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Thich Quang Duc Had An Audience and Visual Documentation

All of the talk about media ignoring Tom Ball’s self-immolation tends to overlook the two most important reasons behind why Thich Quang Duc’s self-immolation was successful in destroying the Diem regime in Vietnam.

Have a look at the famous Pulitzer prize-winning photo-

Do you see two factors that made his sacrifice so memorable? He had two things that Tom Ball did not have-

1. A sympathetic audience (note the monks around him).

2. Visual documentation (remember that this photo won the Pulitzer prize in 1963)

Here is a video clip of that event.


  1. anonymous
    June 27, 2011 at 12:38 am

    I don’t get the Tom Ball deal. He was $3k behind in child support and facing jail time, so he burned himself to death? His statement was articulate, but he must have had some major screws loose. If he was $300k behind in child support and a permanent debt-slave, I might sympathize more. He said he was unemployed for two years but didn’t say why. I could get a McDonald’s job a come up with $3k. And who slaps their daughter busting her lip, for “licking his hand” ? Sounds like she was being playful and he flipped out.

    I don’t even try to understand the Thich Quang Duc self-immolation. That was a totally different culture, and it was a chronic war zone with corruption on all sides.

  2. demirogue
    June 27, 2011 at 6:32 am

    Anonymous, the point being is he had enough of being dicked around by the corrupt system. It wasn’t even about the money. It was about the social system in place that has gone overboard as to make parenting itself a crime. Especially the way it is set up automatically against men.

    Money can’t buy you love and the major fallacy of the left is that it can’t buy them their Eutopia either. Especially if all it does is keep placing more and more restrictions in the pursuit and goal of attaining more of it. Never mind the ensuing police and nanny states that are needed to seize and re-distribute it.

  3. June 27, 2011 at 7:01 am

    mr. crapacoli—

    I’m not gonna comment on Mr. Ball but I will say this. The media is showing us far less about what is going on in Iraq/Afghanistan than what was shown in Vietnam….

    A free press is important to Democracy, the current press seems happier talking about Anthony’s Weiner….

    So, Mr.crapacoli, connect the dots for us…..

  4. demirogue
    June 27, 2011 at 7:23 am

    We are a Republic, not a Democracy.

    These two forms of government: Democracy and Republic, are not only dissimilar but antithetical, reflecting the sharp contrast between (a) The Majority Unlimited, in a Democracy, lacking any legal safeguard of the rights of The Individual and The Minority, and (b) The Majority Limited, in a Republic under a written Constitution safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority; as we shall now see.

    • June 27, 2011 at 7:33 am


      Is this what you are referring to?


      from the last paragraph:

      To the extent that the United States of America has moved away from its republican roots and become more “democratic,” it has strayed from the intentions of the Constitution’s authors. Whether or not the trend toward more direct democracy would be smiled upon by the Framers depends on the answer to another question. Are the American people today sufficiently better informed and otherwise equipped to be wise and prudent democratic citizens than were American citizens in the late 1700s? By all accounts, the answer to this second question is an emphatic “no.”

      ….and that is why a free press as well as a literate populace is so important

      • demirogue
        June 27, 2011 at 8:04 am

        To the Republic, for which it stands…………..

        is gone for the time being. Mainly because the populace is uneducated and ignorant of their responsibility to keep government in check. And the media, which we see first hand, is not our ally but now our enemy.

  5. June 27, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Yup Demirogue–I bet more Americans can name the Kardashian sisters than the three branches of government and how they are supposed to create a system of checks and balances….

  6. June 29, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Even with widespread use of camera phones, nobody bothered to snap a photo or record Tom Ball’s self-immolation, let alone notice that someone doused himself in gasoline in public. Nobody gives a fuck anymore.

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