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On Moves to Brand Masculinity of Men in West as ‘Toxic’: Nov 26, 2017

Many readers of my blog might have noticed a recent rash of articles, in both traditional and online media, about how masculinity is somehow inherently ‘toxic’. In case you haven’t seen them, here is very short list of these hilarious opinion pieces: Funny Link 1, Funny Link 2 and Funny Link 3. I am sure that most have also seen links to other similar and equally hilarious write-ups on that topic in their FaceBook and Twitter newsfeeds. But poking fun at unintentionally comic articles is not the main focus of this post, though many are highly entertaining to read.

Let me, instead, begin by asking you a simple question: since when has masculinity been seen as ‘toxic’ in western countries? Most of you might select a time between say.. 1968 to sometime within the last few years. However, as I shall shortly demonstrate, those dates and the thinking behind selecting them is not based in reality. Masculinity, you see, has always been toxic in the ‘west’ as long as it was the masculinity of non-white men. In case you don’t believe it, have a look at the disproportionate number of black men lynched for alleged sexual ‘crimes’ against white women in the pre-WW2 USA. Or look at how the behavior (sexual and otherwise) of black men is viewed and treated in USA.

You could also look at how the sexuality of men from other non-white groups has been traditionally depicted in books, films, TV shows and other forms of popular entertainment. I mean.. can you think of even one semi-well known film or TV show that depicts east-Asian men as attractive or desirable? What about non-white Mexican men? Or what about men of Indian descent? I can reel of a list of characters within american popular media based around negative stereotypes of non-white men. Somehow, all of these negative stereotypes which border on dehumanization and demonization never caused anything more than a few polite disagreements… because, doing so was considered perfectly acceptable for the previous and now rapidly waning majority- especially white men.

But reality, you see, often displays a sense of bitter irony. Many of the same tropes used to dehumanize non-white men and demonize their sexuality have in recent years been turned at full blast towards white men. Then again, attempts to nurture proverbial poisonous snakes in the hopes that they will bite only ‘other’ people always ends the same way. This process is also generally similar to how western attempts to create civil and ethnic strife in other countries ultimately cause the same within their own borders. Or how the ‘War on Terror’ in other countries becomes the incarceration-surveillance state for those idiots who supported the former. Or how welfare, free trade and free-market “reforms” meant to hurt black people have now fucked over lots of white people too.

Some of you might say that what I written until now is too non-specific. I mean.. which tropes am I talking about? and how do they apply to the current situation?

So here it goes. Consider how ‘non-alpha’ white men (aka the majority) risk getting accused of sexual harassment, sexual assault and even rape if the women in question either does not find them attractive, thinks they are “creepy” or has regrets after the fact. That particular type of demonizing male sexuality in USA started with black men- for reasons that are too obvious to anyone with a passing knowledge of american history. As some of you know, talking and flirting with white women and having sex with them resulted in black men being accused of identical ‘crimes’- even if nothing non-consensual had occurred. The fact that most white men are now treated that way is both funny and richly deserved.

Or consider how mere accusations of sexual impropriety are now enough to destroy careers of white men. Or how white women are supposed to be always truthful when they make such accusations. Both tropes trace their origins to what occurred to black and other non-white men in previous eras. It is darkly funny to watch most white men get railroaded the same way as they once did to others. It is also hard to feel sympathy for those who cheered on and participated in such mob behavior under the mistaken belief that they would be never affected by such injustices. I mean.. if public trials based on one-sided accounts were ok when the accused were non-white men, what is wrong with continuing that ‘tradition’ when the accused are white men?

Then there is the issue of many white men now being seen as less than worthy for having sex with women. And once again, this is the extension of a trope which was previously applied to non-white men (especially east-Asian and Indian). Of course, almost everybody else in the ‘west’ was perfectly fine when the men not deemed worthy of having female sexual partners were non-white. As it turns out, that trope also spread far beyond the groups it was originally meant to marginalize. And that is why it is amusing to watch all those mediocre (white) men complaining about being treated as undesirable and less-than-human by white women. Then again, thinking beyond the short-term is rather uncommon in human beings- irrespective of race and ethnicity.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. November 26, 2017 at 11:07 am

    “The fact that most white men are now treated that way is both funny and richly deserved.”

    Not sure why it would be “richly deserved” by contemporary white males given that it was (allegedly) introduced at some point well back in history (sounds like you’re referring to the Jim Crow era) by presumably long dead people. Inherited guilt? Racial guilt?

    • Gp
      December 30, 2017 at 1:03 am

      Are you implying that the ancestors of non whites deserved the ill treatment?

  2. November 26, 2017 at 12:16 pm

    I wish this could be blamed all on feminism, but it can’t. Just go to some so-called MGTOW website and listen to some libertarian tough guys whining about the muzzies invading Germany. It’s obvious these alt-reich types are really afraid of not being able to compete with other men. (All while they whine about muh free markets.) Meanwhile they say “cuck” every other word while maxing out their credit cards buying cuckold porn and “learning about masculinity” from Jack Donovan.

  3. Yusef
    November 26, 2017 at 4:31 pm

    “Or consider how mere accusations of sexual impropriety are now enough to destroy careers of white men.”

    Yet one of the most mysterious facets of this recent hysteria is its coming in the wake of the triumph of Trump– such accusations didn’t destroy his career– they didn’t even dent it. He’s almost surely not falsely accused, either.

    It is enough to make me wonder whether the recent witch hunt and its hyper vitriol is somehow a concession or compensation or other reaction to the triumph of Trump. These women or whoever the hell it is who are whipping up the mob were shown to not have the influence they seemed to have so now they are working extra hard to show YES they do?

    I don’t claim to understand. I do not take what is staged for us in the MSM very seriously at all.

  4. Gp
    November 26, 2017 at 8:38 pm

    You hit this one out of the park AD. To all the disingenuous white scums talking about how they don’t deserve the bitter fruits of their fathers, well divine justice is seldom fair but always satisfactory. Lol
    Can you do another post on how asian women(both brown and yellow) act as shock absorbers for discarded white men and how that in turn may change the attitudes of asian men towards their women and by extension their whole community.

    • Gp
      November 27, 2017 at 12:56 am

      *seldom satisfactory but always fair* correction

    • Jim
      November 27, 2017 at 1:17 am

      Celebrate. After all, we can turn the west into India where people shit in the streets and bathe in the Ganges with corpses LOL.Or Mexico where they hang people off of bridges.

      Miss World was just crowned and she’s from India., And she ain’t brown.

      The only thing that happens with the decline of the west is people like you can claim some victory against the white boogeyman while living in squalor. And a 70% single mother black birth rate just means that you white collar fools get to pay for it. And still can’t get laid, Enjoy the decline fools.

      • Anon1
        November 27, 2017 at 1:46 am

        I think most countries are cleaning up their act. India now has a working space program. China had a lot of extreme poverty in the past and now it’s rapidly becoming a middle class country. Even Africa is slowly developing, forming super-national alliances etc. I don’ t think all these problems you see in the third world are due to something inherently bad about the people in them.

    • December 1, 2020 at 11:44 am

      I notice how a handful of SE Asian females act as apologizers or trophies for white guys. But simultaneously, more of them are gravitating towards black men as well. They get with black guys for lust, whereas they use white guys for (fake) “love” (to get them to be sponsors and western union boyfriends, at least, or marry them for support – yet they still cheat their asses off on them with more younger, alpha white and black men).

      • P Ray
        December 1, 2020 at 8:04 pm

        A very learned use of psychology … foreign men see the women in their country as cold and dismissive … but automatically assumes an Asian female who says and does all the right things as in love with him.

        The PUA Gunwitch did have that right “Make the ho say no” – by suggesting extreme acts of sex or PDA, if she doesn’t agree with it, she doesn’t love you and is not attracted.

        This has a good basis, much like how Australian SAS soldiers that killed unarmed youngsters in Afghanistan were able to bond so well. A traumatic experience is a good linker.

      • December 1, 2020 at 8:55 pm

        PUA Gunwitch is wrong. A woman can do certain sex acts with one or a small group of guys she wouldn’t do with anyone else.

        I’ve met women who let me give them anal sex, but wouldn’t let other guys do that with her. Why? Because unlike them other dudes, she DOES like or love me and is attracted to me. Now when it comes to paid sex, that has its differences.

      • P Ray
        December 2, 2020 at 12:45 am

        PUA Gunwitch is wrong. A woman can do certain sex acts with one or a small group of guys she wouldn’t do with anyone else.

        Uh, ya. That’s why Gunwitch says “Make the ho say no”.
        If she agrees to do depraved or bold stuff with you, you are attractive to her.

        Dunno where the disagreement comes from, and Gunwitch was not talking about paid interactions.

      • December 2, 2020 at 9:57 am

        @P Ray

        I misread. Was drunk last night. LOL

  5. Anon1
    November 27, 2017 at 1:41 am

    How will this end? Widespread MRA/MGTOW among men after flushing out racist elements? Women reversing course after realizing that all this demonization is causing a drastic drop in supply / attention?

    • P Ray
      November 28, 2017 at 12:18 pm

      Women won’t be able to reverse course because most are herd animals.
      Most care more for the approval of their friends than the guy they’re with, UNLESS he’s hot.

      That’s how so many wind up with the men having commitment, substance abuse, gambling or anger problems.

      For the regular/ugly guy, he gets the ABC (Approval By Committee) treatment.

      I once overheard this Australian woman (who was dating a lawyer who had a drugs problem) … saying that her breakup point was a man with a messy room.
      Talk about priorities.
      Then again, a man is an accessory to their lifestyles, and of course, the “troubled” guy gives them the Florence Nightingale vibe, but especially if he’s attractive. Women don’t mind babysitting good looking basket cases.

  6. P Ray
    November 27, 2017 at 5:53 pm

    It’s very ironic that the selfsame white men that allowed their women to run riot with accusing non-white men with very little proof to destroy their lives … are now being stung by the next generation of those women.
    It’s also very ironic that the white man who intends to “liberate Asian women from their toxic patriarchy” … expects, and is given the same treatment that they consider “toxic patriarchy”
    and also that Asian women think that patriarchy is only toxic if it’s from non-white men.

    Of course, the fun part is many Asian women don’t realise that there are income requirements to staying in a white country (if those Asian women are not citizens), and the kind of white guy that goes overseas for a “traditional” wife may not be earning enough to meet those income requirements, hence they both couple up for a short time and he ghosts here … then afterwards she screeches that “White men are too frivolous, give me Asian men” … ignoring the fact that the White guy “got” her when she was younger and hotter. And of course the implication is that Asian men need to take the below-par Asian woman.
    But of course, almost always if you are non-White it seems you can only get below-par women.

    Late-age marriage is a symptom of “being settled for”.

    In other news, playboy Prince Harry is 33 … and divorcee Rachel Meghan Markle is 36.

    Where have all the virgin women gone? 🙂

    • P Ray
      November 27, 2017 at 6:03 pm

      And also to rain on women’s parades:
      The guy rich enough to impress you … is also rich enough to impress a girl younger than you. Be careful what your criteria is in men, it may simply be that you are exchanging your youth and beauty, for his wealth … and he can exchange that with someone else too, as a matter of fact, a man becomes more attractive to other women when he has a wife BECAUSE the wife wouldn’t be with him, unless he was someone worth having.

      Just ask Melissa Weeks about how being married to Jeremy made him look more attractive to other women …

      • P Ray
        December 3, 2017 at 6:10 pm

        Just ask Melissa Weeks about how being married to Jeremy made him look more attractive to other women …

        Typo, it should read Just ask Melissa MEEKS about how being married to Jeremy made him look more attractive to other women …

    • Genius
      December 2, 2017 at 3:48 pm

      White men always go for the ugliest asian women, see mark zuckerberg

      • P Ray
        December 3, 2017 at 6:20 pm

        I’ll give you that they end up married to those women (seems to be a tech sector thing)
        until that point, Asian women throw themselves at them.
        e.g. Jarah Mariano and Norman Reedus (now “knowing” Diane Kruger)
        e.g. Zhang Ziyi and Aviv Nevo.

        but as mentioned before, these women think love trumps government, they forget that if they are not citizens, there are requirements that the boyfriend may not want to comply with.

        Asian women get a sweet deal on this though, they can claim they are:
        1)open-minded (any colour as long as it’s white) and
        2)appreciate men of their own ethnicity (after they waste their youth and beauty on the other guys)
        3)are more mature (only when they realise their looks have faded and they have to have a plausible excuse)

        So I don’t see this trend stopping anytime soon, good thing I understand their opportunistic ways.

  7. P Ray
    November 27, 2017 at 5:58 pm

    Don’t forget “stopping immigration” is a handy compression of the term “stopping male immigration”.
    It’s no problem when the migrants are hottie women that have pussy to trade.
    It’s a big problem when the migrants are men that are looking for pussy to conquer.

    • It's all a show
      November 27, 2017 at 7:05 pm

      Yes, I’m all for hottie immigration. That’s not what we’re getting. We’re getting squats. Come to think of it, I’ve seen very few attractive immigrants.

      • P Ray
        November 27, 2017 at 7:27 pm

        Sometimes you need to wait for the kids to pop out. I suppose it is a sign of the “instant gratification” milieu, that people expect the hottie to leave their country to enter their own on minimum wage.

        Keep in mind that one of the Miss Universe / Miss World winners (of the last 5 years, don’t remember her name) went to the UK in her teens … and couldn’t even find a minimum wage job.

    • Jack Sparrow
      February 8, 2020 at 8:39 pm

      It’s hilarious that you think this is only a targeted “White man” thing. You forget that the MeToo came after Aziz Ansari, and is now being played after the death of Black Kobe Bryant. But your racism towards the White man is quite telling.
      And mass immigration has made the genetic pool quite uglier and genetically deficient because it’s all 3rd world poor trash immigrating than affluent folks. Go have your swipe on Bumble in any major US city on the coast and see what I am talking about.

      • P Ray
        February 9, 2020 at 7:49 am

        A lot of the uggo Asian women wouldn’t be able to migrate, if the White border control guy didn’t approve her coming in, so he could come in her.

        Remember, “yellow fever”‘s counterpart is “white thirst”.

  8. November 29, 2017 at 11:22 am

    Great topic, homie. I applaud you for this one (I think the only topic I have a problem with at this stage is the one you wrote about Gaddafi. As rapper T.I. said, the shit that’s happening in Libya wouldn’t occur if Gaddafi was still alive).

    What goes around comes around.

    Now alot of white men (of the beta, male feminist, pussy-whipped and sexual harasser variety) are having their fake pseudo-alpha cards revoked. Now if only this can happen to Donald Trump… (LOL)

    Real alpha studs, thugs, bad boys and womanizing players (like myself) don’t have to harass anybody, rape or date rape anyone. A lot of bros know, like the old rap/dance song said, “If the bitch don’t wanna dance, move to the next hoe.” Let alone, how many black men go on murder sprees like Elliot Rodgers and Dylan Roof and the likes?

    This is very interesting. But it’s only going to get worse. And now, feminazis (especially in schools, universities and such) are using this as an excuse to justify their “rape culture” hysteria) and there will be a larger purge of weak motherfuckers. And it might get to the point to where most men will either be too scared or cynical to date American (white) women, there may be a shortage of dick for these females, USSA will end up like Saudi Arabia where eye contact among the sexes will be avoided, more men may travel abroad and “escape the matrix”. Either way, women in the USA will start to reap the fruits of their labor.

    On the other hand, white MGTOWs on the internet are playing that card of “this affects us all” and want to try to recruit black men to join their shitty movement to attack female sexuality, which is nothing more than mental masturbation by a bunch of betas and monks who fail repeatedly to score pussy on a night out and who don’t have the guts to “escape the matrix” and hop the fence.

    I really appreciate how you’ve mentioned how black male sexuality was demonized for decades and centuries and compared it to this. The only thing is that white men have yet to be lynched, castrated or “buck breaked”… yet. Maybe in a high-tech sense, yes (because “the plantation” just became upscale). Then of course, some clueless women will still defend them, even when the cards are stacked against them. And not because these women find these men attractive, but because they depend on their resources to keep them afloat. Like groupies who gyrate for the dominant male (real or fake).

  9. Libertarians are subhumans
    November 29, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    Mate can you make a post about net neutrality?
    It’s kinda important,one would expect you to understand that,especially given many of the older post you’ve made about the revolutionary nature of the internet in the past.

  10. Anon1
    December 1, 2017 at 9:50 am

    It looks like extreme “law and order” policing is hurting white guys too:


  11. George
    February 26, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    I think the OP really nailed it. I’ve often been wondering why I feel extremely indifferent to this newest wave of #metoo and other aggressive feminist behavior. It’s because I (asian guy) have already felt neutered by this society, for years on end.

    I guess it’s the (beta) white males’ turn now. Not fun, huh?

    This must be roughly analogous to the way the opioid “national emergency” has just come to light recently. But if you live in the mostly African American inner cities, you’re probably wondering why all of a sudden this is a big deal to everyone. It certainly wasn’t a big deal (to society at large) when it was only them being affected.

  12. February 2, 2019 at 12:50 pm

    Some people idiotically believe #MeToo is racist against black men because of recent attacks on Bill Cosby (well deserved) and R. Kelly (I haven’t seen the sex tape of him pissing on teenage girls). But people had their eyes on them way before the start of #MeToo. If you visit the Me Too website, most men on the bucket list are rich, white beta males who preach or have preached feminist propaganda or “CONservative old fashioned values”. I’ve only seen one black rapper on that list and that’s Nelly (underage sex accusation).

    It does seem that in spite of concrete evidence (as they say, “love is blind”), people still remain stuck on nostalgia. They think I’m crazy when I mention what was said in this topic, which I’ve known for many years now. The Gillette commercial brought to light of what’s said in this topic and it’s poetic justice. Even “reformed playa” Rom Wills asked recently that if white men were so great, why are white women divorcing them in record numbers? – Also, why don’t you see as many white male sex symbols as you did in the past; especially in comparison to black athletes and musicians?

  13. February 6, 2020 at 11:01 am

    When I first read this, I had agreed. Strongly. Intensely!

    But the current state of affairs has me rethinking some shit…

    Have you seen how Gayle King tried to trash Kobe Bryant (RIP) bringing up that false rape accusation made by some white girl he butt-fucked back in 2003? You see how Oprah is trashing R. Kelly, Russel Simmons and dug up Michael Jackson’s grave last year?! And then you wonder why some black men feel the #MeToo movement is out to specifically attack and demonize black men, while Oprah and Gayle King remains silent about Harvey Weinstein, Donald Trump, etc. Even the founder of #MeToo asks why should she go after white men… That said, some black men feel like “powerful” black women in politics and media are “watchdogs for white supremacy”.

  14. February 8, 2020 at 9:42 am


    So now, Oprah is in tears because her boyfriend Gayle King received death threats and attacks from Snoop Dogg (Bill Cosby thanked Snoop Dogg, btw) and well as from other people on social media.

    Even Alan Roger Currie acknowledged that the lackeys of the #MeToo movement are “…coming after us.”

    • P Ray
      December 2, 2020 at 2:25 am

      Didn’t LIEberals realise their attack squad would turn on them once vulnerable CONservatives became hard to find or were tougher to break down?

      Remember … CONservatives are RACIST, LIEberals are STUPID.

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