What is the Reward of Social Acceptance?

Humans beings care about what other think because, for most of history, it mattered.

So tell me something-

Does it still matter? Really?

Almost every single person who expresses any adverse opinion about your actions or thoughts would never help you even if you had never upset him/her in the first place. What others think about you ceased to be important with the development of the first cities, and became inconsequential after post ww2 technological and social changes.

The opinion of others matter only in small isolated groups where you have depend on each other for survival and safety. Once the group size exceeds 10k people- it matters less, 100k- it matters very little, 1 million- it is inconsequential.

Isn’t that the rationale behind ‘game’ in urban areas anyway? So what about using escorts? What is the difference?

Comments?

  1. The Plague Doctor
    August 26, 2010 at 10:40 am

    How many people in your daily life know that you use escorts?

    More than a few.

  2. the dude
    August 26, 2010 at 10:46 am

    too simplistic. Opinions on you matter at work, also when you change jobs, or if you are am entrepreneur inquiries will be made to recent business partners and banks. Or take your prostitutes, opinion on their service quality matters, which necessitates some kind of social conformity. So it didnt fall away, just changed shape.

    In most cultures on earth, with the exception of the US, nobody cares about such things. Do you really think that using escorts is such a big deal in W. Europe, E. Europe, Asia, S. America?

  3. the dude
    August 26, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    the opinion of others on prostitutes matter for their business

  4. Herbal Essence
    August 27, 2010 at 5:43 am

    It’s taken me a lifetime of experiences to reach this conclusion, but there is frankly no reason for most men to support our society as it is.

    Unless you are in the top percentile of attractiveness, powern, wealth, or athletic ability, our status quo is rigged against you. The top males amass and maintain power by playing the game their way, and making a different set of rules for us pee-ons. Even if you have above attributes, you’re still vulnerable to a myriad of socially-constructed pitfalls. And if you’re a minority, you have even more hoops to jump through than a comparable white male.

    As men, why should we support this system? We are perceived as disposable batteries. Furthermore, why should the opinion of people who can’t think for themselves matter to us?

    In the past, males had to follow the rules set by the tribal leaders or their survival would be threatened. Nowdays, this is no longer so. In fact, a man can have much better chances of survival and even prosperity if he goes his own way. How healthy is it for men to mindlessly march off to war or the coal mines? (metaphorically and literally speaking.) Of course, this all applies to way more than just women and dating.

    • Herbal Essence
      August 27, 2010 at 5:44 am

      should say “power” in 1st line of 2nd paragraph. Whoops!

  5. August 27, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    Holy crap your view on life is sooooo myopic.

    The answer is SELF-ESTEEM! Everything we experience in life is filtered through our own self-image. Self-Esteem is what makes us see a glass half-full vs. half-empty.

    —-

    Is it SELF-ESTEEM if someone else has to tell you?

    We are social beings and what people think about us affects our self-esteem DRAMATICALLY. It’s what makes someone go to hookers for sex… because they don’t think they deserve a normal relationship. And the more they pay for sex, the more they rationalize that they’re the kind of person who needs to pay for sex. The ego takes care of the rest and says it’s “OK” even “better”. But, the ego is so fragile that it can’t take a blow to it’s identity. So through cognitive dissonance and self-deception it invalidates any conflicting ideas. It’s not smart… no. Which is why rebuttals are often logical fallacies.
    —-

    Talk about that stuff once you stop scrounging for sex.

    So, does it matter?

    Only if you want to be mentally healthy and happy.
    —-

    Depending on others to validate your worth is not the path to happiness or health.

    • August 27, 2010 at 1:50 pm

      Logical fallacies. See, I told you.
      1. “if someone has to tell you?” Can you elaborate? I think you’re misunderstanding what Self-esteem is.
      2. “Scrounging”… You’re projecting.
      3. I didn’t say, “depending on”. You did.

      • Redpill
        December 11, 2010 at 9:59 pm

        After reading your blog posts, you totally scrounge for sex! 😉

        If you actually enjoy the chase, more power to you.

    • Herbal Essence
      August 27, 2010 at 6:28 pm

      Ah, thank you Pussyotic. Always good to have the females from the peanut gallery weigh in. Target practice.

      1. Anyone who depends on other people’s approval or attention for their self-esteem is fucked. No matter who they’re fucking. Other people can bolster your self-esteem but the decision is up to you.
      One of the biggest reasons women are so weak and useless is that they believe other people “make” them feel a certain way. Nobody makes you feel any emotion, you choose to feel that emotion, and you choose to not shift the emotional state to something better. It’s all your decision.

      2. Wealthy and powerful men have been frequenting prostitutes aince the beginning of time. Do they strike you as having low self-esteem, or not feeling deserving of a good relationship?

      3. Does the average relationship strike you as normal? An arrogant, parasitic, emotional basketcase digging her claws into a man and sucking his blood, with the full support of the government? I’ll pass.

      • August 29, 2010 at 7:13 pm

        You have no concept of the connection between self-worth and social dynamics. Read any book on ’emotional intelligence’. We are, at our core, social beings. Whether we want it to or not, how others view us WILL alter our self image. I’ll break it down for you… if a woman says something demeaning to you, you can ignore it as a ‘fluke’. But if you are getting that reaction often, the subconcious will tell you that your identity is that of a person who is bad with women. Instead of placing the responsibility on oneself, the ego, as a protection mechanism, will accept the identity, but place blame outside oneself, e.g., on women. That’s when you get true misogyny and sexism… Anger at women for your own faults. BTW, using the phrase, “depends on” right after I pointed out that it was a logical fallacy was not logical.

      • Herbal Essence
        August 30, 2010 at 6:06 pm

        Pulsotic says-“Whether we want it to or not, how others view us WILL alter our self image.”

        Well, here’s the thing. I’m quite successful in my career in a very competitive industry, I get told I’m a genius by different people at least once a month, I’ve had a multibillionaire tell me face-to-face “you’re an interesting guy,” and I’ve helped create stuff that some of the richest and most powerful people in the world have sitting in their libraries. I think I’m getting quite a bit of social approval.

        I have chosen NOT to base my self-esteem on the opinions of a depraved and child-like gender that would rather have 3 babies with a meth-cooking biker than grow the fuck up and think like a rational adult.

        Pulsotic- “using “depends on” right after I pointed out that it was a logical fallacy was not logical.”

        Huh? I think you should look up the meaning of Depend in your OED. “I do not depend on” means my self-esteem is solid whether or not some capricious cunt says it does.

      • August 31, 2010 at 12:11 am

        “Depend is a brand of unisex adult underwear for those experiencing urinary or fecal incontinence by Kimberly-Clark. They were the first such product, introduced in 1984.”
        All I got is wiki…
        Seriously, though. You are not debating rationally. All your language is highly emotional charged. Almost like a woman.
        You claim to be a genius, yet neglect basic psychology. If your conscious mind truly were capable of controlling your subconscious like that, then you’d be a Jedi. Wait, no… a Sith lord.

      • The Plague Doctor
        August 31, 2010 at 12:17 am

        Pulsotic, your last comment is 100% pure ad hominem, which is ironic for somone who keeps hammering on about logical fallacies.

      • August 31, 2010 at 12:27 am

        I 100% agree with you.
        Last post was tongue in cheek. I forgot to hit Shift-Sarcasm.

      • The Plague Doctor
        August 31, 2010 at 12:40 am

        Yeah right, you wrote “Seriously, though.”

      • September 2, 2010 at 8:19 am

        I’m man enough to admit when I’m wrong.
        I was wrong to agree with you earlier.
        Of the 82 word comment, 31 words were a bad joke, 5 were a really funny joke, 28 words were a valid point, and 18 (roughly 22%) were ad hominem. Argumentum ad hominem is not always fallacious. Considering how hateful his comments are, I think it’s quite valid to question his ability to think clearly.

  6. marlon
    August 27, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    “Almost every single person who expresses any adverse opinion about your actions or thoughts would never help you even if you had never upset him/her in the first place”.

    I have found this to be true. The people wo want to help you will tailor the adverse opinion to be helpful to you, or simply just take the time and help you. These are the people you heed.

    The rest? If there is truth in what they say, heed it, if it’s rubbish, ignore it, but either way, don’t be personally affected by what they say.

    • The Plague Doctor
      August 28, 2010 at 1:16 am

      I have been punished for non-conformism, but never rewarded for conformism!
      —-

      So why care about conformism? We live in an era where men can move away from bad systems to less worser systems.

      • The Plague Doctor
        August 30, 2010 at 7:50 pm

        Yeah, that was my point. “worser” is bad grammar by the way.

    • anon
      September 13, 2010 at 3:29 am

      That is soooo true. Most people don’t give two craps about you and if you depend on validation from others, then you are gonna wind up like a junkie always chasing the next fix.

  7. Awake
    August 31, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Pulsotic :
    “Depend is a brand of unisex adult underwear for those experiencing urinary or fecal incontinence by Kimberly-Clark. They were the first such product, introduced in 1984.”
    All I got is wiki…
    Seriously, though. You are not debating rationally. All your language is highly emotional charged. Almost like a woman.
    You claim to be a genius, yet neglect basic psychology. If your conscious mind truly were capable of controlling your subconscious like that, then you’d be a Jedi. Wait, no… a Sith lord.

    Nothing wrong with being a Sith lord…

  8. Redpill
    December 11, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    Pulsotic :
    I’m man enough to admit when I’m wrong.
    I was wrong to agree with you earlier.
    Of the 82 word comment, 31 words were a bad joke, 5 were a really funny joke, 28 words were a valid point, and 18 (roughly 22%) were ad hominem. Argumentum ad hominem is not always fallacious. Considering how hateful his comments are, I think it’s quite valid to question his ability to think clearly.

    It’s funny how a lot of PUAs start to think like and have the same value system as women.

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