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Some Thoughts on the Recent MetroJet Crash: Nov 8, 2015

Speculation about events leading to the crash of Metrojet Flight 9268 over the northern Sinai peninsula just over a week ago has increasingly dominated by paid talking heads on western media calling it an act of terrorism by ISIS. A more objective look at the evidence surrounding the crash, especially its context and the reaction of countries not directly affected by it suggests an alternative explanation.

The very short version of the alternative explanation is: The MetroJet 9268 crash was caused by an explosive device planted on the plane by people working for one or more western countries- most likely the USA. A somewhat longer version of the explanation requires us to first understand the context in which this incident occurred as well as note the peculiar timelines of official and unofficial western responses to it.

The USA has been engaged in a futile attempt to restore its standing in the world, especially vis-a-vis- Russia, to what it was in the 1991-1996 era. It is also very obvious that this is not going to happen, for a number of very obvious reasons such as subsequent large-scale irreversible socio-economic changes in the world. But as Upton Sinclair once wrote- “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” Consequently the establishment in USA (and their upper-middle class servants) persist in trying to achieve what is obviously a lost cause. It does not help that many older Americans above a certain age desperately want to believe in a world that has not changed since the days of their youth. The nature of wage employment in the USA also ensures that people continue working for obviously doomed organisations and agendas.

It is no secret that the USA has been very unhappy with the stabilization, growth and resurgence of Russia within the last decade- especially since 2006. The USA has tried to instigate some of Russia’s neighboring countries to enter in overt, or indirect, confrontations with it. A couple of them (Georgia and Ukraine) were stupid enough to believe in empty promises of economic and military help from the USA and enter into overt confrontations with Russia. We all know who won both those confrontations. To make a long story short, Russia has shown that it quite capable of standing up for its own national interests and prevailing in the ensuing confrontations. Russia has also shown that it (unlike the USSR) is adept at wielding flexible combinations of diplomacy, force and economic power with more skill than the USA.

It is therefore not surprising that the supposedly “objective” western media aka presstitutes have, on the orders of their government handlers, been busy publishing stories about how bad things are in Russia. I am sure that many of you must have come across multiple stories along those lines- especially within the last two years. Curiously, all these supposedly “objective” stories are come in a few flavors and are incredibly formulaic. The most common flavors are as follows: 1] Made up or wildly exaggerated accounts about how much the Russian economy is suffering from western economic sanction, 2] How the current crops of oligarchs want Putin gone, 3] Highly exaggerated or made up accounts of political opposition to the current regime in that country and 4] Recycled bullshit about how Russia is losing its place in the world.

While such stories have little to no connection with reality, they do serve two major purposes for those peddling and promoting them. Firstly, they let the average partisan idiot in the west (especially the USA) imagine that they are “winning” against Russia. Secondly, such stories keep many presstitues employed and connected to the power structure in the USA. Just to be clear, I am not claiming that any country, including Russia, is a utopia or even close to one. But what do you say when, USA, a country that imprisons more people than any in the world and engages in mass spying against its own citizens pretends to be morally superior to all others in the world. I could give many more examples of this doublethink. My point is that the USA today utterly lacks the public image and moral authority to criticize other countries- but that has never stopped them from trying.

But what does any of this have to do with an alternative explanation for the crash of MetroJet flight 9268? Well.. as it turns out, a lot.

1] Did anyone of you notice that western MSM outlets were pushing the narrative of that flight being blown up by a surface-to-air missile or bomb on board within 12 hours of that incident. Isn’t that rather quick to push such claims, especially in the absence of definitive evidence? Isn’t it also odd that a number of different MSM outlets were pushing an almost identically worded story even though some attributed it to sources in the USA while others to sources in the UK?

2] Did you notice that the MSM almost simultaneously dropped the surface-to-air missile theory after it became evident that many others knew that the plane in question was flying at cruising altitude (around 10,000 m)? Why would they do that? Could it be because only state supported militias have easy access to missiles that can reach aircraft that high? Were they lying or were they trying to hide something?

3] How many of you found the claims by USA of a satellite detecting the infrared signal of an explosion on that airliner a bit odd? While the capacity to do so has existed for a few decades and is accessible to many other countries, isn’t it odd that a low orbit spy satellite with such equipment travelling at a high speed relative to the ground just happened to be perfectly placed to record something on an airliner that itself was travelling around 900 km/hr in a different direction. Talk about coincidence.. In my opinion, the USA is either making up that claim or it knew about the fate of that airliner in advance.

4] Did you notice how many “objective” presstitutes are trying to connect it with the recent Russian military intervention in Syria? Why have we not seen attacks like this on British, French and American flights from that airport in Egypt during the last 4 years? An airport with poor general security would pose a hazard for all airplanes flying out of that place, and the USA (and its prison bitch aka the UK) has been supposedly involved in battling ISIS for the last 2-3 years.

5] It is no secret that the USA (and its prison bitch aka the UK) have been supporting religious extremists in the middle east for decades. We all know how the USA openly funded and armed the Taliban to fight in Afghanistan. We also know what that ultimately led to. Similarly, it is common knowledge that the USA has funded, armed and encouraged the very fundamentalist groups in the Middle East and North Africa which it now claims to fight. Who is to say that the USA did not provide financial and material support to some group that planted an explosive device on that airplane?

6] We still cannot say with certainty if Russia-backed rebels or the west-backed Ukrainian government or local Ukrainian militias shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. I should point out that the most likely missile involved in that incident is in service with Ukraine as well as Russia. Who is to say that incident was not engineered by the west-backed Ukranian government to make Russia retreat under international pressure? Of course, the last bit never happened and Russia (and russia-backed rebels) held their ground.

Perhaps the USA thinks that it can pressure the Russians to stop their military intervention in Syria by paying or assisting fundamentalist groups in Egypt to blow up a Russian airliner. Perhaps they think that Russians are stupid enough to believe western media in 2015. Perhaps they imagine that their antics will remain hidden. Perhaps they also believe that Russia won’t respond to such acts by replying in kind. I am not so sure..

What do you think? Comments?

  1. Mike
    November 8, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    Yes, I also thought of nearly every one of the points you made regarding both Russia and the USA. I think the USA’s motive, if they did indeed conspire to blow up the aircraft, may be to draw Russia into is arms as a cooperative power, where they can be controlled and subverted. I noted in Fridays NYT, 11/7, Russia said it may be open to joining its investigation to the FBI. The NTSB generally is the investigative authority in airplane crashes, and the FBI is supposed to involved with domestic crime. How exactly is a plane crash in the Sinai a domestic crime issue? ( so is that and admission of complicity by the USA government? ) Well in all fairness, it was reported in the NYT, so its probably written by a Ivy league grad who doesn’t know the FBI from the CIA/NSA/Capcom/FedEx hotline.

  2. Ed
    November 9, 2015 at 5:49 am

    “The most common flavors are as follows: 1] Made up or wildly exaggerated accounts about how much the Russian economy is suffering from western economic sanction, 2] How the current crops of oligarchs want Putin gone, 3] Highly exaggerated or made up accounts of political opposition to the current regime in that country and 4] Recycled bullshit about how Russia is losing its place in the world.”

    I’ve noticed the same formula used in coverage of Brazil.

  3. November 9, 2015 at 11:04 am

    how come you don’t go to russia with your boi roosh?

    aren’t there lots of escorts there?

  4. webe
    November 9, 2015 at 11:40 am

    It is noteworthy that the USA has assets which confirm there was no missile and that there was an explosion. When MH-17 was shot down, NATO (which was in the midst of operation Sea Breeze in the Black Sea [satellites, AWACS, the whole shabang, with emphasis on co-ordination, intelligence, logistics]) apparently saw nothing. The USA has latch-key satellites to identify the possible launch of ICBM’s from Russia (if you don’t see satellite launches, there is little nuclear deterrence), but absolutely no information or photos were ever released. Yes there were a few grainy photos by globalSat released on Twitter by Geoffrey Pyat (ambasador to the Ukraine), far worse resolution than the pictures on their website which show individual vehicles quite sharply. Do you think somebody at the Pentegon told a junior aid: drive across town and get us some photos from globalSat, but take the older kind — they’re a lot cheaper! Oh yeah, and get them to the ambassador in Kiev. Tell him to put it on Twitter.

    The Ukraine is obviously chief suspect for the MH-17 shooting. Neither Russia or the militants had anything to gain, so only an accident would be convincing possibility. The Ukraine did in fact gain in the propaganda & sanctions war. They were the first side to level accusations. They are the only party of which we know that they had BUKs operational in the theatre (why? Neither the militants or Russia were flying anything you could shoot at). Ukraine’s SBU immediately posted “proof” of Russian involvement on social media. Most of these video’s have been proven to be spurious (video of BUKs 60 km away in March, identifiable by bill board and other footage with license plates; audio tape, proved doctored by changing noise levels and date time stamps, etc etc). Now why would Ukrainian intelligence post spurious evidence within hours of the incident, reaching conclusions before anybody else? Why did the Ukraine step up the war in the area? To block investigators and journalists?

    In global affairs, just as in regular crime and conspiracy, you should follow the money and normal forensic patterns of suspicion. The first person who says “No, he did it” and “I wasn’t at the corner of Bell and Main streets at 10:23” should always be the chief suspect. Even without positive physical evidence, when a party comes up with lies, a shifting story, fake evidence, accusations — you already know something is amiss (think of the USA attempt to explain their bombing of a hospital in Konduz). Or think of NORAD’s four explanations of why they failed to intercept a single plane on 9/11. Would you believe a kid when he gets to his fourth explanation.

    Although there is little to go on with Metrojet Flight 9268 (will probably never be solved), I agree that Western intelligence services belong right at the top of the list of suspects.

  5. A.B Prosper
    November 9, 2015 at 1:14 pm

    AD, presstitute is a wonderful term though its a bit derogatory to the Lady’s of the Evening of whom at least some have integrity.

    • November 9, 2015 at 4:48 pm

      hahahaha,

      prostitutes laugh at their customers after the fact and wash up a bit disgusted with themselves afterowrds….

      prestitutes laugh at the public for believing them and wash up a bit disgusted with themselves afterwords….

  6. The Plague Doctor
    • November 15, 2015 at 2:46 pm

      haha….

      why don’t you accept roosh and jack donovan into your shithole country…

      I don’t you in mine…

      • November 15, 2015 at 6:44 pm

      • Stoner With A Boner Up His Ass
        November 16, 2015 at 4:56 am

        Hahahahahaha…..

        Roosh 5 is a faggot…..

        Hahahahahahahahahahahaha….

        Jack Don-0-van…..

        ……… is a faggot……

        Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahaha……

        I am a comedic gENIOUS……

      • November 16, 2015 at 9:38 am

        hahaha Plaque Dr is a fascist and so are they….

        Fuck you!

        Actually, that is correct.

      • Stoner With A Boner Up His Ass
        November 16, 2015 at 9:28 pm

        Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…..

  7. May 15, 2016 at 5:23 pm

    Actually the US is the UK’s prison bitch, as is Canada, Australia and New Zealand. That whole War of Independence was faked. The British Empire simply became the British Commonweealth. What proof? Ask any lawyer what the Bar Association really means.

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