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Discuss: Why Do Indians, Or Anybody Else, Have Cultural Pride?

Growing up, one question always bothered me-

Why do Indians exhibit any pride in their culture?

What is there to be proud about? It kills and maims its believers through vegetarianism, apathy, pettiness, inferiority complexes and generally encourages its own to treat each other with less decency than exhibited towards animals.

But here is the twist in this post..

Virtually all cultures have similar characteristics in that they take pride in and justify incompetence, stupidity, greed, taboos, lack of basic human decency and a host of other objectively undesirable behaviors/ attitudes.

Ancient Greek cultures justified all manner of barbarity and stupidity under the veneer of ‘civilization’. Ancient Chinese culture justified totalitarianism, legalism and had a rather dismal attitude towards the value of human life. Ancient Roman culture was about slavery, genocide, murder, rape, lying etc.

Medieval and modern cultures are no different. While I can write detailed accounts of the venality, stupidity and damage caused by each culture- I will cut to the point.

Every single instance of culture in human history has been marked by a lowering or elimination of standards in all areas of civil society.

Culture is the antithesis of progress, humanity, innovation and everything positive about human beings. Any improvement in the human condition therefore necessitates the destruction of all versions of culture and its ardent followers.

Let me illustrate this point with a contemporary example- American Culture.

We are concerned about swear words and public nudity, but encourage depictions of people being killed or maimed. We talk about law and order, when it is obvious that both those systems are broken and corrupted beyond repair. We talk about justice and fairness while simultaneously imprisoning more people than any other nation on earth, both by numbers and percentage. We all repeat ‘Horatio Alger‘ type stories, while trying to make the system as unfair as possible.

We talk about honor, duty and commitment only to turn around and screw the suckers who believed in it. We support one of the two parties- both of whom work for the same group against us. We have supposedly objective and knowledgeable experts who are neither. Once again, I can go on- but you get my point.

Belief in culture, rather than the type you believe in, is the problem.

So stop seeing any culture as beneficial or worth striving for, because it is almost certain that you won’t benefit from it. Do things because they are rational, make you happy or are in your best interests.


  1. April 14, 2011 at 2:31 am

    People believe ‘culture’, ‘civilization’, ‘progress’ and other similar notions must be preserved, because it gives them a false sense of immortality.

  2. April 14, 2011 at 6:42 am

    You are half-East-Indian, aren’t you, Diablo?

  3. anon666
    April 14, 2011 at 8:21 am

    You can’t have a functional collective unit of people without culture. All “culture” is a set of shared behavioral standards and common practices. That said, I don’t believe in preserving culture as an end in itself. Culture is utilitarian and it should be abandoned or modified when it doesn’t serve human needs as well as it could.

  4. ExtraStout
    April 14, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Advocatus, are you Indian yourself?

  5. April 14, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    I think that it’s implicit in his posts and extensive experience with Indian people that AD is Indian. Just my $0.02

  6. Matt
    April 14, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    I think Dali get’s it. As if it matters.

  7. September 12, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    Well written, short and to the point. Patriotism is a motherfucker.

  1. April 17, 2011 at 1:11 am

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