Reasons Behind The West’s Involvement in Libya

As I have briefly mentioned in a previous post, there are a host of less-than-altruistic reasons which have forced the west to intervene in Libya. Let us list them..

1. The refugee situation

Many commentators, both MSM and blogs, ignore or marginalize what I consider to be one of the most important reason for the intervention. Neither Egypt or Tunisia, both neighboring pro-western countries, want hundreds of thousands of refugees crossing their border or dying near it. In this day and age- pictures and video clips of such incidents are as destabilizing as the events themselves.

Countries and territories within boating distance of Libya (Italy, France, Spain, Greece, Malta, Cyprus, Turkey) are also at risk of massive waves of refugees if Gaddafi is allowed to get away with genocide in Libya. The long-term effects and costs of such population displacement can, by themselves, justify any intervention.

2. Oil

While Libya is not a big oil producer like KSA or Russia, it is an important provider of crude for countries like Italy and France. Extended periods of unrest in Libya will cause significant and lasting supply disruptions to those countries.

At this stage, the options are-

a. Stick with Gaddafi and hope that he can keep on suppressing the rebels and keep things functioning.

b. Accept that Gaddafi can no longer maintain order or keep things functioning properly, even if he regains all the cities he has lost.

They have chosen option b.

3. An improvement over Gaddafi

It is no secret that the west prefers to deal with ME leaders who are friendly and accommodating of their interests. Ex- and current leaders such as Mubarak, Ben Ali, the Saudis, King Hussein were/are predictable and accommodating of western interests. Gaddafi, on the other hand, is not liked by the west AND his own people. Even other dictators/kings in the ME hate Gaddafi. To put it another way, almost everyone wants him gone. Given that most people in Libya detest him, any significant weakening of his regular military power (over more than a few weeks) would almost guarantee an insider assassination or mass-desertion.

Comments?

  1. March 21, 2011 at 7:53 am

    That sums it.

  2. PT Barnum
    March 21, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    So, do you think slowly killing his security forces over a prolonged period of time is going to demoralize them or piss them off?

    His armed forces are mercenaries, just like others in the ME. They will desert him when things get tough..

    “Shock and Awe” has failed. So now the jackasses who started this are left with two choices. Fold, or send in ground forces. Probably from Egypt, but that may not be possible.

    Do you understand this? They are now at the stage of needing to deploy ground forces. That’s why the panicked whining. The bombing was either going to scare the security forces into removing Ghaddafi themselves… unlikely but certainly possible… OF FAIL.

    They want to destroy his big item weapons, while simultaneously giving weapons to the people who hate him.

    It has FAILED. We are now at the next level.

    • March 24, 2011 at 12:26 pm

      PT Barnum :
      It has FAILED. We are now at the next level.

      It’s been four days, and you’re declaring it must have failed already? What military action succeeds in four days?

      PT Barnum :
      Do you understand this? They are now at the stage of needing to deploy ground forces. That’s why the panicked whining. The bombing was either going to scare the security forces into removing Ghaddafi themselves… unlikely but certainly possible… OF FAIL.

      The bombing campaign against Milosevic succeeded … after lasting for months. There’s no reason to declare this tactic failed because it hasn’t delivered Khadaffi’s head within four days.

  3. MeMyselfI
    March 21, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    Obama Todo List
    1. Stretch western military forces amap.
    2. Unit the arab world against the west.
    3. Sit back and watch.

    All in a good day’s work…

    • March 22, 2011 at 1:08 am

      “Unit the arab world against the west.”

      The “Arab world” is a Western creation, a secular version of the Islamic world.

      • MeMyselfI
        March 22, 2011 at 5:23 am

        Good point Islam Arab.

        Islam would be the better term, here.

      • March 22, 2011 at 5:28 am

        Anyway, the Arab world and Arab nationalism are on the verge of death.

  4. PT Barnum
    March 21, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    His armed forces are mercenaries, just like others in the ME. They will desert him when things get tough..

    First, they aren’t mercenaries. Mouthing off about how the enemy is doing what you are doing is a common tactic used to deceive the feeble minded.

    The “rebels” are the paid mercenaries. Of the Western Powers you claim to dislike.

    Libya has two primary “power” cities. One is the capital of Libya. The other is the current home-base of the rebels. Tripoli and Banghazi.

    It was the easiest path to start the rebellion with the angry “second city”. This tactic has worked in the past.

    Now, do you think those currently in power in Tripoli have any intention OF EVER relinquishing power to Banghazi? I’m not talking about Ghaddafi. I’m talking about the rich people, the political people, the other factions.

    They most certainly won’t.

    Sure, ground forces will probably work, unless they don’t. Maybe America will offer some extremely sweet-heart deal to the current powers of Tripoli to knife Ghaddafi.

    These are all possible, and may work. Unless they don’t.

    This situation has already reached almost to ground invasion and all I hear is panicked whining about how “they aren’t responsible” from all sides.

    • March 22, 2011 at 1:09 am

      From what I know about the situation, Qaddhafi is history.

      • PT Barnum
        March 22, 2011 at 5:54 am

        America has reached Russian/British levels of corruption. I think you wildly underestimate just how easy troops like that can be crushed.

        Russia failed to totally defeat Finland, a country 1/10 it’s size one-on-one. Even though they were adjacent to each other. SHARING BORDERS.

        Libya is not, moron, adjacent to America.

        Sure, America can win. The costs, however, are rising by the minute. For a nearly bankrupt country.

      • March 22, 2011 at 7:01 am

        It’s not about America winning or not. It’s not even about America.

        What the Americans and others are doing is facilitate the fall of Qaddhafi.

  5. PT Barnum
    March 22, 2011 at 8:08 am

    It’s not about America winning or not. It’s not even about America.

    What the Americans and others are doing is facilitate the fall of Qaddhafi.

    If I were Ghaddafi, then I would love to here a little whore like you talk like that. It hurts to retract the bared fangs, doesn’t it? It burns to have to hold back the gloating and bloody hatred. I know, I know.

    But the situation, isn’t, well FAIR enough for you to be a blood-crazed screaming jackal, is it?

    Now is the time to babble about blamelessness. Now is the time to avoid Responsibility.

  6. March 22, 2011 at 9:08 am

    The fact that you still don’t get it, makes me laugh.

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