The Dark Side: 5

I have chronicled my move towards the dark side in previous parts of this series, and some other posts. This one is devoted to the tastes, or lack thereof, of women who rejected me.

Some of you might still be under the impression that women who rejected me over the years had better options or higher standards. So read on..

Note- All the women I talk about below were 4s, 5s and low 6s. Not a single one of those described below was a high 6, let alone a 7. In every single case the women, by their own admission, did not stop having sex with that guy. In most cases, they had either recently dated the guy in question or were still occasionally seeing him.

1] Guy pissed in girls mouth while she was blowing him, and then proceeded to piss on her face.

2] Guy pissed in closet of her parent’s house- in front of her parents.

3] Guy had extensive scarring from third degree burns + lived on welfare.

4] Guy who knocked her up later, was homeless.

5] Guy broke into her house after an argument and destroyed her furniture, TV etc (a few).

6] Guy had a kid with another woman, cheated on her and forgot to pick her parents at the airport.

7] Guy had cerebral palsy but normal intelligence.

8] Guy could not get it up more than once every two days.

9] Guy cheated on her, or was cheating on her (very common).

10] Guy had told her that there was no future in their relationship (a few).

11] Guy had a serious criminal record (a few).

12] Guy had ODed and almost died on more than one occasion + had shitty job (a few).

13] Guy had serious gambling addiction (more than a few).

14] Guy was in jail.

15] Guy had deserted her after a brief affair and impregnation (a few).

16] Guy ‘liked’ young children- if you get the drift (two).

17] Guy was a bland 30-something guy, especially if the girl was non-white (many).

18] Husband was no longer sexually interested in her (a few).

19] Guy had borderline mental retardation but good-looking.

20] Guy never had a real job in his life- above minimum wage (a few).

Yes, my patient readers, these are the men who plain women chose to have sex with- over me. To say that this pissed me off during my dry spells, from 20-24, is a gross understatement.

Comments? and feel free to add your own stories.

PS: As you can probably infer from the above, my ability to open a conversation and chat up women was always pretty good. Plus, I was never shy, or apologetic, about my intentions.

  1. the dude
    July 28, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    why call it the dark side when your point is this is the right side

    Depends on your view point..

  2. Vincent Ignatius
    July 29, 2010 at 5:53 am

    Looks like a lot of these girls went for badboy asshole types.

    I would have felt less insulted if they had just gone for badboy asshole types. But a guy on welfare with extensive permanent scaring, or a 20-something who could barely get it up.. or even worse- a guy who ‘liked’ children (in that way). Seriously?

  3. Numm
    July 29, 2010 at 6:12 am

    Yeah, I’m with you 100% on this one. I’m totally alright with girls ruining their lives by dating badboys, it gives me a good belly laugh, but good god, dating someone who can’t get it up is sad, and dating a pedophile is disgusting, and supportive of terrible acts.

  4. Herbal Essence
    July 29, 2010 at 11:10 am

    Some ´explanations´
    1. Women are addicted to drama.

    2. Women want other people to feel sorry for her / to rescue her.

    3. The badboy thing, of course, is well-travelled ground.

  5. almost 40 year old virgin
    July 29, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    Excellent observations, you have my heartfelt sympathies for suffering these bimbos. Even as long as it took to build up attraction to them and enough rapport so they told their stories.

    I only suffered them from 20-24, and often called them out.

    Book of Bonecrker ( ) describes this deviant phenomenon quite adequately. Recommended reading for any man trying to break through the “nice guy/subservient male” brainwashing.

  6. Y
    July 29, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Sorry but a had to laugh. Not at you AD, but at these women. I understand its frustrating to be overlooked in favor of someone how isnt as qualified/interesting/whatever but I cant help but feel happy for you. You may see this as rejection/disrespect(which it is) but I see it as dodging bullets. I mean, what kind of woman CHOOSES to date a pedophile and/or retard?

  7. thales
    August 22, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    I think that you should devoutly thank whatever god you worship that you successfully avoided being sucked into any of those toxic vaginas and eventually wised up.

    I am an atheist, but can see your point.

  8. P Ray
    August 25, 2012 at 4:45 am

    There are 2 more situations to be aware of:
    – When a woman refuses to interact positively with you when she is attractive … means she has rejected you.
    – When you become suddenly attractive to a woman who is:
    past childbearing years
    in a dead-end job
    with no education or a large unpaid student loan
    has health problems
    has mental problems
    has children by other guys

    Sudden reversal of disdain by the younger one, and sudden acceptance by the older one, comes with a price tag that is not immediately apparent.
    If a woman takes a long time to “get to know you better” … she is probably stringing you along. Mainly because “attraction is not a choice” and “calculative love will change when you no longer measure up”

  9. August 25, 2012 at 10:34 am

    3] Guy had extensive scarring from third degree burns + lived on welfare.

    7] Guy had cerebral palsy but normal intelligence.

    20] Guy never had a real job in his life- above minimum wage (a few).

    –This says way more about how crappy you are Mr. Diablo then the men or women you are tearing apart….

    Someone who has injuries or a handicap can still be a quality person deserving of love….

    Also, a man is not his job, #20 says just as much about the crappy economy as his “lack of ambition.”

    • P Ray
      September 9, 2012 at 9:06 am

      If love is deserved, that means love is earned.
      If love is earned, love is a transaction.
      whether money can buy you love depends on where you shop.

      • September 9, 2012 at 9:23 am

        deserve means to be worthy of…

        earn means to receive as return for effort…

        subtle difference, but I’m sure your smart enough to tell….

        anyways you might find this interesting….

        hehe men as a conduit of resources to women….

      • P Ray
        September 9, 2012 at 8:50 pm

        “deserve means to be worthy of…
        earn means to receive as return for effort…”
        Playing with semantics won’t turn back or change the attitudes of people who think they’ve been shortchanged.

        Marriage/relationships has been the most effective means for most men to have their resources transferred to women.
        Note: women will pay for or reciprocate towards the men they are attracted to, other men get to see a one-way transaction.

  10. October 10, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    That shit is the REAL dark side. Are women that desperate for dick or is the dick that good to where they burn their own bridges? What kind of motherfucker pisses in a closet in front of a woman’s parents? The list of “options” is profoundly disturbing to even the soul of me!

  11. P Ray
    May 19, 2015 at 10:35 am

    Interesting. Explains why most women with average guys hate the average guy.
    Of course, everybody knows that every woman actually has the genius of einstein and the beauty of Skye Ronelle Ferkinstad Stracke. /sarcasm
    Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned! Being rejected by an attractive man makes women cruel to other men
    Researchers found that being rejected by an attractive man actually makes a woman more likely to turn down an unattractive one
    It is as if distancing herself from the unattractive man helps her retain the idea that she is high status, cushioning the blow of the rejection

    By Sophie Freeman For Mailonline

    Published: 11:44 GMT, 14 May 2015 | Updated: 12:52 GMT, 14 May 2015

    It’s the plotline of many a cheesy rom-com: Woman rejected by a good-looking lothario is scooped up by the Average Joe who’s been waiting in the wings all along.

    But in real life it may be a very different story, according to a study.

    Researchers found that, rather than being grateful for the fall-back option, being rejected by an attractive man actually makes a woman more likely to turn down an unattractive one, and to describe him harshly.

    Not interested: Scientist say that women who have been rejected distancing themselves from an unattractive man to help her retain the idea that she is high status, cushioning the blow of the rejection

    It is as if distancing herself from the unattractive man helps her retain the idea that she is high status, cushioning the blow of the rejection.

    ‘Participants rejected by the attractive man also derogated the unattractive man even when the unattractive man offered acceptance,’ said the psychologists from the University of Toronto.

    ‘Social psychologists theorise that individuals seek connection following rejection.

    ‘However, accepting connection from a low status other may imply that one is of similarly low status, which may call into question one’s prospects for future acceptance.’

    As usual, if a woman “discovers” you past her fertile age,
    you are being settled for, and will, after marriage, be treated like a dray beast.

    From what I read, it’s not too far of a stretch to say that for many men,
    “wedding cake is the celebration that she’ll never have to do oral, anal or vaginal sex (with you) ever again”.

    • Hmic
      November 3, 2018 at 3:18 am

      It’d a jumble of consciousness-lacking pride, vanity, and, I said it already, self-unconsciousness.

      If you play right you pass on your genes (at a fee depending on what hand nature dealt you and how well you play it), otherwise you don’t.

      Marriages lasted, families and relationships held, because of lack of freedom and options.
      Taken away that the constraints were, the shift towards jungle dynamics was rather neat and rapid.
      Sure, civilized as they are, they have it tirelessly plastered with rationalizations and verbiage, but what it is is, that constraints removed, you have a yucky mixture of battle of the sex, competitive deception, irresponsibility, amorality, and, yes, money costs to stand too :)).

      (Even having to flatter, and compromise with the female’s pride and vanity, is a way of paying her.)

      • hoipolloi
        November 3, 2018 at 7:46 am

        You are spot on – Marriages lasted, families and relationships held, because of lack of freedom and options. This is the secret behind many morals of the past. With the discovery of birth control pill and availability of economic options the jungle dynamics are in.

      • P Ray
        June 23, 2019 at 10:22 pm

        The birth control pill is there to make sure she doesn’t carry the baby of the guy she’s NOT attracted to.
        Women have no problems suffering for the guys they ARE attracted to.
        Look at all the single mothers that say: While you are my boyfriend …
        1. If you can’t handle having no sex, please don’t contact me
        2. If you can’t handle having no kids by me, please don’t contact me
        3. If you can’t handle that my kids come first, please don’t contact me
        4. If you can’t handle paying my expenses, please don’t contact me

        A lot of stupid men think contraception benefits them, when it’s actually a clear sign the woman doesn’t think you are worth breeding with

        And remember, isn’t it interesting how the guys they hit up for child support … are only the ones that can pay for it? Almost as if they want the regular guys to pay for Chadspawn. That’s where a lot of taxes go … and men are mostly net tax-payers, women are mostly net tax-takers.

  12. P Ray
    November 16, 2018 at 5:02 am

    Another good example of a “girl who is too good for an ordinary guy”:
    Student hairdresser, 21, unmasked as gangster’s moll who helped run £3m drugs empire with boyfriend and two brothers is jailed for five years

    Mother-of-one Jessica Lang sent texts to help gang deal drugs in Blackpool. Her boyfriend Scott Le Drew, 31, was jailed for 11 years. Mob bosses Anthony and Bradley Gill face 14 years

    Lel, single mother and boyfriend is a drug dealer.
    Almost as if women are racking up the stupid decisions so that they can then turn up as saggy, sexless entitlement queens later in a church or religious building, to tell the preacher “Find me a man!”

  13. P Ray
    May 1, 2019 at 9:33 pm

    I have chronicled my move towards the dark side in previous parts of this series, and some other posts. This one is devoted to the tastes, or lack thereof, of women who rejected me.

    Some of you might still be under the impression that women who rejected me over the years had better options or higher standards. So read on..

    Note- All the women I talk about below were 4s, 5s and low 6s. Not a single one of those described below was a high 6, let alone a 7. In every single case the women, by their own admission, did not stop having sex with that guy. In most cases, they had either recently dated the guy in question or were still occasionally seeing him.

    1] Guy pissed in girls mouth while she was blowing him, and then proceeded to piss on her face.

    There is a similar romantic story to (1) – from 2019, and here is how it goes:
    As Maria stepped through the door of her new apartment in Italy with her fiance, she believed she was crossing into an exciting new life that her Romanian village could never provide. But after setting down her suitcase, her fiance presented her with a bill for every gift, dinner and holiday bought during their courtship and told her to settle the debt through prostitution.

    When she laughed at what she thought was a joke, he beat her, tore up her clothes and urinated on her.

    If Asian guys need some trim from a Caucasian, this is the kind of stories they should bring up and point out: What if that amazing fellow she is dating, who is standoffish and aloof, is merely racking up a bill that she will eventually have to pay? Of course, that depends on Caucasian women not being racist to the extent that they won’t even listen to the Asian guy …

    • P Ray
      June 23, 2019 at 9:35 am

      Somewhat related, this is from the Thomas Gilbert Jr. murder trial (white Chad Thundercock living in a flat provided by his father, with an allowance from his father – shot his father in the head after his allowance was reduced):

      “It seemed to me he didn’t have experience to do that,” said Anna Rothschild, 53, a publicist who dated Mr. Gilbert in 2013. “He didn’t seem to be highly intelligent, in my humble opinion.”

      Ms. Rothchild testified that she found Mr. Gilbert “odd,” but continued to date him because “he was very good looking.”

      Ms. Ressner said she regularly found evidence that Mr. Gilbert was seeing other women while they shared an apartment: fingerprints on a bedroom mirror, an unexplained box of condoms and even strands of other women’s hair.

      Remember women want nice, caring, intelligent men but you are not owed a relationship

      In a sentence: women like to mislead men they don’t like …

      • P Ray
        June 23, 2019 at 9:42 am

        He made the police officers escorting him look like manlets. I am very sure we are not being told about the love letters he is getting.

  14. P Ray
    May 12, 2019 at 8:56 pm

    Just in time to commemorate the event:

    Some of the kids will become criminal, others will simply become affordable sex workers.
    So it’s really tough for me to issue a blanket condemnation, sex workers are still workers.

    • P Ray
      October 2, 2020 at 7:52 pm

      Remember this image when you hear a woman say: “I’m looking for a nice guy who is smart and kind to me”

      They leave out the bits: Must be attractive to other women but loyal to only me and chases me on my terms and can turn off his emotions when I tell him not to be attracted to me.

      Women make criteria for men, then complain about being treated like objects.

      There is a reason they are called the MEME GENDER.

      • Jack Donovan
        October 2, 2020 at 8:27 pm

        Pee Rei,

        That sure is a hansom fella you got there. Sure you ain’t ghey like us at the wolves of vineland? Sure looks like you know how to love the white man, too bad you is a hindu muffin…

      • P Ray
        October 2, 2020 at 9:16 pm

        Just passing on the knowledge, I am a blackpill dealer.

        Of course if you don’t want to know more about life and prefer surprises, carry on being oblivious.

      • Jack Donovan
        October 3, 2020 at 9:15 am

        black pill, blue pill, red pill, it’s all the same to me. When white goys see that Roosh V’s “Game” doesn’t work, I get ’em liquored up and teach ’em “gayme.” It’s all about love of the white man, too bad you and AD couldn’t get your “white guy with a tan HBD” paperwork from Steve Sailer. Then you would be getting sum (up the bum!)

      • P Ray
        October 5, 2020 at 12:15 am

        Lel, for me speaking as one of the original commenters on Omega Virgin Revolt (the guy who originated the term black pill) – I can say you don’t seem to understand that all the other pills are attempts at accommodation or subversion.

        Only the black pill tells you that a sudden change in circumstance – if you are not a top 10-20% man – is simply other people setting you up for trickery or fraud.

        It doesn’t matter what type of relationship you are talking about, straight or homosexual.

        So you can scoff all you like, but as someone else has said If you deny reality, it will hurt you

  15. P Ray
    May 13, 2019 at 9:03 pm

    And years later, after being insufferable bitches and likely to produce a kid with mental issues … older women have the cheek to say:

    Many women are unpleasant … but the main reason is because they’re interacting with a guy they’re not attracted to … but can’t say that for exposing their shallowness … so talk in nebulous / magical terms about “creepy” and “misogyny” … yet women do nothing to reduce the size of the domestic violence industry with their extra-sensory perception and personality detectors.

    • P Ray
      February 19, 2020 at 10:39 pm
      From American wrestling legends to All Blacks and NRL stars: Father who burned his kids alive in a car rubbed shoulders with the rich and famous before tragedy that’s rocked Australia
      Rowan Baxter, 42, killed his three children in a horrific Brisbane car inferno
      His wife, Hannah, 31, died later in hospital after suffering ‘significant’ burns
      ‘He’s poured petrol on me’, witnesses claimed she shrieked from driver’s seat
      Hannah managed to escape the car and was hosed down by a Good Samaritan
      But she died in hospital on Wednesday evening after suffering ‘significant’ burns
      The couple separated recently and shut down their fitness coaching business
      Ex-sportsman’s website described him as an accomplished body weight trainer
      Baxter pictured posing with WWE’s The Undertaker and All Black Nathan Harris
      For 24/7 confidential support, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14

      Woman’s personality detector stays broken for years from the time Chad appeared.

      Remember, she has no problem being around the guy who beats her up that is attractive to other women.

      But if the regular/ugly guy talks to her, “Excuse me, I am going to call the police”, says Karen.

      This is where Gunwitch got it right: “Make the ho say no.” … the faster the woman says no, the more unsuitable she is to be with you.

      And let’s face it, if she waits at the finish line to fuck the winner, her relationship is not sincere.

      Because you don’t want someone who is only with you through the good times.

      • P Ray
        February 19, 2020 at 10:58 pm

        One example of Karen’s wrath:

        I’m not sure what wasting security resources does, but everytime a stupid incident gets phoned in, security are tied up not actually patrolling or being able to confront criminals that are at large.

  16. P Ray
    March 13, 2020 at 6:08 am

    Very useful reasoning: from an anonymous commenter:
    Theory: a reason why females have to actively hate men they don’t like

    Something that has been discussed multiple times is men and women both have standards but men have much lower beauty standards.
    This disparity has been explained by these facts
    1) eggs are expensive and sperm is cheap
    2) women can only have limited number of children in their lifetime
    3) women have to invest heavily in their children from the moment the child is conceived.
    Nothing controversial here.

    But another phenomenon, equally important, that is often overlooked, except in marginal groups like incels, is the disparity between men and women as far as their reaction is concerned when they are approached by, or even are in position of being approached, like being in the same hallway or room, by someone that is physically lower than their standard.

    Ask yourself: what’ll be your reaction if there’s a 2/10 (say, minimum average standard for a male is 3/10), obese girl in your class.
    At best, you’ll treat her as a human being; just someone you are not sexually attracted to.
    At worst, you’ll even feel pity for her that she will never be able to get married, have sex, etc.
    (Even though, it’s probably untrue.)

    Things get complicated when a female has to interact with a male that is lower than her standard, say 5/10.
    It’s almost common sense here on this forum that she’ll be as mean to him as she can and get away with it.
    At best, she’ll frown at the subhuman if he has to interact with her, even though the interaction is entirely nonsexual like a group assignment, and secretly wish him to die.
    At worst, if he even dares as so much as to compliment, she is predictably going to turn to an alpha authority to get him removed from her field of vision.
    “Alpha authority” can be her boyfriend, Twitter followers, HR, police, etc.
    It’s not outlandish to think that a woman would not restrain herself from killing a male, or preferably getting him killed, for his crime of being ugly if she could get away with that.

    Analyzing this scenario from an evolutionary-psychological and biological prospective, it’s not difficult to reason why it is so.

    This disparity has its roots in the differences in physical strength between the genders.
    It boils down to the fact that the male, even the betast of the beta male, can overpower a female physically.
    In a lawless jungle society, it’s not hard to grasp that forced sex was a commonplace thing, considering male frustration combined with lawlessness.
    So a single rape incidence had the possibility to foil all her plans and shit tests to get alpha genes and she could end up raising a beta male’s seed for like two years.
    Not the ideal ending and probably the worst thing to happen to her after death.
    Naturally, the alpha and his disciples were the only authority she could turn to to get the beta removed.

    Here comes the complex part: removing the beta after rape, in accord with modern laws, was completely useless.
    He had achieved his mission of spreading his seed and she was going to have the child anyway because of lack of “Plan B” and handy abortion.
    So, she had to detect and preferably get the culprit killed or beaten BEFORE he was going to rape.
    It’s a little complicated thing to do but here’s rule of thumb: alphas, the desired mates, had harems and women came without efforts to them.
    So they had no reason to rape.
    So it was only a frustrated, virgin beta thing.
    That’s why the correlation.

    What the thumb rule is not:

    beta male = rapist

    what it is:

    beta male = potential rapist

    For a cave woman’s perspective, the difference didn’t matter.
    That’s why women give all sorts of signals to the alphas to remove the “potential rapist” by being unconsciously (and sometimes consciously) bitchy in case of interaction, any interaction, between the beta male and the female.

    tl;dr; Women have high standards but also an outright hatred for lower-than-standard males.
    It can be explained by the fact that low SMV men are not getting laid, probably frustrated and can resort to forcing females to have sex.
    By wanting to get the beta removed, women are subconsciously motivated by the desire to remove a potential “rapist” and safely execute their evolutionary strategy without interference.

    Comment: Proven true. Being 5/10 or lower as a man is frowned upon by women

    • jack donovan
      October 3, 2020 at 11:14 pm

      hai pee rei,

      ugh, I can now see why Steve Sailer did not give you the “white guy with a tan” HBD paperwork even though you sent in the $19.95…

      but look on the bright side, horrid wimmons like that kim k kunt (kkk, tehehe…) pay lots of money to get those puckered asshole lips you naturally have unless you botexed ’em….

      but if ya threw on a pair of tighty whities over yer face, you could get richard spencer to wreck those lips like he wrecks sum rectum….

  17. P Ray
    April 1, 2020 at 2:33 am

    And seen elsewhere – reminder that females consider you a misogynist while listening to Tyrone insult them and Chad degrades them

    “Fuck you incel! Misogynistic prick!” The fat landwhale screams at you.
    “You should be ashamed!”. She screams this at you while Lil’ pump or Young thug rap in the background about how they’re “fucking bitches and hos”

    “This ideology is toxic, misogynistic nonsense and needs to be eradicated!” She screams at you, when just 30 minutes before chad put his foot on her head and fucked her silly, spitting on her and calling her a whore.

    I fucking hate femacites.
    They are so hypocritical all the time.
    WE are bad because we are “toxic misogynists” when they willingly submit themselves to the same type of shit, just the only difference is we are not good looking and do not have society’s favor.
    Yet more proof women would not fight back if men came together in solidarity and PUT THESE FUCKING WHORES IN CAGES.

    Stupid bitches only call us the names they call us for we are sub8 men.
    A racist, toxic, etc, is what females REALLY want to call all sub8 men.

    Well then Call us misogynist all you want foids, but you willingly submit yourself to it every single day, whether it be a new Tyrone tune you dance to at a party or a Chad dominating you in the bedroom.

    1.3 On PornHub, women consume most of the porn where women are violently raped and abused
    1.4 62% of women have fantasies about rape and other forced sex acts
    1.5 50% of female porn viewers admitted to watching porn involving extreme violence against women
    1.6 Women are drawn more than men to nonfiction stories of rape, murder and serial killers

  18. P Ray
    April 1, 2020 at 5:01 am

    Also seen:
    One of the advantages of living in my building is that I’m surrounded by single (loser whores) single mothers.
    Some even live in the same apartment together cause they can’t afford more.
    It’s delightful to see them struggle at the end of the month to pay the rent.
    It’s amazing when they lose control and start yelling at their little bastard muts for misbehaving.
    That makes me think that their lives could’ve been much better if they had chosen the ugly nerdy short guy with a decent future and who would’ve given everything to make them happy.
    Every single mother was at one point courted by an ugly but good man.
    But no, they being the sluts they are, decided to fuck the alcoholic and drug addict Chad who left them like a piece of trash as soon as he learned they were pregnant.
    Remember guys NEVER feel sorry for a single mother.
    NEVER help a single mother.
    They deserve every second of that hell.

  19. P Ray
    September 23, 2020 at 6:54 pm

    Remember, it’s called Looks-Money-Status because that is the hierarchy.
    Looks … is the SUPREME requirement
    (Ya, I didn’t edit anything, so this woman’s words ring in eternity):

    I am falling for a man without a home and I think I’m okay with it. (self.ThrowRA57296)
    submitted 1 day ago by ThrowRA57296

    Reposting on my profile so the post is still in existence as Relationship Advice deleted the Original Post
    He’s so handsome, kind. He always makes me laugh. He doesn’t make me feel uncomfortable or peer pressure me. He only kisses my cheek because he says I’m too good for him. He lives in a shelter that is literally only 10 minutes from my house. I’ve actually seen him walking by before but never thought twice about it.
    He has a curfew at the shelter. So he and I only get to hang out from the hours for 9-5.
    We met in the park by my house. One day I stopped to get ice cream and brought my dog there to play. It’s a place where a few of the local homeless spend their days. Most of them are old drunks/junkies but he’s not like them. But he is only an occasional drinker. We almost immediately clicked and he sat on the ground and just talked to me while my pup licked his face and. Now he walks with me all over town. He buys me lunch or ice cream. This morning he said he had a surprise for me. It was a little baby joint of weed he bought for me since he knows I smoke for my epilepsy and he doesn’t. I’ve been alone my whole life and used by men so much.
    He is just different. He always texts me good morning and good night. Calls me cute pet names. He’s someone I’ve never experienced before. He listens to the things I say. He fawns over my artwork and my fucking god his Freckles. It’s the nickname I’ve given him. I’ve never been around a boy who is literally nervous to touch my leg or arm. It’s honestly adorable.
    The others who he stays at the shelter with all tease us about dating but so far we are casual. He likes to hold my hand in public but he always gets nervous and pulls away cause he feels like he doesn’t deserve me.
    He’s been opened and honest about his past and how he got to where he is now (corona). He’s only been homeless a few months and only recently got the spot at the shelter. The thing is….
    If he stays there for a little longer they will give him special permission to pick two nights a week where he can sleep somewhere else. The shelter runs on an honor system so there’s some people who have been there for 7-10 years. While the newbies get kicked out if they miss curfew and don’t have a good reason.
    He and I have been discussing him spending those two nights at my house. He cannot live with me full time ever because of the rules of my rental agreement and I will not risk that for him. But I feel like if we made this step it’d make us officially a couple.
    Idk where I’m going other than I want outside perspective.
    EDIT you can be skeptical of him without spewing your misandrist white privilege about how all homeless men are scary predators. Some of you disgust me and are proof of why the world is garbage.
    EDIT 2 I woke up this morning to a big excited text message that he got his temporary ID today and I am so proud of him ❤️ thank you for all your input! I promise you this isn’t a fake. You all are just so privileged as said above if something isn’t absolutely perfect right off the jump you shit on it. Please please please think before you judge someone off of their circumstances!
    Edit 3 I read all your comments (yes even the garbage ones) and hearing your stories made me smile! So many different people from all walks of life and that’s why I enjoy coming to reddit for advice! I will continue at the extra turtle pace with him that we are on now. Blessed be!

    • P Ray
      September 23, 2020 at 8:04 pm

      Looking further, this woman also mentions that this guy has kids.
      So …
      handsome this is #1
      has kids
      no job
      no education

      Sounds like a fixup for Superwoman! Especially if the guy is white!

      • P Ray
        October 5, 2020 at 11:00 am

        Related: This woman thought she could tame a murderer (maybe get him to murder people she didn’t like, and it backfired? … or maybe she thought Not All Murderers Are Like That – NAMALT?)
        Russian bride is beaten to death by her husband ‘in jealous rage’ at their wedding party: Newlywed ‘thought she could tame groom who had previous murder conviction’
        Stepan Dolgikh, 33, attacked the bride at an alcohol-fuelled wedding party
        Oksana Poludentseva, 36, had believed she could help to reform the convict
        But he flew into a drunken rage and accused her of ‘behaving incorrectly’
        Dolgikh dumped his bride in a ravine not far from the Siberian village

  20. P Ray
    March 7, 2021 at 11:10 am

    Useful image about the reality of dating “if you are not the man women chase”:

    1)If you are paying for the date
    2)if you have to censor your speech during the conversation
    3)if you have to be taller than her
    4)if you have to be richer than her
    5)if you have to be more educated than her
    6)if you have to break your plans to be with her
    7)if you have to handle her disagreements with others
    8)if you have to go on dates where she chooses the venue
    9)if you have to drive her around all the time
    10)if you have got no regular sex despite 1-9

    she is not attracted to you!

    Remember: women only apply standards to men they are not attracted to, and want to use … because they know men attracted to them, will try and compensate with other things AND women like to S.I.G.N.:
    Need to be right

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