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An Interesting Ethical Question: July 19, 2010

Here is an interesting hypothetical situation that I have been aware of for many years.

The story:

You are a guy who has a prescription of adderall (or ritalin) for a legitimate medical reason.

You go out with a girl for drinking and it turns into a long night. Somewhere along the excessive drinking, you mention that a low dose (1/4th to 1/2 the total daily dosage) could help combat the effects of alcohol and allow her to party longer.

She assures you that she has no contra-indications for acute use of such drugs- such as seizures, heart arrhythmias, excessive nervous twitching and ingests it fully knowing that she is taking that drug.

Now the combination of more alcohol + flirting + this drug causes her to get incredibly horny and impulsive. But she is not impaired in any manner, and indeed may have motor skills, memory and executive mental function equal to her non-drunken state, inspite of her drinking. She starts reacting to touch, caresses and kissing like a cat in heat. Within an hour or two she literally drags you to have sex, or reacts very positively to your moves. Remember that she is not impaired, just very horny, tingly and has an itch that has to be scratched repeatedly.

Should you have mentioned in the beginning mixing low doses of that drug with alcohol often causes significantly increased horniness, without mental impairment. This is an interesting question, because the woman in question is not impaired enough to make her consent void. If anything, she is much less impaired than otherwise considering the amount of booze she has ingested.

She may just push you on her couch/ bed/ chair/ futon/ car back-east, pull your pants down and give you a BJ without you requesting it. She is fully conscious for the rest of your sucking/ fucking session and is a very enthusiastic and active participant in the proceedings, enjoying every moment of it. Moreover occasional use of such low dose stimulant + alcohol have not been shown to have deleterious physical effects in a woman of her age range and health.

These effects could occur in almost any healthy woman who has some degree of attraction to you.

An interesting hypothetical situation, isn’t it?

Comments?

  1. Black Rebel
    July 19, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    I can see that a girl willingly taking something you offered is not ethically your concern, sadly the courts do not (women = children, remember?). Even if you mention the possible side-effects (your choice…I wouldn’t say ‘this shit will make you think my dick is made of candy’, more like ‘this may lower your inhibitions’), you’re still culpable in the eyes of the law, and that’s just fucked up.
    —–

    You have no idea how effective and underhanded this is.. do you?

    I used to have access to certain substances that tend to lower the female inhibition and never had any problem supplying what was asked for (and reaping the considerable benefits).
    —–

    Ecstacy? Pot? What I am hinting at is on a different level.

    These days, older and wiser, I realize just how lucky I was to have never gotten in trouble for doing this.
    ——

    It is much easier to say that the guy took advantage of her when she was stoned on pot or high on ecstacy.

  2. Gorbachev
    July 19, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    I say completely ethical.

    But then again, I don’t write laws.
    —–

    It is an interesting question, isn’t it.

  3. Nestorius
    July 20, 2010 at 1:02 am

    Congratulations, you have discovered the secret recipe of the female aphrodisiac.
    Ethical? Who cares anyway?
    When you game a woman you play with her biochemistry. When you give her money to fuck you also play with her biochemistry. And when you give her this recipe you directly play with her biochemistry.

  4. PoonHound
    July 20, 2010 at 3:00 am

    i was not aware of that. Ritalin truly does rock.

  5. Vincent Ignatius
    July 20, 2010 at 6:06 am

    Very interesting question.

    Haven’t decided if it’s ethical, but I would definitely do it.
    —–

    Yes, it is interesting and would certainly diminish/eliminate LMR. But what do I know.. after all, it is just hypothetical. ;D

  6. Rollo Tomassi
    July 20, 2010 at 9:03 am

    Just to cover the bases first, knowingly administering or supplying a prescription drug to another person for which you are the one prescribed is a felony. No contest, that’s your ass.
    —-

    So is having sex with a woman who is even slightly drunk, should she change her mind.

    Legalism is a bitch, isn’t it? 👿

    Whether or not I would be tempted to do so would probably be situationally dependent. Like most ethics calls we tend to apply risk to reward ratios on the fly within the context of the environment.

    I should also add that I think it’s interesting that the only conversations about ethics I’ve ever had were proposed by men. I don’t think I’ve ever known a woman to propose a hypothetical ethical dilemma to ponder.

  7. Nestorius
    July 20, 2010 at 10:07 am

    I’m confused. Is this recipe hypothetical or tested?
    —–

    Read between the lines. Is it not a bit too specific to be hypothetical, but who wants liability issues?

    Let’s just say that Last Minute Resistance does not have to exist.

    • Nestorius
      July 20, 2010 at 11:17 am

      Ok, I get the hint.
      It seems that the recipe creates the tingle and shuts down the inhibitor inside her mind.
      —-

      It has to be written that way to avoid certain issues. 😉

      Next time don’t tell her, give her the recipe without letting her know.
      —-

      What can I say?

      • Nestorius
        July 20, 2010 at 12:24 pm

        Put it in the booze without her knowledge. Find a way to do it.
        —-

        Too obvious, especially when there are other options.

      • Nestorius
        July 20, 2010 at 12:26 pm

        This makes me wonder why until now none of those sexless scientists invented a recipe to create the tingle.
        —–

        It requires the woman to be attracted to you, to begin with!

  8. Slav
    July 20, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Huge gray area. It is unethical, as you deliberately concealed something that was to your immediate advantage.

    She should have asked if the medication has any other effects, other than increased alertness. Her naivety met your deceit, and you got some tail.
    —-

    Does alcohol have any effect other than helping people relax? Maybe women are easier when they are drunk, because they are relaxed and less inhibited.

    Couldn’t recommend you do this though. Is it worth compromising yourself, when you could have gotten an honest transaction via paid-sex? What if a gay man had done the same with you?
    —-

    Well, as I have hinted (the ‘many years ago’ part), it might have a place for a guy who is cash strapped.

    Plus, it is not as if she will be impaired in any way.. just very relaxed (alcohol) + alert and super horny (adderall). She could always find another guy if she was not into you.

  9. mano
    July 24, 2010 at 1:43 am

    —–Moreover occasional use of such low dose stimulant + alcohol have not been shown to have deleterious physical effects in a woman of her age range and health.

    I have a prescription for Adderall that a stupid American doctor gave me. I know if you really need it, there are no significant physical effects from taking it, but I don’t know if I really need it. What I do know is I like it in low doses (take less than 20mg per week).

    What are the effects of doing that?

  10. January 23, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    I know some females love drug-induced sex. But the retards who came up with this “Yes Means Yes” shit in Californian college campuses, feminists and mangina male-apologists who dislike paid sex and those who are recently attacking Bill Cosby have their heads up their asses and live in a total state of bliss. All this does is make feeble and psychologically emasculated men feel twitchy about something like consensual sex, which is what a lot of these idiots want.

  11. GP
    August 31, 2021 at 12:54 am

    AD, can modafinil be used for the same thing? Ritalin and adderall are very tough to get where I stay.

    Hmm.. no, it cannot be used that way. Indian laws make it a shitty country to live in, which is one of the reasons I moved away many years ago.

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