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Trashing Another CONservative Belief: Race, Income and IQ

As many of you know- I like to mock CONservatives, LIEbertarians and a lot of people who hold “alt right” views. Today I am going to target one of their more cherished beliefs.

You might have noticed that many of the above mentioned morons talk a lot about race, IQ, meritocracy etc with the pretty obvious agenda of suggesting that non-whites are not deserving of a middle-class lifestyle- based on their “low IQ”.

So let us begin the process..

Let us use the USA as a test case for their beliefs. According to government statistics, the median per-capita income of people in the wage earning age range as reported by employers was $26,363.55 in 2010. That is right! Half of wage earners make less than $ 27k/ year.

But here is the problem-

While about 72-73 % of the overall US population is white (hint: add all the “white” categories), the white representation in the working age population (over 18 yrs old) is closer to 80 %. This would imply that at least 1/3 rd of working age whites make less than $ 27k /year. Do you really think that this level of income is sufficient for a middle-class existence?

Moving on.. Did you know that only 25 % of wage earners make more than $ 50k/ year. In my opinion, a traditional middle-class existence in the USA requires a per-worker income around, or above, that level. If you disagree with the above assertion, please tell me how to live a traditional middle-class lifestyle for less than $ 50k /year in the USA- before taxes. Remember to factor in often forgotten items such as adequate health insurance, house taxes, utilities, a little leisure money and some cash for unexpected minor emergencies etc.

Today, a solid middle class existence in the USA requires a pre-tax income of at least $ 70 k/ year before taxes. I am talking about a modest house, modest new car, a few months of savings, good health insurance and enough spare money to take 2-3 weeks of vacations + eat and drink in decent establishments. However only 14 % of wage-earners make more than $ 70 k/ year.

There are those who will say- “but don’t families today have two breadwinners?”

My answer is- Have you looked around you lately? What does the ‘average’ family look like? The majority of marriages end in divorce and a rapidly increasing number of people are not getting married- at all. Many of these newer forms of partnerships (living together without ever getting married) are even more unstable. Now factor in big student loans and the effect of job insecurity and frequent layoffs. To make a long story short.. you are more likely to see the stable two breadwinner, solidly middle-class family in a sitcom than in your real life.

Contrast this picture to a generation, or two, ago when most white families were middle-class and a significant percentage of them were solidly so.

So what changed?

While the percentage of whites in both the general and working age population has decreased over the years, they are still the majority. Though their incomes have stagnated and shrunk as much as other racial groups, they were also at a higher point to start with. The cost of big-item necessities such as healthcare, housing, education etc have however kept on increasing faster than their income. Furthermore they are constantly nickled and dimed by everybody from the HOA, local municipality to corporations and the federal government. To make a long story short-

Most whites have fallen out of the middle-class, especially the large “solidly middle-class” group which was once envied by the rest of the industrialized world.

But how did that happen? If you apply the CONservative, LIEbertarian-esque and “alt-right” beliefs to this situation- one has to conclude that most whites (like over 70%) are not worthy of a middle-class lifestyle based on their IQ, work ethic, moral fiber etc. Which begs the question.. why did it work for them from the 1940s to the 1980s and even part of 1990s? Why then and not now? Did white people in the USA suddenly become dumb and immoral slackers? and how come other western countries such as Germany, France and some eastern ones such as Japan, S. Korea and Taiwan did not suffer a similar shrinkage of their middle-class? Did (or do) they work harder, cheaper or better than Americans?

The other unpleasant possibility is that most white middle-class morons gleefully cooperated with the “elites” to kill the golden egg-laying goose so that they would not to share it with non-whites. It is too bad that their beloved “elites’ saw pauperizing and abusing non-whites as the first, rather than the last, step.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. Deadly Guy
    December 30, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    Don’t humor those “alt-right” idiots. Simple everyday experience/common sense is sufficient enough to refute their ideas.

  2. December 30, 2011 at 5:54 pm


    the white power guys don’t tend to be all that bright and just want to blame anyone of a different color for their problems. Ironic how they talk about white unity and they got sold out by people of their own color. Oh, and not to play “identity politics” but I’m mixed or as allot of the assdouches in the manosphere love to say, a walking, blogging mistake of miscegenation or merely a “halfbreed” for short. They’ve got more in common with the Feminists than anything else…..

  3. jj
    December 30, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    I think that you’re a silly bigot and you need help.

    • December 30, 2011 at 6:17 pm

      diablo is a bigot and a jerk, however this is one of his better posts for sure….

  4. Conquistador
    December 30, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Whites are responsible for their own decline in two ways. The first being their support for CONservative economic idiocy. The second being their embrace of feminism. Women entering the workforce doubled the labor pool meaning they compete for jobs but don’t create any. Graduating with degrees in gender and queer studies doesn’t produce innovation or new industries.

  5. Conquistador
    December 30, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    Many whites I know are also lazy, decadent, and morally lacking, particularly the younger generation. The self esteem crap they were brought up with has done irreparable damage.

  6. Remo
    December 30, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Take a step back and ask the big question – take a society of just white people (or mostly white people) and take a society of just black people (or mostly black people). Who does better in terms of crime, discovery, wealth, technology, and standard of living? This is the question that is being asked. Looking at poorer whites with a microscope does not prove that blacks and whites are equal and interchangeable which is what you imply. Sure if I compare the best and brightest black person with the worst serial murderer/rapist white I get a very pleasing Jesse Jackson approved comparison but we don’t live by exceptions which is again what you’re implying. In the 1930’s we had lots of poor whites who did NOT have astoundingly high rates for murder and mayhem which directly effect quality of life. They did not riot and destroy their own neighborhoods to the extent that blacks do. I’m waiting for the “what about prohibition” and John Dillinger counter to wit I can point at *thousands* of black murders on a year over year basis – separate incidents – not one person going nuts. That is the picture you want to look at – what is the average across the population.

    Then there is the poverty question. Is a computer science graduate who works at Starbucks BUT IS POOR RIGHT NOW AT THIS VERY INSTANT on par with a thrice paroled gang banger from the hood? Who is more likely to move up? Who is more likely to stay that way? To answer this question you have to look at multi-year spans not point in time snapshots. A Harvard graduate is just as poor as a prison inmate in terms of income the day before he starts his new job. You want a big picture? Fine – look at a mostly white city that became a mostly black city. There are several to choose from in the U.S…. what happened? Oh that be whitey’s fault too right? In EVERY case? The white man be racyiss and sheeeet because they move out and leave the city to the brothers who destroy the city then cry racyiss!!!!?? That *IS* the pattern. Show me one, just one, a single solitary example of a well run black country at ANY point in time. You won’t find one and it isn’t the white man’s fault. Facts be racyiss and sheeet but they are still facts and they won’t change because some sheep bleats out racyiss!!! racyiss!!! racyisss!!!!!!!

  7. Deadly Guy
    December 30, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    “Show me one, just one, a single solitary example of a well run black country at ANY point in time”

    That’s easy.


    IN fact, pretty much most of the British West Indies is black and fairly well run. A few countries in Africa are decently run.

    Kinda kicks your “blacks be dumb” theory in the nuts huh?

    • Remo
      January 1, 2012 at 4:37 am

      According to the chart on the page you quote Botswana has a lower life expectancy from birth than Uganda, Zimbabwe, Kenya, and South Africa. So I guess if you have “…one of the most sparsely populated countries in the world.” mixed with a life expectancy <40 years you have a well run black country? The place is great so long as you don't mind dying before you hit 40 years? Such progress!

  8. marlon
    December 31, 2011 at 4:00 am

    “IN fact, pretty much most of the British West Indies is black and fairly well run. A few countries in Africa are decently run.”

    Trinidad has oil, and Barbados and the small eastern caribbean islands are well run. Cayman and the Bahamas have majority black populations but blacks are not in charge there. If the embargo is lifted on Cuba, they may do very well, as their people are a disciplined bunch.

    I know of Jamaicans who worked and lived in Botswana – they didn’t stay, citing poor conditions. A few famous Jamaican singers have bought land in Ghana, so it would be interesting to know how Ghana is.

    But the point made earlier stands. The well-run black country is the exception not the rule.

    • Pravda
      January 1, 2012 at 5:20 am

      Ad let’s not forget that these countries were former British colonies that had their foundation in British government. Many have gne downhill frm 50 years ago when they became independent.

  9. webe
    December 31, 2011 at 5:06 am

    It is politically incorrect, but the price of housing everywhere in the West has skyrocketed since women moved into the work force. Obvious case of supply/demand (land and existing housing is 100% inelastic).
    Women in the work force have also concentrated wealth and poverty: a lot of “families” are either two-income or zero-income: the better paying jobs go to women from better-situated milieus, leaving less for the lower segment.
    I’m not even pointing this out as an argument against feminism, just a connection which it is “illegal” to point out or explore.

    What amuses me most about blaming people’s unemployment or low-income on their laziness and lack of intelligence is that all of this was said in the thirties depression as well. Then too, people argued against the dole because it would serve to lower people’s motivation and spoil their character. Strange thing is that all these lazy bums spontaneously became model middle-class citizens in the fifties. This game has been repeated ad infinitum by the “better” classes throughout history with respect to their uncouth “inferiors”.

  10. Deadly Guy
    December 31, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    marlon :
    . The well-run black country is the exception not the rule.

    Thoughtless argument.

    The ancient Egyptians and Nubians would probably remark that a well run “white country” was the exception, not the norm. Meanwhile, well run black countries were the norm.

    Really there were no “white countries” because whites were separated into primitive tribes. The very phenomenon of a “white” country or “civilization” is fairly recent.

    • Pravda
      January 1, 2012 at 4:50 am

      There seems to be a lot of miscnceptions by our Negro brethren about the racial composition of the Ancient Egyptians. They were a Caucasian race and were always included as part of Western civilisation and although it took 3k years of change the majority of people there today are still Caucasian. The ancient Egyptians along with the peoples of N Africa, Europe and Western Asia were all Caucasian and were all part of the Old European group some of whom lived in the south from the last ice age. The so called Negro race was a handful of people on the WEST coast of Africa 10k years ago when the pop. of the earth was 1m and all were Caucasian. It took 1000’s of years before their populatin increased and they migrated across Africa to the east. And no, I am not one of these white power morons but I think you should get your facts straight. And this “out of Africa” theory of 100k years ago does not mean that the people were Negroes but were likely just migrating Caucasians as a result of climate changes. 100k years ago wouldn’t even make sense because the oldest Human ftprints are found in Italy and they are 350k years old.

    • Remo
      January 1, 2012 at 4:52 am

      The ancient Egyptians were not nubians so its unlikely that they’d argue such. The paintings on the mummies do not sport African features of very dark skin, broad noses, and larger lips. Paintings? Yes they used to sometimes put paintings of the deceased face onto the tops of the sarcophagus – there were not black. And black people didn’t used to be able to fly either – sorry.

  11. Conquistador
    January 1, 2012 at 12:40 am

    Regardless of how recent it is white/western civilization has produced more innovation in the last five hundred years than any other group in history.

    • Pravda
      January 1, 2012 at 4:44 pm

      White civilisation is the oldest real civilisation on earth that we know of and even the ancient civilisatins in India,Asia, Iran etc were all derived from the Indo European Aryan ( a subgroup of white people who originated N of the Black Sea) settlers there. 10k years ago when the pop. of the earth was 1 m they were all lCaucasian with perhaps a handful of Negroes on the west coast of Africa and another handful in the Far East.
      And btw, if you look at those pictures of Ancient Egyptians which incidently are not even the oldest you will see that the females are quite white while the men look reddish. It’s how they represented a man with a suntan while females of the upper classes stayed out of the sun.
      I have thing agaist any person but I’m tired of all this distortion of history, ignorance and propaganda just to make certain groups feel good about themselves. Also, the American Negro came from the west coast which is on the other side of Africa (3x the size of the US) and is no relation to the people in the east. There’s plenty of diversity too in Africa just among the peoples we refer to as the Negro race(a very broad and general category)

  12. Hard Right
    January 1, 2012 at 5:07 am

    The average IQ in India is 82. Thanks for demonstrating why.

  13. January 1, 2012 at 8:07 am

    When we spread the wealth around, it becomes harder for anyone to have any. The working people of America are supporting a vast raft of parsites, not all of whom are non-white. Many of the parasites in fact are working, just in do-nothing jobs for which they expect good compensation.

    • January 1, 2012 at 10:35 am

      Paper money is not wealth.

  14. Conquistador
    January 1, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    Hard Right :
    The average IQ in India is 82. Thanks for demonstrating why.

    Why don’t you address his points instead? You CONservative faggots hate AD but never manage to rebuke what he says.

  15. Conquistador
    January 1, 2012 at 2:15 pm

    I meant refute not rebuke.

  16. Deadly Guy
    January 1, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    Pravda :
    Ad let’s not forget that these countries were former British colonies that had their foundation in British government. Many have gne downhill frm 50 years ago when they became independent.

    Downhill? By increasing living standards and GDP’s? Haha.

    Keep it coming retards.

    • Pravda
      January 1, 2012 at 4:55 pm

      Technology from the White man has reached all places on earth so that even in the most backward areas you’ll find TV’s, computers, cellphones and running water, living standards etc
      None of this has anything to do with with the people in these backwards areas and has all been brought to them to use.

      • P Ray
        September 8, 2012 at 7:58 pm

        None of this has anything to do with with the people in these backwards areas and has all been brought to them to use.
        At higher than market prices if you go by forex conversion rates, to bring profit to companies.
        If you can’t make money in your own country selling high-tech things, you market them overseas for a bigger margin.
        No conspiracy behind it, people willing to pay more, have choices.

  17. Deadly Guy
    January 1, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Look at how all of you evade the real issue. Now your turning this into another non-sense “race of the Egyptians” debate.

    Here’s a thought experiment my pink-skinned friends:

    Imagine dropping a Swedish person in the middle of ancient Thebes. Just like in the paintings. Will he “fit in” or stick out like a sore thumb? It’s not rocket science to know the answer to this.

    How many “well run” white countries existed in 2000 B.C.? Dumbfounded (no pun intended)?

    The only way whites can argue this point is by trying (and failing miserably) to inject themselves somehow into Ancient Egypt. Usually through some “Caucasoid” ploy. Never mind the fact that indigenous groups in East Africa often have naturally occurring “caucasian” features.

    But I digress. I could at least name a couple well run black countries at a time when “white” countries didn’t even exist. Beat that Nazi wannabes.

    Conquistador :
    Regardless of how recent it is white/western civilization has produced more innovation in the last five hundred years than any other group in history.

    That begs the question, if they were so smart, why didn’t whites create it earlier? Why did it take them until recently to do it?

  18. Pravda
    January 1, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Guy, you know your problem? You’re a typical US Negro who knows next to nothing. Afew hundred years ago when European scientists began really classifying plants, animals etc they also broke the human races (groups) down into 5 large and very broad categories. Sure, if I wanted to I could probably break those general groups down even further into thousands of groups. So when we say someone is part of the Caucasian or Negro or Mongol group we mean that he best fits into that category more than he fits into the other categories. And I can assure you that ancient Egyptians fit into the Caucasian category more than they will ever fit into the Negro or Mongol group. Modern genetic markers today prove this too.
    Another thing that confuses US Negroes where at least 50% are actually mixed breeds like Obama is that they are not typical of the their ancestor’s group from the west coast of Africa and have some desireable Caucasian traits themselves which is why their IQ is higher. While it will never be as high in general as a White which is why they can’t compete well in the US it is still higher than a black African from the west.

  19. Pravda
    January 1, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    Imagine dropping a Swedish person in the middle of ancient Thebes

    Ancient Thebes? He’d fit right in. And btw, most Swedes don’t even look like this Hollywood version you have in your “mind” I realise that most Negreso have never been anywhere and watch a lot of TV (you never see them with a book like whites or asians) but you really have a distorted version of things. Probably because guys like Tigger Woods (who made his money hitting a little ball around with a stick) found himself the palest blondest white girl around. And if Negroes were so good why didn’t he get a black girl with a big bootay and junk in the trunk? Or a Hyundai instead of a Bentley? Even his Hos were white lol Everyone knws which things are of higher or lower quality and even those hot “black” girls are really only part black and would not even be refered to as Negroes outside the US

  20. Matt Strictland
    January 1, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    The US system works somewhat better for Whites as they have higher average IQ’s and better impulse control but being better endowed in those areas than other groups (as almost all Whites,most Semites and Asians are) does not guarantee success especially in a rigged system.

    The US socio-economic system itself is broken and as such it cannot work well for anyone save 11% or so till fixed.

    Even so, such repairs are going to be very hard to do. When a system is built in which traits that only a few can possess (brains, social skills, and wealth) are needed for success, its inherently unstable. At most it might be made to work for half the population for a while and this would require a radically different social configuration more akin to social democracy and closed borders neither of which are acceptable.

    Building in something akin to social credit and letting fly won’t help indefinitely either as it creates dysgenic behaviors.

    Even if you could do it politically (and its not possible) a system that gene sampled and tested every citizen and controlled reproduction would not work either. The march of technology means that every year less people are needed by any measure.

    The best solution I think is to gradually eliminate the current Urban civilization and roll back to a small Federal system and smaller, stable, self contained homogeneous networked communities with a smaller population base. This is intentionally less efficient of course but it build more stability into the system.

  21. faul sname
    January 17, 2012 at 1:14 am

    The “decline” of America is due to nothing more than an unreasonably high baseline. In the 1950s, America was the only industrialized nation that wasn’t rebuilding from WWII. The average American had enormous value as a producer, and so the “middle class” lifestyle was born. You will not find this situation at the scale of hundreds of millions of people anywhere else in history.

    That decline that people are trying to blame various groups for is nothing more than regression to the mean.

    • May 12, 2017 at 6:37 pm

      Perhaps oversimplified, but, essentially, YES.

  22. January 19, 2013 at 11:07 pm

    Not to discount others’ explanations because I haven’t read them. But the definition of “middle class lifestyle” has changed. In the 1960’s and 70’s, the average house was 1400 sq feet with 3 bedroom and 1 bathroom. Most families had 1 car and rarely ate out. Today the average house is 3,200 sq feet and most families have 2 or 3 cars, cable and cell phone bills that run hundreds of dollars, etc. It’s easy to live a middle class lifestyle on what people are earning today. But to do it you have to live the old middle class lifestyle..

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