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Why Hillary Clinton is Losing in Polls to Donald Trump: 3

In the second post of this series, I put forth the idea that a significant part of popular support for Trump’s candidacy is a reaction to the almost unanimous support of HRC by establishment elites and their upper-middle class enablers. It is no secret that a rapidly growing majority of the population has lost faith in the competence and ability of establishment elites and their flunkies (aka “credentialed experts and Professionals”) to keep the system from imploding on itself. As some of you might know, this issue has been the subject of many posts on this blog- including some of the first ones I wrote in 2010.

It is also no secret that the establishment media and “objective credentialed experts” are trying very hard to persuade people to not vote for Trump.. and it is not working. But why is that the case? Why are most people ignoring the constant stream of distortions, lies and scams put forth by the mainstream media, “celebrities” and “credentialed experts”? Why did people appear to trust and believe them in the past but now ignore them? What makes people today so much less likely to believe in what “opinion leaders”, “celebrities” and “public intellectuals” say? While I have covered some of the interlocking reasons for the now irreversible decline in public opinion about them in previous posts, there are a few issues especially relevant to the rise of Trump that could use some more illumination.

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About 2-3 weeks ago, an angry HRC asked “Why am I not 50 points ahead?” during a televised interview. While that rhetorical question has since become a subject of much amusement to people throughout the country, I believe that an honest answer to that question highlights one of the major problems facing establishment elite in the USA- and indeed throughout the west. As many of you probably know, the mainstream media and “public intellectuals” blame everything from sexism to her multi-decade presence in national politics for her unpopularity. However the surprise and frustration expressed by HRC in that interview has far deeper roots than mere unpopularity. The question she is really asking is as follows- Why are so people willing to trust a political novice like Trump over a “credentialed expert” like her?

The answer to that question goes something like this.. “credentials” and “experience” are, at best, proxy markers for real-life ability and competence.

Let me illustrate that point with a couple of examples. Consider a population which believes that their health-care system is the “best” in the world because it looks, sounds and feels impressive and “professional”. Most readers will immediately realize that the way a system looks, sounds and feels has no real link to it being excellent or even good. But let us imagine that the population of said country is delusional or stupid enough to buy such associations and lacks an external frame of reference to suspect otherwise. Now ask yourself- How long can this charade continue without the population openly losing faith in the system and its “credentialed professionals”? Based on my observations about the healthcare system in USA, repeated negative experiences with the system are the single biggest contributor to loss of faith in it. While external reference frames and decentralized flow of information definitely speed up the process, personal experiences are by far the largest and most powerful drivers for loss of faith in any given system.

Another example of this phenomenon can be seen in the generally negative perception of corporations capitalism among the under-40 age group in USA. Many “public intellectuals” believe that such perceptions in that age group has to do with them being entitled or spoiled. But as we know, it is the “public intellectuals” who are full of shit. Baby boomers (and older generations) have a more positive perception of corporations and capitalism largely because both appeared to largely deliver on their promises at some point in their lives (mostly between 1950s-1970s). In contrast to that- neither of the two have delivered anything about stagnation, misery and precariousness to anyone born after the very early 1970s. Consequently propaganda, regardless of scale or extent, is incapable of making most non-retarded people born after 1970 see corporations and capitalism in positive terms.

The willingness to vote for a political novice like Trump over a “credentialed” system insider like HRC in 2016 is, therefore, largely a consequence of many tens of millions of people having had multiple and sustained negative experiences with voting for the political status quo. To put it another way, no amount of hand wringing and scare mongering by the elites and their enablers will change the actual levels of popular support for Trump’s presidential campaign.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. ernie
    October 7, 2016 at 1:06 pm

    National Polls are changing and people are coming around. Hillary is presently leading trump by double digits in some polls.

    Can you really trust supposedly objective “polls” when they keep on exhibiting large swings even though both candidates have over 99% name recognition in USA before they became their party’s candidates?

  2. Atlanta Man
    October 8, 2016 at 8:39 am

    First- Polls mean nothing because what people will say over a phone to a pollster, and for that matter in public, is just how they wish to be viewed at that moment in time. I am voting for Trump, but in public or if polled I will say I am voting for HRC.

    Second- Trump excites people to the point that they are going to get up and vote. They will stand in line, get up early, miss work, and do what ever it takes to vote for him. Think how Barack voters were in 2008, that is how poor white people are for Trump in 2016.

    Third- There is no enthusiasm for HRC except among the liberal elite. Journalists, feminists and DC insiders love her, the public does not. Look at her rallies, no one is there.

    Fourth-The mainstream media has jumped the shark when they screwed Bernie. No one cares about their opinions, think pieces , or endorsements. When they use shaming language against Trump no one cares, he just gets more support.

    This election is a toss up, but I still think Trump is going to win.


    I agree.. and also predict that this election will be seen as the pivotal event that caused most people in USA to finally and openly lose trust in the current system.

  3. October 9, 2016 at 11:18 am

    ….And lose trust in the media more than ever before. Thankfully the internet (so far relatively not censured) is becoming if not already the best source to qualify information regardless of main stream media “fact scammers”

    • P Ray
      October 10, 2016 at 3:46 pm

      First was Duterte, then was Brexit, I figure lastly will be Trump. At least for this year.
      Funnily enough after the first event, people were still thinking that “in other places, regular citizens will side with the all-knowing elite”.
      Expect more changes around the world with other elections too, since the economic slowdown is global, and the old ways of doing things (that only benefited the elite, and as a side effect some regular citizens) is over.

      • October 10, 2016 at 3:56 pm

        I don’t think Trump will “help the common man.” But I do think Hitlery’s bossy top down style ala Paul Elam and the AVfM loser crew doesn’t work in this day and age. (As I’ve said before) curious about a company, go to glassdoor, curious about a restaurant, go to yelp. We all know the reviews can be gamed, but if someone has a discriminating eye, they can get part of the real story.

        Of course- he won’t help the common man, but many people are voting for him to burn down the status quo.

      • P Ray
        October 10, 2016 at 7:55 pm

        ^ True about that (not sure if Trump is going to help the common man) …
        but what’s also true is that quite a few people, they’re not voting for Trump because they like him … they’re voting for Trump because they hate Hillary.


        Yes and many people are also voting for Trump because they want to destroy the status quo, not because they believe what he says.

  4. Yusef
    October 13, 2016 at 8:48 am

    I’m starting to question Trump as “what you see is what you get,” that he is his own man, and that his celebrity is somehow his own creation. There’s something going on behind the scenes we know nothing about. Whatever that is, it is more important to Trump’s success than his appeal (if it can be called that) to the populace. As P Ray says, people aren’t going to vote for Trump because they “like” him. They don’t like him, as evidenced by his extraordinarily low approval ratings.

    You know, it is possible organized crime is behind Trump, that Trump is fronting the mob.. (He’s rubbed shoulders with the mob in Atlantic City and you don’t do that. The mob uses you– you don’t use the mob.) Trump’s success might manifest this shift: ultimately organized crime now holds more effective power than any of what has been established power in the U.S. .

  1. October 9, 2016 at 3:31 pm

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