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USA Lacks Realistic Strategy Towards DPRKs Nuclear ICBM Program: 1

Let me begin this post by posing a fairly straightforward question: Is the current strategy of USA, Japan and South Korea towards the nuclear and missile programs of DPRK (let alone the government of that country) based in reality? You might have already figured out that my short version of the answer is a big “NO”.

One of my previous post on this general topic did explore how racism and magical thinking have historically shaped american policy towards DPRK. It largely focuses on how we reached this point and why miscalculations due to lazy thinking could have very serious effects on destinies of multiple countries involved in the current standoff.

But coming back to the topic at hand, let us talk about the bunch of delusions that pass for american “strategy” towards the nuclear and missile program of DPRK. I will also talk about how the delusional policies of USA reinforce the equally nutty policies of Japan and South Korea on those issues.

The official stance of USA is that it will not negotiate with DPRK unless the later agrees to give up its nuclear weapons and missiles. Now, even a half-sensible person will immediately recognize that DPRK is simply not going to give up its most cost-effective insurance policies against armed invasion or “color revolution” by USA and its allies.

Moreover, the history of interactions between DPRK and USA- specifically the unsuccessful american attempt to kill all north Koreans during the Korean war in the early 1950s and the unwillingness of USA to fulfill its end of the 1994 nuclear agreement, make it almost impossible for them to trust the USA.

It is also important to understand that DPRKs relations with China and Russia have, over the years, had their own ups and downs. This is why regime in Pyongyang has always been so obsessed with self-reliance and self-sufficiency. The concept of Juche is much more than a simple feel good slogan for them.

So now let us talk about how the USA and its east-asian allies have responded to DPRKs nuclear and missile program since 2006, when it conducted its first nuclear test. But first a little relevant history..

In late-1994, DPRK agreed to freeze its nuclear weapon program in exchange for urgently needed fuel oil, two somewhat ‘proliferation-resistant’ nuclear reactors and future normalization of political and economic relations and a future guarantee that USA would not attack DPRK or attempt regime change in Pyongyang.

However, USA was never serious about sticking to its end of the so-called “Agreed Framework” and after 3-4 years, it became obvious that they were trying take DPRK for a ride. In response, DPRK slowly but surely went about restarting its nuclear weapon program. Long story short.. by early 2002, that agreement was dead when Bush43 officially labelled DPRK as part of the “axis of evil”.

The most important lesson DPRK learned from this episode can be stated as follows: Any agreement with USA is not worth the piece of paper it is written on unless you have the ability to credibly threaten them with nuclear weapons for breaking the agreement. I would go so far as to say that after January 2002, it became virtually impossible for DPRK to ever give up nuclear weapons or the means to deliver them.

Sure.. there were a few attempts after 2002 to restart talks on that or similar agreements, but it was obvious to external observers they were not destined (or even meant) to succeed. However the biggest change in DPRKs policy in both areas came after Kim Jong-un replaced his father, Kim Jong-il. But why would that be so? Why would the son take a far more aggressive stand on these issues than his father?

I believe that it comes down to the era in which they grew up. Both Kim Jong-un’s father and grandfather grew up in an era where white people from predominantly white countries lorded over the world and appeared invincible. He however grew up in an era and environment where he was able to see that white people from predominantly white countries were no smarter, competent or better than somebody like him.

Unlike his father and grandfather, he came of age in an era where the ‘west’ is in terminal decline. He also saw that non-white countries around the world, including neighboring China, were taking the ‘west’ to the cleaners. It is therefore not surprising that after taking over from his father, he decided to pour a lot of personal and resources into the nuclear and missile program.

Interestingly, he did the same for the civilian sectors of DPRK- which suggests that he has a pretty clear plan of action. However western “experts” spend all their time hyping up questionable accounts of his treatment of people who fell out of his favor and masturbate themselves to thoughts of him being a stupid and ego-driven person, when all objective evidence shows him to be a competent, if ruthless, leader.

That is not to say that he is a great human being, but then again Eisenhower was responsible for the death of over 3 million civilians in Korea, Nixon for 3-5 million in Cambodia and Vietnam and Bush43 for about 1 million in Iraq and Afghanistan. My point is that he is no better, or worse, than any generic american president.

In the upcoming post of this series, I will explore how the unwillingness of establishment in USA to confront the fact that they are living in 2017 rather than 1994 is making them do really stupid and useless things which are diminishing their credibility in other countries. I will also talk about how the policies of Japan and South Korea towards DPRK are also based in a strange combination of delusion and make-believe.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. hoipolloi
    September 24, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    AD: I see a paradigm shift in terms of U.S. imperialism and foreign policy. This is not Korea of the 50’s, not Vietnam of the 60’s, not Grenada, not Iraq, not Afghanistan, again not Iraq second time. DPRK is in the catbird seat. This may be good in general terms. A bipolar world instead of unquestioned U.S. power grab.

    You mean multipolar world?

  2. Rum
    September 24, 2017 at 11:20 pm

    I am from the part of the USA that, when the time came, to pull the trigger, the trigger got pulled.

    • Rum
      September 26, 2017 at 10:16 pm

      Mr. Short, Little, and Small Rocket Man have a problem. .. There is nothing he can do, in this life, to undo the verdict that nature, (her-own-cruel-bitch self ) has proclaimed about him.

      Back in the day…Bill Gates and his friends called their new company “Microsoft” ; as in; we have small limp dicks. Which was in reality a normal middle school school-yard way of saying that we actually have a stupendously huge and rock hard… operating system.

  3. Libertarians are subhumans
    September 25, 2017 at 5:14 am

    After seeing you retweet something from him i’ve started following Snowden’s twitter,but just a few days ago i’ve had the displeasure of seeing him retweet anti-porn garbage from a feminist.

  4. webej
    September 25, 2017 at 6:15 am

    I do fear for the sense of reality of a guy who is trying to substitute subsidizing coal for the future in the place of solar (3000x as cheap as 30 years ago, price/performance improving by 14%/annum exponentially, doubling time 5 years) all because China burns fossil fuels (but installed more solar last year than the rest of the world combined). Or bringing back manufacturing jobs which nowadays have too little added value to bring a decent livelihood. I think he is back in the fifties.
    As for how honourable the people in the “axis of good” are, review some of the agreements and treaties that were made with the native population in the 18th and 19th century.
    I think the American bubble will be pricked in the near future, and they will thrash about like a dying beast, discovering they are about to lose any “friends” they thought they had.

    • September 25, 2017 at 9:43 pm

      I think it’s tacitly understood any substantial agreement must be based on the power relationships that actually exist. For instance, no one is surprised the USA did not honor its treaties with the Indians. The power differential was too great for anyone to really take that seriously. The US is not unique in behaving that way, as with most things when you boil down to the fundamentals of sex, power, and status: on that level humans really are pretty much universal across time and place.
      The US bubble has already been pricked and the Pentagon’s silly North Korea posturing is a panicked thrashing motion as is the NFL allowing its 85 IQ employees off the leash to alienate their customer base; a blunder that will cost them billions of dollars and irreplaceable cultural prestige. Likewise, google making James Damore an international superstar instead of handling the matter internally also speaks for itself. One by one, institutions that seemed implacable just yesterday are trying their best to commit suicide.

      • September 25, 2017 at 11:19 pm

        Another retard………..

        “NFL allowing its 85 IQ employees off the leash to alienate their customer base”

        Just say nigger and get it over with. Stop being a fucking coward…. Also, you should realize that the NFL’s customer base is VARIED, not just white people, bud…. If the NFL fired all kneelers, it would fuck them HARDER than them doing nothing. They are smart…. Reason? WHO THE FUCK STANDS AT HOME WHEN THE ANTHEM IS PLAYED DURING A GAME??? They KNOW you cracker-jacks are just being salty… all talk, no REAL boycott… Their bottom line will be affected LEAST (negatively) by doing what they are doing.

        “…..irreplaceable cultural prestige”

        I love how you guys talk in codes man, it’s hilarious. You think ur slick but YOU AREN’T… Define “cultural prestige”

        “…..google making James Damore an international superstar”

        Google didnt do that…. Salty ass loser white males did. You self victimizing fucks cling to that faggot like he’s some kind of nerd god…. man fuck him.

        “One by one, institutions that seemed implacable just yesterday are trying their best to commit suicide.”

        They commit suicide bc they are run by selfish hubris filled white men, like you, who cant handle the consolation prize of life that you are being handed more and more as of late….

      • P Ray
        September 26, 2017 at 4:30 am

        One by one, institutions that seemed implacable just yesterday are trying their best to commit suicide.
        That’s because those institutions are, on the higher side, filled with people not exposed to reality or indoctrinated that “style beats substance” and “inspiration trumps qualifications” (despite never having built anything with their own two hands)

      • September 26, 2017 at 5:38 am

        @TakeMuhMoney had I phrased things as you suggest I think you would have burst a vein in your temple, most unfortunate, my friend. Other groups can say what they want about European-Americans, so they are wimpy little hypocrites when they start hyperventilating into a paper bag at the slightest comment they don’t like. What a joke how you get all offended and start screaming in allcaps.

      • September 26, 2017 at 9:34 am

        “…..wimpy little hypocrites”

        If you and I met in real life you would apologize, like a faggot, and turn around….

        “….I phrased things as you suggest”

        No, you faggot, the suggestion was YOURS. I can read you idiots like a book, and you hide your true thoughts behind certain key phrases/talking points because…. you’re cowards. You can ad ho, all you want (in fact I invite it because you suck at it and it amuses me) but at least try to fit a rebuttal in somewhere…. You literally offered ZERO rebuttal…. Where is your high IQ thought process?? Please enlighten this humble, low IQ nigger….

        P.S. White people smell like wet dogs, and your women ALL secretly like/want black dudes… ALL OF THEM

      • September 26, 2017 at 9:35 am

        ad-hom*

      • azn
        September 26, 2017 at 1:50 pm

        Keep living in the hbd world and count IQ scores dimwit. U r a loser who got nothing and want to feel better by putting others down. Sadly it is over for your kind

      • September 26, 2017 at 2:34 pm

        We have an azn now too? It’s like a cartoon, each racial rep with a colored power ring. “With our powers combined…this is CAPTAIN DIVERSITY!”
        In seriousness, though the absurdity of a coalition of the fringes is its members share no common interests besides perceiving themselves as enemies of Europeans. This is not enough of a uniting principle and they already compete with each other.

      • azn
        September 27, 2017 at 3:20 am

        Read some history, warring groups have always coordinated to exterminate a hated common enemy

      • September 27, 2017 at 11:36 am

        Of course there’s always going to be a king of the hill dynamic against whatever group is perceived as most powerful. I’m just pointing out that it’s not necessarily rational. Why do you guys hate Europeans besides their being dominant for awhile? Would you hate the next top dog just as much?
        And as an Asian, you should understand you have the lowest rank in the coalition of the fringes. You will get very little out of that alliance and if your side loses, the winners will remember where each faction’s loyalties lay when it mattered most.

      • September 27, 2017 at 4:45 pm

        Since you seem to enjoy being dismissive while refusing to outright express certain ideas that I’ve accused you of harboring (while at the same time indirectly defending and promoting said ideas…. you say you support HBD but then seem bemused at my CONSTANT accusations of you being a fucking racist POS.) Condescension doesn’t bode well in the hands of a coward, it just makes you look weak and fragile, tbh. I’ve taken the liberty of reading your shitty manifesto on your blog and… well… LOL

        “We need to determine what sort of social order is appropriate for this new world borrowing the most effective components from modern and ancient times to create a new system.
        The unclaimed prize is great.
        The first society to come up with an effective new formula will dominate the world effortlessly as Europeans, Muslims, Romans, or Greeks did in turn.”

        FIRST define “We” …. Also, it makes ZERO sense to attempt to provide a narrative of a world that has been largely defined by the effective equalization of weapons, at least in terms of being considered damaging enough to prevent widespread, global war….. thus far (nukes), and then go on to present a world being dominated “effortlessly” by a single society (obviously you are hoping to usher in/be a part of said society).

        Unless you are a genius, and have developed a weapon that can render nukes useless, and out damage them simultaneously, then your world dominating society isn’t happening any time soon… Also, consider this: How much further can humanity sustain itself under ANY “Might is right” philosophy?? “Dominating the world” is a model that humanity either will outgrow, or will die by, but I doubt your feeble mind could comprehend a world not dictated solely by the threat of violence….

        “…..give incentives to those who you want to see more of in the next generation.”
        Again, define “you”…. The obvious subtext is why I call you and your type racists… You THINK I hate all white people, because you are stupid. I do not… Race as defined by people like you (white, black etc) ISN’T REAL…. But you won’t let it go, Mr. “HBD” and I know it defines you, so I enjoy trolling you fucks…

        I don’t hate you because you are “white”, I hate you because you are white FIRST and FOREMOST… That hatred falls on whites because of demographics, not inherent nature… Also because I’ve run the odds, and the outcome (based on asshats like you) is bleak as shit… If black people were the major demographic, and were parading the views you racists have, I’d be on them JUST as hard… that goes for any group, bc those race based views you/they etc hold are retarded….

        “A dictatorship may be pleasant and effective enough if most people are smart and conscientious.”
        “People can subvert or find loopholes in any system you care to devise.”
        ….
        How one person can be this stupid is beyond me…. Just THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU WROTE and why it’s stupid… HINT: the rebuttal you are about to offer about controlling for IQ in the future via eugenics, to bring about the outcome u typed above FAILS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE LIMITATIONS/ILLEGITIMACY OF IQ, AND IT’S PERCEIVED MEANINGS. Life is complex, and your worldview points to you being highly autistic…. I’m sure some “Borg” like future would be seen as ideal to you… this is why you live alone and will die alone fyi….

        “Jews have disproportionate influence but not to blame for all the world’s evils.
        I consider it necessary to exclude them from the public service and finance.
        As a group, they have a disquieting tendency to favor destructive policies in nations where they are minorities yet do a complete 180 turn when it comes to how Israel is run”

        Ok and I could just as easily say **I** deem it necessary to kill all white people (I dont) or those “High IQ Jews” could say that YOU are too stupid to live, and should be bred out via eugenics, etc…. The level of selfishness people like you harbor in a world where science has accomplish as much as it has, just shows that YOU ARE A SOCIOPATH who hides behind intelligence… PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID….

        I’m gonna let you in on a little secret, dumbass… The only issue that needs to be addressed is that of alleviating SPECIFIC levels of scarcity, across the planet WHILE AT THE SAME TIME NURTURING BALANCED, NET GAIN COMPETITION…. It wouldn’t even be that hard, and it could be done GLOBALLY and DEMOCRATICALLY, however, because there are SO MANY MORONS like you on this planet, it wont happen…. I’m assuming AD ran the odds…. probably agrees with me IDK but FAGGOTS LIKE YOU are going to see this world go up in flames just to prove a point, on an issue that you have been REPEATEDLY proven wrong about ie white supremacy…. Just die…. You and those like you seriously just, fucking… die….

      • September 27, 2017 at 7:01 pm

        After the fanatical screeds you have written here you’re really going to try to assume some kind of moral high ground by calling me a racist? Wut a joke.
        Your history on this thread shows you have a clear understanding of a concept of race and that you identify heavily with a race. U can’t believably walk that back now.
        You’ve made it very clear how you’d behave if you were in charge.
        You openly revel in fantasies of violence and death yet you want to tell me I am some kind of sociopath. You have no credibility left to say these things and be taken seriously.

        Nukes make “conventional” warfare suicidal but there are many other types of competition as well as warfare prosecuted by non-state organizations.

        I understand you and others disagree with the premise of HBD. This is not new to me. Thus far it has been a useful explanatory and predictive heuristic. If I encounter a model that better describes reality, I will happily discard HBD.

        I think everyone wants a better society but if you have big redistribution programs without eugenics and limits on fertility, you soon end up with a Malthusian crisis despite having the best intentions.

      • September 27, 2017 at 7:52 pm

        Where did I mention “morality” ????? “Morality” is subjective…. a nuclear holocaust is NOT…. dumbass

        “You’ve made it very clear how you’d behave if you were in charge.”

        Actually no, before that post, I did NOT, do that… The idea of one person “being in charge” is retarded anyway, and is another part of your endless autism…. You’re the one blogging about being god, essentially….

        I already told you why I enjoy talking about seeing white people (LIKE YOU) die horribly, the only reason AGAIN I enjoy speaking broadly about whites is because you guys sure have NO problem calling all of us “low IQ niggers” “animals” “criminals” etc… so have a taste of that shit… Bc I have been BAPTIZED in it for my whole FUCKING life…. Why whould I approach racist faggots like you with ANY semblance of accurate definitions, when you clearly just want “niggers
        dead????? FUCK YOU!

        I’ve attempted to navigate every other possible logical avenue, in terms of dialogue with people like you and now I’m just gonna troll, and watch the whole thing go up in smoke… I also engage people like you so I can hear the current racist linguistics you fucks use, so I can look out for it IRL just to protect my own ass (ie all this “Low IQ” BULLSHIT).

        I really dont even care anymore, tbh… However, to be clear. I have no intentions on committing any acts of violence… I’m just here to make people like you feel like SHIT, by pointing out your RETARDED logic, before you fucks blow up the planet…. It took you until NOW to respond with any SEMI semblance of non dismissive-ness….

        HOWEVER the odds of ANY of what I said actually occurring, (the positives, anyway) are NEXT TO NIL, and watching white people like you suffer will suffice, because we are all, at some point probably going to die in a nuclear war INSTIGATED BY WHITES LIKE YOU… YOU speak of racial inherent nature, I speak of the odds. I revel in one day watching PEOPLE LIKE YOU DIE JUST AS MUCH AS YOU REVEL IN EUGENICS. How you are unable to understand this is why you are A U T I S T I C…. The concept AGAIN, is simple to understand- THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT, but people like you are retarded….

        “I think everyone wants a better society but if you have big redistribution programs without eugenics and limits on fertility, you soon end up with a Malthusian crisis despite having the best intentions.”

        SAYS WHO?????? AGAIN THIS is why I want people like you DEAD… YOU cannot… C A N N O T let go of “eugenics” can you???!!! YOU REFUSE TO…. dude we live in a FUCKING infinite universe, with however many BILLIONS of fucking stars…. and yet there’s just “not enough to go around” better kill some niggers to even things out……………………… right… fuck u dude…. HOW STUPID ARE YOU… PEOPLE LIKE YOU STARTED THIS SHIT, AND IM DONE BEING THE BETTER PERSON… DIE IN A FIRE….

        “Nukes make “conventional” warfare suicidal but there are many other types of competition as well as warfare prosecuted by non-state organizations.”

        ….obviously…. and irrelevant…. You take ANY nuclear nation that feels at risk of a near terminal event, and the odds of said nation instigating a nuclear war increase significantly…. Again, your point lacks relevance…
        Non state orgs instigating indirect attempts to undermine competitor nations, doesn’t matter either, in terms of effecting the long term odds of a unilateral nuclear war (which are DAMNED near 100% with people who think like you in charge of this fucking hellhole)

        “Thus far it has been a useful explanatory and predictive heuristic.”

        HBD is akin to any number of say….. economic models/worldviews super-imposed over reality… Small truths here and there used in SIGNIFICANTLY overgeneralized ways, to satiate the UNENDING AUTISM of it’s authors…

        “After the fanatical screeds you have written here”

        YOU HAVE AN ENTIRE BLOG DEVOTED TO EUGENICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        F U C K Y O U F U C K Y O U !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • September 27, 2017 at 8:20 pm

        “fuck u dude…. HOW STUPID ARE YOU… PEOPLE LIKE YOU STARTED THIS SHIT, AND IM DONE BEING THE BETTER PERSON… DIE IN A FIRE….”

        *Michael Jackson eating popcorn gif*

        “YOU HAVE AN ENTIRE BLOG DEVOTED TO EUGENICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        F U C K Y O U F U C K Y O U !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

        T R I G G E R E D
        *trollface.jpg*

      • September 27, 2017 at 8:56 pm

        http://www.starktruthradio.com/?p=5701

        LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL HAHAHAHAH

        You sound like the super nerds BILL GATES would beat up in HS… LOLOLOL HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA. Why am I wasting my time with you… LOL JUST LISTEN TO YOU FAGS I bet you WINCE in fear every time you see black people on tv…

        Outsmarted by a nigger, AND you’re a broke supernerd just kill yourselves seriously… ahhh that podcast was funny

      • September 27, 2017 at 8:59 pm

        LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL

        NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!

      • September 28, 2017 at 6:58 am

        I see I have a new fanboi who can use google. Keep it up maybe I’ll let you be my personal biographer.

        Look, you have no arguments left so I will remind you why you want to see me dead x 1000 while I’ve indulged you and mocked you a bit.
        The bottom line is I use a model of reality that you don’t like. In reality, Black people are incapable of making functional, wealthy countries throughout history. Anything they touch rapidly regresses into corruption and decay until the typical African standard of living has been reached. This rule holds true from Haiti, to Detroit, to South Africa.

        I actually wish it were otherwise but it isn’t. I don’t hate Blacks but I know putting them in charge of anything is a deadly mistake. At this point Zimbabwe is begging for White farmers to come back after they violently kicked them out. If they had better understood reality, they would have happily remained under the tutelage of those more capable than them.

        At this point, Blacks are destroying what remains of their relationship with Whites in the USA, a move which is disastrous for them. Even if their “coalition of the fringes” were victorious, they will discover that Mexicans care nothing for their “rights” as has already been well demonstrated in Southern California.

      • September 28, 2017 at 8:52 am

        LOL NEEEEERRRRRD! Hold onto your pocket protectors boys, else the nerd might get triggered again! Why did I ever take you seriously LOL

        YOU’RE EVEN A FEATURED WRITER ON RETURN OF KINGS LOLOLOLOL

        http://www.returnofkings.com/author/giovanni-dannato

        ….NERDS WUZ KANGS! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. AHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHA IM GONNA DIE LAUGHING. Teach me your manly king ways Mr high IQ lover boy… LOLOLOLOLOL.
        YOU USED TO BE A PICKUP ARTIST, DIDNT YOU?!?!?! GIOVANNI DANNATO IS YOU AVATAR, AND YOU USE
        PEACOCKING GLOW IN THE DARK POCKET PROTECTORS, DONT YOU???

        LOLOLOL FAAAAAAAGGGGG!!!! You know what, I changed my mind, I hope you live to be 100 years old, son…. You’re gonna die old, alone and miserable because N O B O D Y L I K E S Y O U… I’ll give you some life advice though since you need it… Life is about compromise and NUANCE to a certain extent, and you trying to brute force your way around is about as low IQ as it gets lol…. Tell your autism to shhhhhh!

        As far as all that other bs you just typed… You aint gonnnnaaa doooo shhhheeeeeeeeeeeettt BITCH, and if I ever met you face to face you would FEAR FOR YOUR LIFE AND WE BOTH KNOW IT.
        It was fun watching you squirm though… you can regress to already debunked strawman arguments all you want, you lost….

      • September 28, 2017 at 5:38 pm

        You’re a pretty good promoter. Maybe we can make you the Don King of the blogosphere. When I’m in my 90s and don’t want to get my dentures and I’m lonely will you be there to serve me up some of that instant rice just like your uncle used to make?

      • September 28, 2017 at 4:41 pm

        “Just say nigger and get it over with. Stop being a fucking coward…. Also, you should realize that the NFL’s customer base is VARIED, not just white people, bud…. If the NFL fired all kneelers, it would fuck them HARDER than them doing nothing. They are smart…. Reason? WHO THE FUCK STANDS AT HOME WHEN THE ANTHEM IS PLAYED DURING A GAME??? They KNOW you cracker-jacks are just being salty… all talk, no REAL boycott… Their bottom line will be affected LEAST (negatively) by doing what they are doing.”

        @TAKEmuhMONEYZ

        – Let’s keep it 100! It’s just like the 1960s all over again… a time where, as AD once said in a topic he wrote about MILFs and cougars, “the general attitude at that time was that the status quo would have prevailed for eternity. Sadly for them, it did not…” (I’m elaborating on what he said, BTW)

    • Thegenius
      September 25, 2017 at 10:59 pm

      Electric cars will no doubt bring about a golden age for coal as most electrcity is generated from coal

    • azn
      September 27, 2017 at 12:27 pm

      USa is toast there will be no winners let alone a king. But white people will go extinct on the continent and most asian men are interested in that

  5. September 25, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    How many alt-right bloggers and vloggers actually bring up the conflict at all between the DPRK and the USA? As an example, I’ve checked Black Pigeon Speak’s Youtube channel and there’s no video about the current crisis.

    • September 25, 2017 at 9:57 pm

      I think most sensible people realize that North Korea is a pointless distraction perpetuated by clueless generals who learned about war from books and moved up the ranks with psychopathic brown-nosing and shilling for military-industrial contractors. The alt-right was originally founded as a reaction to W Bush’s idiotic wars and neocon foreign policy, values which remain at its core. The general foreign policy consensus of most alt-dissidents on left or right in my experience is we’d prefer:
      -The US withdraw from South Korea which is perfectly capable of crushing NK without our help. Possible re-armament of Japan.
      -Friendly relations with Russia in pursuit of a China containment policy.
      -Back Iran in the Middle East. The Persians are smarter and more civilized than the Arabs. Iran vs. Turkey/Israel/Saudis with Egypt playing both sides is also a workable balance of power.

      • September 25, 2017 at 11:40 pm

        “The alt-right was originally founded as a reaction to W Bush’s idiotic wars and neocon foreign policy, values which remain at its core.”

        …..no??? The “alt-right” faggots are essentially one current branching of the former PUA industry. They’re just so FUCKING salty that they think the world owes them “justice.” You fucks are essentially narrow minded white man-children throwing a MASSIVE tantrum.

        “…..pursuit of a China containment policy.”

        Ok buddy…. who the fuck do you think you are to “contain” China? Are the Chinese idiots? DROP THE HUBRIS, YOU ARE NOT GODS. It’s comments like these that cause people to HATE YOU fyi, let that soak in….

        ” The Persians are smarter and more civilized than the Arabs….”

        Sigh….. Just die already…..

        “….playing both sides is also a workable balance of power.”

        Workable for WHOM? YOU? YOUR ENDS? YOUR GOALS? G O F U C K Y O U R S E L F !

      • September 26, 2017 at 5:57 am

        @TakeMuhMoney True, PUA was another source but over time people grew more interested in figuring out what systemic social problems made coping mechanisms like PUA necessary.

        “They’re just so FUCKING salty that they think the world owes them ‘justice.’ ”

        You seem pretty salty. I would say alt-dissidents understand that superior might comes before “justice.” Many of their opponents are actually called “Social Justice Warriors” because they expect literal equality (not just under the law) is possible and that the legal concept inherently applies to all aspects of society. Then, when their wishes don’t match reality, they have massive tantrums and blame everyone but themselves.

        “Workable for WHOM? YOU? YOUR ENDS? ”

        Who else? Every person, every group tends to do things that favor its self interest. You realize how far gone this society is when you realize that this is actually considered a radical proposal.

      • September 26, 2017 at 9:12 am

        “….. superior might comes before “justice.” ”

        Good luck exerting superior might on NUCLEAR ARMED NATIONS…. That thought process is literally the entire point of the NK discussion, and the root of the problem. You are an idiot…..

        “…..every group tends to do things that favor its self interest”

        This is why I hate you idiots. The level of idiocy and the lack of any sort of objective thought is laughable, and made more so by the EXTREME delusions that you faggots parade as truth….

        HOW DOES AGGRAVATING/ DEHUMANIZING NATIONS WITH NUKES WORK IN YOUR SELF INTEREST???? HOW???????? White guys like you are SO blinded with hubris it’s fucking pathetic. You are a cancer, and the world is your host. Unfortunately nukes are the chemo that will do us all in

        …..Fuck you

      • September 26, 2017 at 10:01 am

        It’s pathetic how you losers fail to FOLLOW THE BOUNCING BALL…. Why are you mentioning SJW’s and communism? FUCK BOTH OF THOSE THINGS….You literally just drew a strawman and then erased it…

        I dont oppose you faggots on the basis of SJW logic, I oppose you because you are AUTISTIC, and your autism (that you parade as high IQ) is GOING TO PROBABLY GET PEOPLE KILLED…

        You idiots are akin to Ayn Rand/Greenspan bloviating about “rational self interest” while having ZERO understanding of how ACTUAL humans work… You fucks are like Sid from Toy Story lololol… Fucking weird, nutty ass losers who need to just die in a fire along with your kids… I’m sorry that white women like me more than they do you… I guess they are just better at sensing superior genes. When you were a kid I bet you got shoved around, didn’t you? Parents divorced? Why don’t you just die….

        SHOW ME YOUR HIGH IQ… PLEASE….!

      • September 26, 2017 at 11:00 am

        @TakeMuhMoney You do a pretty decent job of pretending to be an angry Black gentleman online. If anything, trying so hard at it is what gives you away. A little too over the top and on the nose.

      • September 26, 2017 at 11:42 am

        Once again, I know seeing a black guy speak perfect english is something that bothers you deeply, but I’m black… Been called “white” since I was a kid, by EVERYONE. Nothing new tbh… Get some new material….

        Not angry, and once again you offer no counter argument. Know this, however… there are a LOT of guys like me SILENTLY reading sites like yours, storm front etc. You FUCKS like to go on site like WSHH to talk the low IQ “nigger” shit, but say that to my face and I’d fucking kill you…. I could easily prove that I’m black, but I’m not going to give up my ID on the internet….. but even if I wasn’t…. WTF is your point???? Every “nerd” black guy you have ever met, who keeps to himself, and offers very little in the form of opinion on these matters IS ME… ALL OF THEM…. And the louder you faggots talk the low IQ shit, the more we watch. You arent smart and you arent slick either so go to hell….

        What am I then???? A white SJW??? FUCK SJW’s, FUCK democrats, AND FUCK YOU TOO…. Am I a lesbian?? Jewish, Asian???? You tell me what I am… believe it, AND THEN OFFER A COUNTER ARGUMENT… Show me your high IQ!

        The fact that you can’t believe a black person can write and argue like I can just proves you are an idiot, and a racist.

      • September 26, 2017 at 11:47 am

        A little better. I will give you 7.5 out of 10.

      • September 26, 2017 at 12:01 pm

        @AD

        A few years ago…. you had a facebook profile and I was on it… I sent you a PM about hookers and you wished me happy birthday a few times over the years before you shut the page down. Pretty sure you can see all of our IP addresses anyway.. I was the black guy from Philly… Please confirm for this fucking asshole…

        Oh, ya… I remember you.

      • September 26, 2017 at 12:08 pm

        @Giovanni

        I’ve yet to see a counter argument… you alt righters talk about SJW’s and their safe spaces, and their lack of objective thought, yet in the face of a legitimate argument you refuse to provide an argument… You and they are the same… I’ve intruded in your safe space and will continue to do so… You people are the worst lol just die already….

      • September 26, 2017 at 12:32 pm

        @Gio

        The OWNER OF THIS BLOG just confirmed I’m a black guy….. Call me white again faggot

      • September 26, 2017 at 12:51 pm

        He said nothing about your appearance. And perhaps you are like a black male Dolezal in person, good enough to pass initial inspection. Or maybe you’re like Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder. If you keep trying you’ll one day be accepted as an honorary member of the African-American community, I’m sure.


        Unless he spent a lot of time creating a carefully curated FB profile for no other reason than to portray himself as black many years in the future.. ya, he is black.

      • September 26, 2017 at 1:33 pm

        Aw, what a shame. Here I thought he must be an exaggerated caricature of popular stereotypes.

      • azn
        September 26, 2017 at 1:52 pm

        U talk big game but r just a salty member of a has been group. Sad how the mighty have fallen

      • September 26, 2017 at 5:46 pm

        @Gio

        Provide a counter argument or admit that you arent any different than the SJW’s who dodge logic and retreat to safe spaces and pure ad hom…. You can call me all the stereotypes you want, but you STILL dont have the balls to say what you really want…. Scared over the internet even, whites dudes like u are the worst… Fucking digital Dylan Roof, the next time I fuck a white bitch I’ll do it in your honor #GodBlessMurica

      • September 27, 2017 at 11:47 am

        You’re trying to call me out for ad hom when you’ve been screaming insults and threats nonstop. I see you are a comedian. I’m not in a safespace, I’m on someone else’s blog talking to people who disagree with me on some things.
        Relentless walls of angry text do not a reasoned argument make. You cannot bang your keyboard randomly like that and expect anyone to take you seriously.

      • September 27, 2017 at 1:19 pm

        The only comedian is you…. I’ve put forth a number of arguments, and you’re dismissal of them is really just an admission of failure. Ad homs are great in the context of a coherent argument which, once again, you refuse to offer.

        If me typing IN CAPS offends you, maybe you should grow a pair lol, stop being a little bitch. It’s no wonder your women are done with guys like you bc you’re tepid and BOOOORING and stupid…. and autistic….

        You’re all the same though lol. Just as you don’t take those like myself seriously, neither does the security apparatus of the United States take “lesser” countries seriously. The difference is they have nukes….. and terrorists…. Not that I sympathize with either, but it really is a fairly straight forward argument, and is the same as proposed by the author of this blog…. You realize he doesn’t agree with you either right? lol they guy shits on white hubris quite often and openly, so without a rebuttal…. why are you even here? Why dont you just kys…..

      • September 27, 2017 at 2:20 pm

        I agree with AD on many things, actually. For example we both oppose the foolish warmongering of the neoliberal establishment. That you have not even tried to understand my views suggests you are unserious and just want to vent out your racial rage.
        One area where we disagree is on HBD but I don’t expect anyone to agree with me 100%.

      • September 27, 2017 at 1:21 pm

        *the guy (AD)

  6. Thegenius
    September 25, 2017 at 10:43 pm

    Is there any difference between Trump threatening north korea with war and Morgan Freeman threatening Russia with war?

    At the level of batshit insanity, there is no difference. However Trump is currently president while Morgan Freeman had played one in many movies.

  7. P Ray
    September 26, 2017 at 4:28 am

    Realistically the U.S. can’t act in any way that escapes being labelled either insane (starting the war) or weak (not starting the war).
    Along with the Chad Thundercock machismo, one should expect interesting things for the future, personally for me this whole idea that civilisation is only “Western civilisation” is moronic … especially evidenced with “triggered” SJWs that don’t do any meaningful service towards the (not their fault)disadvantaged in the world …

    It is a self-inflicted wound caused by hubristic thinking. I mean.. seriously, why did USA get involved in the Korean situation after WW2 to begin with?

    • P Ray
      September 26, 2017 at 10:02 am

      Probably because many in the U.S. thought:
      1.We beat the Nazis and Japanese(despite starting the blockade against them to get the war going),
      2.We can also beat “The Reds” (despite the fact that previously the US only used/tested nukes against the people that didn’t look like them AND they had crippled their air fighter ability).
      Things got real the moment China decided they didn’t like the US poking around after being given a warning.
      I believe the Korean situation happened in that way precisely because the US thought China was bluffing. Yup, you nailed it, hubris.

      • webej
        September 26, 2017 at 10:40 am

        Yes, they were denying the war effort between the Soviets and the Germans, as well as the Chinese. The Chinese didn’t celebrate the victory until sep 3 2015 (70 years) because that’s how long it took to rebuild, they say. China and Russia both lost ca. 30 million souls; they remember. The decision to use a nuclear bomb in Japan againt the explicit advice of the chiefs of staff and the military, was a gamble to have leverage over the Soviets to force the new “open door” trade policy. In the US they were afraid of sinking back into depression. if the US had just gotten out, the Koreans would have had a single country with some practical form of socialism/nationalism, much like Vietnam, without 25 lost years.

    • webej
      September 26, 2017 at 10:49 am

      NO. there are other options between insanity and appearing weak.

      When all the strongest men in the realm couldn’t pull the sword ouf of the stone to win the King’s daughter, Arthur tried pushing instead of pulling, and voila.

      Trump could (if the deep state let him) have direct talks with N Korea, promise them sovereignty and UN guarantees for self-determination. He could quit all the sanctions and the saber-rattling. On top, he could pump a few tens of billion in help into Korea. Who would be looking out of role for the gaze of the world? Magnanimity would be cryptonite for the perverse paranoid society that N Korea has developed.

      Are there are risks? Yes, life is full of risks. But just consider the current risks, at least the risks that are painted by the MSM.

      I am not all that convinced N Koreans are itching to rain down death on Seoul (many of them have family living there). They could, but they probably do not want to be in that dead end. Tokyo is a better bet, after all the occupations from Japan and their racist* attitude towards Koreans. Of course American objects are still more preferable, but they come with the risk of not surviving long enough to even know if the strike was successful.

  8. azn
    September 26, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    Even if NK nukes USA I highly doubt US can respond in kind as NK is extremely small and the fallout will expand to other states esp. China and Russia which would not be acceptable for the now humbled USA. so even a nuclear strike by NK will at most result in conventional bombing not nuclear retaliation.
    The ruling class in USA will not risk total annihilation for a few million dead in the west coast. What do u think?

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