Why Indians Cannot Work Together As A Functional Group

Ever wonder why the last 10 odd centuries of Indian history are so full of misery? To be fair, in most parts of the India- only the 1400-1600s plus part of the 1800s really sucked.. but still.

I am referring to foreign rule and exploitation- first by Muslims and then by the British. Some of the reasons underlying this problem have been discussed in previous posts (Why I Don’t Hang Around Indians: 1, Why Are Indians Over Represented In the Self-Hating Fellator Category?).

In my opinion, the overall reason is-

Indians Cannot Work Together As A Functional Group.

But why would that be so? What prevents them for working in a cohesive, purposeful and united manner? Some of you might immediately point the finger at ‘caste’- however any serious reading of Indian history would quickly show that infighting amongst the same sub-caste (jati) was, by far, the biggest problem.

So why did a social system meant to reduce intra-group conflict end up causing and worsening it?

In a previous post, I had remarked that the behavior of Indian men is too feminine (passive-aggressive, veneration of authority, petty, amoral) and zero-sum to encourage or create enough social cohesiveness. There is another aspect of this behavior pattern that is worth mentioning.

Indians take great happiness, and put great effort into, screwing over their own relatives and “friends”.

Yes, you heard that right! Nothing causes more pain and suffering to an Indian than seeing his relatives or friends succeed or even have a decent life. This has little to do with jealousy, schadenfreude or envy. It is based in the peculiar need to fuck over others even if it is not profitable.

A fundamental component of the Indian psyche is the need to hurt, abuse and betray their own relatives and friends.

Not all Indians are like that, but most are. While this bizzare need might take various forms and be done under various excuses- the basic drive is the same. My explanation for this behavior is based on the assumption that Indian men are highly feminized and therefore likely to think/act like women rather than men.

Women tend to be amoral, greedy, sociopathic, hysteric, fake friendly, passive-aggresive, backstabbing, zero-sum, excessively ritualistic, vegetarian creatures who take great interest in ruining the lives of their girlfriends even if they don’t benefit from the fallout. Paradoxically, the majority of Indian men fit that profile to a T.

Much of Indian history and behavioral patterns start making sense once you accept that most Indian men are chicks with dicks. That is probably the biggest reason I could not, and cannot fit, into their living nightmare.


  1. June 4, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Is it because it all goes back to vegetarian food?
    It is hard for me to imagine a real man who is vegetarian.

    Yes, I believe that vegetarianism is part of the problem- directly and indirectly.

    • June 4, 2011 at 3:21 pm

      But what is the major cause of feminine character?

      • MetaThought
        June 4, 2011 at 6:32 pm

        Low Testosterone levels.

      • June 5, 2011 at 6:21 am

        But what causes low testosterone level?

  2. aanon
    June 4, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    I totally agree with you.

    I do side computer work and I WILL NOT accept jobs from Indian customers since they WILL try to fuck you out of money.

    They are like jews with a suntan but without the manners or culture. Even down to the men being utterly henpecked.

    • hahahahah
      June 4, 2011 at 9:02 pm

      Unlike joos you can’t even turn them into soap.

    • Barry
      June 5, 2011 at 6:52 am

      Lmao, yeah man, dirty Indians/Paki-stanis are the most repulsive human beings on earth!!! XD

  3. June 4, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    ‘sup mr.crapacoli-

    here’s a racist entry at sofiastry:


    interestingly enough, it is speculated you are either indian or ferdinand and it is speculated that you price haggle your prostitutes….

    I do think that would be a better way to rate women–not oh, she’s a ten but ho much would AD pay her for 2 and a half minutes of fun.

  4. June 4, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    the new manosphere war cry–Meat, Eat what ya beat…..

  5. Commander Shepard
    June 5, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    Nestorius :
    But what causes low testosterone level?

    Indians (much like Asians generally) value scholarship above and beyond anything else. Physical activity much less athleticism isn’t even on their radar.

  6. Laocoon
    June 26, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Indians take great happiness, and put great effort into, screwing over their own relatives and “friends”. Well, not only indians behave like this. The same in Romania. We have a proverb: “neighbor’s goat should die also!”.

  7. Prakash
    November 6, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Regarding femininity of Indian men, I have observed this too. Voice is an easy physical indicator of this. Indian men (most of them, i.e.) actually sound a lot less masculine than American men. Reason of this, I think, is the hierarchical or even feudalistic nature of their society; you have to show your subordination to your superior in body posture, in tone of your voice and other things ( for e.g. you can’t disagree or say no to your superior so you resort to passive-aggressive behavior). From childhood, Indians have to deal with a lot of superiors, parents, uncles/aunts, teachers, seniors in school/college/office, managers etc so I guess, the behavior sticks with them. In general Indians avoid one-on-one confrontation, instead they resort to a lot of behavior that is indirect.

    It is possible vegetarianism may also be contributing to this, but I can’t find a good reason for this. Brahmin men, especially south Indian ones (they are almost always vegetarian) come across as very feminine. When my manager, who is a south Indian brahmin guy, gets excited or angry his usually high pitched voice gets worse and he starts sounding like a woman. Apart from the voice he has behavioral traits that are commonly associated with women. I also observed these traits prominently in other South Indian brahmin men.
    BTW, meat is expensive in India and it takes a lot of time to cook, so most non-vegetarian Indians don’t eat meat every day, it is usually cooked on Sundays and on special occasions. So you may generalize and say Indians are vegetarians and vegetarianism may be contributing to femininity of Indian men, but I am interested to hear any scientific or even a pseudo-scientific reason for this.

    There are couple of books that helped me understand Indians a bit:
    “Being Indian” by Pavan K Verma
    “The Indians:Portrait of a People” by Sudhir Kakar

    1st one is a very easy read. 2nd one is a bit technical, but manageable.

  8. Prakash
    November 6, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    Not sure if you are aware of the term “amoral familism” or “familial amoralism” coined by Edward Banfield in his book “The Moral Basis of a Backward Society” to explain the backwardness of southern Italian town of Montegrano. Amoral familism explains in part why Indians can’t work together in heterogeneous groups .

    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moral_Basis_of_a_Backward_Society:

    “Banfield postulated that the backwardness of such a society could be explained ‘largely but not entirely’ by ‘the inability of the villagers to act together for their common good or, indeed, for any end transcending the immediate, material interest of the nuclear family’.”

    In case of Indians ‘family’ can be extended to include extended-family or even caste. Indians are very good at constructing hierarchies so in heterogeneous groups they would create caste based sub-groups & work well with persons from same caste and sideline or even screw Indians from other castes. But in homogeneous groups femininity of Indian men could be the reason for mutually destructive behavior.

  9. IndianWoman
    April 4, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    Both Indian men and women are passive aggressive and it is so frustrating when you have to interact with them until you figure out what they are doing. I am an NRI woman and have worked with Indians that were full of resentments that they would never express directly but in hurtful passive aggressive ways. I have a sister-in-law who married my NRI brother and I thought I was losing my mind because I somehow sensed that she actually resented me and was sabotaging me but she was so good at pretending to be sweet and nice to those around me that I couldn’t expose her true deceptive and hate-filled nature without making myself appear delusional. This is a very toxic behavior pattern and I am embarrassed to say Indians raised in India are experts at it.

    • P Ray
      May 4, 2013 at 8:14 pm

      I came across this Persian(she says: I call her Iranian) girl in NZ who was just like that. In spades.
      So, no, you guys don’t get the award.

    • bill
      June 14, 2016 at 1:12 pm

      I totally agree with you we had an IT contractor who behaved just like her.

  10. siva
    May 4, 2013 at 4:57 am

    Sadly I agree with this article. I am a south indian. It helps me to understand my own behaviour. Veneration of authority – I don’t know how to get out of this after being conditioned for so long.

  11. July 9, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    Unfortunately, you are right. And I’m not an Indian (no pun intended), but I notice most Indian men I’ve seen are far too passive aggressive, have no style and like East Asian men, they have pseudo feminine tendencies, but they assume they are superior because of their love of money and business-minded “ethics” and tendencies. Then again, this is how most money-hungry, business-minded men act. Because they live in America (a society that has degraded their culture, like they have done to African-Americans, although there are some hardass black men still alive and well) and in America, if you are not white or Asian, you have to “go along to get along”. Me? I don’t play that shit and that’s one reason why I am self-employed!

  12. September 8, 2015 at 10:07 pm

    I think it is an effect that you are talking about, not the cause. Nearly 500 years of largely foreign, Muslim rule topped by 200 years of brutal colonial rule and exploitation left most of Indian people broken and their self esteem in shatters. This is by far the main reason, not vegetarianism or anything else.

    It is also instructive to realize that caste also plays a role in shaping how an Indian behaves. The priestly/scholar castes (like Brahmins) would be less money minded, would have aversion to violence or confrontation and would value scholarship and knowledge more. On the other hand, the ruling/warrior castes would be more upfront and aggressive. The trading castes would be akin to stereotypical, older jews in money-mindedness and pettyness (combined with cowardliness too!). Do note that people outside India do not encounter the bluecollar/working class people easily.

    Of course, in the modern age, these lines are blurring. The caste system is weakening and people are increasingly adopting a cosmopolitan way of life, identity and behaviour. (which itself is always under development!)

    • P Ray
      September 10, 2015 at 8:53 pm

      So … what’s your opinion about INDIAN Muslims? They do exist … just like Chinese, Japanese, Caucasian, African, Mexican Muslims …

      • Gp
        April 6, 2018 at 3:13 am

        They seem to be too fragmented and can’t be called an identity. They too have mirror images of Hindu/ancestral divisions.

  13. discardedbylife
    October 19, 2016 at 8:02 pm

    You read my exact thoughts and expanded on it. So bizarre is this that I had to look it up. Thanks for exposing this.

  14. discardedbylife
    October 19, 2016 at 8:16 pm

    Reblogged this on Stuck In India.

  15. sHI
    January 9, 2017 at 12:19 am

    I’m Indian (sadly), and cannot bear to be around 99.99% of my own countrymen. Indian women are much better human beings in comparison though.

    Every time I travel abroad, I feel as if I don’t belong anywhere. Given that I’m so sick and tired of Indians in my own country, I don’t want to hang out with them anymore once I’m in a foreign land. It’s a double-edged sword because (foreigners) want nothing to do with me when I tell them I’m from India. It’s a no-win situation.

    It’s funny.

  16. Gp
    April 6, 2018 at 3:10 am

    Do u think the same applies to east asians(Chinese, Jap, kor) too. And if so to what extent.
    Also give an example of culture/people who are the opposite.

    • Gp
      April 7, 2018 at 6:31 am

      Is this post dead? Can I expect an answer AD. Do you stop discussing old posts?

      Well.. if you really want to know the truth. In my opinion, the biggest problem with Indians is that too many still believe in divisions based on caste or “jati”. It is by far the worst thing to have ever happened to them and is entirely self-inflicted.

      Considerations about caste have divided and fractured Indian society to a much greater extent than similar divisions did to other societies. Belief in caste is the main reason foreign invaders were able to successfully invade and rule India for centuries. It is also the reason there is little, to no sense, of large scale solidarity or shared destiny in India today.

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