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Eliminating Vectors is More Important than Eradicating Pathogens: 2

Continuing onward from the previous part of this series, let me describe the long process via which I reached the conclusion that human vectors are far more problematic than pathogenic humans. Part of this journey has been described in one of my older articles, Nazis as Corporate Drones, in which I proposed that the mindset of loyal Nazis was remarkably similar to the ideal american corporate drone. But why? Why do some people make loyal Nazis or good corporate drones, while many others just don’t fit in such institutions or care about their assigned tasks. A glimpse into what makes loyal Nazis and corporate drones can be found later on in the same article and I quote..

It does not take a genius to figure out that moderately ambitious personalities with little ability for independent thought, but just enough brain-power to carry the task they have been assigned, will flourish in such institutions.

It is however clear that being an average, mediocre and conformist simpleton is only part of what makes a loyal Nazi or corporate drone. If that was not so, almost any guy on the street could be molded into a mindless loyal Nazi or corporate drone. But that is not the case and history shows that most people make incompetent Nazis or corporate drones. That is not to say they are stupid. Indeed, those who do it inefficiently understand the nature of the job much better than those who do it efficiently.

So what are the extra conditions, predispositions and circumstances necessary to create loyal Nazis or corporate drones?

Interviews of those who committed genocide in the name of the Third Reich are a good place to start. I have read many transcripts and seen many interviews of such people and here are some of my observations. The vast majority of those who participated in such activities appear very normal, even ‘extra-normal’, on multiple levels. Almost all of them had families, wives, children and dogs. You can see photographs of them enjoying picnics, fishing, beach holidays, family functions during the same time they were killing thousands of unarmed people in their day jobs. They do not appear to have any conventional mental illness nor do they display any real remorse, guilt or conscience for what they were doing. They seemed to more concerned about their promotions, living quarters and family lives.

Now some of you might say that they were just trying to make the best of what was at hand. Maybe they were trying to protect their minds from the realities of what they were doing. I could buy that argument but for one very glaring problem- they were very enthusiastic, motivated and diligent at performing their ‘daytime’ jobs. Many had great pride at their efficiency at doing what they did. That is most unlike a person forced to kill someone else to stay alive. And one more thing- the behavior, attitudes, mindset and worldview of the average loyal Nazi was very reminiscent of the average faithful Mormon, something we will revisit later on in this series.

It is especially fascinating to see that the moderate intelligence, blind obedience to large institutions, child-like faith in authority, clean-cut lifestyle, strong family ties and extreme conformism was especially prevalent in loyal Nazis as it is in american corporate drones and faithful mormons. But was that just a simple coincidence or does it point to something else? What about other genocides during the 20th century? Were the perpetrators mentally similar to the loyal Nazis or corporate drones?

To answer that question, let us look at the other great genocide of the 1930s-1940s aka Japanese rule in China. While the Japanese killed more Chinese than the Nazis killed Jews, it is not as well documented as the later one. To complicate matters further, most Japanese still do not accept that what they did was wrong and veterans of that era are very reluctant to talk about their actions. However even a basic understanding of Japanese history and society would suggest that Japanese are not especially violent in Japan. Indeed, it is and has been a remarkably safe place as long as stable governance exists. So what accounts for the most peculiar Japanese behavior in China during the 1930s-1940s?

Here is my theory.. the average Japanese had all the features of a loyal Nazi. Everything from the moderate intelligence, blind obedience to large institutions, child-like faith in authority, clean-cut lifestyle, strong family ties and extreme conformism was even more prevalent in Japanese society than WW2-era German society. Curiously, they also make excellent corporate drones. Coincidence? I think not! The same is also true for the loyal british bureaucrats and soldiers who slaved away and committed various genocides for the empire. They were all cut from the same metaphoric cloth.

In the next part I shall explore how all of this fits into the world of today.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. September 8, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    Reblogged this on oogenhand and commented:
    You write very well.

  2. The Plague Doctor
    September 9, 2013 at 9:26 am

    “They do appear to have any conventional mental illness nor do they display any real remorse, guilt or conscience for what they were doing.”

    “do not appear”?

    Thanks! fixed it.

  3. EvilOne
    September 9, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    “the average Japanese had all the features of a loyal Nazi. Everything from the moderate intelligence, blind obedience to large institutions, child-like faith in authority, clean-cut lifestyle, strong family ties and extreme conformism was even more prevalent in Japanese society than WW2-era German society. Curiously, they also make excellent corporate drones. Coincidence? I think not! ”
    —————————————

    Maybe you should do an article on the Hikkomori.

  4. September 10, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    yeah…

    the milgram experiment…

    there is a certain personality type that will absolve all moral responsibility if they are “told.”

    • EvilOne
      September 11, 2013 at 2:10 am

      100% of females and 54% of males, if I remember correctly.

      • P Ray
        September 11, 2013 at 2:33 am

        That’s another reason why females love rigid social hierarchies:
        They know whose dick to suck to get ahead.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude
        …”A 2006 experiment about justice served suggests that men, but not women, enjoy seeing bad people suffer.”

        That would also suggest that women don’t believe in morality … unless it benefits them.
        The same women who talk about Miley Cyrus’ twerking, would love a guy like Robin Thicke pumping things up behind them alone.

  5. Marcus666
    September 12, 2013 at 1:38 am

    Again an article full of insights. Let them come! I always ask myself why is it that those people who “play the game” seem to workslave their life away and seem unhappy. Or they actually believe that their boss is god, or they hope to have a place in the sun beside him. What’s the best thing to do: kill a few jews in misty and cold foggy Auschwitz or live as a farmer in Tirol (south-Germany), chewing in some grains while Helga is in your arms?

  6. MaMu1977
    September 16, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    “There are hardly any excesses of the most crazed psychopath that cannot easily be duplicated by a normal kindly family man who just comes in to work every day and has a job to do.”-Small Gods, written by Terry Pratchett.

  7. September 29, 2013 at 1:12 am

    Man evolved to create working social structures, not ethical structures. The tribe that worked most efficiently together survived. Constantly questioning the common goals is not a trait increasing the likelihood of survival.

    • P Ray
      September 29, 2013 at 3:04 am

      But are we still at that level of survival?
      Otherwise such a statement (also at a time when people who did the work were most assuredly granted a share of the spoils) is just an excuse for an everlasting situation of “taking-more-than-their-fair-share-because-they’re-the-leaders”.

    • EvilOne
      September 29, 2013 at 8:03 am

      From a random discussion on teh interwebs:

  1. September 10, 2013 at 11:04 am

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