Significant Social Change Requires Large Scale Geronticide

Over the years, I have read a lot of books on history from various sources. Based on what I have read and seen in real life, it is obvious that history is really an account of human folly, magical thinking and stupidity. But how could so many people act like such fucking idiots for hundreds, if not thousands, of years?

I have always found it hard to believe that every single person in a tribe, village, town, city, state or empire was stupid. The range of human variability seen in families would necessitate some people in the aggregation to be significantly less stupid than others. But how does that explain the ability of stupidity and bad decisions to perpetuate themselves?

Some of you might say that the overall direction of a society would be determined by the actions of the stupid majority who drown out the not-so stupid people. But that is not so today, nor was it probably ever the case. Look around you- how many people invented all the components of the personal computer, internet or even printing and writing. That is right.. a miniscule minority of people did those things and changed society forever. So it is clear that a profitable idea proposed by a miniscule number of people can have massive effects on human societies. Furthermore most people are not particularly stupid, greedy or short-sighted. Indeed they are fairly rational and decent.

So how do you get so much folly, magical thinking and stupidity from groups of people who are not that stupid?

I have a theory to explain this paradox that does not rely on abstract academic bullshit. It has to do with the way societies have been organized, human ego and mental limitations. To better understand how I came to this conclusion, let us look at a rather interesting feature of human history.

All large-scale changes in human history require the death, or discrediting, of old people and their ideas. Whether the deaths are from natural or unnatural causes is irrelevant.

I believe that the problem stems from the fact that human hierarchies are based on age. Therefore the person who heads any organization is probably an older person who benefits from the current setup and the people directly under him are slightly younger cronies who too benefit from the status quo. Since these people live reasonably comfortable lives with lots of power in their own little dung-heaps, they have absolutely no interest in improving things or changing the status quo. Indeed their position is weakened by anything that improves the lives of those under them. Now factor in things like human ego and mental limitations and it is easy to see how older people with any worthwhile amount of power will abuse the rest to get a good deal in the short-term, regardless of its impact on the long-term or everybody else. As I have mentioned in a previous post, the pyramidal age structure of human societies through most of human history also allowed the some older people to screw everybody else. It is now easy to see how bad or hubris ridden decisions made by the older people in power, with an eye on maintaining it, can screw up things for everyone else- including eventually themselves.

So how can we change this? and why now? The answer lies in the ongoing global collapse of fertility which has deprived the powerful older morons of their supply of naive idiots to abuse and dispose. We also live in an era where it is much easier to spread information and ideas that are controversial.

The message that has to spread is that older people with any worthwhile amount of power are bad for everyone else and must be terminated- by any and all means. Note that I said older people WITH power- not just older people or old people as I am not suggesting that we just off people over a certain age. The idea is to get rid of older people who are still in the hierarchy or have significant influence on decision-making. It is also important to get rid of the progeny of such people, be they kids or grand-kids, as power and privilege is often hereditary.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. Rum
    March 14, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    Your first stupid mistake is to posit that non-old people will fail to identify in any way with the old people they know they will soon become.

    Read my post again. I specifically mention that older people WITH power are the problem.

    Your second but often repeated mistake is to imagine that nihlism supports any kind of social betterment. Nihilists act only to relieve their existential boredom as they sit around awaiting their self-extinguishing death. Causing social torment is a stronger drug and more to their liking for that purpose.

    That is inconsequential as nihilism can take many forms- including killing others.

  2. March 14, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    hahaha, why don’t you just use the feminist term patriarchy…..

    trying to get on the SPLC list, are ya?


  3. hans
    March 15, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Your having a little logical breakdown here.

    You´re confusing the effect(old MEN in power) with the cause.
    That is that certain families have always greatly dominated the key points of power in human societies.
    Divide and conquer is nothing new and has been effectively used throughout the ages by these “clans” towards “upstart clans”.

    Your solution is none at all and actually will only ensure that new “clans” will take over the cozy places the former ones occupied.

    The real solution here is to simply spread awareness of these corrupt mechanisms those clans employ and “inoculate” coming generation with memes exposing them.

    So these old tricks aren´t allowed anymore.
    For example just like human sacrifice isn´t allowed in “civilized” religious worship anymore.

    • hoipolloi
      March 15, 2012 at 7:53 pm

      “The real solution here is to simply spread awareness of these corrupt mechanisms those clans employ and “inoculate” coming generation with memes exposing them.”

      In a way that is what is meant here in the blog post. AD is trying to do the same. Spreading awareness. Kudos to him.

      “So these old tricks aren´t allowed anymore. For example just like human sacrifice isn´t allowed in “civilized” religious worship anymore.”

      I would true that. Even animal sacrifice is fiercely opposed today only due to possibble media exposure. I posit that the fall of communism in Soviet Union was not due to Reagan’s policies or superiority of capitalism but due to humble hand held video. The oppressive regime there could not hide what is happening thanks to the Japanese ingenuity in miniaturizing and mass marketing technological gadgets. In these last few decades, it is the technology that is the liberating force for humanity, not political doctrine or religious altruism or philosophical enlightenment. Historically these three played a great role in emanicipating the masses, but not in the last one hundred years.

      Agree.. technology has destroyed more ideologies and traditions than anything else in the last 150 years.

  4. March 16, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Old people with power will have the old people without power killed.

  5. March 17, 2012 at 12:06 am
  6. Cortney
    March 17, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    How old is the author?

  7. March 18, 2012 at 7:47 am


    “I discovered most people in favor of abortion are already born”-Ronald Reagan

  8. March 26, 2012 at 10:52 am

    Solid concept but calling for the obliteration of old elites is a hard sell.

    If power resides in aging elites maintaining their beneficial status quo, then what prevents our uppity generation from abusing that power once we capture it?

    If your desire is also for power, that’s fine, but I’m not clear if your desire is for true liberty or the power they hold.

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