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Is Black Rage at the Trayvon Martin Killing Really Unjustified?

After reading a lot of posts by right-wing morons about the Trayvon Martin shooting- a few things become obvious. It seems that all right-wing morons and many whites actually believe that..

1. It is not about race, but about “law and order”.

2. The police are the “good” and “fair” guys.

3. The american justice system is “fair” and “not racist”.

4. If any white person is racist, it is the n*****s fault.

5. Racism is fair and justifiable based on ‘insert reason’.

Inspite of harboring such attitudes, many whites also believe that the strong black reaction to the Trayvon Martin killing is unjustified. Do you see the problem? OK, let me explain. You see, the general attitude of whites towards blacks, throughout american history, can be summed up as- “n*****s are disposable animals with no rights, even to their own lives”. I would argue that every single facet of the american society, from medical care to the justice system, is tainted with this attitude. It just so happens that every non-brain damaged black person can see also see that to be the case. I believe that a lot of black behavior, and attitudes, towards whites are grounded in a very accurate reading of the white “mind”- if you can call it that.

The strong black reaction to the Trayvon Martin killing is, therefore, not so much about George Zimmerman’s actions as it is about the response and attitudes of the system to that event. As you might recall, the system treated Trayvon’s killing as if he was just another n***** who deserved to be dead. The system only acknowledged that ‘something unfortunate might have occurred’ after Trayvon’s parents hired well-connected lawyers.

Prior to that, the system treated George Zimmerman as if he had accidentally run over a neighbors pet dog rather than killed another human being.

Maybe the key to avoiding black rage lies in treating them like human beings. What do you think?

Comments?

  1. Dan
    April 25, 2012 at 10:50 pm | #1

    If the argument was that Zimmerman is racist and thus more readily, and unreasonably, formed the belief that his life was in danger, that would be one thing, but some people are actually arguing that Zimmerman killed Martin in cold blood. This belies a fundamental lack of integration of many blacks into society (otherwise, they would be able to put themselves in Zimmerman’s shoes and realize that that argument is absurd). It’s a chicken-and-egg problem that is a legacy of slavery and the subjugation of blacks, but that doesn’t really matter at this point. How can we fix it, if at all? If we can’t, is the white response you are concerned about unreasonable?

    As to how long it took to arrest Zimmerman: Thus far, the prosecution has presented no evidence that suggests it has probable cause to believe that Zimmerman did not act in self-defense. This is the legal requirement before charging or arresting him. I would not protest that it took so long to charge Zimmerman, but rather protest that he has been arrested without sufficient cause (unless they have evidence they have not disclosed).

  2. Conquistador
    April 25, 2012 at 10:52 pm | #2

    Feel free to move to the ghetto. We’ll see how long your affection for “people of color” lasts.
    —-

    Are ghettos what they are because poor people live on them, or because black people live in them? Is it income or race?

    • April 26, 2012 at 5:40 am | #3

      “Are ghettos what they are because poor people live on them, or because black people live in them? Is it income or race?”

      I’m assuming you’ll report the answer to us once you’ve moved to one and lived there for a while. Looking forward to it,

      • Peter
        April 27, 2012 at 7:46 am | #4

        First of all, the writer of this article is a “person of colour” himself. Despite what you have seen on TV we don’t all live in the “ghetto”. It is stereotypes like this that caused zimmerman to follow and kill trayvon.

  3. Webe
    April 26, 2012 at 2:26 am | #5

    I agree with your general points, but evidence seems to point out that the rage has now been focussed on a rather unfortunate case, for which the opportunistic lawyers are largely to blame. This will result in still more rage and frustration. And the ghetto is not just about income/race — fixing income/race alone will not fix the ghetto in the short/medium term. And yes, I lived (bought a house) in the ghetto, am white and not American.

  4. zarzal
    April 26, 2012 at 5:39 am | #6

    You have obviously not spent an extended amount of time (as in years) among blacks, have you? I invite you to spend some time and look for non-blacks who have gone to grade school with them and raised near black neighborhoods.

    • webe
      April 26, 2012 at 3:03 pm | #7

      Meaning what? What would that have taught.
      It actually was years and I am glad it wasn’t a day more: it was hellish, boarding up the windows and locking the ladder before leaving in the morning. But not enough to go brain numb and conclude that black, Viking or mongol behaviour and culture is genetically coded.

  5. April 26, 2012 at 5:46 am | #8

    “Maybe the key to avoiding black rage lies in treating them like human beings.”

    Every action has a reaction. And the thing about “rage” is, it doesn’t make me see, or wish to treat, the person expressing it as…more human. Funny how that works.

    Here’s the thing. I actually think the points you make above are true in some very very generic sense. Yes of course there is a history of injustice toward blacks in America. I am not sure what if anything that has to do with the particulars of the Martin case however (admittedly I have not studied the Martin case and have no plans to do so). In other words, a…human response to such a case would be to base one’s “rage”, or whatever, on actual facts – IF (and only if) the facts support such outrage.

    But the people who expressed rage at this killing evidently had no such facts, other than noticing (1) Mr. Martin was black, and (2) Mr. Zimmerman did not appear to be (it turns out he is actually part black). Also a lot of BS they saw & repeated on each other’s Facebook walls that turned out to be incorrect. In short, they expressed “rage” based on one factor and one only: race.

    How is that rational and why on earth should I respect it or give it any credence whatsoever? You don’t have a good answer to that because there is none.

  6. Matt Strictland
    April 26, 2012 at 10:09 am | #9

    AD asks: Are ghettos what they are because poor people live on them, or because black people live in them? Is it income or race?

    And note here these are all averages, there are people of every race that are smarter and have more impulse control than Average White Guy .The texture of a neighborhood is determined by its worse figures, not its best ..

    There are dirt poor neighborhoods all over the 1st world with White people in them. They are dysfunctional and violent compared to more affluent areas , White Ghettos in Canada ,Council Housing in the UK and areas with White Trash in the US that sort of thing all have higher crime. Back in the 19th Century Irish Ghettos were highly dangerous .

    However the level of danger is never anywhere as bad as Black areas. I think this is a matter of racial traits, Blacks do not seem to have as much impulse control or smarts on average as other ethnic groups. That a recipe for trouble in an urban environment since they have a much harder time building workable cultural traits and the fact they fewer of them can creates a feedback loop.
    The Mestizo areas are significantly safer than the Black areas by a margin but they too can have serious safety issues compared to poor White areas. This a bit confusing but I think its genetic dominance and culture . Most Mestizos are at least part White and culture plays a roll to a degree, the Mestizos have more impulse control and smarts than Blacks (not as much as Whites) and a better work ethic as well, again feedback.

    On Asian areas, “Asians” are not a monolithic group, some are highly focused and smart others like the Hmong can easily fall into ghetto patterns. There may be groups of Black or Mestizos with different traits but they don’t live in the US. The selection criteria was for slaves or cheap labor with high bravery (to cross the border) not brainpower if (and I do not know) there is a significant pool in either area

    What complicates matters is the fact we have such low social mobility in the US. There are too few jobs these days for anyone and as such its not as possible for anyone of any ethnicity to get to a fiscal situation where they can break out of the feedback loop. It can get to the point like that Rodney Danger song says “Only stupid people are breeding” and you can breed out traits that are useful in urban life simply because of poverty.

    And yes we could go to Social credit, this would kind of fix the economic issue but the cultural rot and lack of impulse control would remain. I suspect no matter what Blacks and Hispanics will be more violent on average than Whites and most Asians

  7. Red
    April 26, 2012 at 11:09 pm | #10

    Blacks kill each other at an extreamlly high rate. If anyone undervalues the life of the average negro it’s the negros themselvse. We’ve spent ourselves nearly to death trying up lift these people with nothing to show for it.

  8. Peter
    April 27, 2012 at 7:40 am | #11

    What white people fail to realise or perhaps not take into consideration, is that if zimmerman was black and trayvon was the same race as zimmerman, they would have arrested zimmerman on the spot. Your article is spot on, they think the system is blind to race. They think that because America has a partially black president, racism doesn’t exist.

    • doclove
      April 30, 2012 at 4:09 am | #12

      I’ll wait for all the evidence to be discovered, seperate the facts from fiction, and have palausible theories over implausible theories before making any final judgement. However, let us look at something crucial, and what appears to be the true story as of right now even though that may change. George Zimmerman foolishly got out of his motor vehicle and pursued Trayvon Martin, but he seems to have been returning to his pickup truck. Trayvon Martin was pursued and nearly at his father’s house, but seems to have decided to turn around and pursue George Zimmerman. It seems to me that if Trayvon Martin kept fleeing that he would still be alive and all of this would have been a virtually forgotten small police report if Trayvon Martin did not act so foolishly.

      What we have here is the predator-prey relationship, and both males could have been 100% of the same race, and people making it out to be more of a racial issue than it is because the race hustlers Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton benefit, our ruling elite of any race benefit, and Blacks will be allowed greater license to harm others of any race be they White, South Asian, East Asian and maybe even Latino, Native American Indian, Pacific Islander, mixed racde people etc. because our ruling elite will provide the verbal moral cover. Trayvon Martin’s parents, who are also .black, have a difficult time understanding that their son acting like a fool and it would be difficult to convict George Zimmerman of anything which is understandable beccause they are thinking emotionally like most any parent of any race would. Trayvon Martin’s parents have tried to lessen the violence by begging others to remain calm and peaceful which they should be praised greatly for doing. There are millions upon millions of people in this world who have been killed for acting less foolishly than what Trayvon Martin seems to have acted like in his final minutes on this Earth.

      I’ll respond to your response to Sonic Charmer as well as what you said above and your true comments that Advocatus Diaboli isn’t White, and in fact that he is a South Asian with ancestors from India. Slavery and Jim Crow laws afteerwards were terrible. I wish it never happened. Slavery ended around 1865 and Jim Crow laws ended around 1965. Affirmative Action has taken the place of Jim Crow and Blacks have gotten worse on average. Even conservative Black commentator, Thomas Sowell, agrees with what I wrote above in this paragraph. I agree that Whites have treated Blacks in a very assinine manner in the past and continue to treat Blacks in an assinine manner to some degree even today. However, Whites on average are the least assinine people to Blacks in the USA. That’s right I said that, and other races are more assinine in their thoughts and behaviors towrds Blacks than Whites. The truth is Blacks are the worst to themselves. for all the assinine behavior of Whites towards Blacks, i doubt anyone would have treated Blacks as well including Blacks themselves. My own personal experience is that races who aren’t White have more negative views of Blacks than Whites do. the only people who love Blacks more than Whites are other Blacks. If you doubt this, start asking yourself why the prison gang called the Mexican Mafia in the California penal system favorite target of attack is the prison gang called the Black Guerilla Family and not the prison gang called the Aryan Brotherhood. Ask yourself why the Chinese National team had fun ponding Black players on the Georgetown University team in a fist-fight in a basketball game in 2010 or 2011. Finally time has moved on and so should you because it is not 1612 A.D. , 1712 A.D , 1812 A.D. , nor even 1912 A.D. , but it is 2012 Anno Domini.

      • doclove
        April 30, 2012 at 4:14 am | #13

        I’m a White man, but truth is not limited to one race. My views are closer to the TRUTH than yours. I know that there is always my truth, your truth and the TRUTH.

  9. Kaz
    April 27, 2012 at 6:54 pm | #14

    @Peter

    What the hell are you basing on?

  10. j
    April 29, 2012 at 4:34 am | #15

    google the real george zimmerman

    bunch of duh-mass shit on this site.

  11. Wilson
    April 29, 2012 at 11:46 am | #16

    Zimmerman was a middle-class property owner with police connections who gunned down a young poor transient nobody. Blacks probably face additional bias and profiling, but lower-class whites are shit on too.

    The black reaction is tribal and entitled. In my area there are heartfelt community rallies and memorials when promising and beloved black teens are shot…even though they are drug dealers, even though they were killed while trying to assault or kill a fellow black dealer

  12. April 30, 2012 at 5:53 am | #17

    so then blacks are adept as understanding white society, but whites are not as adept at understanding black society?

    the problem is, like the acquittal of the officers that beat Rodney King and the subsequent riots, is that black people will buy skittles and organize a march b/c the AP and other media told them a white guy shot a black kid in a gated community. which is largely inaccurate.
    but black people will continue blowing each other away in every major city each weekend and black people will continue to make sure their baby has nice shoes rather than a college fund. each weekend, scores of people are shot and killed in Chicago. black on black violence is far more pervasive and destructve to black communities than the much less often white on black violence which occurs.

    they’ll vote for obama b/c they think having a black president makes their lives better but black households are still far behind whites before and after Obama took office. blacks were also harder hit by unemployment in the recession, but the president is black so it’s fine.
    i’m not saying the republicans have a better answer, but even if they did, blacks would still vote Obama and still miss the point of the war by fighting the wrong battles.

  13. April 30, 2012 at 5:55 am | #18

    and if you look at literacy, marriage rates, children out of wedlock et cetera, blacks are worse off in those categories since the END of segregation.

    ………………wrap your brain around that.

  14. M Simon
    May 1, 2012 at 2:31 am | #19

    I believe Black Flash mobs and their attacks “For Trayvon” as well as singular attacks for Trayvon are setting the record straight.

    • M Simon
      May 1, 2012 at 2:48 am | #20

      “Maybe the key to avoiding black rage lies in treating them like human beings. What do you think?”

      I think the key to avoiding Black rage is for Blacks to act like human beings. See my above on the Black “For Trayvon” Flash Mobs.

  15. dean
    May 1, 2012 at 5:12 am | #21

    Is there a shred of evidence to sugegst that Zimmerman didn’t act in self-defense? Absolutely NOT. This story has been so ridiculously and incorrectly hyped from day one.
    An eyewitness saw Martin on top of Zimmerman BEATING HIM UP.
    The SPD investiagted this in 13 days (not 7 hours) and found NOTHING to contradict Zimmerman’s account of what happened.

  16. May 1, 2012 at 6:24 am | #22

    Peter :
    First of all, the writer of this article is a “person of colour” himself. Despite what you have seen on TV we don’t all live in the “ghetto”. It is stereotypes like this that caused zimmerman to follow and kill trayvon.

    WRONG! It was the previous 7 or 8 break-ins in the community, on record at the SPD, where black males were the perps that caused Zimm to follow Tray. It was Tray’s fists that got him shot. Your insistence on crying out RACIST makes you look ignorant of basic facts.

  17. Rum
    May 7, 2012 at 4:37 pm | #23

    Trayvon knew or strongly suspected that GZ was a neighborhood watch guy and that NW guys were never supposed to be armed. That is why he chose GZ for the delivering of a brain damaging, head-on-concrete beat-down. He assumed he could not fight back.(Trayvon in real life towered over GZ by 5-6 inches)
    The real problem stemmed from NW guys putting themselves out as being un-armed. Just asking for trouble.

  18. Joe
    June 3, 2012 at 4:20 pm | #24

    Maybe if blacks want to be treated like humans they should behave accordingly (Yes, I know there are bad whites and good blacks, but we all know blacks have poor impulse control compared to whites).

  19. December 23, 2013 at 7:09 pm | #25

    There is another theory to consider. Google (trayvon “ass cracker” gay Jeantel) to see a lot of discussion & even video of Jeantel, one of the primary witnesses. Just FYI.

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