Skynet, Anybody?

I saw an interesting post on gizmodo.com about the consequences of increased use of drones and robots in wars. Anyway, the centerpiece of that post was a documentary by Al Jazeera about that issue. It is somewhat ironic that a news organization called Al Jazeera based in a somewhat benevolent totalitarian regime, does real journalism- unlike the so-called free press in western countries.

In any case, have a look. I am working on two or three longish posts at this moment.

Comments?

  1. Matt Strictland
    January 23, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    The real danger is not just the US having it, thats bad enough but proliferation. What happens if any nation can tag the important people in any other nation pretty much at will?

    The cost of AA defenses and the constant intrusive state is crippling.

    Also such technology can be used by non state actors as well, “terror” groups, narco-trafs all that.

    Its not like the tech can be kept under wraps forever and while its unlikely the non state actors will have as capable drones, they don’t need them to attack say the kids of a political figure they don’t like in their own front yard. Slip an other-people-stani kill drone into Mexico and take out whoever. Even if the attack fails it wins as the terror provoked could cripple.

    Defense spending is never about making people safer. It is about making more money through conflict or the threat of conflict.

    the 9-11 attacks cost very little for what they gained

    And with nukes and germ warfare guaranteed to proliferate in response, the old “try this and we’ll nuke you solution” becomes a lot harder to enforce on a nation state level.

    My suspicion is that it could very well unravel a good chunk of the post Westphalian world and lead to a degree of almost mandated isolation and distrust.

    If we are unlucky it may provoke a big showdown.

    This will go on for a while I am afraid until the oil runs out and well after the die back, this tech will be artifacts.

  2. Matt Strictland
    January 23, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    I forgot something, the real game changer tech here is precision.

    If that tech gets democratized and combined with decent range, thats a game changer.

    When its perfectly possible for even a small player to target vital assets in a county, especially people, thats very big

    The US in particular has had the protection of the oceans since about 1812 and once thats eroded its going to have profound effects on our society. 9-11 was a good example but given our internal contradictions I don’t think US society can survive a lot of that.

    As for domestic use of these , its a potent tool but it risks major blow back and I predict that with excess use a whole lot people in that industry and who ordered it will end up with bad things happening to them and theirs.

    But they are so eager to hang themselves.

    • Matt Strictland
      January 23, 2012 at 8:14 pm

      You know something A.D. I am White guy (as if the name wasn’t enough giveaway) but there are times I think we ought to chip in and get them some rope.

      As to what you said about defense spending, yeppers.

      • hans
        January 23, 2012 at 10:17 pm

        It´s brainwashed ´merican fucks like you that just aren´t able to learn from your own fucking history (Gulf of Tonkin, USS Liberty, “real”9-11), and thus will happily give up all your freedoms and plunge the whole world into the 3rd WW because of this ridiculous “safety boondoggle”.

        It´s usually cunts that crave safety and elevate it above everything else. The US has long since stopped being a country and is now only a “cuntry”.

  3. J
    January 23, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    In other news, AD might be interested in this set of data:

    Why East Asians are so unconscientious and disagreeable

    excerpt:

    When I first saw results like these I was a bit puzzled too, but then I reflected on my extensive contact with East Asians over the years, and it didn’t seem so odd. They aren’t violent and don’t get in your face, so we assume they’re agreeable. In reality, they are autistic or misanthropic, they just don’t let it show.

  4. Matt Strictland
    January 24, 2012 at 11:11 am

    hans :
    It´s brainwashed ´merican fucks like you that just aren´t able to learn from your own fucking history (Gulf of Tonkin, USS Liberty, “real”9-11), and thus will happily give up all your freedoms and plunge the whole world into the 3rd WW because of this ridiculous “safety boondoggle”.
    It´s usually cunts that crave safety and elevate it above everything else. The US has long since stopped being a country and is now only a “cuntry”.

    Under normal circumstances I’d have some jingoistic reaction and rush to my countries defense but what you said is sadly true.

  5. hans
    January 25, 2012 at 1:10 am

    http://www.youtu.be/hk3Bbyx-mxg

    One of many, it seems.

  6. Matt Strictland
    January 26, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    hans :
    Then I´m happy to have misjudged your brainwashing “levels” and encourage you to start digging through the all-prevailing disinfo.
    Here are good starts:
    http://www.fredoneverything.net/
    http://www.jmccsci.com/
    http://educate-yourself.org (maybe

    Fred is on my regular reading list actually. Ill sort through the pseudo science and check out the others though. Thanks.

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