An Insight into the Female Worldview

The following are excerpts from an article in a British Newspaper-

Sperm donor websites: the baby delivery service

Hopefully, someone like Ferdinand Bardamu will satirize the contents of this article.

Women desperate to have children are turning to unregulated websites to find sperm donors. Now the sites stand accused of being unethical and a health risk. Olga Craig and Michael Howie report

OK..

The couple’s liaison lasted little more than five minutes and was conducted, in swift and furtive fashion, in a city car park late one Friday night. When their business, hurried and impersonal, was concluded, they shook hands awkwardly, wished each other a stilted “good evening” and left in separate cars, with no suggestion that they might ever meet again. If all runs smoothly, however, in nine months’ time, their baby – the result of that car park encounter – will be born. Their swift transaction was not, as one might assume, of a sexual nature. Instead, Peter Smith simply handed over a specimen flask containing his sperm to Clarissa, a 42-year-old IT consultant he had met on the internet. The insemination process, he says, was a matter for her alone. He had honoured his part of the pact: the future was solely Clarissa’s concern.

Hmm.. go on..

Like so many women who long to have children, she initially contacted a reputable and licensed fertility clinic where she underwent two cycles of treatment. But with each costing £1,500 and involving a lengthy wait (in some areas of the UK, as long as eight years), thanks to a nationwide shortage of donated sperm, she became one of the thousands of women who have resorted to unregulated fertility websites.

How did humans make babies before the age of ‘regulated’ sperm banks?

But while these women’s desires are commonplace, the consequences can be anything but. Yesterday, the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA) admitted it is launching an investigation into what it considers the abundance of “unethical” fertility websites. The body has become concerned that they could put the health of vulnerable women at risk, leave a generation of children facing future heartache, and have long-reaching legal implications for both mother and donor.

Really! ‘Unethical’ as in worse than getting knocked up from a fling, STR or a ‘bad boy’?

Its decision comes in the wake of the trial of Nigel Woodforth and Ricky Gage, who netted £250,000 for illegally acting as “bagmen” via an online fertility operation they ran from a basement. Convicted at Southwark Crown Court last week, they are awaiting sentencing – the first to be found guilty of procuring sperm without a licence from the HFEA, contravening legislation that came into effect two years ago. The legislation, which entitled children born as the result of licensed sperm donation to track down their natural fathers, has discouraged men from donating sperm, fearing they will become financially responsible for the resulting offspring.

They owe me a new keyboard.. ROTFLOL

Increasingly, those such as Co-ParentMatch.com and FeelingBroody.com are seen by women anxious to conceive as quicker and cheaper alternatives to the regulated route. Such is their popularity that one site alone receives more than two million hits each month. The thousands of members of such sites pay monthly subscription fees – although the donor isn’t paid as such, the sites may recommend a “courier fee” of as high as £150 – and most women agree to pay incidental costs such as hotels or travel.

I am not making this up!

The women who use the site are, in the main, professionals – many in high-powered jobs – who want to be mothers but do not want the baggage that goes with a long-term relationship. Their reasons are many and varied. Pam, single and 41, wrote in her profile: “Becoming aware of biological clock ticking away and, being single, felt I need to be quite proactive about seeing what other options were available.” Another, Pkare, single and 32, writes: “I want a child but haven’t found a man worthy enough to take the status of ‘father’, so it is down to me to take things into my own hands.”

I did not know that being in an LTR was necessary for getting knocked up, and what is this thing about a guy being worthy? Most guys do not see kids as “status” accessories.

One major concern over the sites is that, unlike in regulated clinics, such sites guarantee none of the health safeguards against sexually transmitted infections or HIV. There is no formal process to ensure that sperm donations are “clean”, leaving the women to rely solely upon the donor’s word, or medical certificates he produces. And all too often the men involved are seeking what the websites describe as “natural insemination” – shorthand for no-strings, unprotected sex.

I am shocked, shocked that men want to have no-strings unprotected sex. Won’t someone think of the children!

According to Dr Allan Pacey, from the University of Sheffield, the fact that most donors become involved for purely financial reasons means they have little incentive to ensure they have a clean bill of health. “A licensed clinic will run tests before taking samples, and again six months after the last sample was taken and frozen,” he explains. “And it is only after this final check that the sperm is used. These sites cut out that process, which means the women are at risk from blood-borne and sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV. [Donated sperm] may also carry genetic disorders such as Down’s syndrome.

How did this moron get a medical degree.. then again most people who become doctors ARE pompous morons.

The risks, he says, are even greater if the donor has a predatory intent. “If a man wants to impregnate women, insisting on natural insemination, that ups the likelihood that he will be in poor sexual health. It is blatant profiteering at the expense of women who are driven by a very natural and biological maternal urge.”

White knight/ mangina alert!

As Louisa Ghevaert, a partner with the specialist fertility law firm Gamble and Ghevaert, points out: “Peoples’ desire to have a child is incredibly strong and shouldn’t be underestimated. Women who run the gauntlet and conceive informally with a donor without understanding the legal issues risk misery not just for themselves but for the child, in the future. And there are risks for the donor, too. He may be treated as the legal father, with all the accompanying financial responsibilities. The mother risks unwanted involvement from the donor if he seeks to assert his status. “The child, in later life, may not be able to trace his or her biological father. Donor-conception law is very complicated and people can easily fall foul of legal pitfalls if they do not appreciate the difference between conceiving at licensed clinics and conceiving with privately donated sperm. The consequences for the unwitting can be devastating.”

Why does this attitude not surprise me?

On most sites, women can outline how much, if any, contact they want with a donor, and many draw up what they believe are binding contracts. But in law, the documents are worthless. Recently, Andy Bathie, a fireman from Woking, who fathered a child through an informal arrangement with a lesbian couple, was contacted by the Child Support Agency seeking maintenance. The child’s “parents” had separated and Mr Bathie was left with a bill for £425 a month

Ya…

It was already out there but very ad hoc.” Some men, she admitted, contacted the site seeing it solely as a way to have sex. “If men go on and say they will only offer natural insemination, I would stay clear of that and most do.” For many women, the sites have brought little but heartache. Clarissa – who had a profile on a sperm donor website and agreed to speak to the Sunday Telegraph on condition of anonymity – has, to date, contacted five donors but has not conceived with any of them. “I ignore the men who insist on natural insemination and those who want a relationship with the child,” she says. “I like to keep the whole thing business-like, frankly. I ask a lot of questions about their health but, admittedly, I have no way of checking if they are telling the truth. Then we make an arrangement to meet for the hand-over. It’s as simple as that. “But it hasn’t worked, and I’ve had terrible trouble with two of them who keep pestering me online. Frankly, I’m glad I didn’t conceive because they are clearly the type who thought this whole thing would lead to some sort of sexual relationship. All I wanted was a child of my own. Now I feel I’ve been used in a rather grubby sort of way.”

And this woman wants to have kids!

Others, such as Susan, a 44-year-old from Oxfordshire, have had more positive experiences. With one son already, Susan desperately wanted another, but did not want a new, long-term partner. “I wasn’t in a relationship, and didn’t want to get into one,” she explains. “I went on the site and got lots of responses. In fact, I was flooded with them. I started to chat to my donor, and that went on for six months before I decided to go ahead and start the process. I was very specific in what I was looking for, even though there would be no contact between the donor and child. I wanted a well-educated person with personality, intelligence, and a similar background to myself – university educated. He also had similar features to mine.” Susan and her donor developed a routine that worked for them. “As I didn’t want to come face-to-face with him, I prepared a room in my house for him. Then I would disappear into another part of the house and he would let himself in and go into the room. He would leave the sperm and, once he’d gone, I would inseminate myself. I was very relaxed about it. It wasn’t at all an uncomfortable experience. Rather, I would say the experience was tremendously positive. To this day we still haven’t met, although we do talk on the phone still. I regard him as a good friend.

I am at a loss for words!

“I worked with him and tried to become pregnant with his sperm for about a year, but the closest I ever got was a six-week pregnancy, which ended in miscarriage. I had given myself a time period, deciding that if I wasn’t pregnant within a year, I would stop. So I decided to call it a day. My only regret was that I didn’t decide to do it earlier.”

Maybe that was for the better of the kid who was not born!

  1. Nestorius
    September 27, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    So AD, how do you describe such people?

    Delusional people without any link to reality or logic.

  2. September 27, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    Amazing find. What planet do these women live on? It doesn’t shine a very flattering light on the regulated sperm industry, either. At least we can take solace in schadenfreude.

  3. almost 40 year old virgin
    September 27, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    Yeah, cougars who ran out of options are desperate. Not really that surprising any more.

    What interests me is all these “Drone-Bees” swarming around them!
    I can get the ones who demand “knock-up” fucks.
    But these ball-less wankers who willingly give up their sperm to these feminist monsters?

    Inconceivable!

  4. Hughman
    September 28, 2010 at 12:45 am

    “[Donated sperm] may also carry genetic disorders such as Down’s syndrome.”

    It’s called a Robertsonian Translocation. So no, he isn’t a moron.

    I know, but what is behind most cases of down’s syndrome- mothers age or fathers sperm?

    • Hughman
      September 29, 2010 at 5:14 am

      Mothers, about 95% of the time. But the masses don’t understand that (also, feminist dogma tries to obfuscate maternal age/health being far more important for health of the newborn than the father’s)

  5. RedPill
    September 28, 2010 at 2:12 am

    This is Roissy’s Four Sirens in action.

  6. Junior Gorilla
    September 28, 2010 at 10:40 am

    Yeah, why the hell would any man donate through the legal clinics when the law allows for the resulting kids to track him down later.

    In the US there’s apparently some awareness of the problem that the “best” sperm will be used again and again, and sperm banks could have adverse effects on the genetic pool when the alpha-sperm is used to inseminate > 100 women per man.

    Sperm banks are also backdoor, feminist approved eugenics. Women are allowed as many children and as much state support as they want, but men are mercilessly screened for height, wealth, genetic health, SAT scores…

  7. Ted
    September 28, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    I understand that women want to be selective when it comes to who will be the father of their child. It is amusing that many women take on the cost of thousands of dollars in fertility treatments, rather than “lower” their standards to have a child with a man in their vicinity. Then again, I suspect that most men, even of a lower socio-economic status are not eager to father children with such aging women. As the article notes, some of these sad men believe it is a way to have sex.

    But guess what? Contrary to the opinions of some, men are also selective in who they want to be the mother of their children. The reason men have a wandering eye is not because of he looks at an attractive woman – he is not thinking about babies, he is just thinking about sex. Just as women can distinguish between “cads and dads”, so men can distinguish between “sex material/mother material.”

  8. Niko
    September 28, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    “Sperm banks are also backdoor, feminist approved eugenics. Women are allowed as many children and as much state support as they want, but men are mercilessly screened for height, wealth, genetic health, SAT scores…”

    What else can be said.

  9. Loadmeister
    October 1, 2010 at 12:18 am

    Another, Pkare, single and 32, writes: “I want a child but haven’t found a man worthy enough to take the status of ‘father’, so it is down to me to take things into my own hands.”

    Translation: I’m an aging, banged out cum dumpster with baby rabies who can’t find a sucker stupid enough to be willing to knock me up and then slave away for 18 years playng (sugar) daddy.

  10. jackal
    September 24, 2011 at 10:17 am

    The Commission on Parenthood’s Future has released a new study titled “My Daddy’s Name Is Donor.” Compared with both adopted children and children raised by their biological parents, donor offspring are struggling—and they’re struggling in ways that should have been foreseen. The authors of the study write, “[O]n average, young adults conceived through sperm donation are hurting more, are more confused, and feel more isolated from their families. They fare worse than their peers raised by biological parents on important outcomes like depression, delinquency and substance abuse.”

  11. P Ray
    May 30, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    Someone is forgetting that these women are in their 30s.
    As the Shitty Advice forum on PUAHate has amply demonstrated in the past,
    even women with no limbs can easily get sex.
    Along with this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2292621/Louise-Martine-Fokkens-Twins-Amsterdams-oldest-prostitutes-retire-combined-100-years-sex-trade.html

    Men engaged in Natural Insemination better beware that THEY will not pick up an STD from regular women (who are obviously in much greater demand than either the limbless woman or elderly prostitute twins … that themselves have many eager dicks shooting for…)

  12. October 11, 2015 at 1:14 pm

    These are the same types of bitches society tells us are “victims” of bad boys, tricks and alpha males.

  13. P Ray
    April 12, 2016 at 10:29 am

    Speaking of women lusting for Chad Thundercock, if they can’t have him, they’ll have his sperm.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3536228/Healthy-working-PhD-renowned-drummer-perfect-sperm-donor-used-British-families-lied-schizophrenia-criminal-history.html
    ‘Healthy, working on a PhD and a renowned drummer’: How ‘perfect’ US sperm donor used by British families lied about his schizophrenia and criminal history
    Chris Aggeles, a now 39-year-old man from Georgia, advertised on sperm-bank site Xytex that he was healthy and well-educated
    Families who used his sperm later found out he was a college drop out, had a history of mental illness and criminal activity
    In addition to schizophrenia, court documents also show that he was diagnosed with bipolar and narcissistic personality disorders
    Aggeles’ sperm was used to create 19 boys and 17 girls from 26 families on both sides of the Atlantic
    The Georgia-based man sold his sperm to Xytex between 2000 and 2014, and some was stored to be made available after 2014
    A Canadian couple who used his sperm intends to file a lawsuit against Xytex from Toronto
    Nancy Hersh, who is representing families involved, intends to file lawsuits in the US on behalf of affected American and British families
    By JAKE POLDEN FOR MAILONLINE and KELLY MCLAUGHLIN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
    PUBLISHED: 16:13 GMT, 12 April 2016 | UPDATED: 17:45 GMT, 12 April 2016

    Just LOL, when the guy is over 6 feet, women’s brains stop working.
    Women only have standards … FOR THE GUYS THEY’RE NOT ATTRACTED TO!
    Woe to the stupid idiot who wants to take over that burden by pairing up with single mom.

    Hope he doesn’t get killed by the kids that aren’t his … and hope she doesn’t develop mental issues from the promiscuous man’s seed 🙂

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