The Difference Between Socialism and Fascism

It seems that many people, especially Americans, cannot tell the difference between Socialism and Fascism.

Read some of the comments in one of FBs recent posts: This is What is Wrong with America by individuals such as ‘The Fifth Horseman’, Cpt. Capitalism, J. H. Bowden, Sparks123, Nutz and other assorted morons. The gist of their argument is that governments are often captured by special interests and pre-existing money, hence small government is good and socialism = big government.

Let us, for a minute, ignore the fact that NO developed country has small government- unlike many dysfunctional and anarchic places. Concentrate on the assumption of socialism = big government = captured by pre-existing money.

Now, I will agree that socialism is almost always equivalent to big government and some forms of big governments do indeed work for the established rich. However we have another name for big governments which are captured by the rich… ever heard of fascism?

The CONservative concept of socialism is in reality- fascism aka socialism for the rich and capitalism for everyone else. In case you still have not figured it- the USA went down the path of fascism in the late 1970s-early 1980s.

Don’t believe me? Consider the following-

1. Powerful and continuing nationalism (USA! USA!)

2. Disdain for the recognition of human rights/usurping human rights (kill those muslims, atheists, liberals)

3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as unifying causes for the population. (It is those blacks, mexicans, jews etc)

4. Supremacy of the military, police or mercenary groups. (“law and order”, paramilitary-style police, blackwater)

5. Controlled mass-media (need I say more?)

6. Obsession with national security (terrorists!!)

7. Religion and government are intertwined (CONservative religiosity)

8. Corporate power is protected (that would be a series of articles in itself)
9. the government is male dominated (sexism)

10. Labor power and unions are suppressed (you are talking class warfare..)

11. Disdain for the intellectuals (we know that jebus’s dad made the earth in 6K BC)

12. Obsession with crimes and punishment (need I say more?)

13. Rampant cronyism and corruption (most political leaders, businessmen are related/linked to each other)

14. Fraudulent elections (democrat or republican?)

So you see- what CONservatives mistake for “socialism” in the USA is actually fascism. Socialism is what exists in western Europe and East Asia, not the USA. Get it?

Comments?

  1. blakey
    March 15, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    agreed on all points. ive been reading Inmalafide and your blog for a few months now and i have enjoyed both of them. But ever since FB opened up his blog to guest posters it has become almost unreadable.

  2. Simon Rierdon
    March 16, 2011 at 2:19 am

    I agree with your premise but this country has been going down the road to fascism ever since John Quincey Adams’s presidency. The disdain for the word fascism is a not-so-veiled attempt to fool the sheeple once again. The worst thing is, these morons think that they are free when they are ever more quickly being bled dry by these corporatocratic parasites.

  3. The Plague Doctor
    March 16, 2011 at 4:24 am

    Who cares if you get bitten by the cat or by the dog?

  4. Hughman
    March 16, 2011 at 4:59 am

    Hawaiian Libertarian did a post on why America is fascist a while back

    I am aware of that, as are many others.

    My somewhat novel point is that the american concept of socialism is, in reality, fascism.

  5. w
    March 16, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    thank you AD.

  6. DoesNotMatter
    March 18, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    Who cares about semantics? They’re both pretty bad

  7. Meme
    March 22, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Speaking of corporate-media-fascism, I’d like to see you do a review of this 4 hour BBC documentary, “Century of the Self”:

  8. AlekNovy
    March 24, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Well, I’ve heard a lot of conservatives and libertarians make the same point/distinction, so you’re not the first… The fact that some people think socialism=fascism is not the worrying part…

    The worrying part is that the road the socialism is 95% the same as the road to fascism… Its only at the end that they diverge… They’re like brothers… So, arguing about distinguishing them better is not as useful as avoiding them both.

  9. AlekNovy
    March 24, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as unifying causes for the population. (It is those blacks, mexicans, jews etc)
    5. Controlled mass-media (need I say more?)
    12. Obsession with crimes and punishment (need I say more?)
    13. Rampant cronyism and corruption (most political leaders, businessmen are related/linked to each other)
    14. Fraudulent elections (democrat or republican?)

    = this is common to both socialism AND fascism

    I grew up in a socialist country, we actually carried around socialist flags in school when I was in elementary school… We were taught that those damn foreigners/capitalists/old-school-people/non-socialists were to blame for everything and that was a way to unite the population. We were thought that the reason things aren’t working is because THOSE people are to blame.

    I was a kid from a non-socialist family (my grandfather, a janitor was actually put in a reform camp for opposing socialism)… and as a kid from a non-socialist family I was bullied, harassed and made fun of in the school I went to… All the kids in that school were basically a part of the socialist elite and relative of each other.

    Everyone in our government during socialism was a relative of everyone else. Basically the entire country was run by a few families… as was the media. Even though there was supposed to be no amassing of wealth, certain people close to the party were allowed to own entire cities (literally), whereas private property was seized from non-socialists (for the common good, you know).

    Now, you might say “oh oh, but that’s not TRUE socialism”, and well by that logic that’s not “true fascism” either lol. Its not like fascists openly say “we’ll have a few families run everything, run the media, have unfair elections and declare certain groups the enemy” 😀 – its just that those systems always lead to that in practice.

    So yeah, those things I listed are COMMON to both fascism and socialism, and not restricted to fascism like you’d want to believe. I saw them with my own eyes, and my grandfather paid for them with jail-time.

  10. AlekNovy
    March 24, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    “Socialism is what exists in western Europe”

    Not really… There has never been socialism in western europe… that’s just “social democracy”… Western europe is equivalent to an american leftie. Is the average democrat in the USA “socialist”? I don’t think so.

    Well the average western european is like the average democrat in the usa… Far from socialist. Notice, I said “average democrat” not “super-left democrat”.

    I’ve actually lived in socialism, it was actually tried in eastern europe. Heck, has it been tried anywhere else except eastern europe?

  11. Hwo
    April 9, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    Bear in mind that the big-government/developed nation causality may not run in the obvious direction. It could be that nations only develop economically when they have large, active governments, but there seem to be significant historical counterexamples, such as 19 century America and renaissance Italy. Perhaps it is the case that wealthy, economically developed nations are an especially hospitable environment for big governments, which otherwise tend only to arise over exceptionally large geographic areas filled with poor people who have a significant amount of wealth in aggregate (ie the USSR or China).

  12. Dan
    May 19, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Good article, and pretty accurate. But a lot of the responses are not accurate. Someone said that socialism and fascism is 95% leading down the same road, and this is fundamentally incorrect. Socialism, by its very nature, is a left-wing ideology, whereas fascism is on the far right, so to say they travel down even a parallel road, let alone the same road, is completely wrong. Also, someone else said a social democracy is not the same thing as socialism, this is also incorrect, technically. They ARE the same thing, though of course you can have varying degrees of it. A social democrat in Western Europe does indeed have VERY different values and a view of the world and civil society compared to the so-called “average” democrat in America, because the two nations themselves have different cultural values. You could say the average American democrat is almost centrist, while those in a social democratic nation like in Sweden are much closer to a Marxist perspective. Gotta love being a political science major 🙂

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