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Was Ariel Castro a Monster or a Product of the System?

The trial and conviction of Ariel Castro is the one of the more recent supposedly “shocking” crime stories to dominate american mass media. To summarize it in one sentence- the guy kidnapped, imprisoned and raped three young women for over a decade while simultaneously living an unremarkable and outwardly normal life.

As usual, talking heads in the mass media have come out with their own interpretations of what drove that guy to do what he did. There are those who see it as evidence for the existence of “true” evil, while others interpret it as the actions of a deranged and mentally ill man. Yet others see it evidence of a decline in neighborliness and social cohesion. However almost every single one of these talking heads and media pundits seem to agree that what Ariel Castro did was very abnormal, unusual and bizarre.

But were his actions abnormal, unusual or bizarre?

And this brings us to an important, though rarely asked, question- how do we determine whether any given behavior or action is normal or not? Are there any hard and fast rules for what is OK or not OK? Let us start by looking at human history over the last 100-150 years. During that period many behavior and actions most of us would today denounce as abhorrent, at least in social settings, were considered normal and socially acceptable.

Slavery and ‘Jim Crow’ was once totally acceptable and legal.. and some would say the later is still well and alive, if under a different name. Using child labor in hazardous industries was once very common and considered an integral part of capitalism. Killings millions of minorities, like the Jews and Armenians, was also totally legal and socially acceptable. Eugenics was once considered progressive social policy and sending millions of men to die for the sole purpose of lining the pockets (and fluffing the egos) of rich, old and decaying impotent white men was once considered normal. There are therefore no hard and clear boundaries to what is normal and what is not, regardless of what paid sophists (academics and intellectuals) say or write. And this brings us to the next important question that even fewer people want to ask..

Were the actions of Ariel Castro typical of American society in the 2000s or were they truly deviant?

Let us start with the part about kidnapping and imprisoning innocent people. As many of you know, extraordinary rendition of people suspected for “terrorism” is a routine and publicly accepted part of the war on “terror”. Almost nobody seems to care that most of the suspects apprehended under this extrajudicial way of doing things are either low-level members or innocent people who happen to have the same names as suspects. Then there is the whole business of secret prisons and torture facilities, often run in other countries by governments that are friendly or compliant with the USA. You might have also heard about Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp. The point is that kidnapping and imprisoning innocent people is totally normal and acceptable in the USA, as long as they are not white.

But what about all that torture, sexual and psychological abuse that those three girls were subjected to. Surely that has no equivalent in the contemporary american society, or does it? To answer that question we have to look at who is imprisoned in the USA, for what reasons and under what conditions. Once again, some of you might be aware that the USA leads the world in incarcerating its own people- both in absolute numbers and as a percentage of the population. The rate of incarceration has also lost any linkage to the amount of violent crime committed. Moreover, a large and important sector of the american economy is now based upon arresting, prosecuting and incarcerating people- all under the guise of ‘law and order’.

Then there is the question of who is incarcerated and who is not. The american system has no interest in prosecuting “white-collar” crime unless the suspects is non-white or a small time operator who made many powerful enemies. People who made billions by selling useless or harmful drugs that killed tens of thousands will never be jailed. Similarly, those who made billions and trillions by destroying the lives of millions through ‘legal’ financial engineering will never see the inside of a jail cell. Yet average or poor people who broke some inane and almost never enforced law are often dragged in court and sentenced to prison. Similarly low-level pot or crack dealers often end up in jail for years or decades even if they have not been violent. To put it another way, american “justice” is a bad joke that only a stupid, fat, impotent and decaying CONservative white moron can believe in.

The conditions in most american jails are also pretty grim. Most are overcrowded places with lots of internal violence, rape, drugs etc. Then there is the whole issue of solitary confinement, its effects and supermax prisons.

To put it another way, the american system pays millions of people to do far worse to millions others than what Ariel Castro did to those three women. It is too bad that Ariel Castro chose the occupation of a school bus driver and had to do those things “illegally” when he could done all that and more “legally” if he worked as a police or corrections “officer”. He could also have made much more money doing that than as a school bus driver.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. Wilson
    August 16, 2013 at 6:08 am

    In practical terms an action is only “wrong” if you can’t get away with it. So there are lots of rules for weak individuals, while states can do anything. This removal of accountability is why people think government “liberates” them, though of course they are under the control of their superiors. Yet it’s true they are not really slaves, and are guilty of a worse kind of evil than Castro’s, since at least he was following his own will.

  2. P Ray
    August 17, 2013 at 12:22 am

    He was trying to grab his slice, rather than wait for “the pie in the sky when you die” … he was trying to get his “while I’m around on the ground”.
    What he did was wrong … but you have to ask how accountable society is to produce people desperate enough or driven enough to do that.
    Of course there are lots of privileged stupid idiots who believe there are no consequences to their actions.
    It’s very telling that in the West, the concept of “karma” is a dirty word.
    It’s indicative of people who think they can escape being bad to others so long as they’re “right with God”.

    • P Ray
      August 17, 2013 at 12:24 am

      The British were incensed at this speech, more so the ones of the Abrahamic faith. Very telling.
      “My beliefs have evolved in the last eight or nine years, that the spirit has to come back again, that is nothing new, that has been around for thousands of years. You have to come back to learn and face some of the things you have done, good and bad. There are too many injustices around.”
      “You and I have been physically given two hands and two legs and half-decent brains. Some people have not been born like that for a reason. The karma is working from another lifetime. I have nothing to hide about that. It is not only people with disabilities. What you sow, you have to reap.”
      “You have to look at things that happened in your life and ask why. It comes around.”

      —Glenn Hoddle (awesome chap in my opinion AND an advocate for the disabled).

  3. Marcus666
    August 17, 2013 at 12:47 am

    “karma”: don’t fall for this crap. It’s justification why somebody has it good and another one has it bad. There is no good or bad behavior, it’s only a perception in your mind. If the guy with the highest charisma says it is good then everybody will see it as “good”. There is only the game of statistics, chance and Darwinism.
    As a European I never understood why Americans call their country “land of the free” when such a high population is in prison. I also never understood Americans their adoration of capitalism since you cannot predict luck and there such a high poverty.

    • P Ray
      August 17, 2013 at 4:49 am

      All it takes to change a 8+ to a -1 is a bottle of acid to the face.
      “Somebody has it good” only so far as they haven’t pissed off someone enough to change their life for the worse. And everyday that threshold is being lowered due to widespread devaluation of currency, labour and expertise.

      If the guy with the highest charisma says it is good then everybody will see it as “good”.
      I enjoy watching those same guys telling men to take their female “discards” and such women crying out for the guys they previously ignored to wife them up.
      “Used goods at full price” is my opinion of that.

      • Marcus666
        August 17, 2013 at 7:31 am

        Pray, what about the people that had an accident, had a disease? And that 8+ … U don’t need acid for that. 10years waiting will do an equal job.
        High charisma does NOT equal pussy. This was a mistake that I made few years ago. I still don’t understand what equals pussy. I know too much high charisma “slaves” to still believe that paradigm. But I understand what you mean. Most guys drive around a high maintenance car with too much millage. I don’t buy cars. I rent one if needed.

      • P Ray
        August 17, 2013 at 8:28 am

        Personally, what would work for most guys is resource denial.
        Women use men for favours of all kinds, men can get a better deal by saying “What will you give me in exchange?”.
        Remember, if she could afford paid help, she would have done so.
        Oh, and try to “collect” up front.
        Following Briffault’s Law, women love men who deliver favours, then call them creeps when it’s time to reciprocate/collect.
        Many go through their whole lives like that, men should get paid.

  4. Heo Hak
    August 17, 2013 at 1:51 am

    This is western thinking vs. Eastern thinking. West believes in Rule of Might and East believes in Rule of Right.

    —-

    Not really.. same shit in different bottles.

    This is why “karma” and doing good for the sake of good is unthinkable in most of western society. And those who do believe in “karma” and doing good for the sake of good are usually followers of Eastern philosophies or religions such as Buddhism.

    It is no surprise the West is the way it is.

    Rule of Might has embodied the way the West has operated since it began Western Imperialism, which was achieved through white people being dishonorable, cheating, lying, stealing, backstabbing, drug pushing (opium), scumbags

    200-500 years so far of white supremacism, and many western countries like the USA are built on:

    genocide of two races ->:Native Americans and Australian Aboriginals through intentional use of smallpox and biological warfare + mass rape of women to wipe out these races.

    mass slavery of blacks based on phenotype (physical appearance/skin color) and mass rape/continuous rape of female black slaves

    colonization and mass pillaging/raping of Africa and African resources

    colonialism and destruction of East Asian culture,

    mass rape of East Asian women,

    atomic bombs on East Asians and many who want to nuke East Asia once more (and others like McArthur who advocated nuking China as well), and the Tsunami Bomb used by the US military to cause the Fukushima Meltdown-Tsunami disaster and spread radiation in East Asia once again,

    http ://www. wanttoknow. info/050307tsunamibombweapon
    —-

    LOL

    destruction and destabalization of the Middle East,

    mass rape of basically all non-white women, destruction of pretty much all non-white-christian or anglo cultures,

    continuous abuse of non-white peoples since 500 years ago

    and whites now complaining about racism towards them when whites are merely losing their privilege and no longer going to be at the “top of the pyramid”

    The world is slowly changing to where everyone will now be pretty much equal,

    so whites are whining about losing their privilege because most whites would love things to be like they used to be.

    This is why whites are so desperate to use media warfare to brainwash people and continue to enforce white-worship and white supremacy. They do their best to do this through Hollywood. Though it seems that a few ashkenazi jews and other infiltrators have now turned the tables on whites in some ways (pairing white women with black men and Asian men now being portrayed more positively).

    http ://www. wanttoknow. info/060123psyops

    Obviously u have not read my views on conspiracy theories.

    That’s not to mention all the resources whites have stolen from non-whites.

    So Ariel Castro being a product of the west is NO FUCKING SURPRISE.

    Most Americans have bloodlines full of mental health problems. Whites, especially the anglo-genocide-committers and their descendants, including part-white hispanics (product of rape of Native American women by white males)

    are generally mentally unstable and psychopathic and sadistic mass murdering types.

  5. Marcus666
    August 17, 2013 at 11:31 am

    It are the older woman that need resources. I’m not interested in older woman. I’m interested in the hot young ones. They need other things (attention,sex,lifestyle). They get the sex by banging a “cool” (fraternity) guy, the lifestyle from their friends, and they get the attention when they go out. In every way how you look at it, it’s a game you cannot win if you’re not a top dog.

    • P Ray
      August 17, 2013 at 11:47 am

      You missed the runaways, the impoverished student, the debt-ridden, the jobless, the orphans.
      There’s a good reason those women target older men.
      However, make it a fair exchange and get something of value in those situations.

  6. August 18, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    Hey AD,

    1. How goes your sex life?

    Paid sex is reliable.

    2. What are your favorite things to do with escorts?

    Depends on the escort.

    • August 18, 2013 at 2:27 pm

      Do you use any STD precautions aside from no visible lesions, shaved pussy, and trying to pick escorts who don’t seem overly busy?

      Have a friend with herpes, he said it comes back and here and there. What are some STD treatments you have tried over the years?

  7. John
    April 2, 2014 at 6:01 am

    Ariel Castro was 4’9, played in a band as a bassist, balding with glasses. I think he grabbed
    those women because he needed female companionship.

  8. September 12, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    To put it another way, the american system pays millions of people to do far worse to millions others than what Ariel Castro did to those three women. It is too bad that Ariel Castro chose the occupation of a school bus driver and had to do those things “illegally” when he could done all that and more “legally” if he worked as a police or corrections “officer”. He could also have made much more money doing that than as a school bus driver.

    This scares the shit out of me, but you know what? It’s the ugly reality and the truth will set your ass free! I was reading about the Supermax prison a few weeks ago and some black nationalist/religious leader named Malachi Z. York who the government destroyed is in one of those Supermax prisons for child molestation charges – the same prison that houses terrorists and shoe-bombers. I’m unsure if this Mr. York did molest children or not, but I’m also reading that it could have been a conspiracy against him and that of course race plays a major part in it. Someone mentioned him in a vlog and I looked him up and discovered that certain prison systems are used to intentionally torture certain people… But if Ariel Castro was a prison guard, he’d have gotten away with it and some so-called “feminists” would have cheered him on.

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