Discuss: Do Universities Owe Their Students A Decent Job Placement?

We often hear about the rising cost and growing uselessness of university education- at ALL levels. Sadly many people are effectively forced to attend universities because of the nature of pro-university education propaganda and its enablers, combined with the lack of decent stable job options amongst those in their 20s and 30s.

So here is my question-

Given that society and universities are effectively selling you a product (degree, certification or “education”) that is NOT free, or in many cases not even subsidized- are they then not obliged to be responsible for the product to function as implicitly advertised?

Legalism, shaming, sophism are the crutches of a corrupt and extermination-worthy elite. The reality is that they are almost forcing/ conning you into buying a product which does not work as advertised.

Would you not seek compensation for a new car that was a lemon? What about a house that was built of demonstrably substandard materials? What about a drug that kills more people than it purportedly benefits? What about obvious medical malpractice?

Why is education, as it is currently offered, any different?

Comments?

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  1. March 5, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    Treat it like insurance where the price reflects what you actually get. Degrees with lower job placement should cost less (base it on some standard, like actual number of grads hired with that degree over the last five or so years).

  2. the dude
    March 5, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    seems enough sheep follow this path, can you blame the corrupt well-positioned ones taking what is given to them for free

  3. TJ Hooker
    March 6, 2011 at 7:34 am

    Life’s not fair, you go to university for a professional degree, and being a professional you have to manage your own career. That said, I do think we should make student loans defaultable in bankruptcy. That is the easiest way to restrict funding for higher education and bring costs down.
    —-

    I have written about this before.

    https://dissention.wordpress.com/2010/09/06/unfairness-has-its-consequences/

  4. March 8, 2011 at 6:17 am

    One element of this deception, which you’ve covered in the past, is that the product they’re selling (education and the promise of a resulting better life) comes with the stipulation that once the purchaser obtains the product he/she must then use it effectively. Blame the archer, not the arrow. The designed deception is to fall back upon user error when the product fails to perform.

    As you’ve stated in prior posts, the lie inherent in the ‘personal responsibility’ meme is the presumption of an even starting point. Marketing being what it is, the university to varying degrees is delivering on their promise to educate – however, it is the end-user’s responsibility to sort out what he thinks will best suit his goal both prior to his education and after it. The deception is his presumption of a level playing field from which to “pull himself up by his bootstraps”.

  5. DoesNotMatter
    March 18, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    Nobody owes anyone anything. You want something, you go out and get it. If the students had any sense, they would get into a legal agreement with the university to have them placed or their money back. Education today is just a scam

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