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Why East Asians Are Disliked As Bosses, Colleagues and Businessmen

Have you noticed that east-asians are universally disliked as bosses, colleagues and businessmen? Ever wondered why?

The short answer is-

They are too greedy for their own good.

The long answer is a bit more complicated. So let me explain my theory about the reasons behind, and consequences of, this phenomena.

I believe that the uniquely dislikable profile of east-asians comes from a combination of characteristics, rather than one single behavior. They are feminine (greedy and short-sighted), aspergy (poor ability to empathize or innovate) and too inward looking as a group.

Each dysfunction feeds into another. Their greed and short-sightedness in combination with inward looking behavior make them dislikable and identifiable to an extent other groups have avoided. Compare them to Jews- for every stereotypical Jew you can always find another who is anything but that. For every covetous bankster type, you can find a scientist, doctor, artist, entrepreneur or free-thinking intellectual. In contrast, it is hard to find an atypical east-asian. Greed, short-sightedness and inward looking behavior in a group is far more obvious when there are few or non-existent counter examples.

A combination of greed, short-sightedness and aspergy behavior also creates other problems. How many of you want to interact with a greedy nerd who is trying to scam you- all the time. Sure greedy nerds can be very hard working- but do you want to work for them? with them? or do business with them?

East-asians are also strong believers/practitioners of a zero-sum world view and their aspergy behavior makes them unsympathetic to an extent that no other people. “chosen” or otherwise, have yet attained. It is also unfortunate that the second generation of asians in other countries are far more like their parents than other groups.

Aspergy and inward looking behavior also combine to produce the dysfunction of uninnovativeness. People who walk the same mental paths every day are not good at finding newer paths, even if they are experts at commuting down their traditional paths.

In summary, East-Asians will not be seen as anything other than greedy, uninnovative, deceptive, unfriendly and undesirable people tolerated merely for their ability as white-collar slaves.. UNLESS they stop being East-Asian. They certainly do not lack the intrinsic abilities to be everything they are currently not. Their real enemies are their own choice patterns, culture and egos.

The above also applies to Indians, though to a lesser extent- especially in the 2nd and 3rd generation.


  1. May 3, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    I’m only “aspergy”. At least the younger generation of East Asians in college campuses today are more social and “well-rounded” (non-STEM. Asians are vastly under-represented in the math department of my college).

    “greedy, innovative, deceptive, unfriendly and undesirable”

    Did you mean non-innovative? Might want to proofread there.

    Thanks. Was editing it on the iPhone.

  2. Columnist
    May 3, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    Aspergery, yes.

  3. May 4, 2011 at 4:40 am

    Does it have to do with how they look?

    Uzbeks, Kazaks, Kirkizs, Uygurs, Tatars, Turkmens and Mongols have the same looks but seem to be very different.

  4. DoesNotMatter
    May 4, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    You liar

  5. May 4, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Clearly, each society has a characteristic set of traits that promoted survival.
    Humans are not unlike domesticated animals that come in many starkly different breeds.

    Areas that have been densely populated for thousands of years have encouraged hyper-specialization, a collectivist mindset, and a penchant for relentless zero sum competition.
    A tradition of such pressures on individuals leaves little room for innovation.
    Experimentation means a long series of failures that no one in such a society can afford.

    America is coming under many of the same sort of pressures that led to India or China. The clever rule followers, the learners by rote, the zero sum gamers, the collectivists are ascendant.

    Ants are not humans and humans are not ants, regardless of what Confucius says.

  6. JHB
    May 4, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    One thing I noticed about my Indian friends in college — they were all, without exception, obsessed with status. It isn’t as if all the Indians I knew tried to make others around them miserable — quite the opposite, for most of them, believe it or not, are really chill, friendly people. But their obsessive efforts to obtain and retain status at any cost doesn’t leave much room for anything else, especially after they enter the workplace.

    This can be partly explained in terms of cultural inertia — I suspect it is an atavism of the caste system. And, of course, there is real poverty in India — the poor in India are not Amerifats — which is an added reminder of what failure can mean.

    But I also know a few Americanized, hipster stoner Indians, so this isn’t universal. But it takes at least a generation, if not two, for the old ways to die off.

    • Indo Pride
      May 11, 2011 at 9:13 pm

      “But I also know a few Americanized, hipster stoner Indians, so this isn’t universal. But it takes at least a generation, if not two, for the old ways to die off.”

      So the old ways should die off so more Indians can become hipster-stoners?

  7. Ted
    May 5, 2011 at 6:34 am

    “But I also know a few Americanized, hipster stoner Indians”

    Hipsters of any ethnic background should be exiled. It’s especially sad for the older bunch of hipsters, to which Lenny Bruce described, “There is nothing sadder than an aging hipster.”

  8. monica
    May 23, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    That’s why the chinese are called the jews of the orient. They are not to be trusted, just like their namesakes.

  9. Secret
    April 28, 2012 at 9:57 am

    Is this answer constructive? No. How biased. You don’t know all the east-asians in the world or even a vast majority. I am not east asian, I’m south but this answer isn’t very helpful.

  10. TheQueen
    July 8, 2013 at 8:48 am

    This is absolute rubbish. Greed? Deceptive? Unfriendly? Oh yeah, and you must be from somewhere from paradise. Get real, look at yourself and take a better look at your own history and even present. It ain’t perfect and neither are you. Disgusting.

  11. June 20, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    I totally agree with you. You are amazing, you are the first person to find a logical and legit reason why so many eastern fucktards are fucktards!

    Same as yours, but stronger:

    Just being honest with all the same, I haven’t found a SINGLE eastasian who isn’t of the characteristics you described above
    Worse then slenderman!

    No offense please

    This blog is here to let you comment on your feelings and opinions, it’s free speech, not simple racism.

    • P Ray
      November 3, 2014 at 8:40 pm

      Well, Asian guys have to have money … because women are attracted to it, and only grant the guy a pass if he’s white.
      Sad but true.

      • JS
        November 4, 2014 at 1:48 pm

        Asian guys are overall the least physically attractive race of men. Not that Asian women are more aesthetically pleasing, because bottom of the barrel White guys like Asian women or vice versa.

      • P Ray
        November 4, 2014 at 7:15 pm

        ^ Every relationship is a transaction, having more of what the other person wants or needs, keeps the relationship going.
        So does having other people interested in what you have.

      • JS
        November 5, 2014 at 8:30 am

        East Asian men are considered unattractive universally. If a woman is attracted only to your wallet, what does that tell you?

      • P Ray
        November 5, 2014 at 5:04 pm

        East Asian men are considered unattractive universally. If a woman is attracted only to your wallet, what does that tell you?
        Women are only attracted to the wallets of 90% of MEN OF ALL RACES.
        That is why so many of them talk about “take it slow”(regarding the relationship) and “nice men don’t ask women about their past” and “I don’t like to kiss and grope in public”.

      • JS
        November 6, 2014 at 8:11 am

        Studies have shown that non-Asian women do not find Asian men attractive. Black men have gotten more positive attention from White women than Asian men regardless of WALLET SIZE.

      • P Ray
        November 6, 2014 at 9:36 am

        ^ When women want something from men, they are willing to change their preferences.
        You’d be surprised how many women say a man is interesting to secure a free meal, provided he is a stranger to her social circle (can’t have a reputation of freeloading)…

      • P Ray
        November 6, 2014 at 1:55 pm


        For several months, Shelley spent time on the streets or in hostels, resorting to drastic measures to get by including conning men out of money by pretending to be interested in them.

  12. June 20, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    I may be biased, but I DO have decency in my opinion; they may be exaggerated, but for the majority of asians, it’s true (slenderman face might only be my phobia)

  13. JS
    November 3, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    One thing that a few people have pointed out, but are not addressed in most blogs is that Asians seems to have petty interests learning towards unwavering materialism in comparison to Westerners. Westerners are no doubt status-conscious just like East Asians, but their motive is more of that of leadership and humanitarian motives, where as East Asians are voraciously greedy for material sake. Another thing not brought up is that Asians are infantile when it comes to intellectualism or the lack of it. The West have proven time and time again, that East Asia is culturally and intellectually barren, despite their strong economic and material gains over the last century.

    • P Ray
      November 3, 2014 at 8:27 pm

      Because of “white privilege”, many Westerners in Asia can be treated with “status” when the only qualification they have is “white skin”.
      Sadly, that doesn’t extend to giving them houses and land for free…

  14. JS
    November 3, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    East Asia has yet to produce any philosophical and literary tradition resembling that of India, and most certainly, East Asia lag far behind in cultural and scientific output when you compared them to the Ancient Greeks, Medieval Muslims and Western Europeans.

    • P Ray
      November 3, 2014 at 8:37 pm

      It certainly produces its own share of Arts graduates, so there is a philosophical and literary tradition … besides which, literacy is higher than in the West though.
      Pity the women are flat-chested and materialistic though.
      On the flip side, they are sought after in the West as spinners and LBFM’s (Little Brown F*cking Machines).

      • P Ray
        November 6, 2014 at 9:39 am

        I like this bit though (for all the men who say, foreign women in Asia, and being a white guy in Asia, allows me to laugh at Asian men):

        The police case is that Ellis’s Indonesian wife, Julaikah Noor Aini, ordered a group of thugs to kill her husband because he was making efforts to put tens of millions of dollars of assets into his own name.

        Foreigners in Indonesia are precluded from owing property, so all the assets were in the name of his wife, who is known as Ms Noor.

        LOL …

      • P Ray
        February 2, 2015 at 10:47 am

        The police case then makes no sense, if “putting property in the name of a foreigner is illegal” – it would simply have been detected later and the property confiscated OR not approved in the first place.
        I believe Julaikah had at least 2 reasons:
        1. He was reducing her spending money,
        2. She was getting old and he was getting his knob polished elsewhere. For an Asian woman who manages to grab a White guy, this can be a gateway to madness. She must have thought to herself, wasn’t previously being an LBFM good enough?

      • P Ray
        February 4, 2015 at 8:13 am

        Yusss, I was right.
        (According to her) She wasn’t getting her allowance, he was getting his knob polished elsewhere … and was probably planning to bribe somebody to get the land authenticated under his name

        White guys think they are getting a deal with Asian women,
        because of the rise of feminism such that a huge number of Asian women think “only white is right for me” …
        they behave just like bridezillas and WILL be out for blood if she figures the guy is planning to “ditch the bitch”.

      • P Ray
        February 4, 2015 at 2:27 pm

        Another lovely lotus blossom:

        Payback time! Husband is forced to beg forgiveness by his wife when she finds out he hasn’t been giving her his ENTIRE pay packet
        Spouse shamed partner for keeping a portion of paycheck
        The man was stripped to his waist in Hangzhou, eastern China
        He wore a sign around his neck confessing to the ‘crime’
        Crowd gather as he shouts ‘I did wrong’ to bemused passers-by

        By Kate Pickles For Mailonline

        Published: 17:04 GMT, 4 February 2015 | Updated: 17:54 GMT, 4 February 2015

        Ya, come to Asia where men are allowed to be men LOL

  15. JS
    November 3, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    East Asians are generally unfriendly and lack a hospitality culture due to their strong agrarian traditions. East Asia is the most agricultural centric region in the world which has made East Asians less friendly than other groups, with their “don’t bother me, leave me alone” mentality. In nomadic societies, people generally had to learn to be nice and hospitable to their neighbors due to the lack of resources.

    • P Ray
      November 3, 2014 at 8:27 pm

      It’s funny how many Westerners like visiting East Asia to have their fill of “Asian spinners”.

  16. JJ
    April 30, 2015 at 10:02 am

    I have worked for 3 Asian-owned companies, and interviewed with a few of them as well. I would NEVER work for any Asian-owned company again, specially owned by Chinese. They are unprofessional, speak Mandarin or Cantonese only in front of a non-speaker which I find so disrespectful. They also like to hire relatives and friends who know nothing about the products they sell, and do not know how to to the job! They are micro managers, and insist that you work very long hours, including weekends. One of my old bosses called me on Christmas Eve to compile and send a report to China office. I was actually taken to the doctor that day because I had frozen shoulders and in so much pain. But he did not care. He insist to do the report and send it out! I can tell many more stories, but won’t waste anybody’s time.

    • April 30, 2015 at 3:21 pm

      I notice how they speak their native tongues purposely in front of “others”. Arabs do the same, but I cannot stand them at all!

    • P Ray
      May 1, 2015 at 10:19 pm

      That’s very disrespectful behaviour – especially when there is 0 translation of what they speak about after their interaction is over and they’re reverting to speaking in English to you.
      I’m Asian AND I hate that practice that I observe being done!

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