What I Really Think About Human Beings as a Species: 8

As I mentioned in my previous post of this series – an open license to rob, abuse, torture and murder all those “others” is an essential and integral part of all successful organized religions and ideologies. Let me explain that concept with a simple example.

Why does Islam, today, have more followers than Buddhism? Now this question assumes that you believe that Buddhism is a religion, which some of its believers might find objectionable. But the main question still stands- what makes a religion like Islam more attractive to average dumbfucks than any given school of Buddhism? In my opinion- it comes down to one particular promise that the former offers which the later does not. Well.. Islam officially, and functionally, sanctions the robbery, abuse, torture and murder of “unbelievers”. Buddhism merely sanctions looking down on those “unbelievers”.

One offers the promise of personal enrichment through the guiltless looting, abuse and murder of “others”- while the other merely allows its believers to point and snicker at those pesky “others”.

It is important to note that mainstream flavors of pre-enlightenment era Christianity were as covetous, regressive and brutal as Islam appears today. If you do not believe that statement, I suggest that you read up on the many and very bloody Catholic-Protestant wars waged in the 16th century Europe. I should also point out that Christian doctrine was used to support and justify the genocide of many millions in the Americas during the age of “discovery”. Even 20th century wars such as WW1 and WW2 used religion-based concepts (most notably nationalism) to motivate simpletons into sacrificing their lives by the millions for causes that had nothing to do with any improvement of their own lives.

Capitalism, Communism and other secular organized ideologies are no different. Do you really think that all those who imprisoned, tortured and killed millions of others on the “orders” Stalin and Mao did so because they believed in the principles of the Stalinist or Maoist flavor of Communism? No! They just did it because they wanted to! The belief systems, books and official orders were merely a guilt-absolving justification to do what they always wanted- but never had the balls to do on their own accord. Organized religion and ideologies are about providing a sophistic and plausible sounding justification for acting like a total sociopath but without having to accept any personal responsibility or culpability for their actions.

The guilt-transference mechanism of an organized religion or ideology allows its followers to kill in its name as their day job, then go home to their families in the evening and act as if they did nothing unusual or wrong.

Now imagine what would happen if you overwhelmed and subjugated a true believer and then asked them to account for their past actions. For starters, almost every single will claim innocence. Some will tell you that they were acting in accordance with the dictates of some god, prophet or leader who is almost always conveniently unavailable or dead. Others might claim that they were following the most recent edition of some ancient “holy” book of questionable authorship and full of editing and continuity errors. Now imagine how those very same people would react if a person robbed, abused, tortured and murdered scores of other people on the basis of voices in his head, third person accounts of hallucinations and the contents of old comic books. So, what is the real difference between a mentally ill murderer and a person who kills in the name of an organized religion and ideology.?

A mentally ill murderer who believes that he is god is far more honest and possess significantly larger balls than the pathetic piece of shit who has to hide in the shadow of a socially acceptable belief system and defend his actions through misdirection and sophistry.

I was initially going to devote this post to a discussion about the more insidious organized secular religions (nationalism, capitalism, feminism) of our era- but felt it was necessary to first shine some more light on the original dirty secret underlying all organized belief systems. You will therefore have to wait for the next post in this series to read about my thoughts on contemporary secular religions.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. August 18, 2014 at 5:48 pm

    “Now imagine what would happen if you overwhelmed and subjugated a true believer and then asked them to account for their past actions. For starters, almost every single will claim innocence. Some will tell you that they were acting in accordance with the dictates of some god, prophet or leader who is almost always conveniently unavailable or dead.”

    Millgram experiment broe…

    Gawd is the ultimate “authority.”

    Funny that, religion can be used to keep poor people poor-ie they will recieve in “heaven” what they don’t receive on earth and can be used to kill “heathens.”

  2. August 18, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    On another note, I went to a Catholic HS growing up. My mom would always remark that I stunk and I needed to wear deodorant. A few years later, the TV had some priest scandals. I told my mom-see that’s why I didn’t wear deodorant-kept the pedo priests at bay. Somehow, I don’t think a race realist HBD’er like C Rudd was as clever. Oh, well, I guess his alter boi time was good practice for when he met Jack Don-0-van and others in the so-called man-0-sphere…

  3. blurkel
    August 19, 2014 at 1:20 am

    Most religions have a tenet which effectively says that one’s actions are the best indicator of what a person is. Every religion on Earth today violates their own behavioral standards on a daily basis, and every religion stands ready to justify these violations with words of exoneration. That anyone still believes in the myths of mystical beings with great powers only shows that mankind has yet to achieve civilization.

    • joesantus
      August 20, 2014 at 5:45 am

      “That anyone still believes in the myths of mystical beings with great powers only shows that mankind has yet to achieve civilization.”

      …and evidences that mankind can’t ever be anything other than how it is and has been.

      Most people fear death — so, belief in mythical beings will probably always offer most humans a means to cope with that fear while they live their daily lives.

      Most people want a set of absolutes of “right and wrong” by which to help them make decisions — so, mythical beings attributed with superior knowledge and power will probably always offer most people a means to simplify deciding what to do in a given situation.
      That most “believers” fail to consistently follow even the fundamental rules of the “rights and wrongs” established by their mythical beings simply evidences that humans are not as concerned with personally behaving “right” as they are concerned with simplifying their thought-processes by having the security of “knowing what is right”.

      Making the devout believers of all ideologies in a population (somewhere around 30-40% of the total) disappear forever might help. As I have said before, devout believers in ideologies ARE the problem- or at least 99% of it.

      • blurkel
        August 20, 2014 at 2:48 pm

        “…and evidences that mankind can’t ever be anything other than how it is and has been. ”

        Offering an excuse as to why humanity is too lazy to become intelligent and stop lying to itself?

        The One Commandment of Yeshua bar Yusuf is all people need to know right from wrong. They just refuse to become aware and lose their prejudices.

    • joesantus
      August 21, 2014 at 4:35 pm

      “Offering an excuse as to why humanity is too lazy to become intelligent and stop lying to itself?”

      I wish that what I observe historically would make it merely an excuse and would evidence to me that it’s merely humanity’s simple choice. But, human survival instinct appears extremely strong and leads people to be averse to death — and that strong aversion generates a fear of death and death’s “unknowns”. I think that fear of death, regrettably, overwhelms rationality and leads most humans to grasp at any straw which relieves that fear.

      Humanity’s lying to itself is far more comfortable than facing the fear about death and death’s “what happens to me afterward!?” People allay their fear of death and its unknowns by, chronically using their “intelligence” to justify their beliefs in supernatural beings in order to continue to find comfort in those beliefs .

      • blurkel
        August 21, 2014 at 4:44 pm

        “People allay their fear of death and its unknowns by, chronically using their “intelligence” to justify their beliefs in supernatural beings in order to continue to find comfort in those beliefs.”

        The number of those seeking solace in superstition is diminishing as time goes by. Every religion reported a major shuffling in their membership in 2007 as people shopped for myths that suit their biases. Increasingly, this resulted in abandoning superstition completely ( http://religions.pewforum.org/reports/ ). The numbers haven’t improved since then.

    • joesantus
      August 21, 2014 at 10:47 pm

      While that Pew survey indicates a move a small move away from ORGANIZED systems of superstition, a look at other Pew research evidences a parallel rise in the percentages of UNAFFILIATED people who are nevertheless “superstitious”:

      “However, a new survey by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life, conducted jointly with the PBS television program Religion & Ethics NewsWeekly, finds that many of the country’s 46 million unaffiliated adults are religious or spiritual in some way. Two-thirds of them say they believe in God (68%). More than half say they often feel a deep connection with nature and the earth (58%), while more than a third classify themselves as “spiritual” but not “religious” (37%), and one-in-five (21%) say they pray every day.”

      ( http://www.pewforum.org/2012/10/09/nones-on-the-rise/ ) (Dated 2012)

      Indicating that, while some people may be moving away from existing systems of superstitions, they’re not necessarily dismissing superstition as a means of comfort, but rather substituting their own varieties of superstitions and finding comfort in those.

      • blurkel
        August 22, 2014 at 5:38 am

        And before too much longer, they will run out of other options. Turning to tarot and astrology and ouija, they can satisfy their inate desires to prove themselves inferior and incapable and at the mercy of the spirits which inhabit their dark, little worlds. Then we will hear about how there is a secret code buried in sudoku puzzles, and the combination of lotto numbers across a period of time are secret message to the initiated.

        A wise relative (a very religious man, by the by) once told me that peole are stupid and no damn good. they prove this observation daily.

  4. Daniel Ly
    August 19, 2014 at 3:06 am

    Is it right when Buddhists «look down on unbelievers»? A buddhist guide and role model reflects with compassion and wisdom upon others no matter which religion or ideology they follow. He or she doesn’t judge or assume. We should follow this lead.

    • joesantus
      August 21, 2014 at 12:56 pm

      Respecting or tolerating others’ beliefs, “no matter which religion or ideology they follow” becomes thorny when a religion (and/or particular interpretational variation within it) itself directly or indirectly encourages intolerance or even harm (whether physical or otherwise) toward unbelievers in or apostates from that religion.

      “Live and let live” is an idyllic approach, no argument, but could succeed only if 100% of people consistently applied it 100% of the time.

      Regrettably, major belief systems — especially Islam and Christianity — contain key tenets which not only make them actively evangelistic but also intolerant and even violent toward others. Buddhism is judged, condemned, maligned, and rejected by such religions, and “nonjudgmental” Buddha might find himself censored, imprisoned, physically harmed, or even executed by varieties of Islam or Christianity.

      • nalply
        August 21, 2014 at 1:52 pm

        Even Jesus turned the other cheek.

      • joesantus
        August 21, 2014 at 4:16 pm

        “Even Jesus turned the other cheek”

        .Unfortunately, (granting here for the sake of discussion that a person called Iesus taught this or anything) his teaching to turn the other cheek isn’t the ONLY teaching ascribed to him and found within the sources from which Christians derive their beliefs, and by which Christians can, in various ways and to varying degrees, think and/or act intolerantly and judgmentally.

      • nalply
        August 21, 2014 at 10:22 pm

        Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, Confucius and others are role models. I relate to them by listening to stories about them and they inspire me to lead a better life.

  5. August 20, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    since you are a biotech dude, maybe you could write an article on Agent Orange or on depleted uranium…

    • EvilOne
      August 22, 2014 at 10:03 am

      They put it in the water!!!

  6. Jack
    August 22, 2014 at 7:15 am

    Some radical ideologies are not decreasing, they are increasing and are becoming more militant to grow and expand. Such as, a religion controlled country banned contraception recently to increase their population. Also, the monetary and weapons funding to this radical religion is increasing to make them feel powerful and giving them more tools to expand. Maybe cutting off the funding such as to this militant religion might decrease it or at least slow the spread of it. They use the guise of their religion as they seek to forcefully impose their religious and political ideology as a way to benefit themselves at the expense of others.

    • joesantus
      August 22, 2014 at 9:23 am

      History indicates to me that, although specific superstitions (including the familiar organized systems of belief) undergo changes ( including but not limited to explosive growth, gradual decline, splintering, and sometimes even extinction) over time among various peoples and in various locales, humanity’s tendency to embrace superstition doesn’t change.

      Throughout recorded world history, there have always been the few (usually labeled and mislabeled, even if not by themselves, as “non-theists”, “skeptics”, “agnostics”, “atheists”, etcetera) who rejected/dismissed any and all superstition (sometimes at the cost of their welfare or even lives). But, the majority of humanity have always embraced superstition, with people and peoples sometime discarding one superstition but adopting yet another.

      Reminds me of the balloon visual : a balloon squeezed small at one spot merely rearranges itself and swells out at another spot.

      While I disagree with AD that it’s the only motivation, I definitely agree with AD that a primary motivation for people becoming superstitious is that superstitions, especially though not only the radical varieties, provide justification for each human’s desire to impose upon other humans, even to the level of violently abusing or killing others.

      • blurkel
        August 22, 2014 at 9:59 am

        The Internet and social media are the wild cards which will change that “historical” embrace of superstition. Like the reality which religion subverts, the truth surrounds us all.

      • joesantus
        August 22, 2014 at 11:30 am

        I wish I could have confidence that the current social media will, Blurkel.

        But as I look at the majority of what is forwarded and followed on the internet by the majority of people, well… I see the internet and its digital social media being primarily used the same way as have previous information-disseminating “revolutions” (for examples, the introduction of the printing press and the advent of radio): as yet another technological means for humanity to justify and promote superstition generally and superstitions particular.

        Existential truth — objective, rational assessment of reality — is too painful for most people to chronically cope with throughout daily life and life’s often-difficult layers of struggle. So, people gladly embrace the comforts of wishful thinking offered by superstition rather than face the implications of the reality which surrounds us. To me, the bulk of what travels on the internet evidences peoples’ being as generally superstitious as ever.

      • blurkel
        August 22, 2014 at 11:45 am

        You don’t get out much, do you? FOX will cause that.

      • joesantus
        August 22, 2014 at 2:35 pm

        Nope, I don’t follow FOX nor its media equivalents, nor for that matter MSNBC nor CNN nor their media equivalents. Agenda- and/or profit-driven sources do not reliable nor rational sources of information make.

        But I do wonder what internet in which universe you’re observing to see the world becoming less superstitious.

        Here’s a suggestion (and I’m basing this on my guess that your under age 40) — file our interchange away for future reference. If in 25 years you can objectively say the world is significantly less superstitious than today, know that I’d be extremely happy to say I was wrong and you were correct. As I said in my earlier comment here, I really wish the world was becoming and would remain less and less superstitious, so I hope I’m totally wrong.

      • blurkel
        August 22, 2014 at 3:07 pm

        WRONG!

        I have already lived most of that 25 years you wanted to reserve for global observation. So my advice to you is to leave prognostication to the experts and go back to your comfort zone. That way, you won’t have to see what really is going on in the world, including an article written just today which relates how social media helped prevent the cover-up of the events in Ferguson:

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-winship/why-fergusons-about-net-n_b_5698365.html
        “The tragedy and ensuing crisis in Ferguson, Missouri, have shown the ability of social media to get the story told.”

        http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/business/media/view-of-ferguson-thrust-michael-brown-shooting-to-national-attention.html

        David Carr, New York Times:
        “Twitter has become an early warning service for news organizations, a way to see into stories even when they don’t have significant reporting assets on the ground. And in a situation hostile to traditional reporting, the crowdsourced, phone-enabled network of information that Twitter provides has proved invaluable.”

        View story at Medium.com
        Zeynep Tufekci, a fellow at Princeton’s Center for Information Technology Policy:
        “”It seems like a world ago in which such places, and such incidents, would be buried in silence, though, of course, residents knew of their own ignored plight. Now, we expect documentation, live-feeds, streaming video, real time Tweets.””

        Now put the accessibility of social media into this context:

        http://gmablog.org/2014/08/17/time-to-face-the-isis-inside-of-us/

        “In exchange for their support, Islamist groups are allowed to dominate the religious discourse with their ideology of hatred, exclusion, and intolerance – mosques, media and schools become a field to spread their ideology.” – PD Dr. Elham Manea

        This would never get out to the general public if there wasn’t the means to distribute it. No one would otherwise dare discuss this for fear of religious retribution. This topic IS being discussed, and the fact that people of many religions are questioning their so-called authorities will lead to fewer of them remaining blind believers.

        And, if you were to search “authorities shut down social media”, you will discover that the majority of nations doing so tend to be religious monarchies and other forms of backward dictatorships. The people have awakened. there is no putting them back to sleep again without more resources over people than can realistically be applied.

      • joesantus
        August 22, 2014 at 5:26 pm

        My thought is that another 25 years of life will have given you the perspective of at least 50 years of observations, from which its easier to realize how humanity and its history and events are merely constant cycles and recyclings.

        I’m not at all claiming the internet doesn’t offer quicker and broader access to information than ever before, but it takes more than information/facts to alter peoples’ instinctual motivations. If all it took was access to information, plenty of negative and irrational human tendencies would have been eliminated long before the internet.

        Plus, the internet is relatively new.It’ll require at least another 25 years to evidence the long-lasting affects of the internet on peoples’ tendencies toward being superstitious.

        And try to keep in mind the difference between “religion” as in “organized systems of belief”and “superstition” as in “any sort of belief in a supernatural”. As that Pew study evidenced, people leaving organized belief systems are not dismissing superstition — rather, they’re replacing what they left with self-made superstitions.

  7. August 22, 2014 at 10:36 am

    Why does Islam, today, have more followers than Buddhism?

    This is a nice, direct, interesting and probably important question which you utterly fail to answer satisfactorily.

    You believe a lot of B.S. if you think Islam sanctions atrocity more than the other major religions, including Buddhism, and this additional sanctioning explains the success of Islam. This appears to be the way you’ve answered your question.

    Or let me put this more nicely: show and demonstrate to me Islam actually does sanction atrocity more than the other major religions. Show me how you tally that up. Go ahead and use Islamic scriptures, the history of Islam, or the actions of contemporary Islamicists. All you want. That’s just the first thing you’ve got to do to make your point, however. You’ve also got to show the other major religions, including Buddhism, don’t contain such sanctions in their scriptures, haven’t historically sanctioned atrocity, and do not sanction these activities in the present. You’ve also got to show followers of Islam tally this the same way you do, and based on this very tally, deliberately choose Islam over the others.

    I don’t think you can do it, but I stand willing with an open mind to be shown wrong.

    If you can’t do it, I hope you’ll admit you’ve ingested and assimilated anti-Islamicist propaganda which has sought to portray Islam as the nastiest of the organized religions. ( Some of which has been generated by christians threatened by islam’s spread, nasty of the christians, and disguising considerable slaughter in the ME over the last fifteen years. How many noncombatant or combatant Americans have actually been killed compared to how many noncombatant or combatant Iraqis or Afghanis, and how is it we still think of the Islamists as the terrorists, the extremists? The religion which over others sanctions pitiless slaughter?)

  8. August 23, 2014 at 12:26 pm

    http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/video-north-st-louis-shooting-tells

    Chuck Ross is probably fapping to this right now…

  9. August 27, 2014 at 6:38 pm
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      August 28, 2014 at 2:41 am

      Omigod it’s my hero Dayve Fattrolle!

      Dayve, I’ve uploaded a new jam to my blog. This jam is named after my favourite blogger and intellectual bedfellow:

      It’s received millions of views, so I guess all those years of drinking beer and practicing my music skills have finally paid off!

  10. masculineffort
    September 2, 2014 at 6:55 am

    Buddhism does not sanction looking down on unbelievers. It does not concern itself with unbelievers at all. It concerns itself only with happiness. And it does not sanction belief without trial either. Hope this clears all misconceptions about Buddhism.

    • September 3, 2014 at 11:06 am

      Buddhism does not sanction looking down on unbelievers.

      Of course it doesn’t. That doesn’t mean, even slightly, buddhists don’t look down upon, and slaughter, nonbelievers.

      It does not concern itself with unbelievers at all. It concerns itself only with happiness. And it does not sanction belief without trial either.

      Of course it doesn’t. It can rely upon people coming to it as naturally as people come to happiness naturally. It is so, so wonderful.

      “Belief without trial.”

      That’s right you know. There are buddhist tribunals and gatekeepers, torturers, and sadists just as there are muslim, christian, and jewish. I see you are very familiar with Tibetan buddhists and their choice selections for “belief with trial.”

      Hope this clears all misconceptions about Buddhism.

      Of course it does. It clears up the misconception buddhism appears in a favorable light because for some not undeterminable reason it is advantageous for someone somewhere to slant propaganda pro-buddhist uber alles.

      • P Ray
        September 3, 2014 at 10:19 pm

        As funny as it sounds, every religious person is not representative of their religion because there is not a single NON-denominational Abrahamic or Eastern religion with definitive practices that have stayed the same throughout the time of origin up to the present day.
        (Flying Spaghetti Monster and Jedi excepted, but I must admit my knowledge of them is scanty).
        This of course, leads to the truism: people may be a-holes, regardless of being religious or not.
        It’s just that the religious have an immediate “gang” they can call on for support to bolster their views against “unbelievers/differently believing”.

    • joesantus
      September 23, 2014 at 12:20 pm

      “Buddhism does not sanction looking down on unbelievers….”

      Neither do the (so-named) New Testament Scriptures sanction looking down on unbelievers. The message of “Iesus the Christ”, as claimed by Matthew, Luke, John, Paul and the other alleged authors of that set of writings, is that believers (along with living “righteously” themselves, striving to avoid “sin” in thought, word, and action) are to love even their enemies, to do good to all people including unbelievers, not only never to retaliate but not even to speak evil about others; and never to force nor legislate unbelievers to do “right” or act “Christian”, believing that unbelievers are accountable not to any mortal believer, but to “Almighty God”.

      But, while “Christism” (as the set of beliefs and divinely-revealed teachings) does not sanction looking down on unbelievers, obviously Christians as a whole fail or refuse to follow (or, for various reasons and/or justifications have not even carefully studied the entirety of the New Testament Scriptures so fail to actually know) the message and teachings they profess to believe. Likewise, neither do Buddhists as a whole follow Buddhism.

      Belief sets such as Christism and Buddhism may be idyllic “on paper”, but they’re, at best, impractical (and often outright impossible) for a human species biochemically wired for “self-ness” with its various expressions as selfishness, greed, lusts, self-serving, intolerance, hatred, suspicion, prejudice, and fear. Most if not virtually all believers fail to consistently behave according to what’s “sanctioned/not sanctioned” because the core teachings cannot be adhered to with the instincts and natures humans possess.

  11. September 3, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    oh hai Avocato Despicabicaboli….

    do you nopt have an English accent?

    http://kshatriya-anglobitch.blogspot.com/2014/08/foley-corruption-and-lies-male-sexual.html

    tehheehee, is Rokh the father of the manosphere and you and Roosh his bastard sons???

  12. anon
    December 18, 2014 at 12:48 pm

  1. September 24, 2014 at 5:52 pm

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