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The Concept of Victimless Crime is Absurd

Many of you are aware of the concept of “victimless crimes”, but is such a thing possible?

Crime is:

A breach of rules or laws for which some governing authority (via mechanisms such as legal systems) can ultimately prescribe a conviction.

But why does criminal law exist?

Criminal law, or penal law, is the body of rules that defines conduct that is prohibited by the state because it is held to threaten, harm or otherwise endanger the safety and welfare of the public, and that sets out the punishment to be imposed on those who breach these laws.

The existence of a criminal law requires the possibility that someone is, or can be, a victim of any proscribed act. Of course, there are various legal ways to create victims.

If we abandon legal sophistry for a minute, it is obvious that situations where harm is not obviously measurable, and everyone involved can comprehend the basic risks of the situation/ transaction is not a crime- as understood by most human beings. Criminalizing something without obvious innocent victims is linked to the need of some humans to control others. Indeed, such laws have deleterious effects on social welfare.

What percentage of the law enforcement budget is spent on enforcing laws based on a need for social control, rather than any legitimate need. Did I mention that the legal-prison system is getting really large and expensive to run, especially since it is not a productive use of resources by any reasonable standards?


  1. February 9, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Smoking Marijuana: illegal
    Giving loans with usurious interest rates: legal & encouraged
    (Bonus Round: Which of the above is forbidden according to the Old Testament?)

    • The Plague Doctor
      February 10, 2011 at 8:04 am

      By what magical formula did you determine which interest rates are usurious and whuch are not?

  2. JulianusII
    February 9, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    Usury of course Xamuel. Thing is few churches even mention it now. As for marijuana the Bible does say God gave us herbs for healing; make of that what you will.
    I agree about the penal / legal system, sadly in many places it’s the ONLY employer (Surry County,Va and Woodville,TX are two I’m familiar with.). That combined with the fact Connedservatives and Blightwingers are so enamored of it means it with only get bigger.Plus there are all the Judges,Police,Lawyers etc so the whole thing is a huge circle jerk.

  1. February 13, 2011 at 3:12 am
  2. February 14, 2011 at 6:15 pm

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