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My Thoughts on the Shooting of Trayvon Martin

Since many bloggers are writing about the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, I have also decided to share my thoughts about this unfortunate event. First the basics..

Trayvon Martin was an African-American teenager who was shot and killed by 28-year-old George Zimmerman, a man of mixed ethnicity (Latino and white American). Martin, who was unarmed, had been walking to the home of his father’s girlfriend from a convenience store when Zimmerman, a community watch captain, followed him after calling the Sanford Police Department, saying he witnessed what he described as suspicious behavior. Soon afterward, he fatally shot Martin.

Regardless of your opinion about Trayvon, George, Wannabe cops, Race, Florida or any thing else- we can all agree that Trayvon Martin was killed by George Zimmerman. There is also no doubt that Travyon was unarmed while Zimmerman was armed with the handgun he used to kill Trayvon. So the real question is about the motivations for, and behind, the killing.

There are those who say that George Zimmerman was justified in shooting Trayvon Martin to death, if only in self-defense. So let us see if this argument holds up..

1. Would George Zimmerman have been arrested if Travyon was white and George was black? Let me remind you that this event occurred in Florida, which has historically been one step up from Alabama and Mississippi as far as treatment of blacks is concerned. If you are disingenuous enough to suggest that race of the victim was not a major factor in the perpetrator not being charged, I have a bridge to sell you..

Have you noticed that most Americans pay attention to missing person reports on TV only if the ‘victim’ is female, white and blond? Why? Could it be that they do not value the lives of people of other races? Based on even a cursory observation of white Americans, it is fair to say that they exhibit more concern for missing dogs than black men.

2. There have been attempts to suggest that Trayvon was somehow a budding black thug based on an empty bag with marijuana “residues”, snapping at a bus driver, writing graffiti and having “tools” which “might” be useful in committing burglary. But is that really usual given his age? I can bet that most of you did everything Trayvon did when you were 16.

Moreover, is that really sufficient justification to kill a person? Would you still use this justification if the victim was white and the perpetrator was black? and isn’t suggesting that his dress was “thuggish” really that different from murdering people because they dress like hipsters or emos? Then there is the question whether Trayvon had actually stolen something or killed someone when he was killed by George.. because if he had not, then George really had no justification to stalk and kill him.

3. Some have said that George shot Trayvon in self-defense or during a scuffle. But how did that interaction start? Did Trayvon stalk and jump George or did George stalk and harass Trayvon? Was Travyon looking for George or vice-versa? Was it not George who initiated the hostile interaction with Trayvon? Did he produce any ID that he was a block watch guy? and how was Trayvon supposed to know that George was not lying?

How many of you would like to be stalked and harassed by a strange fat guy when you are walking back to your house at night? How would you react? Would you not confront the stalker? So why apply a different standard for Trayvon? Furthermore, why should you believe George Zimmerman’s account of the events? Isn’t it his word against that of a dead person- who, I might add, he killed. Based on the time lines of the phone calls and multiple post-shooting eyewitnesses, the entire interaction lasted less than two minutes- maybe less than a minute.

4. Why did it take the cops three days to identify the body as that of Trayvon Martin? Think about it- Trayvon had a cell phone and most likely a wallet on him. What were the cops in Sanford so busy with that they did not have time to promptly ID a dead black boy? Is this delay really excusable in our day and age? and why did it occur anyway?

Could it be that the Sanford cops treated the killing of Trayvon Martin as if he were a dog? make that a stray dog as they would have probably tried to ID a tagged dog and contact its owner. The very fact that the cops took three fucking days to ID Trayvon speaks volumes about how the Sanford police department perceives blacks.

I might write more about this story as events unfold and newer information becomes available.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. Shmack
    March 27, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Lay of the propranolol bitch.

  2. Webe
    March 28, 2012 at 12:33 am

    > Attention … [only for] the victim [if] female, white and blond

    This case is perhaps not as straight-forward as it seems with this vigilante in a “gated community” (luckily those don’t exist in most other countries that do not enjoy the all those great American freedoms). But there is plenty of evidence that the left liberal press buries a lot of white (hate) victim stories (who are after all themselves to blame for being a member of the “dominant” group) and go gaga championing victims if there is an exploitable civil liberties or political correctness angle.
    Nothing is more nauseatingly hypocritical than the self-righteous “heroic” indignation and sympathy of the in-crowd for the victims they appropriate as vehicles for their moral superiority and crusading.

  3. G.Bush
    March 28, 2012 at 5:35 am

    AD if killing off old white folks o.k. Then shooting some uppity young buck is o.k. too.

  4. March 28, 2012 at 6:03 am

    AD, I live in the Orlando area, and while I do agree with everything else you’re proposing here, you are incorrect on your presumption that it took 3 days to ID Trayvon.

    Martin’s parents were notified of his death with in 12 hours, however his body wasn’t released from the coroner for 3 days which is standard procedure for autopsy and toxicology studies in homicides. If they determined Trayvon was hopped up on some narcotic it could have a huge bearing on the case.

    My bad.. did not realize that they IDed him fairly quickly, but took 3 days to give his body back to his parents.

  5. Jack
    March 28, 2012 at 11:27 am

    George Zimmerman was cuffed and taken down to the station for questioning. They released him after taking a statement, taking his clothing, his gun, ect. They simply didn’t have anything to charge the guy with. In Florida the cops have to have evidence that it wasn’t self defense before they formally book someone. In other states the burden of self defense is on the shooter and they would normally book the person for a shooting.

  6. March 28, 2012 at 11:28 am

    “Have you noticed that most Americans pay attention to missing person reports on TV only if the ‘victim’ is female, white and blond?”

    Almost 3/4 of America is white, less than 15% is black.
    So, I’d expect since “most people” are white, then “most missing persons” will be white.
    Damn racism.

  7. Matt Strictland
    March 28, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    When I was 16 I had managed to avoid ever stealing, be polite to bus drivers, not carry weed in school or in public and would never have considered vandalizing property. I also didn’t do “stitches for snitches” either. t

    When I 14 or so I had done some stupid shit with peers, gotten in fights but I had well learned my lesson by 16

    And I also knew not to screw with adults who might shoot me which in the case if Florida is pretty much everyone of them, must issue since 1986 ….

    As for the issue of being followed. no I wouldn’t want to be followed either. However what we have here is a thug or a thug in training and a renta-cop with a gun and that means trouble any way you put it.

  8. soren
    March 28, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    “Why did it take the cops three days to identify the body as that of Trayvon Martin?”

    “1. Would George Zimmerman have been arrested if Travyon was white and George was black?”

    Who f’n cares? Your hypothetical fails on so many levels because it only presupposes race… Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch guy.

    “2. There have been attempts to suggest that Trayvon was somehow a budding black thug based on an empty bag with marijuana “residues”, snapping at a bus driver, writing graffiti and having “tools” which “might” be useful in committing burglary. But is that really usual given his age?”

    Yes, all the things TOGETHER are extremely unusual… and he had more than tools for burglary, he actually had jewelry. He also supposedly went off on whomever snitched on his marijuana use too.

    “3. Some have said that George shot Trayvon in self-defense or during a scuffle. But how did that interaction start? Did Trayvon stalk and jump George or did George stalk and harass Trayvon?”

    Why would a guy with a gun start a fist fight?

    “4. Why did it take the cops three days to identify the body as that of Trayvon Martin? ”

    Are you really this fucking stupid? This is a lie. Try reading this… they were ready to give the family the body back after 39 hours.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-trayvon-martin-question-answer-20120327,0,1338414.story

  9. bob
    March 28, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    Obviously the fact that 70% of the prison population comes from a 12% minority has everything to do with white racism.

    Another anti white post. Have you considered relocating to a country where whites dont hold a majority or much control?

    You can live in your utopia. In a shack without running water, but no white devils at least

  10. March 28, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    Two eye witnesses reported seeing Trayvon on top of Zimmerman, while Zimmerman yelled for help. The grass on his back and his broken nose in the police report confirm this (though one later changed her story for the media, her initial report agreed with the other neighbour, and Zimmerman’s account).

    Zimmerman appears to have stopped following him (no more heavy breathing on the 911 call), and have been returning to his car. There was some time between his exiting the vehicle, losing Trayvon, and him hanging up. It would appear that Poor Little Trayvon – rather than running away as his girlfriend advised – hid and waited to confront Zimmerman after he’d hung up on the police.

    Don’t forget, there’d been a spate of recent burglaries in the area, despite the gated nature.

    The real hypothetical question – who would have been the victim if there’d been no gun presesnt?

    Quite frankly, I find the idea of racist cops letting go of a conceal-carry shooter laughable. In my experience, there’s nobody the cops hate as much as a law abiding man who lives without fear. They’d be eager to arrest a shooter, no matter how justified.

  11. Conquistador
    March 29, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    bob :
    Obviously the fact that 70% of the prison population comes from a 12% minority has everything to do with white racism.
    Another anti white post. Have you considered relocating to a country where whites dont hold a majority or much control?
    You can live in your utopia. In a shack without running water, but no white devils at least

    I like AD and enjoy his contrarian and dystopian views. However a lot of what he says fall apart when discussing blacks. He obviously lives in a well off area nowhere near blacks given his worldview.

  12. j_l
    March 29, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    Your fallacy is you assume all things equal.

  13. james
    April 2, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    Honesty who care! Kids die every die in los angles. Is every kid gonna have a march now? All this is doing is creating tension between blacks and mexicans. cause of all this in palmdale a. 15 year old mexican was beat badly buy 7 blacks. Does he get a march. ? Or all this news press.? Trayvon had no business walking there with a hoodie he was up to no good. Take off the picture of him when he was twelve and put the one of him getting high. Holding guns and all the current picture. That’s a little peace of my mine . Thinking about this pisses me off.

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