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Thoughts on ‘Incels’ and Alleged Public Reactions Towards Them: 1

Ever since the now famous van ride by Alek Minassian on April 23, 2018, I have been meaning to write a short series on the core factors which ultimately led him to improve on the body count of the ‘Supreme Gentleman’ aka Elliot Rodger. While Elliot Rodger’s YT videos and long manifesto did ensure his online fame and digital immortality in certain corners of the internet, they did not catch the attention of normies to the same level as Alek Minassian’s solitary FaceBook post. So what changed between 2014 and 2018 that the contents of one FaceBook post become far more famous than one long manifesto in addition to multiple YT videos from four years ago?

The answer to that question is a bit complicated and requires us to appreciate some concurrent socio-cultural changes which made that outcome possible. Elliot Rodger, in 2014, was the first widely known and unambiguous example of a guy going on a lethal rampage because he could not get laid. Note the use of adjective ‘unambiguous’ to qualify ‘example’. But why is that qualification important? Well.. in case you have not noticed, the vast majority of rampage killers are single men with usually non-existent sex lives. It is, therefore, possible to make the case that almost every contemporary rampage killer is also functionally incel. Think about that the next time you read about the next lethal rampage.

Anyway.. at that time, Elliot Rodger’s rampage was widely perceived as a one-off incident by most people. Moreover, his rampage occurred in the era before the use of large vehicles to run over down dozens of people became somewhat common during rampage killings in western countries. You see, for a long time too many idiots in western countries held the belief that rampage killings could not be carried out without access to guns, especially scary looking “assault” weapons. The universe, unfortunately, does not care about the human beliefs. As they say- where there is a will, there is a way. Also, history has repeatedly shown that there is no effective way to deter people who are willing to die for something they believe in.

And this brings us to the question of who ‘incels’ are and what defines them as a group. As I briefly touched on in my two previous posts about this incident (link 1, link 2) – a whole cottage industry of experts had materialized, seemingly out of thin air, to help provide clueless normies “authoritative expertise” on topics such as incel internet forums and the meaning of terms such as Chad, Stacy and Roastie (link 3, link 4, link 5, link 6 and link 7). To be honest, there is a certain perverse pleasure in watching clueless greedy morons pretending to “educate” even more clueless naive morons about a topic which neither can comprehend. Having said that, stupid and profit-driven attempts to “educate” the masses have a known tendency to make problems worse.

But what does any of this have to do with the current public fascination with ‘incels’? And why does the title of this post talk about alleged ‘public’ reactions towards them?

Let us start by trying to answer the first part of that question. Not surprisingly, it comes down to a combination human stupidity, false consciousness and insatiable greed or as I like to call it- normies being normies. The sad fact about human beings is that, as a species, they love gawking at uncommon things especially if it also makes them feel better about themselves. That is why traffic accidents attract tons of rubberneckers and why freak shows used to be so popular in less enlightened eras. Now combine that with capitalism’s tendency to keep on producing more of something as long as it keeps on making ever more profit.

It is therefore no surprise that corporate media outlets as well at the allegedly non-corporate parts of the internet are now full of tons of articles, video clips, podcasts and anything else which can be monetized about ‘incels’. If you do not believe me just google ,or duckduckgo, articles about ‘incels’. Searching YT or podcasts (sort by upload date) for media on that topic will reveal the same pattern. The vast majority of them are full of the same talking points, which are as follows: society does not owe men sex, incels are white terrorists, incels are misogynists, incels are a hate group and so on. A minority who want to be seen as contrarian peddle another set of talking points, such as: incels are a sign of liberal failure, incels could benefit from old-fashioned conservatism and other assorted recycled conservative crap.

It goes without saying that the biggest casualty in this rat race to monetize content about ‘incels’ is, as usual, objective analysis. Let me explain that point in some detail. Anything approaching objective analysis of this topic would have recognized that lack of non-solitary outlets for male sexual desire is an increasingly common issue in late capitalist societies.. and yes, it is linked to the widespread internalization of capitalist thinking by the masses. To make a long story short, internalization of capitalist concepts such as monetization of anything and everything including all human interactions creates the same distribution patterns in sex as it has done with income.

The socio-economic changes of late capitalism has created a rapidly growing underclass of men who are either totally incel, functionally incel or frequently incel. This phenomena is prevalent in late capitalist societies as different as Japan and USA. Interestingly, it is still largely absent in societies which have not internalized capitalist thinking such as Brazil and other Latin American countries. It is worthwhile to point out that the percentage of men who are incel, largely incel (poor or living in male-heavy locations) of functionally incel (not that attractive or rich) in late capitalist societies is far higher than most people realize. In other words, it is a far bigger problem than most people can imagine.

In the next part of this series, I will write about why conventional “common sense” attempts to address and solve this problem are incredibly counterproductive in addition to being dangerous.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. May 9, 2018 at 11:00 pm

    as far as “incels” being white, well po’ ‘lil ER was a halfbreed just like me…

    Of course certain groups need him to be white for their political agendas…

    as well as certain organisations who raise tens of millions every year…

  2. May 9, 2018 at 11:03 pm

    in my observation, “incels” actually hate low status men more than womyn. But of course a piece of shit like David Futrelle will keep on lying to keep the narrative…

    You might find it interesting how invested this self proclaimed “incel” is in saying that UBI won’t work in the comments of one of my articles…


    Because many of them are still mentally invested in beliefs necessary to sustain late stage capitalism aka the only system the can imagine.

  3. May 9, 2018 at 11:12 pm

    “Interestingly, this phenomena is still largely absent in societies which have not internalized capitalist thinking such as Brazil and other Latin American countries.”

    I bet your conclusion is that prostitution is available in those countries…

    That is part of the reason.

    However, I speculate that something else is going on…

    Ironically, these “incels” often repeat the same “libertarian tough guy” politics seen in “men’s spaces” that are actually poisonous to low status men. They will often aggressively attack other men who have been dealt a much worse hand in life then demand these same men feel sorry for them and fight their battles for them. Then these “incels” expect sex to be doled out like entitlement checks from the government. (And this is after they go on tirades about how awful welfare is and that any man who can’t pull themselves up by the bootstraps is not a real man.)

    You think you can explain this one to me Mr. Rocket Scientist AD?

    Are you talking about the attention seeking minority who claim to be incel?

  4. Conscience constituent
    May 10, 2018 at 2:38 am

    You should ask why women expect a man to have to have sex with him,especially in an age where they have at least the same opportunities to work as men have,if not a preferential treatment in the job market.

    Also you fail to point out that the incel killers used to frequent shitty PUA sites like PUAHate that told them that the sole purpose of male existence is to have sex with women and/or be in a relationship.
    Basically they were part of a shitty community that told them that unless they had sex and/or a girlfriend they were worthless.

    I have money and looks and i enjoy being single and not having to think about anyone but myself and being in my late twenties i have plenty of energy.

    • P Ray
      May 10, 2018 at 3:31 am

      Some cool fellows frequented those “shitty PUA sites” and spoke about human trafficking. From what I can see it’s just an exchange of money for sex, like most romantic transactions.

      I might hit up one of those guys when I’m in Europe later using my residency overseas.

      If you don’t have at least 2 residencies (your home country and somewhere else) in the future it will be very easy for girls to False Rape Accuse you if you are CREEPY (don’t follow their feminist script).

      Just ask our hero Gable Tostee how his meetup with Maori warrior Warriena Tagpuno Wright (“I will destroy your jaw”) turned out.

    • Wilson
      May 10, 2018 at 3:47 am

      sex being a primary goal is hardly being indoctrinated by fringe “community” or even “society”, just look at the behavior any animal, though animals have low expectations

  5. OhioStater
    May 10, 2018 at 4:29 am

    It’s all interconnected. Disrupt all of the jobs, have robots, and you can impose effective segregation on unwanted men.

    • P Ray
      May 10, 2018 at 8:35 am

      And cushy HR jobs for the women where they can berate men for daring to talk to them while they go after the CEO with their “problem of being spoken to by scary (unattractive) men”.

      As Advocatus/dissention pointed out, the robotic system requires a lot of infrastructure and people playing nice with each other.

      Not going to happen as more and more men realise they’re either going to be cannon-fodder, dray beasts or netslaves.

  6. Gp
    May 10, 2018 at 12:55 pm

    AD you have written a lot of (excellent) critique.
    How about some speculations on important things:
    Like the ideal structure of a community(patriarchal, matriarchal, other )
    As many traditional communities r collapsing it may be the time to think of a functional, aggressive and non dysfunctional community.
    Like u speculated on the UBI.
    How about taking this blog into that direction?

    • May 11, 2018 at 2:43 pm

      There’s no such thing as a dysfunctional community. Just do you and be happy. I tell everyone this.

  7. May 10, 2018 at 7:27 pm

    Yes. Repression is not a solution. As always, it is a problem to a problem, a catalyst.

  8. May 10, 2018 at 7:43 pm

    Actually it is a problem to a solution

  9. Shiningtime
    May 11, 2018 at 3:56 pm

    Sometimes we live in our head and that becomes our reality. What I mean is when you spend so long internalizing the idea of not being attractive, that mindset becomes your reality.

    A lot of incel guys perhaps haven’t been pushed to challenge their false beliefs, like religious types.

    In my lifetime I’ve learned that simply taking action with a female can lead to sex even if you have no “game”. Sometimes just showing up and being presentable is enough.

    So many men are beat down and defeated by the current system. For any potential incels reading this, put down the video games and porn. Get out and talk to women. When you walk out onto the path, the path will reveal itself to you.

    • P Ray
      May 12, 2018 at 5:05 am

      That might work for a man who doesn’t care who he fucks, but you go too far down the road and the decision to go to prison for the bounties that reveal itself when soap is dropped gets taken seriously.

      Don’t open your mind so much that your brain falls out. There are disgusting women out there that should be avoided. There are mental women out there that should be avoided.

      Of course, few mental or disgusting women are apparent when they desperately conceal their characters to appeal to an attractive man.

    • P Ray
      May 13, 2018 at 3:00 am

      From reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/8iv9u6/19f_i_love_my_boyfriend_but_hes_lazy_doesnt_have/
      My boyfriend is broke and refuses to get a job. Should I end the relationship? (self.askwomenadvice)
      submitted 14 days ago * by throwaway-867388
      Throwaway account.
      I (19F) have been with my boyfriend (18M) for 9 months. The relationship is alright. I’m happy with him and I love him a lot but the honest truth is: he’s extremely lazy and I don’t know how much longer I can deal with it.
      I’m gonna go ahead and list arguments we’ve had about his laziness:

      he’s about to graduate. He had a pretty easy schedule all year with mostly free periods so he had very limited class work and homework. He would always tell me how he was “bored” of being home all day and how he wanted to get a job. I encouraged him to.
      a couple months pass and we still haven’t been on a single date. Sure he doesn’t have a job, however, he has hundreds of dollars in his bank account since his parents give him money. This bothered me but I never said anything about it.
      he makes music and he puts A LOT of money into it. It bothered me a little bit that he has no problem putting so much money into his music but doesn’t want to take me on a date at all.
      recently I made a comment about him not making any effort in the relationship. I always go to his house. I even take public transportation because I don’t have a car, he lives across town. He’s never done the same for me. He promised he would make an effort and start taking the bus over to my place. He never did that.
      he’s lazy in bed. It’s always me getting him off and getting myself off and never him making an effort to get me off. We had a talk about this and he said he would go down on me, put in more effort so that he could make me cum. That happened once and he stopped after that.
      recently I told him he really needed to consider getting a job because we weren’t doing anything other than having sex in his house and eating TV dinners and I would like if he took me out occasionally. I’ve supported him SO much with his passion for music. I’ve bought him a $100 microphone and I’ve even offered to go out to local music events to help him promote his music. I’ve bought him plenty of gifts and taken him places. Taken him out of town. He’s never done the same for me. He straight up tells me that he has no interest in getting a job since his parents said they’ll support him.

      So this morning he said me if I want to go see Infinity War with him. I have no real interest in seeing the movie but I said yeah. He said he would pay for my ticket and that made me a little happy, then he sends me a texts that says: “FYI: I don’t buy snacks or any of that shit when going into the movies so I’m not buying you popcorn or anything. I don’t mean to sound like a douche but I never get shit at the movies” this really upsets me because how are you gonna call this a “date” then tell me I can’t even get a drink or anything? I’ve tried to ignore it, I’ve tried to look at the bright side: he loves me and has never cheated on me.
      I’m starting to feel like I’m praising my boyfriend for the bare minimum and I’m letting him walk all over me. I don’t know how to tell him he needs to get a job and take me out without sound like a huge b****. I’m strongly considering ending the relationship because it looks like he’s nowhere near growing up and actually being in a serious, adult relationship, love him and this hurts so much. I just don’t know what to do. I NEED ADVICE!
      TLDR; boyfriend is lazy, won’t take me out on dates, when he does there’s restrictions on what I can and can’t get. Considering ending the relationship but need others input.
      UPDATE- holy shit. I didn’t expect this post to get this much attention. I don’t have the time to respond to every individual comment but i’m thankful for everyone who commented. Thank you all for your kind words of advice.
      I’m planning on having a talk with my boyfriend today, not sure what the outcome will be but I will update you all. xoxo!

      Sheriff Goodmonkey
      5 points
      11 hours ago
      I see what you are saying, and I agree to the level of discussion here, but to add to it, this guy needs to be Chad to keep her going. The reason why she is with him is because she is attracted to him, not just because he’s an asshole who stands his ground.
      women will cease to walk all over you and you’ll get ass with little or no effort.
      You will always be able to get ass with no effort if you are attractive to females .
      Anything else is a lie. A man with inferior genetic traits will have to play a numbers game with at least 2 points beneath him on the SMV scale or be wealthy. Even the landwhales with no ambition and high N-counts are just as entitled as the semi-hot Beckys with low N-counts. They all want the top perceived males. This chick is young enough to go for a Chad who doesn’t have high ambitions or work ethic. If she gets knocked up and he continues this behavior, she will have to leave him. If she thinks that he is going to leave her, she will get knocked up and hope he starts ‘working hard to provide for her’. Her Ace card in the hole is that she can get pregnant and “change” him to be the good looking, bet bux she always dreamed of. We all know how this plays out, he will still be that unemployed asshole, and she’ll be on the dating app of her choice mid-20’s single mother looking for a nice guy who has a car and a house and a full time job.

  10. Ed
    May 12, 2018 at 12:56 pm

    “To make a long story short, internalization of capitalist concepts such as monetization of anything and everything including all human interactions creates the same distribution patterns in sex as it has done with income. ”

    This is a key point. I’ve concluded, as you seem to have, that the deal with women for men is that to have sex with them the man is going to wind up paying one way or the other. There is some variance with “how”, “how much”, and “who”, but the basic fact is always there. However, I attributed this to biology and the fact that women have more to lose, or at least their life potentially changed more, when they have sex. I would think this would have been even more the case during the days where death in childbirth was the norm. But maybe late capitalism monetizing everything also makes this more acute.

  11. May 15, 2018 at 4:55 pm


    Alan Roger Currie wrote this article in 2014 about how sexually frustrated beta males will become a danger to society. While I’m happy I’m not one of these spineless eunuch MFs, this is very accurate. As a black man who has no problem dealing with women (paid of unpaid, domestic or foreign), I can’t ever justify these acts out of despair. However… there is an increasing amount of weak black men who can’t get pussy either. The idiots on YouTube (Obsidian being one of them) is a shining example, who went as far as telling women “I will happily watch what’s left of the black community burn in embers to the ground with glee!” The black community has so much more to worry about than to go on murder sprees fighting over pussy (not to toot my horn, but its evident). I find it an act of cowardice and total emasculation.

    Former black MRA Thugtician calls out these kinds of men back in 2009 (including the “wall of silence”; a black version of MGTOW) and said they will be the enemies of true social progress AND they are some of the biggest enemies of “mens rights activists” who discuss REAL men’s issues, like fathers rights, paternity issues and other more important issues black men face:

    • May 15, 2018 at 5:00 pm

      ^^^ Classic quotes from Thugtician video… ^^^

      “They validate the man=bad/woman=innocent depictions of M/F relationships that feminists invented.” [Elliot Rodger]

      “Why would a man who gets laid frequently and with variety give a damn about who women choose?”

      “It’s evident that any man who persistently whine about who women choose is a hater.”

      “His cause is a personal one, that has nothing to do with men’s rights.”

      “What kind of man hasn’t got the basic pickup skills to talk a woman into his bed, at a time and place where women voluntarily throw themselves at men for just about any sordid arrangement?”

      “Feminists say that men are violent. Pussybeggars say ‘Yes, those men over there are violent to women, but I’m not like them.”

    • P Ray
      May 15, 2018 at 6:20 pm

      @Mr. Odessa
      It’s very interesting that you condemn men who do bad things … but not the circumstances and other people who put them there.
      Very CONservative indeed.

      Remember, ignoring men and saying “going feral is their choice” … is also a sure way when tragedy comes to you or your relatives … for others to say “well, what did that person expect, they were in a “bad area”” (that changes all the time over the map).

      It’s also interesting, as dissention observes, that women don’t seem to go sexless. Perhaps this validation stops them from snapping – and yet, the same courtesy isn’t granted to men.

      Being alpha is all well and good, but it won’t protect you from tragedy, bad luck or illness.

      Remember what dissention says when people tell him “Life is unfair”:
      Unfairness has consequences.

      • May 15, 2018 at 6:51 pm

        I used to be one of those kind of incel men, from 22-27. I didn’t have an urge to kill people like Elliot Rodger, or set up camp on the internet to vent rage and cognitive dissonances. I stepped my game up and waited my turn – 30 is the new 20 for men. Dissention also said in a topic about escorts that most guys in their 20s have no ability to choose who gives them pussy; you take what you get and have to play bigger mind games (game) to stay in the competition.

        I don’t want to sound insensitive too much, but if so, so be it. Men of color in America (especially black men) have more important things to worry about than fighting over pussy, though some black men do. Comedian Patrice O’Neal said something along the lines of that considering what blacks and Indians have gone through in America, you’d think THEY’D be the ones who commit mass acts of terror and violence (not in those exact words). And it would be something serious, like social injustice. Not something as trivial as pussy. Men who get pussy on a regular basis don’t think it’s a big deal, whereas betas who don’t get any make a big deal out of it. Same as CONservatives (sexual hypocrites).

        If said woman isn’t interested in a guy, they just have to accept/respect that. If you can’t accept that, then what will you do? Rape? Date rape? Shame or coerce?

        Elliot Rodger liked blonde females. That’s his right. But if blonde females didn’t like him, he had no choice but to accept that. So, he should have either looked long and hard for one who had mutual interest, tried his luck with redheads or East Asians or rented time with voluntary blonde females. Sexual chemistry can never be negotiated. Same with race relations… If racist whites made it clear they don’t want black people in their establishments (i.e., Starbucks or Waffle House), why would any black person be desperate to beg for their acceptance and beg to spend their money in establishments they aren’t welcome? Only to have someone patronize them and spit in their food? Isn’t that desperate and a sign of someone who’s “thirsty” and lacking in self respect?

        Like the old rap song used to say, “If they bitch don’t wanna dance, move to the next hoe!”

      • P Ray
        May 15, 2018 at 7:10 pm

        Actually, the funny thing is in AmeriKKKa (and I’m not American) …
        the minority men who even joke about going My Lai get sent to jail.

        While white people can go on and on and … when it happens after numerous threats … “It’s a tragedy” lol.
        There is a distinct and certain double standards to the way words are weighted based on your race.

        Here’s an example of a guy who joked about a school shooting – wasn’t allowed to go through with it. If he was white? Probably another school shooting.

        Taiwanese student arrested for threatening school shooting in Philadelphia
        Taiwanese exchange student arrested for threatening school shooting spree in Philadelphia
        By Keoni Everington,Taiwan News, Staff Writer
        2018/03/29 10:03

        So … Patrice O’ Neal had it wrong.
        But I like one of his old jokes …
        He was asking a crowd of women (paraphrased)
        “Let’s say one day your vagina glued shut. You couldn’t use it anymore. How would you ladies show your man you appreciate him?”

        The ladies replied to variations of “I’d give him oral” “I’d give him anal”

        Patrice replied back, “I’m shocked. I thought you’d cook him his favourite dish, or give him a back rub or get him a gift. Instead it seems all you women do is define yourselves by your holes“.

      • P Ray
        May 17, 2018 at 9:20 am

        Isn’t that desperate and a sign of someone who’s “thirsty” and lacking in self respect?
        Like the old rap song used to say, “If they bitch don’t wanna dance, move to the next hoe!”

        The man that can easily move on from woman to woman …
        1. doesn’t value that one (as he has plenty of options)
        2. is a psychopath (therefore attractive to women)

        Most men are not that attractive to women, if you can brush off the concerns of that 80% of regular/ugly men – you’re a top 20% guy and
        you better hope your child is either a girl … or another top 20% guy.
        Since if a child becomes criminal and is ugly, the family will suffer by association.

        A lot of the “take it like a man and move on” nonsense, excuses nasty behaviour by women and men who think they can get away with anything. Also, the more you tell other men to “take it like a man and move on” … you better hope you don’t need their help … and can take your own advice.

      • P Ray
        August 22, 2018 at 10:49 am

        The famous Patrice O’Neal skit, where he said women define themselves by their holes

        Patrice O’Neal – How would you keep your man?

      • P Ray
        August 22, 2018 at 11:13 am

        The Patrice O’Neal clip with video!

    • P Ray
      May 15, 2018 at 6:40 pm

      @Mr. Odessa:
      who discuss REAL men’s issues, like fathers rights, paternity issues and other more important issues black men face:

      Just say it. Looks matter, and the guys who don’t have the looks … don’t matter to women.
      Of course, that would ruin the entire idea that women value relationships and family.

      They do … when it’s the most attractive guy with them.

    • P Ray
      May 18, 2018 at 9:46 pm

      Even before regular/ugly men took up arms to signal their frustrations that would never be addressed by “normal” society, regular/ugly men were already being ignored about having rights.

      e.g. A “dinner whore” who wants to meet men, but only in expensive restaurants and HE pays, is not news.
      A “dinner gigolo” who wants to meet women, but only in expensive restaurants and SHE pays IS BIG NEWS.

      As said someone said in Texas recently, “Surprise!” … it’s not ISIS, or videogames or rap music … it’s the simple idea that someone can be seen as ignore-able and sub-human or easily victimised.

      he chose not to shoot students he liked so he could have his story told … Yep, because only leaving enemies behind to spin the narrative makes it “acceptable to ignore inequality or bullying and keep it going”.

      You’re never going to be able to get rid of crime … but making the world such that men don’t feel the need to be notorious to get laid, helps plenty.
      Of course, that only happens when women finally decide to reward good men. 🙂

      Remember, not taking sides means you’re siding with the oppressor …

      • P Ray
        June 11, 2018 at 6:42 pm

        Looks like I’m right again:
        Lothario dubbed ‘Britain’s biggest player’ for ‘bedding 2,500 women’ is jailed for eight weeks after doing a runner from restaurant without paying for £450 birthday meal
        Daniel Wagster, 29, has been jailed for leaving a restaurant without paying a bill
        He and three pals gorged on steak and champagne before doing a runner in July
        Manchester man dubbed ‘Britain’s biggest player’ will spend eight weeks in jail
        Have you fallen for Wagster’s charm? Email zoie.o’brien@mailonline.co.uk

        It’s news when a man does it … when a woman gets the guy or restaurant to pay – crickets!

      • P Ray
        September 9, 2018 at 9:12 pm

        Women are so oppressed
        California man who allegedly stuck dates with the check faces years in prison
        By Paul Vercammen, CNN
        Updated 0301 GMT (1101 HKT) September 9, 2018
        dine and dash date charges brought california vercammen dnt vpx _00005719

        Gonzales is accused of repeating his alleged dine-and-dash crimes throughout the Los Angeles area, from Pasadena to Burbank to Long Beach.
        Carol Meredith got left with the bill at Mercado in Pasadena, but managers picked up her tab.

        Try and remember women wouldn’t have gone out with him:
        1. If they didn’t find him attractive
        2. If they thought they would have to pay for themselves.

        Less sympathy for women would allow them to grow even faster, as that saying which applies to men … also applies to women since men and women are equal:
        Adversity builds character.

        With so little adversity in their life, it’s not surprising many women have poor character.

      • P Ray
        March 20, 2020 at 9:58 pm

        The other fun thing to do for those who seriously want to test their women,
        is to match online,
        set up a date,
        then 5 minutes before say “I left my wallet in the house, I only have loose change in the car”
        This gives you a handy excuse to downgrade to McDonald’s.
        If she won’t meet you there, she wasn’t really interested in you anyway.

        Just as women like to test men, men need to test women.
        Especially since they are coddled in almost all societies.

    • P Ray
      June 4, 2018 at 12:00 pm

      To refute “Thugtician” …
      Smitty the Great One, another MGHOW, employed a slightly more combative analogy in his description to me: “MGTOW are the Viet Cong of the gender war.
      The men’s rights activists don’t like us because, while we agree with them on some things, we won’t be their cannon fodder in a war we know they can’t win.
      Pickup artists hate us because they can’t make money off us.
      Feminists hate us because we won’t fight them.
      And women hate us because we won’t give them what they want.”
      Sounds about right.

      • P Ray
        June 6, 2018 at 5:10 am

        This is what MGTOW looks like: Leave the “strong, independent woman” to fight her own battles:
        Fashion chief executive who was attacked by 6ft Northern Line tube passenger slams two ‘white middle class’ men after they walked into next carriage and left her to defend herself
        Tamara Cincik, founder and CEO of Fashion Roundtable, attacked on busy Tube
        Mother-of-one kicked and threatened by an ‘unwell’ 6ft man as passengers fled
        She has slammed two ‘white middle class men’ who left her to defend herself

  12. P Ray
    May 15, 2018 at 7:11 pm

    Anyhow this seems like a good place to put up this research
    [Blackpill] People need to realize that being incel goes far beyond just not having sex.
    Thread starter Welcumtotherealworld Start date Today at 12:58 PM
    Subhuman Filth

    JoinedMar 11, 2018
    Today at 12:58 PM#1
    People often associate being incel with just not getting laid when it impacts every other facet of life.

    1. People on the street will give you disgusted and mean looks.

    2. They treat you like shit when they’re forced to interact with you (cashiers, coworkers, teachers, doctors, dentists, customer support workers, etc).

    3. People have a born bias against ugly people from birth, this has been documented in multiple studies. One of which proved that infants from the time of conception prefer to look at pretty faces rather than ugly ones.

    4. People will treat you condescendingly. This one most heavily impacts the manlets here but it also affects every other type of subhuman on here.

    5. People will give you tips and say that they’re sorry you’re in the situation you’re in but in reality they want you to fail. Their reptile brain wants your genes to die, they don’t want to procreate.

    6. Your friends only want to bring you along on things so that they can mog you in front of their other friends. This one is especially true when they want you to go clubbing, to a bar, to a pub, etc.

    7. Your parents will tell you that you’re pretty in part because they’re biologically programmed to like you and in part because of the fact that if they admit that you’re ugly they’re admitting that they themselves have failed as a human. This is because if your offspring can’t procreate you have failed as a human an your genetic lineage will die with you.

    8. Your friends will do things behind your back without you and branch out to other groups without you because they think of you as a burden.

    9. You will get depressed as your brain realizes it has failed, it has failed in the one thing it was meant to do. Procreate. If you can not fulfill the only reason you were born then you are a failure from a genetic perspective and it is that genetic perspective that your reptile brain cares the most about. This reptile brain controls everything, it’s the thing that makes you get a boner when you see a pretty girl, it’s the thing telling you to procreate, to like sex, to interact, to want women, to compete with other men. It is everything. When you can not fulfill the only biological function you were born to execute then you will get depressed.

    10. You will eventually realize that it’s over for you, things are not gonna get better, the only thing driving you at this point is your instinct to survive. A pathetic remnant of some ancient bacterial ancestor long forgotten.

    11. It will impact you economically in most scenarios. Unless you create your own startup or make some type of app that becomes extremely popular then it’s over for you. People do not want subhumans to climb the economic ladder. There are tons of evidence proving this that anyone doubting this can search up. Take for example the fact that the average height among higher ups in business is noticeably taller than the rest of the general population. If you don’t believe me then think about how the more economically successful people in your life look.

    12. People don’t care if something bad happens to you. They associate being ugly with being evil and thereby relate it to you deserving whatever type of harm you receive.

    13. When you eventually become nihilistic people will look at you like some angry subhuman. They would be angry as well if they couldn’t fulfill their main biological function.

    14. You’ll eventually come to hate yourself when you realize that even though your brain wants to breed you realize that if you ever did manage to do ti you would just be creating another subhuman.

    15. You’ll get extremely annoyed by people that aren’t black pilled. They way they act, the way they move, everything will start annoy you. You’ll hate how happy they are, if only you could implant your thoughts in their head and make them WAKE UP.

    16. Eventually you will reach your ultimate low point. Your family will be dead, your friends will have forgotten you and will have moved on to start their own family. You’ll be old and filled with health problems a new one occurring every month because of your bad genetics.You’ll realize that the chance of making a comeback if it was every possible is now far behind you. Your chance to reach your maximum has faded. Your chance to procreate is gone. There won’t be a human in existence that cares about you. The only relevance you’ll get is when the people you once knew in your life bring you up whilst eating dinner “I wonder what ever happened to that guy”. You’ll realize that the only reason you needed to work is so that you could care for yourself when you get older.

    You’ll eventually lie on your deathbed, alone. Thinking about what comes after, if there even is an after. Will it be worse? As far as you can tell life is not fair and there is no reason it would be fair to you when you’re gone. The best thing you can hope for is that the pain of your existence will finally come to an end. You will hope for peace. You will embrace it as there’s no way to avoid it, you might even finally feel happy that it’s over and that your life is not in your hands anymore. Eventually your reptile brain will realize that the time has come as you shut your eyes for a final time.

  13. Brian
    May 20, 2018 at 10:32 am

    You don’t to be an ugly dude to not be getting laid in today’s world. When things were good in the West most men could get laid and find a mate. I certainly was successful at that. Now things have turned against all men. If you are a man over 35, you are not considered a baby maker, so no female gives a damn to have sex or companionship with you. They’d rather work on their “careers.” Western society has created this anti-men environment. Just look at the #MeToo movement and Rape Culture. It’s never coming back to what it was.

  14. P Ray
    September 30, 2019 at 1:58 pm

    Anyhow, some good news / LIFEFUEL to brighten the day:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12272290&ref=clavisDNA test horror: Man discovers pregnant wife is his half-sister

    Yep, keep chasing Chad, and that’s what you end up with.

    Looks like the kid is going to have physical and mental issues growing up, which will be costly.

    Father better “be a man” and “work hard” to be able to afford all of that.

    Also remember: “Children are a gift”. Just lel.

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