How The Online World Displaces The Traditional

I have pointed out, in many previous posts, that online life is successfully competing with ‘real’ life. Whether we look at the importance of computer games, social media and even how we keep in touch with people we know in ‘real’ life- things have changed a lot since people used Netscape 1.0 on Windows 3.1.

One of the important results of this shift has been the creation of social niches (and groups) which did not previously exist.

Let me explain that with a personal example-

You see, I always had a strong interest in spanking naughty girls. However prior to the intertubes, my ability to know about the prevalence of this interest was rather limited. While I did find willing girls even before the intertubes, it was somewhat odd to bring up with a potentially willing girl. That is no longer the case and the intertubes are full of terabytes of text, pictures, videos, newsgroups and a lot of people who want to talk about it. Therefore a formerly taboo-ish topic is now practically mainstream.

The same can be said of stuff like escorts, pubic shaving, body piercing, anal sex.. you get the picture.

But does this not also apply to ideas and views beyond sex? Would concepts like game, MGTOW, objective assessments of what women are really like, universities as scams, mainstream dietary and medical experts as frauds etc have taken off without the intertubes?

Let me explain this concept with an alternate reality scenario.

Imagine a world just like ours, but in which the internet did not exist or was hard/scarce/ expensive to use. Now imagine how different Ferdinand Bardamu’s life would have been in that alternate reality. We can look at 40-somethings today as a guide for that alternate course of events.

He would have quickly run into the wall of limited possibilities. While some of them would have been of a more mundane nature, such as not being able to easily search for jobs in somewhat distant places- the biggest effect would be on his worldview.

Think about how many women would not be keeping their cooters bald today if it was not for the direct and indirect effects of the internet. It created and normalized the demand that women keep it hairless. Now imagine him trying to convince girls to shave/wax their muff in a world where the internet had not made it normal.

The same can be said about what he now think about women. If FB was born, say.. 15 years before he was, any misgivings he had about feminism would have been beaten out of him by women, white knights, manginas, mainstream media and academia. He would simply have nowhere to go and find out if his views, and experiences, were similar to other men. He might have accepted a lot of shit from the women he dated, and might even had to deal with stuff like child support.

Even worse- he might have come to love ‘big brother’.

Similarly his views on a variety of subjects from experts, academia, race, family, manliness etc would have been overtly influenced by people in his immediate physical vicinity, official experts and their traditional views. He probably would have assimilated and then defended those ideas even if they were against his best interests. His views on issues like rape, capitalism, justice and many other issues would be quite different from what they now are.

So how, and why, does the internet affect his interactions with the ‘real’ world?

While he, and many men of our generation (born in the late 1970s or later), have seen stuff which is very different from what tradition teaches and older people believe in- many others have not. However, one cannot unsee the matrix or perceive people who are still plugged in like before. They, and their worldview, feel distant and alien even if they are physically nearer. Often, you cannot even help them see alternate possibilities as their egos and emotional attachments get in the way. I know what I am talking about..

The end result of this peculiar series of events is that those who have seen the matrix start drifting away from what was traditionally considered to be their identity, groups and roles. A hybrid online-‘real’ identity is a common outcome and most of their new ideas and experiences now come from the online world. In that respect, ubiquitous smartphones and laptops have merely streamlined a process which started with desktops connected to the internet.

Did I mention that there is no worthwhile ‘reality’ to reintegrate with?

The process of an online world displacing the traditional one has begun on a large scale since the early-mid 2000s. It will probably accelerate and in combination with feedback loops will start manifesting itself in the ‘real’ world more frequently and with greater consequence as the months and years roll by..


  1. June 26, 2011 at 6:02 pm


    Is this your way of saying that you and Ferdinand are 1?

    I guess this means that his “away for work” really means sex vacation with advocatus crapacoli…..

    anyways, I remember before the internet exploded, I would learn about underground heavy metal bands via zines. There were still methods of communication in the old world. I remember listening to death metal in the early 90’s and the thing that struck me was how different Entombed sounded from Carcass sounded from Morbid Angel etc…. I think the ‘net has made things more homogeneous–as that applies to music, more bands sound the same. A sound engineer in Germany is reading the same stuff as a sound engineer in Texas and all the bands are using similar equipment. Before there were more “regional dialects.” This band had a certain sound because they could only get their hands on a certain kind of amp in their home country and the engineer had one type of mixing board and only knew a certain way how to use it—seems like Pro Tools is the standard for the last 10 years. Now the knowledge is more universal but that has resulted in more similarity rather than more difference. (I know that that is something for huge debate and others might disagree strongly.)

    • hans
      June 26, 2011 at 9:07 pm

      Bah, who the fuck cares about fucking death metal shit and who fucked how many groupies.

      The point is your little niche is now a global one due to the internet. And some local amateur crap that “seemed” cool back in the day now has to shape up.

      • June 26, 2011 at 10:22 pm

        whatever hand solo—-

        check your reading comprehension, I never mentioned groupies. Better yet, post on feministe you closet feminist you!!!

  2. hans
    June 26, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Good points.

    The net may have been created to dazzle us with all the “online worlds,” so we increasingly care less about the big bro crap creeping up on us.
    But it seemed to have worked exactly the opposite. In spite of the massive disinfo clogging up the nets.
    Probably the main reason for this push to control the net.

    • June 27, 2011 at 7:59 am

      hand solo—-

      the internet was created so the military could keep communications up in the event of nuclear war…..

      go back to whining about patriarchy and how men don’t like you cause you are fat somewhere else…..

      • hans
        June 29, 2011 at 11:51 pm

        Did your dick-educamation not include German male names?
        Color me unsurprised.
        Everyone knows Al Gore “invented” teh interwebs!
        Got anymore common knowledge memes to spew out that have nothing to do with actual reality?
        I betcha do.

  3. Commander Shepard
    June 27, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Very well said AD. This blog has some great analysis on current and future trends. Certainly better than anything that comes out of the mainstream propaganda machine.

    I agree with Hans. Who gives a shit about something as worthless as death metal? No wonder he didn’t bother to read your entire paragraph. It had nothing to do with his reading comprehension either.The point here is that on the issues that really matter the internet has given a voice to real underground movements.

  4. June 27, 2011 at 8:12 pm


    “a voice to underground movements” and a parallel drawn to “underground music.” If you can’t see any connection, well reading comprehension is the least of your problems. Ya don’t have to like the music to see the point I was making–whatever….

  5. hans
    June 29, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    stonerwithaboner :
    check your reading comprehension, I never mentioned groupies.

    Oh, I think I got done told.
    So somebody missed the train on easy metal chick poon back in the day?
    Good for you actually. Those bitches are crazier than a glue sniffing monkey.
    Though no need to tell you about glue sniffing.

  6. July 3, 2011 at 4:02 am


    I agree. Death metal is conformity now.

    I don’t buy into the whole “the internet opened up new venues” thing — it may have legitimized them for some, but they were always there. Just harder to find.

  7. January 30, 2017 at 1:13 am

    Great analysis as always. I’m amazed there are few Likes; your commentary is as relevant as a newspaper column read by millions (the old media imagine anyway), though unacceptable of course to the establishment.

    For what it’s worth I agree with stonerwithaboner; not a Death Meral
    fan, but it’s undeniable that many art forms have not been positively affected by the internet. As a general principle, for example, self-publishing for example has not driven the standard of writing up – by establishment(?) aesthetic criteria – who has surpassed Herman Melville, for example, Jane Austen, Alberto Moravia? We can surely all agree its effect in ‘creative writing’ has been primarily to allow more people to express their ideas and views, to satisfy more diverse, and therefore numerically smaller, interest groups. That said, I’m thrilled to read analysis and arguments that are to me utterly honest – maybe unsustainable, like much post-Enlightenment wisdom, because they depower the biological reproduction mechanism, and will not therefore be passed on to future generations. Nevertheless it feels to have an exciting, fin de siécle, but honest quality.

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