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Kim Jong-un is Succeeding in Making South Korea Decouple from USA

In a previous post about my thoughts on Kim Jong-un’s real motivations behind wanting to meet Trump, I wrote that DPRK wants to use the almost certain failure of such a meeting (if it were to even occur) to show that they, and not the USA, are the rational party. I made the point that the target audience for their display are people in South Korea, not USA. As I also wrote in that post, this is part of a clever multi-step strategy to drive a wedge between South Korea and USA. As of yesterday, it appears that the meeting is highly unlikely to occur on June 12. Of course, there is always the chance that it might still occur.. though I would not hold my breath in anticipation.

Here is a reminder of what I wrote on this point in my previous post on this topic..

Then next step for driving a wedge between them requires DPRK to put forth conditions for an agreement whose terms are perfectly acceptable to South Korea but will never be accepted by USA (even if they initially appear to be willing). We should therefore see the latest diplomatic overtures by Kim Jong-un as part of a strategy where he offers basically everything necessary for South Korea to accept the agreement but with just enough sticking points to be rejected by USA. That way, Kim Jong-un appears as the stable and reasonable person willing to deal with other countries such as South Korea while USA looks like some out-of-touch old white guy still living in the 1950s.

In any case, the game that DPRK is playing will work regardless of whether the meeting occurs or not. They know that the prevailing stance of american establishment towards their regime basically guarantees that such a meeting would fail even to achieve any substantive progress, even if it were to occur. Between their hate for Trump and sad delusions of white power, the american establishment is out of touch with anything approaching reality. As we have seen with the Iran Deal, the level of infighting, delusions of grandeur and sheer hubris among members of the american establishment are quite capable of sinking anything approaching a plausible and rational deal. Furthermore, this pathology is so embedded in the psyche of both older proles and establishment in USA, that it will probably last as long as they do.

Once again, to refresh your memory, this is what I wrote about it in my previous post..

They have figured out that different parts of the government in USA, such as the legislatures, can and will derail any agreement just because the D-grade actors within them like to “act tough” for the credulous idiots who voted for them. They are fully aware of the extent to which decisions made by legislators are controlled by corporate donors, especially from the military-industrial complex. In other words, DPRK understands that anything short of complete and utter capitulation by them is unacceptable to most cliques in the american government. But, they also know that many in South Korea are willing to sign an agreement with far more realistic terms.

And this brings us the question as to why DPRK issued such a nice and polite response to Trump cancelling the upcoming meeting. Here is a hint.. their main target audience is in South Korea. They are just making sure that everyone in South Korea and other relevant countries such as China, Russia etc can see that they are the rational party willing to enter into negotiations to make a realistic deal. In contrast, the almost predictable actions by Trump and his clique of neocon chicken-hawks make them look like delusional and irrational warmongers, especially in the wake of them also exiting the Iran deal. It also helps that Trump’s decision to cancel the meeting without providing any significant warning to the South Korean president makes him look weak to his own citizens in addition to being highly insulting.

But perhaps, more importantly, it makes it painfully clear to South Koreans that USA has no interest in helping solve this problem. It also confirms their suspicions that the USA is willing to start some stupid misadventure which could spiral into nuclear war on the Korean peninsula, for no reason other than to mollify its ego. And the best part, as far as DPRK is concerned, is that Trump and his clique of neocons are doing such a great job by unwittingly acting out their parts in the script. To make a long story short, the behavior of Trump and the american establishment leaves no real option for South Koreans than to start decoupling from USA and start mending their fences with DPRK. In case you are wondering, the only other option is a war which will result in the death of millions in South Korea.

DPRK might be half a world away from mainland USA, but it is next to South Korea. While the average person in USA can afford, at least at this moment, to pretend that they would not be affected in the event of war on the Korean peninsula, his or her counterpart in South Korea knows for a fact that they will have to pay a very high price for such an occurrence. Hence, South Koreans are far more interested in finding a way to peacefully co-exist with their counterparts in DPRK than people in USA. The recent charm offensive by Kim Jong-un in combination with the unrealistic and erratic behavior of Trump and the rest of the american establishment just make it far easier for South Koreans to start decoupling their foreign policy from that of USA. And decouple they will.. even if takes a year or two to start noticing the change.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. P Ray
    May 25, 2018 at 6:49 pm

    Yup, keeping negotiations open all the time, but allowing the unreasonableness of the other party to be on display is the surest way to let people know who’s the real bad guy.
    The other party can of course then say “these negotiations are private and nobody else needs to know” which makes them sound like the guy or girl who tells the other person “when we’re in a relationship, you must not let other people know and don’t take any photos” …

    you and I know how that one ends, with cheating or other bad outcomes.

  2. MikeCA
    May 25, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    The GDP per capita in NK is about $1000. In SK it is $25,000. In the USA it is around $50,000. NK is a very poor country that has directed almost all it resources into the military, leaving its people very poor.

    Ahh.. the “common sense sheeple guy” again. Here is something you should know.. GDP calculated in USD does not matter in the world today. If it did, I would not be writing a post about DPRK nukes and ICBMS. The sad fact is that figues like GDP calculated in USD only matter to brainwashed sheeple like you. Oh and BTW, the average life expectancy in South Korea is 5 years more than USA.

    The isolation of NK is breaking down. South Korean and western TV and movies are being smuggled into NK on USB sticks. NK propaganda about the outside world is less effective.

    Right.. why would people in that country have such a negative opinion of USA? Could it be that they remember the USA tried to commit racially motivated genocide in DPRK during the Korean war? Could it be that they remember that USA bombed everything in that country in first few months of Korean war and killed about 1/5th of their population before the tide of war changed in their favor? And ya.. USA lost the Korean War.

    We do not know what internal pressure Kim Jong-un is under. There are reports he has ordered the execution of a number of top people who he no longer trusted. It is possible he is under internal pressure to improve the lives of NK.

    Right.. sheeple like you believe anything they read in “respected” western news outlets. Have you ever considered that Kim Jong-un, though brutal, is a supremely rational person? Did you notice that the position of DPRK has been pretty constant since he came to power? Remember the part where he said in 2013, that DPRK would develop ICBMs and nukes before initiating talks with USA.

    I find it hard to believe that NK and SK can have a normal border with North Koreans travelling to South Korea for very long. Unless SK takes steps to raise the standard of living rapidly in NK, the situation cannot exists for long. Either NK must invade SK again or Kim is overthrown in some sort of coup.

    Of course, it won’t be a normal border- but it will be a heck better than having two armies facing each other in a state of constant readiness. In case you are wondering, the model he will likely use is the one China uses to regulate movement of people from poorer rural areas to richer urban areas. And guess what, it works.

    I’m sure Kim understands this.

    Oh.. he does, far better than his counterpart in USA.

    • MikeCA
      May 26, 2018 at 2:17 pm

      “Ahh.. the “common sense sheeple guy” again. Here is something you should know.. GDP calculated in USD does not matter in the world today. If it did, I would not be writing a post about DPRK nukes and ICBMS. The sad fact is that figues like GDP calculated in USD only matter to brainwashed sheeple like you. Oh and BTW, the average life expectancy in South Korea is 5 years more than USA.”

      My point was that North Korea is a very poor country compared to South Korea. Ordinary North Korean people are much poorer than ordinary South Korean people. And the average life expectancy is 3.5 years longer in South Korea than the USA, not 5. Oh and BTW, average life expectancy in South Korea is 12 years longer than in North Korea. (South Korea provides free tax supported healthcare to everyone).

      Here is the funny thing about your reply.. nobody knows the life expectancy in DPRK with any certainty.It is all guess work.. If you compare it with other countries with similar level of infrastructure in that region, my educated guess is that it is closer to 75 than 70. Also, don’t worry.. life expectancy in USA will continue its downward trend such that the gap between it and South Korea will reach more than 5 years pretty soon.

      “Right.. sheeple like you believe anything they read in “respected” western news outlets. Have you ever considered that Kim Jong-un, though brutal, is a supremely rational person? Did you notice that the position of DPRK has been pretty constant since he came to power? Remember the part where he said in 2013, that DPRK would develop ICBMs and nukes before initiating talks with USA.”

      I never said Kim Jong-un is not rational or that his positions have not been consistent. What I said is we know very little about the North Korean political situation. Kim knows almost everything about the political situation in South Korea and the USA, but we have no idea what the situation really is in North Korea.

      Sure.. but haven’t all american administrations to date acted like he (and his predecessors) was irrational? In many respects, the behavior and mindset of the Obama administration was no better than the current one. They all believed in the same fairy tales of american exceptionalism and global power.

      “Of course, it won’t be a normal border- but it will be a heck better than having two armies facing each other in a state of constant readiness. In case you are wondering, the model he will likely use is the one China uses to regulate movement of people from poorer rural areas to richer urban areas. And guess what, it works.”

      It is completely clear to me that the North and South Korean people want to see the country reunited into one country. I also think that the only circumstance under which Kim Jong-un would ever agree to that is if he was ruling that united Korea. I don’t see the South Korean people accepting Kim Jong-un as their new ruler.

      Short of reunification, there are lots of steps that can be taken. Sign a treaty to end the Korean war, allow family re-unification, allow more communication between North and South Korea. These steps all would be dangerous for Kim. The more the North Korean people learn about conditions in the South, the higher the risk to Kim. Kim needs the USA as an evil villain to justify his continued brutal control of North Korea.

      Actually, he does not need USA to be an evil villain when it is doing such a good job without prompting. Kim wants better relations with South Korea and rest of world (USA is irrelevant) so that he and his chosen people can get richer… and ya, the masses also have a better standard of living. And he can easily do that through selective economic and political liberalization.

  3. webej
    May 27, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    What people forget is that the loyalty Koreans feel toward Koreans far exceeds any ideological loyalties or foreign policy loyalties. Many families were split, part living in the north, part in the south. The mutual solidarity will always be far more important than abstractions like communism or democracy or whatever.
    The chance that NK will nuke or destroy Seoul is also much smaller than expected. Koreans would far prefer to throw a nuke on Tokyo or Osaka; they hate the Japanese a lot more than they hate other Koreans with “wrong thoughts” in their heads. Allegiance to the US or some such thing is a trifle compared to the feelings for the Korean language, heritage, and people.

  4. May 28, 2018 at 11:14 am

    Off Topic, AD, I think you will find this delicious, especially the part about JP thinking an ethics committee didn’t have the jurisdiction to oversee him:

    https://www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html

    I plan to write another post on that guy and the scam he is peddling in next few days..

    • Conscience Constituent
      May 28, 2018 at 4:05 pm

      Make sure you deliver,peterson is subhuman piece of shit.

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