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Could Oprah Winfrey Win Against Donald Trump in 2020 Election: 2

In the previous post of this series, I wrote about why Oprah Winfrey might be a much better presidential candidate for the democratic party that most of it current slate of generic neoliberal candidates. Some readers appeared to think that I was endorsing such an action. The truth is a bit different. The point I was trying to make was that somebody like Oprah was far more likely to win a presidential election against Trump or any other republican than somebody like Booker, Gillibrand, Harris or any other talentless neoliberal fraud.

Having said that, let us now try to answer some of the potential objections raised in the comment section of that post..

1] More than one person (1, 2) noted that Oprah does not seem to have any overall principle and that she is just a far more successful main-stream female version of Alex Jones. You know what.. I can certainly agree with both those points. But then ask yourself- what was the guiding principle behind Clinton, Bush43, Obama, Trump and pretty much every person elected to that office? Were they in it for anything beyond gaining power, becoming famous and using it to make money in their later years.Can you think of a single president who ran for office for reasons that were not completely selfish and self-serving?

Also, when did people who pushed scams and lies become ineligible for that office to date? Do you remember Bush41 and his infamous pledge on taxes and lies about Iraqi atrocities in Kuwait? What about the many lies, scams and neoliberal deregulations pushed by Clinton42? What about Bush43 and his extremely expensive lies about Iraqi WMDs? What about Obama44 and his many lies about standing up for the average person? To make a long story short, most people elected to be president have always been greedy, vain and amoral hucksters. An Oprah presidency would not represent a deviation from this established norm.

2] One comment (3) suggested that white and latino men would not vote for a black woman. But would that matter? You see, the majority of white men have voted for the republican presidential candidate for the last 20-30 years. Guess what, we still had Clinton42, Obama44 and almost had Gore and Kerry. To put it another way, the vote of white men is not that important for democratic candidates in the presidential election. In fact, HRC could have won in 2016 if the number of blacks voting for her was similar to Obama in 2012. Democrats know that they will not get the majority of blue-collar white male votes.

One of the more interesting effects of Trump’s presidency has been the extent to which it has resulted in increased support for democrats among Hispanics, especially the younger ones. In other words, it would be extremely easy for democrats to gain new Hispanic voters and increase turnout even if their candidate was a black woman. While latino men may not like voting for a black woman, the other option (a republican presidency and congress) is far worse. So, ya, I do not foresee much of a problem with getting latino men to vote for a black woman.

3] I also think that her lack of professional political experience is no barrier to people voting for her, largely because so many “professional” politicians at both the national and state level have not delivered for anybody other than themselves and their rich donors. Also, that is the reason Trump won the republican nomination and the presidency. In other words, her lack of political experience is actually a plus if she decides to run for the presidency. Furthermore, even a brief overview of her interviews over the years suggests that she is a very smart woman- even if she has used that talent mainly to enrich herself.

The election of Trump in 2016 has also changed public expectations of who is seen as electable and what speech or behavior such a person can get away with. Even a series of major scandal concocted by right-wing media types about Oprah is unlikely to affect her chances of winning the democratic candidacy or presidency, largely because democratic and, increasingly, unaffiliated voters simply do not care as long as the person in question was seen as an improvement over Trump. Also, the negative effects of ‘tax reforms’ and other neoliberal policies passed by the republicans will be too evident in 2020 for people to care about some right-wing media inspired personal gossip about the democratic candidate.

4] We also cannot discount the possibility that Oprah might decide that promising single payer health care, inexpensive university education etc is a far better strategy than just sticking to the tired and discredited neoliberal line. She has, in the past, repeatedly shown a talent for picking up emerging trends which turned out to be highly profitable for her later. You should not, therefore, be surprised if she decides to go ‘full Bernie’. I should add that doing so would be quite easy for her since she has never been publicly associated with neoliberal policy positions in the past. Moreover, she could use her new public positions on those issues as a brand differentiator between her and other establishment democrats in the primaries.

Such a strategy would be particularly devastating against establishment democrats such as Booker, Harris and Gillibrand who are little better than third-rate actors spouting neoliberal “commonsense” bullshit. I mean.. why would consumers prefer third-rate imitators when they can get the first-class professional, especially if she goes full-bore populist. I should also point out that her long and generally well-liked tenure as a TV show host makes her far less likely to face the kind of public distrust and voter apathy that plagued HRCs campaign in 2016.

To be clear, I am not saying she would make a good, let alone great, president. My point is that she would be an almost unstoppable candidate in the current political environment and would likely win in a general election against Trump or any other republican candidate.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. January 14, 2018 at 10:33 pm

    What about Zuckerberg? You think he would try to run/have a chance? Seems like he’s trying to position himself…. He mentioned UBI being needed at a University speech he gave, I think.

    He has to work much more at passing for a human.

  2. January 15, 2018 at 6:24 am

    Saying “if Oprah took a populist policy direction” is a big if. She is firmly embedded in the neoliberal establishment(pictures with figures like Weinstein would be paraded relentlessly) and has a vision of feminism not dissimilar from Hillary Clinton’s. She can keep an agreeable veneer in her show business but that would rapidly fade as she had to signal to her base. In a few weeks after getting her hands dirty, she wouldn’t be perceived that much differently than Kamala Harris.
    You should also keep in mind that left wing populism is implicitly white upper middle class and model minority. Its limited demographics are why it has utterly failed so far to become even a serious sub-faction within the democrat coalition. Their best known(by far) spokesman will be nearly 80 years old by 2020 and they even failed at making inroads in the dem party when they put forth Black Muslim Keith Ellison as a compromise candidate. The underclasses, minorities care more about affirmative action, food stamps, and perceived racial injustice than anything else.
    Societal polarization may increase mestizo turnout but it will also gradually reduce the percentage of white democrat voters.

    Oprah is an opportunist. If she thought that promoting Satan was a more profitable proposition than whatever she is doing now- she would do it. Also you seem to forget that she has been the subject of countless tabloid stories and manufactured scandals in her decades long media career. Guess what.. she is one still laughing her way to the bank.

    Even a democratic candidate as unpopular, pathetic and neoliberal as HRC won more votes than Trump on a nationwide basis. If you don’t believe me, have a look at the total number of votes for republican candidates in the last 5 presidential election. Notice something? Their number have flat-lined for the last twenty years.

    To make a long story short, any semi-decent democratic presidential candidate can beat a republican presidential candidate. Even people as pathetic as Al Gore, Kerry and HRC either received more votes than their republican counterparts or lost by rather small margins.

    You might also want to factor in how all that racist white trash in flyover states will react when they find out that republicans are cutting social security and medicare. They may not like to vote democrat, but they really love their social security payment and medicare coverage- don’t they?

    As far as Bernie is concerned, there are more than few younger politicians like Tulsi Gabbard who will be quite willing to take up his legacy.

    • January 22, 2018 at 4:25 am

      Sure, Oprah is an opportunist, AD, as is pretty much anyone she’d be competing with. If there’s one thing we can take away from 2016, it’s the astonishing truth that the elites actually believe their own bullshit. There’s no reason to believe, so far as I know, that Oprah is an exception. She seems vanilla establishment to me. This is why I anticipate democrats will continue to stay solidly neo-liberal despite populism being the obvious growth direction for them. Tulsi Gabbard would be a great candidate for the Dems but the reason Trump’s insurgency succeeded while Sanders’ failed is the core demographics of GOP supported the shift. The Black vote alone in the democrat party precludes that possibility. I knew Sanders was finished as soon as he got destroyed in the South Carolina primary.
      The Black vote is pound for pound the most powerful force in American electoral politics. They always vote 90%+ one way so at 13% of the general population, they’re something like 1/4 of the entire democratic party. Nothing changes without their approval and they have pretty much zero interest in organic granola progressivism.

  3. January 17, 2018 at 10:18 am

    “To be clear, I am not saying she would make a good, let alone great, president. My point is that she would be an almost unstoppable candidate in the current political environment….”

    And, that’s what commenters here ought to keep in mind : DA isn’t stating that Oaf-rah would be an effective, productive, rational, selfless leader if elected president; rather, DA’s simply stating that she’d be an effective candidate who might very well win enough votes to be elected president.

  4. January 18, 2018 at 9:36 am

    But remember, Trump was loosing the election, even up until the very last second as depicted by the same lying ilk that supports Oprah. Certainly many snow flakes and die hard harpie feminists would love to see Oprah at least run. Certainly the neoliberal echo chamber validates her. But does that mean that a majority of the entire voting public really wants Oprah, is “Murcia” “ready” for Oprah to be “president”? Is Oprah “presidential” in the traditional sense or even the contemporary? How does a majority of voters perceive she will be thought of by those outside USA? Is “Murcia” ready to make even more of a fool of itself?

  5. January 18, 2018 at 9:50 am

    My main point in my previous comments on the previous post was not that Oprah is really any different than other opportunistic clowns elected in the past. It is that she can claim no relative experience or imperative. Her resume has no “presidential” qualities. Obama had political experience to list, among other relevant attributes, and Trump used his “negotiating abilities”, nationalism, and the socioeconomic disenfranchisement of lower and middle class citizens to advance his campaign. What does Oprah have to offer other than the most extreme left wing social agendas and expertise in gossip?

  6. January 18, 2018 at 9:55 am

    What does she have to offer other than extremely liberal feminist impulses and a broad expertise in gossip? What “hope” does she represent other than that which advances those, as that is all she has ever done? And, is that a “hope” that a majority of Americans will vote for?

    I think Oprah has a snow balls chance in hell of winning, unless she immediately reinvents herself.

  7. P Ray
    April 8, 2020 at 9:25 am

    Trump is going to win this one, if his only credible opponent is Biden.
    https://nypost.com/2020/04/08/bernie-sanders-drops-out-of-2020-presidential-race/ – NEWS
    Bernie Sanders drops out of 2020 presidential race
    By Mark Moore and Ebony BowdenApril 8, 2020 | 11:27am
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    Sen. Bernie Sanders dropped out of the Democratic primary race on Wednesday, paving the way for Joe Biden to be officially declared the party’s nominee.

    The announcement comes after the former vice president trounced the Vermont independent in three primaries.

    It also comes as the nation grapples with the coronavirus pandemic and growing calls for primaries to be postponed to avoid big social gatherings, especially with no clear path to victory left for Sanders, 78.

    Biden defeated Sanders in Florida, Illinois and Arizona last month and holds a large delegate lead, 1,217 to Sanders’ 914.

    A candidate needs to gather 1,991 delegates to be nominated at July’s Democratic National Convention.

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