The Asian Worship of “Lost Golden Ages”

One of the most peculiar beliefs of Asians, and increasingly Europeans, is that their past was better than the present or the future. Now think about that rationally..

The past had feudalism, monarchy, despotism, famines, epidemics, grinding poverty, back-breaking labor, high childhood mortality, malnutrition, priestly scumbags and a host of other problems which should be obvious to any person with more than half a brain.

Even the pre-ww2 peak of western Europe was not that great for most people living in that part of the world. The degree and extent of global post-ww2 prosperity and technological progress is unlike any period in human history. There is simply no analogue, let alone homologue, to the age we live in.

However a large percentage of people want to preserve their culture, traditions and other assorted lunacies. Face it.. most culture, customs, traditions are meant to stop progress and keep a shitty status quo going.

So let me go after them one by one..

Take China and other east-Asian countries. Their traditions of conformity, respecting tradition and integrating the old into new are the biggest roadblocks to any intrinsic progress. Their zero sum attitudes towards money and generally autistic attitude will be their undoing- look at Japan to see the best case dystopia. There is something wrong with a civilization when their younger member feel that there is no future worth striving for.

Copying technology, and being good at manufacturing, has its limits as the Japanese experience has shown. It is not that they lack intelligent people or heretics, but a society that imposes stifling conformity is ultimately its own worst enemy. The Japanese got rid of guns and Western thinking in the 17th century.. and see where it got them in the 19th (Black Ships).

And who are these industrial powerhouses going to sell their products to? They themselves are remarkably frugal and spend less than they earn thereby reducing money supply over time. However a reduction in money supply will reduce demand and commercial activity. Supply chains and industrial activity requires a certain minimum threshold of stable demand. But if everybody holds on their cash nobody will produce more than the very basics of life, and even that will become far more inefficient as the technological capacity degrades. We will then have a world where everybody has money but nothing worthwhile to spend it on.

India is no better. I have never understood why their self-destructive attitudes towards many things from food, dress and customs could prevail when reform was possible. Only a system with a death wish would not fully exploit available and inexpensive agricultural technology. The same can be said about providing water to people, agriculture and industry. How can a country where even the few arid regions have annual rainfall levels exceeding many parts of inland Spain not have enough water throughout the year? The population density in most areas of India, save a few urban centers, is less than many west-European countries.

Then there is this bullshit religious crap about not eating meat and why would any woman in India wear such heavy clothes.. it is HOT there! It is interesting to note that women in India, for most of history, did not wear even a fraction of what they wear now. Moreover with the partial exception of beef, Indians were avid meat-eaters for most of history, as numerous independent accounts of visitors from other countries attest to. Even more peculiar are their current levels of sexual prudery- which not the case even 150 years ago. So which set of beliefs are the traditionalists trying to uphold?

Coming to the Middle-East. Somebody has to tell the majority of people in that part of the world that they cannot live as if it was 700 AD. It is simply not possible to have anything approaching a functional society with 21st century technology and 7th century laws, customs and mores. Is there is single somewhat stable country in that region- other than Israel? Why not? I my opinion, it is more about outlook than religion or IQ. You can find many educated and reasonably secularized people from that region do quite well in N. America- so they certainly don’t lack the mental apparatus to run a less dysfunctional show.

It is just that the attitudes and belief systems in their countries of origin are stuck in a different era- and regrettably they won’t come unstuck until there is much more internal strife in those countries. However even in those countries we see a tendency to relive the ‘glorious’ past through reinstitution of religion based laws and mores. Let us be honest about something.. that whole set of customs, laws and traditions were meant for a zero-sum existence in some god forsaken village in an era whose remains needs to be demolished and paved over.

Will skewer Europe in the next part of this series.

Comments?

  1. September 5, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    you don’t even have to go that far east, look at the weirdos in the manosphere who want to return to the 1950’s….

    They don’t realize they wouldn’t have the internet then to whine about everything….

    • hans
      September 6, 2011 at 2:57 am

      Ugh, if only I could have a buck every time some smartass blogger equates the “manosphere” with all these PUA fuckers.

      Fuck the 50ies!
      Let the bitches work their asses of just like we´re supposed to. It´s the feminist supremacy disguising as “equality”, stupid.

  2. September 5, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Coming to the Middle-East. Somebody has to tell the majority of people in that part of the world that they cannot live as if it was 700 AD. It is simply not possible to have anything approaching a functional society with 21st century technology and 7th century laws, customs and mores. Is there is single somewhat stable country in that region- other than Israel?

    What does technology got to do with laws? The Jews live according to laws that date back to the 11th century BC. French law and other so-called civil laws claim to be based on Roman law which is older than the 7th century.

    Is porn the only criteria of progress?

    • September 7, 2011 at 8:39 am

      It would be nice if you actually knew about the evolution of Jewish Common Law. Much of our legal code is based on it. The “whose ox was gored” meme is based on readings from the Jewish law. Which our founders were conversant with.

  3. September 5, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    that whole set of customs, laws and traditions were meant for a zero-sum existence in some god forsaken village in an era whose remains needs to be demolished and paved over

    Who will demolish the laws? Laws are part of the social contract. Demolish the law, you demolish the association and you create chaos. And in our era of advanced technology, chaos is worst. Now, who will recreate the association again? Why should former members of a demolished society associate again? On what bases?

  4. hans
    September 6, 2011 at 3:12 am

    Israel? Don´t even go there.
    The only reason they´re living as they do is because that whole state is HEAVILY subsidized by the US. And they still manage to rob their “own” people, like the current protests show.

    To quote some Star Trek, whatever the fuck makes you think humans are a rationally acting species?
    Even your own supposed rationality is basically a thinly disguised selfhate and borderline sociopath nihilism.

    Also I wouldn´t hail our modern western agriculture industry to the high heavens at all. All these Monsanto frankenfood crops only LOOK GOOD because of the unsustainable irrigation technologies and crude oil based fertilizer abuse.
    The soil is basically lifeless. The crops themselves are GM suicide strains usually sprayed so heavily to be too poisonous for human consumption. Thus overwhelmingly ending up as livestock foods or as the newest insane green fad, car fuel.

    • September 7, 2011 at 8:43 am

      Ah. Yes. The current protests. Organized by American lefties.

      No one seems to notice our Subsidies to the Saudis: guarding the high seas trade for all including them.

  5. Commander Shepard
    September 6, 2011 at 10:23 am

    stonerwithaboner :
    you don’t even have to go that far east, look at the weirdos in the manosphere who want to return to the 1950′s….
    They don’t realize they wouldn’t have the internet then to whine about everything….

    They’d argue there was less to complain about then. I’d agree somewhat. The 50’s and 60’s were probably the peak of western civilization. The freedom, the peace/stability, the standard of living, the upward mobility, the quality of the political leadership, the promise of a better tomorrow. It was rather unprecedented. The victors of WW2 reaped the rewards and the immediate post war years were among the best of times. I say that well aware that as a non-white I’d be regarded as sub-human trash in that era but the prosperity of those years stretched globally ad everyone benefited from the boom.

  6. Commander Shepard
    September 6, 2011 at 10:26 am

    What do we really have today that is SO much better than what the boomers enjoyed? An xbox and an internet connection? Some of us prefer rewards in the real world. Unfortunately for us our inheritance was squandered.

    • September 7, 2011 at 8:44 am

      I’m a boomer. I had a PC in 1975.

  7. Commander Shepard
    September 6, 2011 at 10:36 am

    hans :
    Israel? Don´t even go there.
    The only reason they´re living as they do is because that whole state is HEAVILY subsidized by the US. And they still manage to rob their “own” people, like the current protests show.

    Israel only gets a couple billion dollars a year in American “aid” which is more like a subsidy to the US arms industry rather than to Israel. The Jewish state is a high tech hub with an immensely high standard of living and the most powerful military in the region. Israel is the most successful country in history. It achieved in fifty years what most haven’t been able to do for centuries or with immense natural resources.

    • Ted
      September 12, 2011 at 7:30 am

      Yes, the most “powerful” military which could not go deeper than 2 KM into Lebanin when fighting Hezbollah in 2006. Better stick with bombing Palestinian grandmothers.

  8. J.M
    September 7, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    Commander Shepard please stop the worship for Israel. The jews are a resourceful people, however without the subsidies of US and Germany (yes, for all those years of oppression Germany has been forced to pay either in cash or in infrastructure) Israel wouldn’t be the nation it is today, without the West’s support Israel wouldn’t have the nuclear weaponry it has…..

  9. Commander Shepard
    September 7, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    So what? Every nation maximizes support from allies abroad. The USSR supported Arab countries for decades. Where are they vis a vis Israel? Still socially backwards, technologically primitive, militarily weak, and economically impoverished. Even oil rich gulf countries (western allies) have mostly squandered their immense natural resource wealth.

    Israel established itself as a major military power and economic hub against all the odds. That’s a laudatory achievement.

  10. davver
    September 12, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    Technology will naturally progress, using Iphones as a reason that current culture is superior to prior culture is a retarded argument. When people pine for the past they pine for past cultural traditions combined with today’s technology.

  11. Gorbachev
    September 17, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Almost all “pasts” people imagine are worlds we’d not want to live in.

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