in that industry.

    I’ve missed out on a f*&$%$* lot socially and female-wise that I’m currently panicking to make up for, but it’s all been a blessing in disguise as I reached my personal level of financial independence recently just shy of my mid 30s (the real sense of the word as in not needing to work, not the vague sense that grrrl power girls have for it).

    My next step is to spend a good amount of time outside of this social cesspool otherwise I could parallel S*din*’s track record (except for the killing part) if I let this go on for another decade and a half.

    Wow, sorry for this long post and getting off track.

    • Redpill
      July 27, 2010 at 11:14 am

      You will feel those pangs for an “unpaid” relationship but just remember that is vestiges of your old bioprogramming that is sadly no longer relevant in today’s world.

    • June 13, 2012 at 5:09 pm

      whoa, dude, I obviously make fun of advocatus diaboli, but I never thought about your point of view….

      thanks for being so honest about your experiences, can I quote you for a blog post?

      • June 13, 2012 at 5:10 pm

        that’s phoneix, not redpill I was referring too, the way comments show up makes it difficult to see…

  15. Knee How
    June 12, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Where do you get started to start navigating the world of American escorts / sex tourism locations that are ideal for the American for a weekend? What’s the most effective way to pay to get sex every week?

  16. June 13, 2012 at 5:35 pm


    have you ever used psychadelic drugs?

    do you support legalization/decriminalization?

    I’m guessing you are Canadian or live near Canada as prostitution is illegal in the US and most prostitutes are not women you’d want to hook up with….

  17. Dave
    June 14, 2015 at 12:00 am

    More stories

  18. Clueless Virgin
    April 25, 2019 at 7:55 am

    I feel empty since I have never had a girlfriend since I never had the money to get a hot girlfriend.

    Meanwhile, I have threesome fantasies that are so far out of my reality now. Have you had the same problem and will fucking a few escorts fill that void? I am scared.

    Furthermore, it feels like I am a less of a man since I don’t have the looks and/or the tact to attract a woman and have to resort to escorts instead. What is flawed in my thinking here?

  19. Summer
    June 24, 2021 at 12:22 pm

    Dumb question. I’ve always been attracted to rich girls who were born rich. I think they are quality women. Someone else may think something else makes a quality women unlike me. So my question is, how do I find quality girls who escort? Is there a fundamental flaw in my thinking?

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