Why My World View Will Prevail: 1

This post is the first in a series about why my world view will prevail- improbable as that may seem to some of you. So let me begin by analyzing what my competitors offer, and what they don’t, starting with the “alt-right” or whatever those morons want to call themselves.

Whether is Piggy, Mangy, Half-Shitma, 1STD or that Vox guy– the “alt-right” world view goes something like this..

The old ways are good and old “knowledge” is true and eternal. ‘IQ’ tests are relevant and democracy is dysgenic. Authoritarianism is good and life is unfair. So called experts are actually knowledgeable and education at “elite” institutions is somehow superior to learning the same material elsewhere. Only gold is money and deflation is good. Whites are angels and blacks are subhuman etc..

I could go on and list a few more of their beliefs, but that is not the aim of this post. Let us instead focus on what they offer (or don’t offer) in the way of solutions to the problems which other people face. It is hard to ignore that all of their advice and solutions involve some mix of the following memes.

A. Kiss a lot of ass and hope they let you into their exclusive ‘elite’ club. (Half-Shitma)

B. Slave for some rich guy and hope he throws you some scraps.(Mangy, Vox and Piggy)

C. Back to the 1950s or some other era when “everything was right”. (OneSTD and Mangy)

D. Accept your fate and eat shit, while shitting on others below you. (Half-Shitma and Piggy)

E. Believe in God and hope for some form of apocalypse. (Vox and Mangy)

Some of you might see this as an extreme simplification of their positions. Guess what- It is! Wrapping the same piece of shit in different wrappings, altering its shape or sprinkling something edible on it does not change the fact that it is just a piece of shit. Their advice is a particularly nasty version of fatalism with an emphasis on, and reverence to, a zero sum view of the world. They are telling you how to be a better dodo, rather than stop being a tool for somebody else.

They do not offer any realistic hope for a better world and rationalize their view by believing that things never really change. Any effort to point out that the world has changed a lot in the last 200, but especially the last 60, years beyond anything in the previous 10,000 years is met with a repetition of some quote by some philosophist who lived and died in a world we could not recognize if we lived in it.

The sad truth is that Piggy, Mangy, Half-Shitma, 1STD, Vox, Sailer, Unamused or any of those “alt-right” guys do not have a realistic model of the world we live in nor a set of actionable plans based in physical reality.

My approach is based on a fundamentally different way of looking at the world. I am more interested in the convergence of what is probable and less undesirable. It is about taking a path based on its internal logical and rational consistency rather than following somebody else because they were famous.

Let us for a moment consider what these “alt-right” types offer most men in exchange for supporting their ideology to fruition. Let me think…. Nothing! That is right, they do not offer anything worthwhile to the vast majority of men, even those of the white persuasion. Their ideologies are essentially recycled versions of the same ponzi scheme which cons and steals from the many to benefit a few.

In contrast, supporting my world view offers the distinct possibility of a lifestyle with more resources, autonomy and a better standard of living for most people, irrespective of their race or ethnicity. It is also internally self-consistent, unlike many traditional world-views, which have a schizophrenic attitude towards any action depending on whether the person is an insider or not.

It looks at actions, attitudes, behaviors and systems from the point of maximizing cooperation between all willing participants in the system- given the quirks of human behavior. I refute simplistic and/or delusional models of human behavior. People are not black-and-white caricatures devoted to maximizing utility or being purely altruistic, criminal or law-abiding, honest or dishonest, empathic or sociopathic. We are a mixture of all those opposing characteristics- in varying proportions. The key is to create conditions which favor changes in one direction over the other.

This is where my ideas diverge from traditional LIEbral dogma and sollipism. I believe that altering the direction of change requires the abrupt disappearance of those who support the old and increasingly unworkable ways. Whether it is paradigms such as the current model of education, health-care, law enforcement, governance or more fundamental issues such as the role of jobs, money and purpose in our society- gradual change for the better is unlikely.

Only the widespread loss of faith in the system with simultaneous efforts to make it overextend itself past the breaking point will achieve any significant change.

I see my current role as someone who sows the seeds of doubts which assisted by the present conditions result WILL result in more people losing all faith in the current setup. However in contrast to many others who do the same- I offer a reasonably well-defined alternative to the current setup which avoids many of the problems which plague the current setup, through a different set of initial assumptions.

Will write more in upcoming parts of this series. What do you think? Comments?

  1. December 17, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    I agree (though I do enjoy those other bloggers); I wrote something similar, should be up on InMalaFide in the next few days.

    We are not going to go back to the old ways; we need to be ready to forge our own standards, our own institutions. Marriage is the perfect example. In an era with freely-available birth control, we’re not going to go back to the “No sex until marriage”. It ain’t happening. Patriarchy was a great model for 1000s of years, but there’s no way that telling a 20 year old nowadays “Multiple sex partners will make it hard to bond in marriage…” will have any effect.

    Marriage in 10 years (something I’m not sure if want…) or immediate orgasm? Immediate orgasm will be chosen.

    The current model, of male obligation, and female pursuit of the Alpha Male is not acceptable, either. That gives us George Soldini.

    It might be worthwhile looking back to the Paleolithic, and the sexual mores we had at the time.

    • J.M.
      December 25, 2011 at 3:56 pm

      Aurini we are living more and more with the Paleolithic mores so I don´t think looking at them is of any use…

  2. Ryu
    December 17, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    Well, I wish you luck. This should be an interesting series.

  3. Andrew
    December 17, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    Holy god you are not only delusional you are an egomaniac. Like your dumb blog is some kind of vortex of revolutionary thought. You’re an IT dork that can’t get laid posing as some kind of philosopher. LOL.

    • olaf
      December 20, 2011 at 11:05 am

      “Holy god you are not only delusional you are an egomaniac. Like your dumb blog is some kind of vortex of revolutionary thought.”

      You can say this about any of the blogs in the “manosphere”

  4. December 17, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    hahahahaha,

    I don’t care for the alt right…

    most of ’em probably think I’m a piece of garbage as they do you…

    you probably think I’m a piece of garbage….

    I might not be smart, but at least I know the score….

    FUCK YOU!!!!

    • Southpaw
      December 30, 2011 at 9:08 am

      LOL…….”I’m not a smart man, but i know what love is”

  5. Chris
    December 18, 2011 at 12:50 am

    Some of these guys are receptive to reasonable arguments.Gucci piggy didnt know that goverments understate inflation ( even though he has a degree in economics ) but he eventually decided to google it and he changed his mind .The problem is that writing the same thing day after day(blacks have low iq,immigrants put hard working americans out of work,people should pay their debts to the bankers,blah blah blah) gets real tiring.

  6. o
    December 18, 2011 at 7:33 am

    What is interesting about those people is that they never grow. It is always the same old stupid positions time after time. They almost never change their minds. They just exchanged one orthodoxy for another, and the second orthodoxy in many ways accepts all the premises of the first orthodoxy but merely builds different interpretations on them.

    I spent a bit of time in the alt-sphere once I realized that mainstream society stuff is bullshit but I eventually grew out of it because I did not stop thinking and questioning. It is amazing to me how these people simply dont grow, year after year. The other amazing thing is how they accept all the mainstream premises but just build a new ideology around it. It never occurs to them to question the premises and come up with something really radical and new.

    It is just sad to see this people stuck in the same old rut year after year.

  7. o
    December 18, 2011 at 7:36 am

    Oh, and not that I like you any better AD. I think you are a pretty twisted and sadistic individual and you rarely respond well to intelligent criticisms of your positions, but you are definitely more free thinking – an outside the box thinker – and see more things clearly and intelligently than those you call your competitors, although you are not free from dogmatic idiocies either. I also feel that you have been severely mis-treated throughout your life and much of your sadism is a result of your failure to keep a sense of perspective about it, so perhaps can be forgiven somewhat.

    • December 18, 2011 at 9:04 am

      I doubt if he actually was “mistreated.” Despite what the liberals and other pc types say, some are just born bad….

      • Ray Manta
        December 18, 2011 at 4:06 pm

        Steve Sailer has some relevant theories about why some foreigners raised in wealthy countries and afforded far better opportunities, education, and lifestyle than they could get back at home end up hating their adoptive country and want to bite the hand that fed it.

        Having said that, I agree with A.D. that HBD fetishists like OneSTDV are FOS, along with most of the alt-right ‘traditionalist’ types. We can build a future far better than the pabulum that they offer.

      • o
        December 19, 2011 at 3:05 am

        I dont know, AD has alluded to betrayals by friends and family, so I think its more personal. So now he is bitter, but that kind of thing passes. I wonder if some of his own behavior brought on his mis-treatment, too. I once went through a period of being treated like shit by others, but the truth was I was acting in seriously anti-social and hostile ways without admitting that to myself, so I was a bit of a culprit in my own plight. It took some bitter, bitter honesty to admit that I was at least partly responsible for the shitty way others were treating me rather than just lash out and get revenge at the world. I went through this phase where the world just looked like shit, but then I regained my mental balance. We gotta give AD time. Or maybe he is just poisoned – who knows 😉

      • Ray Manta
        December 19, 2011 at 5:58 am

        o wrote:
        I dont know, AD has alluded to betrayals by friends and family, so I think its more personal.

        No offense, but I have a problem seeing how betrayals by friends and family could explain his extreme anti-white bias. Sailer’s observations about the attitudes of imports from cultural backwaters seem a lot more relevant. Far from being grateful for the educational and other privileges granted them, they often grow to despise their adoptive culture as if to compensate for an inferiority complex.

        He’s only too eager to go on and on about their massive faults and corruption while glossing over the fact that our current advanced civilization is mostly the end product of the brilliance and labor of white males. Sorry, but that’s the way it is.

        I wonder if some of his own behavior brought on his mis-treatment, too.

        He’s hinted that white women didn’t generally find him attractive which he’s resented. I can relate to that – I’m white and have found the princess mentality and overprivileging of white women in Western society to be tiresome.

        We gotta give AD time. Or maybe he is just poisoned – who knows

        He can have all the time he wants. Effective social critics need to develop the ability to ‘stand back’ and not be excessively influenced by their own personal situation. AD hasn’t developed that ability and I’m not sure he ever will. Which is a shame because he does have some good insights.

      • o
        December 19, 2011 at 6:31 am

        Well, I see him as less anti-white than simply anti-human. Did you miss his incredibly critical posts on the shittiness of being Indian or East Asian? You seem to be ignoring those. I dont in fact see any special animus towards whites – they are just not spared. He is just as shitty about all other types of people as well. In fact he has compared Western culture with its innovation favorably to Indian and Asian cultures.

        He also writes posts gloating about personal suffering of strangers without reference to race, he describes fantasies of inflicting harm on random strangers, and he has several times alluded to extreme personal betrayals and how this has caused him to lose sympathy for the human race.

        So I think that provides context – his view is generally anti-human for personal reasons and part of that is being anti-white, anti-Indian, anti-Asian, etc.

        Effective social critics need to develop the ability to ‘stand back’ and not be excessively influenced by their own personal situation.

        Maybe, but as you yourself note, he has some good insights, so even though his view has massive distortions in it, he is still an outside the box thinker and somewhat interesting. At the end of the day his different take may be related to his cognitive distortions in ways that would be impossible to separate – maybe the day AD develops *objectivity* is the day he becomes boring.

      • Ray Manta
        December 19, 2011 at 8:01 am

        o wrote:
        Well, I see him as less anti-white than simply anti-human. Did you miss his incredibly critical posts on the shittiness of being Indian or East Asian? You seem to be ignoring those.

        Oh yes, I forgot about those. Your point is well taken. Indians and East Asians have also achieved advanced civilizations, so his cultural envy may extend to them as well.

        I dont in fact see any special animus towards whites – they are just not spared. He is just as shitty about all other types of people as well.

        If that were true, he’d be posting rants about hellholes such as Liberia or Burundi. But they fly below his radar because they’re genuinely inferior cultures to his own.

        In fact he has compared Western culture with its innovation favorably to Indian and Asian cultures.

        Good, but overall I find his attitude just too dismissive and it smacks of cherry-picking.

        he is still an outside the box thinker and somewhat interesting. At the end of the day his different take may be related to his cognitive distortions in ways that would be impossible to separate – maybe the day AD develops *objectivity* is the day he becomes boring.

        That may well be true, and I didn’t consider it. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

      • December 19, 2011 at 8:21 am

        I’ve already posted this but since it is pertinent…

        Stoner With a Boner December 8, 2011 at 3:56 am

        time to psychoanalyze durty diablo—-

        hahahahahahahahahaha, this’ll be interesting…..

        why does he go to prostitutes? maybe cause he has mommy issues and nobody loves him. The simple answer would be to get a dog, but as I am not for animal abuse, I hope he doesn’t as he seems mean. He may be lonely, but he has all of us mocking him and responding to his posts to take care of that. He secretly craves attention. If it was only sex, he could probably find other ways or even if prostitutes was his only option, he wouldn’t have to brag about it. No, he brags for other reasons…

        One might think he is doing this for validation. He is hoping others will approve of his actions. This does not seem to be the case–see the derisive comments and how he always comes back for more. Perhaps he is doing this for empathy and he wants to give other men who face involuntary celibacy options on how to deal with their situation. I think not, see above why he shouldn’t have a dog–he seems mean. He would gleefully laugh at other males misfortune.

        Interestingly enough, Brett Stevens has an article discussing Feelings and saying they are unimportant. Well, feelings dominate the world of hideous Diablo. He often talks in what is in my estimation an covetous voice about sociopaths. He only wishes he could be calm, collected and heartless as they are. He is petty, envious and irascible-still this is not the core driving emotion. Our “beloved” blogger is driven by resentment.

        Yes, resentment. Money is of little consequence to vindictive Diablo, he has whatever overpaying techie type job smelly guys with poor social skills and overpriced degrees get these days. He gladly parts with his cash to gain access to vaginas and whatever other orifices he may partake in. Perhaps he found being rejected by girls a soul crushing experience. Perhaps it was a blow to his fragile ego and tattered self-esteem. Perhaps many of us could empathize, but he chooses to alienate potential allies. He parts with money to hook up with women to avoid being made fun of to his face. Even though they surely make fun of him after he pays, he cares little. But it is resentment that brings him back again and again. Since he is paying these women often large sums, he is actually on the losing side of this interaction. He is really quite powerless in many ways. Haha, impotent is a word that might come to mind but he buys pills to take care of that-yes I did read his posts about boner pills and how to get a prescription…

        Quoted from the Great Wiki:

        “Robert C. Solomon, a professor of continental philosophy at the University of Texas at Austin, places resentment on the same line-continuum with contempt and anger. According to him, the differences between the three emotions are as follows: resentment is directed towards higher-status individuals, anger is directed towards equal-status individuals and contempt is directed towards lower-status individuals.”

        Now, look at the responses to his posts. The word pathetic comes up allot. This would suggest his low status despite high education. He is worthy of contempt. Why is this so? He keeps on blabbering about the same slights weather real or imagined. He is such a hostile, despicable character as to prevent us from feeling sympathy for his misfortune and lousy lot in life. He reminds us of part of ourselves that isn’t so kind. It is the part that see’s a car wreck and instead of looking out and thinking “I hope he is alright”–it brings out something a little darker. It brings out that part of us that says, “Poor bastard, better him than me.”

        Now of the more perceptive among us, you may see the negative feedback loop we are in. Diablo craves our attention. We get to look upon his wretchedness and feel better about ourselves if even only fleetingly. Diablo feels worse, thus buying more sex in an attempt to feel better. Then he writes more and we respond more. The ethical thing to do would be to ignore his rantings and ravings. Surely we are not ethical folks in these parts-we enable Diablo in his downward spiral and damnit, it is fun!

      • December 19, 2011 at 8:23 am

        actually, he does a good job of pissing of the neo nazi’s and for that I am glad……

      • Ray Manta
        December 19, 2011 at 9:55 am

        stonerwithaboner wrote about A.D. :
        He often talks in what is in my estimation an covetous voice about sociopaths. He only wishes he could be calm, collected and heartless as they are.

        But wouldn’t Diablo stop being Diablo if his passions were removed? Sociopaths have an oddly insectile or reptilian cast – it’s if their emotional landscape have been whittled down to the bare minimum. All the rest is just play-acting.

        The video below might be instructive. In 2008, Jodi Arias shot her boyfriend Travis Alexander in the face and then stabbed him 27 times. Note the indifference to the fact of his death and the flatness of affect. Her greatest concern was how she appeared on her mug shot.

        http://www.tv.com/video/10464748/48-hours–jodi-arias-speaks-out

        This is the type of person he admires and wants to emulate. Is there even a single redeeming feature about her?

  8. December 18, 2011 at 9:09 am

    AD, there is one fundamental issue that is still to be resolved and for which I haven’t found a solution. It is the following: knowing a priori that all males need spermic release because otherwise this will lead to suffering, what are the best ways of spermic release that will keep balance within a certain human gathering?

    • December 18, 2011 at 9:14 am

      What I see in this case is that masturbation can never be a solution because of one simple logical question that will keep manifesting itself in the brains of males: “Why masturbate if there is no lack of females?”

      • Matt Strictland
        December 18, 2011 at 12:42 pm

        Legalized Prostitution in a system of Social Credit solves two problems at once.

        If a person can’t score sex they can than buy it risk free and if they always have an opt-in (i.e money) they can buy it from time to time as needed.

        Social Credit forces a degree of equality into the economic system and some aspects of game can train men to be a bit more desirable to women increasing the quality and quantity of sex closer to their desired level.

        Of course of society collapses as brittle as it is, we may end up back in marriage .5 as the Trad-Cons want as the technical infrastructure required to support things like office jobs and birth control may no longer exist. Its not a divine apocalypse, only a natural outcome of when systems grow too complex.

      • December 18, 2011 at 2:59 pm

        The main problem is who is going to breed all those prostitutes? You can’t expect families to breed prostitutes for the sake of males. Most prostitutes are doing this work for financial support. Now, in a system where everybody in need is supported by the governor, you will find few women needing to prostitute themselves.

      • Ray Manta
        December 18, 2011 at 4:16 pm

        Nestorius wrote:
        The main problem is who is going to breed all those prostitutes?

        You don’t need them if you have full-immersion VR porn or sex robots. They’ll be able to supply the girlfriend experience to men and end sexual scarcity.

  9. Matt Strictland
    December 18, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Nestorius :
    The main problem is who is going to breed all those prostitutes? You can’t expect families to breed prostitutes for the sake of males. Most prostitutes are doing this work for financial support. Now, in a system where everybody in need is supported by the governor, you will find few women needing to prostitute themselves.

    I know you resent the idea of Social Credit but if you want a 1st world country with any degree of economic freedom its the only way you are going to have it. As technology increases, jobs decrease If you do not you either get the rich/poor dysfunction of the Social Democratic Welfare State or all the delights and charms of a 3rd world police state (like we are starting to have now) thrust into a world where things like bio-labs are cheap and common enough for the poor to have them.

    Distribute or lose your society, pick one and only one and choose wisely.

    As to the issue at hand people always want more money and as such quite a few women (and men) are liable to engage in sex work from time to time as a supplemental. After all Social Credit is not going to be able to provide more than “survival” for some time.

    If that doesn’t happen, well we won’t be worse off than we are now will we.

    • Ray Manta
      December 18, 2011 at 9:25 pm

      Matt Strictland wrote:
      As technology increases, jobs decrease

      Yes, we’re reaching a point where automation will be removing more jobs than creating them.
      The long term solution will be to give people a monthly income whether or not they’re employed. There’s no reason why we can’t do that while encouraging as many people as possible to engage in entrepreneurial or other socially beneficial activities.

      The alternative is vast concentrations of wealth in the hands of a few and stalled innovation.

      (about Manorialism 2.0)
      This is a meritorious position and one I quite like but it has a major downside, it simply cannot support large heavily industrial societies. Such self contained societies produce little surplus wealth and without that surplus, much of the civilization we have cannot be paid for.

      That may eventually change. Innovations in manufacturing and nanotech may foster independence and allow smaller, more independent, but still wealthy societies.

  10. Matt Strictland
    December 18, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    I’ll add something here. A fair amount of people think we should simply move to smaller more resilient communities that are mostly self sufficient . Manorialism 2.0 if you like. This is a meritorious position and one I quite like but it has a major downside, it simply cannot support large heavily industrial societies.

    Such self contained societies produce little surplus wealth and without that surplus, much of the civilization we have cannot be paid for.

    Much less market for goods (its all local) little trade and the educational and entertainment advantages of the modern metro are over rated. How we move to Manorialism 2.0 to “A few cities and tons of RC’s” without a massive dieback is beyond my knowledge.

  11. Chris
    December 18, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    The dumbest thing i’ve read in the HBD sphere : since obviously money is connected to iq (everyone knows that ! ) it means Oprah has an iq of 140.I remember a whole discussion abou it with people claiming thats she’s 140 and a few contrarians saying she’s closer to 120.I decided shortly after that to avoid those blogs from now on…

  12. No Show
    December 19, 2011 at 5:25 am

    Whether is Piggy, Mangy, Half-Shitma, 1STD or that Vox guy- the “alt-right” world view goes something like this..

    Having read these guys of and on for a while I think you are willfully misrepresenting them to fit your own prejudices.

    The old ways are good Not always.

    and old “knowledge” is true and eternal. No

    ‘IQ’ tests are relevant Obviously

    and democracy is dysgenic. Democracy doesn’t force reproduction on people.

    Authoritarianism is good Most don’t believe this.

    and life is unfair. Obviously

    So called experts are actually knowledgeable and education at “elite” institutions is somehow superior to learning the same material elsewhere. No

    Only gold is money and deflation is good. ?

    Whites are angels and blacks are subhuman etc.. Not the view of ANY of them.

    Why misrepresent these guys this way? Their views are anti-mainstream/polite society/SWPL/Nice White Lady as it is. Why turn them into cartoon characters? Is it because you are East Indian and you think they think you are dirty and Third World?

    You seem to have more than a touch of Aspergy/autism spectrum like tendencies.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  13. Senior Manchild
    December 19, 2011 at 8:49 am

    From first commenter,

    ¨That gives us George Soldini¨

    I haven´t read the post or the comments beyond the first, but here is the thing

    George Soldini gives us George Soldini,

    I read his writings that I could easily enough find on the web.

    Do you realize that George died a resonably wealthy, reasonably good shape, reasonably young, largely teetotaler and probably way too caught up in the small-time slutting it up of younger women.

    Maybe a victim of his times but not even really that.

    If George wanted to get his dick wet or relieve some of the pressures in his life, there were outs instead of letting all these pressures build and manifest themselves in such extreme hate towards women. George is a victim of George.

    Don´t live like he did on the verge of 2012

  14. Senior Manchild
    December 19, 2011 at 9:34 am

    AD,

    You sure are a passionate devil.

    I like to read piggy, he doesn´t seem to be so conservative; he seems to be looking for the answers like I think you are to. Being an economist, I like how he approaches the issues that he takes on, but he also delves into the issues from a psychological and sociological standpoint( as if economics doesn´t affect the others or vice-versa). The other bloggers I have only fleeting notice of.

    There seems to have been way too much misguided moralizing to your piece over at Inmalafide.

    Sometimes I don´t know why I read Inmalafide, but then Ferdinand shows up and makes me remember again; as he did in your piece. I don´t always fully agree with him, but he can cut through the bull-shit better than most people.

    Men are beasts. Women tame beasts.

    but now, women are beasts and men are trying to tame them, hmmmmmm?

    If we ever are going to get back to where we were again( if we really want to), it will not probably be through supplicating in the old ways.

    Men should probably meet the selfishness of modern women with a selfishness that scares the hell out of them; bring out a little more of that cave-man.

    Me want, me want, me want, me fuckin´want. Me go- after.

  15. Senior Manchild
    December 19, 2011 at 9:45 am

    the old-ways were not really as much altruistic as they were practical, safe, very balanced, and self-serving. They really served men and women. Men and women clung to the old ways out of self, so if one group is too much self the other group must be more about self also, so that the old-ways regain their luster to the initial excessive self group.

    So, what easier way is there. It´s not like pursuing self ruthlessly is so difficult.

  16. Senior Manchild
    December 19, 2011 at 9:55 am

    And goddammit,

    I hope you get laid. Go out there and do everything short of what puts you in danger boy. Go to fuckin thailand if you have to. You seem to know how to manage your money, you can figure out someway as you probably have already. Any of these fuckin prudes that say otherwise can go to hell. You will be part of that selfishness to meet selfishness that I am talking about. The world will never find it´s balance if too many of these extremists suplicators take-over.

  17. Ray Manta
    December 19, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Senior Manchild wrote:
    Men should probably meet the selfishness of modern women with a selfishness that scares the hell out of them; bring out a little more of that cave-man.

    Lisa Sliwa (ex-wife of Curtis Sliwa, founder of the do-gooder Guardian Angels organization and all-around slimeball) once said something about how badass women are and how you never want one really angry with you. I’d bet $$$ that if she ever had to deal with a truly enraged man who had no scruples about harming her she’d shit herself and run screaming for protection.

    the old-ways were not really as much altruistic as they were practical, safe, very balanced, and self-serving. They really served men and women

    Yep, one hand washed the other and there was gender complementarity.

  18. Senior Manchild
    December 19, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    people in the past, preserved the traditional for so long because it was the form that collectively served the individuals best not so much because of individuals serving the collective.

    people have always been about self by and large and the traditional monogamous family was maybe not good for every individual but nothing else has ever given the greatest good to the most people as this form.

    Now, what we seem to have is men serving women. Well,

    most of you all. If you all were more like me, the incredible selfishness that is modern western woman would have ended years ago.

  19. Matt Strictland
    December 19, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Ray Manta :

    (about Manorialism 2.0)
    This is a meritorious position and one I quite like but it has a major downside, it simply cannot support large heavily industrial societies. Such self contained societies produce little surplus wealth and without that surplus, much of the civilization we have cannot be paid for.
    That may eventually change. Innovations in manufacturing and nanotech may foster independence and allow smaller, more independent, but still wealthy societies.

    True. The issue is not the generation of wealth. Most people have more than enough anyway and if they ghave durable useful goods they enjoy , they will be wealthier than people are now.

    Current technology can produce long lasting superior goods, cheaply. Its just doesn’t because quaility is not profitable.

    whats lost is The issue is trade surplus.

    An RC that makes most of what it needs does not make more than what it needs and as such the various middlemen (traders, the larger state, stock brokers and such) have little place in it.

    Without the extra money and wealth to tap, projects that depend on that as well as a myriad of jobs will not exist.

    had the US been entirely made of RC’s with few things shipped, its doubtful we’d have the Interstate Highway, The Internet, The Space Program or a host of the things good and bad that make modern society, well modern.

    The reason is simply, there is little extra to tax and any taxes cut directly into standard of living and as such will be resisted.

  20. December 19, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Ray Manta :
    stonerwithaboner wrote about A.D. :
    He often talks in what is in my estimation an covetous voice about sociopaths. He only wishes he could be calm, collected and heartless as they are.
    But wouldn’t Diablo stop being Diablo if his passions were removed? Sociopaths have an oddly insectile or reptilian cast – it’s if their emotional landscape have been whittled down to the bare minimum. All the rest is just play-acting.
    The video below might be instructive. In 2008, Jodi Arias shot her boyfriend Travis Alexander in the face and then stabbed him 27 times. Note the indifference to the fact of his death and the flatness of affect. Her greatest concern was how she appeared on her mug shot.
    http://www.tv.com/video/10464748/48-hours–jodi-arias-speaks-out
    This is the type of person he admires and wants to emulate. Is there even a single redeeming feature about her?

    I watched the video…there was definitely something “off” about her. I don’t know if she is or isn’t a sociopath. Dr. Robert Hare who is an expert gets conned by those types all the time….

    • Ray Manta
      December 19, 2011 at 7:20 pm

      Many others have noticed the same thing. In Diablo’s post on sociopaths in IMF, I commented about how serial murderer Dana Sue Gray appeared to those who examined her as if she was “guessing” about appropriate emotional responses to their questioning. It was like camouflage she could take on and off at will instead of anything genuinely felt. I got a feeling of Deja Vu when I read about Arias’s case and then saw the video.

      So far as I know, her ex-boyfriend is the only person that Arias ever killed. Gray is documented as murdering three elderly women and attempting to kill a fourth. Since before her killing spree she had a job as a nurse (she was fired) there’s the possibility that she had killed many more people and had turned to murder outside of the hospital because she had lost her supply of victims.

      Despite her lack of a previous record, I think it’s telling that almost nobody who knows Arias personally has spoken up for her, not even her own family. One would think in most cases that a young, hot-looking woman would have them lining up to eat out of her hand. Even Raymond Clark (killer of PhD student Annie Le) had his ardent defenders.

  21. December 19, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    diablo seems sloppy with his terminology, using sociopath a bit different than the dictionary…. much like how a Feminist uses “privilege” not how it is in the dictionary to support a worldview only they understand….

    I think he has the concept that they are internally free to do things most of us cannot and he envies that. Look at his mancrush on Brevik-and I don’t know if that guy is a sociopath or merely an evil sort…..

    actually since diablo is overeducated, I think he fully realizes he is not using words along their definitions and only as he sees fit. It is part of his game. We all come back to it, he is secretly loving the attention.

    • Ray Manta
      December 19, 2011 at 8:23 pm

      Agree there about sloppy definitions. Classic sociopaths probably have congenital abnormalities that drive their bizarre behavior. Most of the people he labels as sociopaths have no such convenient excuse.

      Look at his mancrush on Brevik-and I don’t know if that guy is a sociopath or merely an evil sort…..

      I seriously doubt it. Sociopaths are distinguished by a short time horizon and impulsive behavior. Breivik’s attack was meticulously planned and executed.

      It is part of his game. We all come back to it, he is secretly loving the attention.

      Yep, he’s one heck of an attention whore.

  22. Matt Strictland
    December 19, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    Ray Manta :

    I seriously doubt it. Sociopaths are distinguished by a short time horizon and impulsive behavior. Breivik’s attack was meticulously planned and executed.

    I don’t feel like playing Internet shrink on our host. Its pointless and also rude in my opinion.

    I won’t regard the same as true for Breivik , its still pointless but a mass murder is entitled to no courtesy.

    Breivik was not crazy, he was a political killer who rationally selected what he perceived to be high value targets (the offspring of his enemies) made a plan to kill them and than carried it out.

    Thats not crazy but it might be evil depending on opinion. I don’t like it though I will say were there hundreds like him, no society would long survive it.

    • Ray Manta
      December 20, 2011 at 4:11 am

      Matt Strictland wrote:
      I don’t feel like playing Internet shrink on our host. Its pointless and also rude in my opinion

      Rude? He’s getting valuable feedback about the cracks in his moral universe. Plus I suspect he loves the attention. He can always tell me to knock it off or kick me off his blog if he feels otherwise.

      (about Breivik):
      I will say were there hundreds like him, no society would long survive it.

      If that comes about, we are done, done, and done. Men like Breivik are normally restrained by their high degree of self-control and moral awareness. If they choose to disregard those restrictions, they’re an incredibly dangerous enemy.

  23. Matt Strictland
    December 19, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Ray Manta :

    Yep, he’s one heck of an attention whore.

    Nothing wrong with that . Its what blogs are for for the most part, sharing ideas and a little attention whoring.

    My only wish is that AD could be a bit happier. He is smart as hell and I suspect like a lot of us deserves more than a bit better than he is getting.

    • December 19, 2011 at 11:59 pm

      well, even if it is pay for play-he is getting tons of tail. why feel bad for a player?

      hahahahaha,

      he hasn’t even responded once in his CONdissention boldface….

      maybe he is visiting his mommy for xmas….

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