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Thoughts on ‘Incels’ and Alleged Public Reactions Towards Them: 3

In my previous and graph-heavy post in this series, I made a few inter-related points. Firstly, there has indeed been an unusually large increase in the percentage of young single men who report having no sexual partners each year within the last decade. Perhaps more importantly, this increase in incel-dom is largely confined to young single men, which leads us to the inevitable conclusion that young single women in same age group are likely sharing male partners (single or otherwise). It is also hard to overlook that this peculiar increase in rates of male incel-dom started at around the same time as the mainstreaming of internet dating and introduction of smartphones (starting mid- to late- 2000s).

Secondly, there is something interesting going on with the effect of race on rate of male incel-dom in USA. For starters, the rates of incel-dom in young non-white non-black (‘other’) men are almost twice those seen in their white or black counterparts. We do not see a similar pattern when comparing white, black and non-white non-black women. Why not? Also, do almost 40% of young non-white non-black single men have no sexual partner each year? Who are their female counterparts having sex with? Perhaps, it is therefore not surprising that the two poster boys of the so-called ‘incel’ rebellion (Elliot Rodger and Alek Minassian) were neither white nor black?

Some of you might want to believe that this general and sustained increase in incel-dom among young men is a consequence of the decade-long financial crisis which started in 2008.. and there is some merit to the idea that young men with poorly paid and unstable jobs might not be seen as good candidates for marriage or long-term relationships. This should, however, theoretically not affect their suitability as sexual partners in casual or transient relationships. And yet it seems to! Curiously, the ongoing great financial crisis has not exhibited any worthwhile negative impact on the ability of young women to get laid. And this in an era where the percentage of young men and women in the workforce are almost identical.

The point I am trying to make is that the real rates of incel-dom in young men (living in North America) are significantly higher than those of women in their age group- in addition to being markedly higher that recent historical norms. While there is clearly a racial element in that non-white non-black men seem to be the most affected by this trend, there is clearly enough male sexlessness to go around. So.. what is going on? It is not as if society has suddenly become sexually conservative or number of venues for meeting potential sexual partners has gone down. In fact, the opposite is true and society today is less sexually conservative than before and number of venues (especially online) for meeting potential sexual partners has increased over previous ten years.

In the first part of this series, I made the point that conventional “common sense” attempts to address or solve this problem were guaranteed to be dangerous and highly counterproductive. I hope you are beginning to see why that would be so. For starters, the number and percentage of functionally incel young men in the population of USA is high enough that any attempt to identify or crack down on such men might be problematic.. to put it lightly. Making enemies out of over ten million young men is never a smart idea. But it gets worse.. much worse.

Many of you might have come across a number of articles, videos and podcasts (since Alex Minassian’s ride) which purport to highlight the “rampant misogyny”, “blatant sexism” and “open racism” prevalent in online ‘incel’ communities. Some of you might have also come across idiots.. I mean “experts” who suggest that we should “do something” about these incel “terrorists”. Well.. here is a newsflash for them. The aggregate of all online incel communities constitute an almost infinitesimally small percentage of young men who are functionally incel. Yes, you heard that right! Self identified incels account for less than 2% of those who are in that situation.

And this leads to two major problems with any attempts to address that issue. To understand what I am talking about next, let me ask you a simple question: how are the 98-99% of incels who are not part of the online incel scene coping with their loneliness? The simple, if unpleasant answer, to that question is that a combination of hoping against hope, online porn and then a gradual disengagement from society as it exists. It is important to note that regardless of their initial levels of hope they will end up disengaging from current social status quo. To be clear, I am not talking about MGTOW- at least its more well-known forms. I am talking about a scenario where a significant minority of men have no desire to maintain, let alone defend, the status quo.

But why does that matter? Won’t the almighty apparatus of modern nation states just keep on working. Well.. not quite. Large dynamic systems, such as modern societies and nations, are far more susceptible to the cumulative effects of slow-motion collapse from internal discontent than external aggression. To make a long explanation short, the ability of modern nation states to weather a host of inevitable and periodic external and internal problems is heavily linked to the willingness of its population to be cohesive and sacrifice for the “common good”. Such systems can remain reasonably functional only as long as enough people have faith in the ability of system to deliver a better future. As I have previously pointed out, the incel problem is way bigger and more widespread than idiots attempting to address it can imagine. In other words, it is not fixable within the current status quo and will only get worse with the passage of time.

If enough people lose faith, the system starts hollowing out from the inside and becomes exquisitely sensitive to internal and external problems. Many former state-communist regimes of eastern Europe collapsed quickly in the late 1980s and early 1990s because it became obvious to its common members that the system could not deliver on most of its promises. Conversely, the communist part regime in China is still going strong because it could deliver on most of its promises. Never forget that most people care far more about the delivery of material benefits, goods and services than lofty philosophical bullshit. And this is the second issue with any attempt to solve the incel problem.. the status quo is simply unwilling to deliver the necessary goods or services.

But what does any of this have to do with incels in north american societies? Well.. a lot. As I previously showed you, the sheer numbers and percentages of such men are far larger than counting the aggregate membership in some online communities would suggest. Also, every incel or mostly incel guy past their mid-20s is one more person who has no desire to prop up, let alone sacrifice for, the status quo. There is a reason so many male-centric movements from MRA, MGTOW, ‘Game’ and Jordan Peterson fanboys to all those online communities which outwardly have nothing to with incel-dom have flourished in the past ten years.

It does not take a genius to figure out that any political or social movement which succeeds in tapping into the desire of this substantial category of men to ‘see the world burn’ would be very likely cause irreversible destabilization of current status quo. If you think I am exaggerating, read a bit about how people like Lenin, Mussolini, Hitler etc got their core supporters. Here is a hint.. WW1 created a whole generation of poor, angry, frustrated and underemployed ex-soldiers in many countries. History may not repeat, but it often rhymes.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. botterd
    May 15, 2018 at 10:39 am

    Actually, there is a (psychological) interpretation of Hitler’s anti-Semitism (and exaggerated and self-destructive ambition), which comes down to the idea (grossly abbreviating) that Hitler was socially awkward (no game), had his eye on a Jewish girl way out of his league, felt rejected by her, even though she was probably not even aware of his feelings toward her, and the rest is history. Incel-dom avant la lettre.

  2. May 15, 2018 at 11:43 am

    AD, maybe you have reached the obvious conclusion, but if not, I’ll spell it out…

    Remember how i had a post about how a big gender website Feminist Critics (LIEberal/progressive) is now largely irrelevant and gets even less traffic than my tiny, obscure site…

    Remember how I had a post that (neo) liberal scum erase mixed men such as ER and consider him white?

    Quite frankly it was great watching fat. stinky asshole feminists who laughed about male tears whine and cry that crooked Hillary lost to that monster, Donald Trump.

    It was beyond silly watching a (neo) libtard racist asshole like Bill Maher wag his finger and say that it was “my” fault that I couldn’t suck it up and vote for crooked Hillary.

    And it was gratifying as fuck to see pieces of shit like Richard Spencer whine and cry that their “god emporor” had betrayed them.

    I have no love for Don the Con but at least he has enough integrity to tell me to go fuck myself too my face…

    Those (neo) liberal scum thought us ‘lil halfbreed men were their little pets that they could kick around and we would still vote Democrat with an empty promise that shit would get better…

    I was not triggered by Don the cons “grabber by the pu$$y” comments but I was told I needed to be, otherwise I was a “misogynist.”

    None of those (neo) liberal scum cared about the fact that in crooked Hillary’s eyes I am a superpredator deplorble no matter how hard I work or how hard I try to be “respectable.”

    If those MGTurds actually were going their own way, they would ses this as an invitation to freedom. Those borads who told you “I don’t owe you shit” in your 20’s, you don’t owe them shit in your 30’s and forever after.

    I would speculate that the real reason Crooked Hillary lost to the moster, Don the Con was because so many low status men realized that you lose with the democratic party and you lose with the republican party so you might just stay home on election day or even throw an “ironic” vote for Don the
    Con just to piss off those (neo) liberals who look down upon you…

    So it seems these (neo) libtards need full blooded white guys to be “incel shooters” because they can’t admit the fact that they’ve treated guys like me like absolute shit….

    And quite frankly, like a business that sells a scam product, they deserve to fail and fail quickly…

    • P Ray
      May 15, 2018 at 3:56 pm

      If those MGTurds actually were going their own way, they would ses this as an invitation to freedom. Those borads who told you “I don’t owe you shit” in your 20’s, you don’t owe them shit in your 30’s and forever after.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/ <- This website triggers a lot of women; women hate hearing someone tell them "you had a good man previously when you were young, fertile and pretty but refused to be with him in a genuine relationship".

    • May 19, 2018 at 4:23 am

      SWAB Your mind is like that of Dennis Millers on steroids, epic! Fucking epic!

    • Shiningtime
      May 20, 2018 at 6:34 am

      It’s obvious, in hindsight, why Hillary lost. Although at the time a lot of people didn’t want to believe that Trump’s America was a large chunk of the white vote. Hillary lost because Trump quite expertly played on white fear of becoming a minority. Trump played on white victim hood and the sense that white people were in mortal peril… hence MAGA.

      The genius of the strategy was that the racism was overt but ambiguous enough looking for sincere plausible deniability.

  3. May 15, 2018 at 11:44 am

    haha borards, broads….

  4. P Ray
    May 15, 2018 at 3:10 pm

    Conversely, the communist part regime in China is still going strong because it could deliver on most of its promises. Never forget that most people care far more about the delivery of material benefits, goods and services than lofty philosophical bullshit. And this is the second issue with any attempt to solve the incel problem.. the status quo is simply unwilling to deliver the necessary goods or services.

    A-yup there. The 2 things Communist China are doing right to sustain their grip on power through social engineering are:
    1. Banning “fairytale romance” stories or events, e.g. edition.cnn.com/2016/08/31/asia/china-banned-on-tv-censorship/index.html

    2. The person owning a property (usually a man, since Chinese women only consider a guy without property if he’s white) DOESN’T lose it if the other person they’re married to wants a divorce:
    chinasmack.com/new-chinese-marriage-law-protects-mens-assets-angers-women

    They’ve learnt a lot from historians who have pointed out that:
    feminism stops men from contributing and makes them unwilling to defend the state.

  5. Conscience constituent
    May 15, 2018 at 3:44 pm

    If not for MGTOW i would still think that is my duty to be a breadwinner and work hard to support a stay at home wife.
    Fortunately i came across good info that allowed me to change the trajectory of my life,now i think only about having fun,finishing my degree and possibly try to go for a doctorate after that.
    I will never have a wife or offspring and my life is going to be great,my education and the wealth of my family will help with that.

    • Shiningtime
      May 20, 2018 at 6:37 am

      To what end? What is the point of all your endeavors, to have fun?

  6. Anonymous
    May 16, 2018 at 8:50 am

    Here’s what’s going to happen: society will say men need to be married or in some sort of officially recognized relationship with a woman in order to enter public places, vote, or get a job.

    This is all very circular because women will only marry men with income, yet you won’t get income unless you’re married. maybe you should buy income property while you can?

    It’s seems it is obvious society will come to the conclusion lesser beta and omega males are an existential threat and will want to impose some sort of formal segregation; the carousel, secret society, and workplace sexual harassment rules are already informal segregation. As is, unattached 40 year old men are creepy when they go to college bars, but in this world, that same guy is creepy and a threat when he goes anywhere in society. He’ll be forced to use Grubhub and Instacart because the bouncer and security won’t let him into the grocery store.

    As opposed to “redistributing” women to incels, as Robin Hanson clumsily opined, society will redistribute men to women, by incentivizing men to marry childless 40 and 50 year women in order to get a job or keep their right to vote. Men will calculate they can marry a 40 year old, avoid opprobrium from society, accumulate property or status in the marriage, and then marry a fertile 20 year old later in life.

    If that doesn’t work, and she divorces him, he’s in limbo since that is her signal to society that this man is unworthy and should be rejected. Google ‘Lucas Glover wife’ for an example of what this looks like. Many men will commit suicide because of this.

  7. MikeCA
    May 16, 2018 at 9:14 am

    One thing you are overlooking is there is a religious/political movement that wants young people to be taught that sex outside of marriage is evil. If you are not married, you should be incel. While most young people ignore that advice, they have enough political power to force schools in many states to teach it in sex ed classes. This movement will be opposed to any government program that helps incels, the same way they are opposed to abortion and birth control. They are probably politically powerful enough to block any government attempt to help incels.

    Liberals might be convinced to help incels. Conservatives in the USA never will be.

    • May 16, 2018 at 9:40 am

      MikeCA, your head is so far up your ass you must be suffocating…

      You precious liberals hate sexually unsuccessful men and just wish they would shut up and go away. You want to keep the narrative alongside crooked Bill Maher that the “sexual revolution” was the bestest thing ever. Who are the bigots who “bathe in male tears?” Feminists and by extension liberals.

      While I grant that “conservatives” are outta touch:

      https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2018/05/28/incel-advice-start-going-to-church/

      You fuckers are no less bigoted. If you saw me in real life you’d put me in the superpredator deplorable box even though my life is 10 times tougher than you. The Democratic party hasn’t done shit for me. And if you assholes put Joseph “Bite Me” Biden on the 2020 ticket, I’ll laugh in your face when you lose.

      Totally agree on this.. neither CONservatives or LIEbrals have anything to offer to vast majority of men, especially if they are not already rich or well-off.

  8. MikeCA
    May 16, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    ” If you saw me in real life you’d put me in the superpredator deplorable box even though my life is 10 times tougher than you.”

    I think it is telling you use the term “superpredator.” Superpredator is a term credited to John J. DiIulio Jr. There was a real, large increase in violent crime in the 1960-1990. in he early 1990s John DiIulio used the term “superpredator” to describe impulsive and remorseless juvenile offenders and predicted juvenile crime would triple by 2010 because of “superpredator.”

    In fact the juvenile crime rate declined by 2/3 by 2010. Today John J. DiIulio work from the early 1990s is pretty much discredited, a fact that even he admits. However, in the 1990s Hillary Clinton had heard DiIulio work and used the term superpredator on a few occasions.

    No one uses that term anymore. It is ancient history. No one except people who are hopelessly blinded by their hated of Hillary Clinton.

    Your use of this term tells me you have been listening to way too much Hillary hate propaganda.

    • P Ray
      May 16, 2018 at 10:08 pm

      Well, across the pond you should be aware that 10-year-olds can be gainfully employed by criminal gangs because they can’t be prosecuted.
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5701701/Offences-carried-10s-hits-record-high.html
      Offences carried out by under-10s hits record high as gang leaders recruit children too young to be prosecuted to carry out violent attacks
      New figures show record numbers of offences being carried out by children who are too young to be prosecuted
      Freedom of Information request showed, last year, children under 10 years old were linked to more than 2,604 offences – a 38 per cent increase on 2016’s 1,891
      The under-10s are carrying out knife attacks, threatening to kill and assaulting

      And it seems the US has it’s own superpredator supermodels, Jeremy Meeks and Mekhi Alante Lucky.
      They happen to be very sexually successful as well, calling into question female choice of “worthy” men. Of course, the same females who “aren’t responsible for their actions while drunk EXCEPT behind the steering wheel of a car” Interesting exemption, that.

      But I suppose it’ll only be a problem to you when it happens to a relative or friend of yours. Ancient history has a way of reminding us how relevant it is to the present day.

    • May 18, 2018 at 10:54 pm

      Tell us what the back of your teeth looks like.

  9. Steve Mancini
    May 17, 2018 at 1:02 am

    There is only one thing that is the root cause of all the problems in America: Immigration.
    As the author presents the stats, it’s non-white and non-black that are forming the larger pool of incels. Well, that defines Asians, Middle Easterners, and Latinos. There’s a reason why San Francisco or Silicon Valley gets so much hate from women looking to date – it’s filled with foreigners from predominantly, beta soy backgrounds. Indian men are common there, and they suffer the most in terms of dating. And I don’t blame the women, Indian men are the worst to be around, especially if they are here on the H1b visa. What’s interesting is that if you walk into any strip club in San Francisco, it’s majority Indian men in there, with Latinos coming in at a close second.
    With our stupid congress fighting for more cheap labor to enter from India and Mexico, we are going to see a massive change in demographics in our cities, and women are going to complain that there aren’t any good men.

    • Conscience constituent
      May 17, 2018 at 8:05 am

      Fuck off retard.

    • Conscience constituent
      May 17, 2018 at 8:06 am

      You have a fucking italian last name,so you are at the very least a son of immigrants yourself you subhuman piece of shit.

    • P Ray
      May 17, 2018 at 8:48 am

      and women are going to complain that there aren’t any good men.
      Lol, because the only good men to women … are the men that other women want

      By definition there will NEVER be enough good men,
      because women WANT the men that can CHEAT on them …

      if women wanted good men, they’d have found them
      AND
      if women complain about the men who CHEAT,
      they can either:
      Settle for “less” (in quotes because women’s standards are pretty much a guy with a diamond dick that shoots chocolate) …
      or
      be alone.

    • P Ray
      May 17, 2018 at 8:50 am

      or was it chocolate dick that shoots diamonds, hmm …

    • Shiningtime
      May 20, 2018 at 6:44 am

      Indeed, Indian men, on average, seem to lack any sort of game. I’ve noticed this in a lot of them that come here. I believe this is entirely cultural. India’s caste system is very fckd up. It prevents a lot of them from developing the skills to interact with women that men here take for granted. Coupled with the amazing surplus of men they have, and it’s an all around sht show. The average Indian man in his 20’s I see here is a complete schlub.

    • Ted
      May 20, 2018 at 11:57 am

      Growing up in LI in the 80s & 90s, area was flooded with guidos. Hair gel and cologne coming out of the faucet – it was that bad. Moved and never looked back – only visit family on holidays, and I limit my interaction with the locals. But, when a friend came to visit last summer, who still lives on LI, I asked if guidos were still a problem. She said no, most have gone extinct, or just moved.

      • P Ray
        May 24, 2018 at 8:52 pm

        Guidos are coming back soon.

        Now it’s time to find out whether women ever grew out of being attracted to “lift, tan and shower” … because MTV’s Jersey Shore Family Vacation is going to be shown soon.

  10. P Ray
    May 17, 2018 at 7:44 pm

    A good comment from
    http://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/8k6roe/the_wall_and_rabies_setting_in_together_from_mgtow/
    [–]ButtsMacGillacuty 21 points 7 hours ago*
    And for men too, who can’t find their Madonnas either because they’ve all turned cocksure feminists and because they only want the best men — the rest are trampled on like garbage. It’s truly awful that we don’t want so many men and send them on their way to the sexless scrap heap
    I CALLED IT! She’s talking about incels. Incel culture is going to go mainstream soon, in the same way other “bad” subcultures have before them that questioned the status quo like Rap, Punk Rock, Blues etc.
    They only feel sorry for incels now because chasing Chad is a zero sum game IF there’s no betas to fall back on. Incels, the very name rejects liberalism, and put the blame squarely on women for their plight.
    Whether you agree with them or not, incels piss people off because they’re low status men that have refused to blame themselves anymore for the toxic dating culture we have.

  11. thanos
    May 18, 2018 at 4:57 am

    minority birth rate declining more than white and black birth rate
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-17/us-birth-rate-hits-all-time-low-whats-behind-decline

    if more and more whites are becoming incels, you can only imagine how bad it must be for minority men, who are much less privileged than whites.

    Retards are confusing a small decline in rates with actual rates. For example, over last 30-odd years, the rates of births in countries like Saudi Arabia have dropped precipitously. But they were really high to begin with and thus the actual rates are now a bit less than three children per woman.

    FYI- the TFR for Hispanic and Black women is still noticeably higher than those of “white” women. Also, the media age of “white” women is over a decade more than Black or Hispanic women.

  12. May 18, 2018 at 10:34 pm

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingnews/alleged-school-killer-dimitrios-pagourtzis-was-nondescript-betraying-a-growing-darkness/ar-AAxu7NQ?ocid=spartandhp

    This is a good article in that it simply reports some facts without using them to frame an agenda.

    There is a well-established trend of factors revealed by the incident and the article includes all of them.

    Shooter is male
    Shooter is a loner
    Shooter is significantly above average intelligence
    Shooter was humiliated by his peers and mentors
    Shooter developed a hatred for something related to other people

    The reactions and responses to the incident will also follow the same trend and the same factors will play out as in the past. The shooter will be deemed a “madman” by almost everyone. The incident will be used as political substantiation to at least partially attempt to repeal the second amendment. No one will really consider and certainly not openly admit that they are just as capable of doing the same thing and that Demetris could simply be extremely angry. He will be considered insane.

    But, what if he is really perfectly sane?

    What if the real reason for considering him insane is to frame him as being different than everyone else only to hide the fact that each one of us is quite capable of doing the same thing? “He was a ‘madman’, he was insane, a weirdo, ‘he was mentally disturbed’…are all nothing more than psychological rationalizations against admitting the truth that we are each a savage. Projecting such paradigms on the shooter does not solve the real problem, it only serves to separate oneself and the community from the shooter in hopes that making the shooter “the problem” will solve everything. It effectively isolates the shooter from the community psychologically in the minds of the communities other individuals. It is really a way of ignoring the real problem and exacerbates it for future similar events, because it sends the message to other individuals in Demetris condition that there is no other alternative.

    This problem will not be solved by framing each shooter as ‘mentally disturbed’ or attacking gun ownership rights. As we have seen, those actions are followed by a very disturbing increase and may well be inflaming the problem.

    The problem will not be effectively dealt with until it is faced honestly. So far, and I think this will continue, the problem is being avoided. “He was mentally disturbed” and “we need to do something about guns” are both manifestations of irrational denial and a refusal to face the origin of the problem which can only be dealt with by asking honestly without caveat “Why did he do it”, “What made him so angry that he did this”, “what was the shooter attacking” and sincerely wanting to know and to sincerely help people. How many other people are out there right now feeling just as angry and hopeless as Demetris, what are they plotting, what do they perceive and what made them feel this way?

    Seems self-evident that this should be the best approach. So, this brings up the question of why isn’t the real issue being faced and dealt with? Is it because doing so would expose something else most people do not want to admit?

    • P Ray
      May 19, 2018 at 5:11 am

      The part that most people don’t want to admit …
      is that they avoid the unlucky, the unwell, the un-rich, the unattractive.
      Because the lucky, the healthy, the rich, the attractive … can provide them with possibilities the others can’t.
      Also, the unlucky, the unwell, the un-rich and the unattractive … are more likely to have something bad happen to them, and most people don’t want to be guilty by association.

      Basically also, people don’t want to admit that in order to enjoy a lot of upward mobility they have to become unfeeling, anodyne, opportunistic creatures.

    • May 19, 2018 at 9:32 am

      “So, this brings up the question of why isn’t the real issue being faced and dealt with? Is it because doing so would expose something else most people do not want to admit?”

      Best as I can conclude from pondering and observing during my sixty-two years as a US blue-collar, average-looking white male is:

      There are no once-for-all-and-forevermore solutions to certain human problems, but, as humans seeking to avoid pain and to increase pleasure, we wish for simplistic, once-and-done solutions. The needs and desires intrinsic to human existence, the variations within our bio-wirings as individuals, and our varied societal circumstances and social dynamics are too numerous, too complex, and too incomprehensible for certain problems to submit to any simplistic solutions.

      But, we humans don’t want to have to openly admit that, “at most, we can temporarily minimize this problem, but, we can never eliminate it”. Such an admission conflicts with the human need for hope, which motivates humans to “not quit but keep on trying.” Women especially resist the idea that risk and harm are inevitable parts of existence, and consequently the success of Feminism in influencing government policy and media makes any such admission tantamont to treason against humanity.

      In this case, there is no ultimate solution for eliminating all possibility of some person going into a public school to kill students and teachers; human nature being what it is, someone, somewhere will inevitably feel angry, disenfranchised, marginalized enough to react vengefully toward society with violence. Eliminate all guns and provide universal healthcare but some person somewhere would still walk into a school to kill teachers and students.

      Politicians capitalize on this human wishfulness by opportunistically supporting and/or offering “solutions”; in this case, the easy “solutions” are claimed to be gun control and mental health care.

  13. May 20, 2018 at 8:31 am

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5749709/Texas-school-shooter-killed-girl-turned-advances.html

    “The real enemies of men’s rights is not women or feminists. It is the pussybeggars and the other miscellaneous weirdos who have adopted the mantle of men’s rights to further their own petty agendas.” ~ Thugtician

    • P Ray
      May 20, 2018 at 6:06 pm

      Shouldn’t that be “the real enemies of men’s rights IN THE WEST” though? Because China clearly doesn’t want too many restless men going apeshit, so don’t really do much about TenCent, Alibaba hiring really pretty women but for positions to “motivate” their programmers. Yeah, the feminists can go nuts, but it doesn’t change things.

      The idea of “disrespect” leading to death is pretty known throughout gang circles worldwide, nothing weird about that.

      That happens to a guy and “he should have known the rules of the hood”. But when a schoolgirl gets killed everyone loses their mind. It’s not the first time that a nuclear rejection results in death, maybe the girl thought being pretty would give her a character shield?

    • P Ray
      May 20, 2018 at 9:59 pm

      The South China Morning Post had a better explanation:
      http://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2146991/she-turned-down-texas-school-shooters-aggressive

      Rodriguez said Pagourtzis had dated Fisher’s best friend and she had told her daughter “you don’t date your friend’s exes.”

      Looks like cockblocking by the mother got the daughter killed. And no surprise, the mum’s a divorcee. Guess if your own relationship fails, interfere with your daughter’s … hmm …

      Interesting..

      • May 22, 2018 at 8:37 am

        “My daughter wouldn’t drop her panties for this boy so he shot and killed her and 9 of her classmates and injured another 10″….?

        Damn! That is some powerful pussy!!!!

        Why did the mother take it upon herself to publicize this?

        Why would she be comfortable enough to do so unless a prevailing social sentiment was already established to accept such claims?

        How else would such a claim be plausible?

      • P Ray
        May 22, 2018 at 8:51 am

        Well … that young girl ignored a useful piece of advice that’s been going around the Internet for a while.

        “Use your cooter to stop a school shooter”. Think about that. Everyone needs to make sacrifices … seems people think the rich, but mostly the men – since the men need to make money to “compensate” women for the lack of genuine attraction towards those men … seems people think the rich men need to give away their wealth for the good of society,

        but women don’t have to give up anything for the good of society.

        We’re seeing how an unequal deal, amazingly, doesn’t seem to work over time. hmm …

      • P Ray
        June 4, 2018 at 11:59 am

        Asian woman sasses her ex-boyfriend who is wielding a pistol, that she was previously going out with for 5 years.

        Predictably she gets shot. Looks like GRRRLPOWER is not a suitable substitute for commonsense. The guy was smart too, he picked a time when she was only around another woman, and not a bunch of interfering white knights.

        And I bet she felt sassing the guy would have de-escalated the situation …

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5803355/Jilted-ex-boyfriend-shoots-dead-woman-rejected-outside-student-halls.html

    • P Ray
      May 22, 2018 at 8:49 am

      To refute “Thugtician” …
      https://melmagazine.com/the-straight-men-who-want-nothing-to-do-with-women-2653920a42e8
      Smitty the Great One, another MGHOW, employed a slightly more combative analogy in his description to me: “MGTOW are the Viet Cong of the gender war.

      The men’s rights activists don’t like us because, while we agree with them on some things, we won’t be their cannon fodder in a war we know they can’t win.

      Pickup artists hate us because they can’t make money off us.

      Feminists hate us because we won’t fight them.

      And women hate us because we won’t give them what they want.”

      Sounds about right.

  1. May 21, 2018 at 10:21 am

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