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Some Thoughts on How TransGenderism Will Likely Lose Public Support

In a previous post on this topic, I made the point that TransGenderism (as currently promoted) is almost certain to experience a disastrous and expensive blowback. The reasoning behind my prediction can be summarized as follows: TransGenderism, as promoted today, is going to result in a lot of litigation within the next decade as many of those who underwent medical or surgical gender reassignment as children, adolescents or young adults will sue those who mutilated them without consent or realize that they were promised something not even remotely close to reality.

It is hard to escape the feeling that a very significant percentage of adolescents and young adults undergoing such procedures appear to believe that becoming transgender will provide an almost magical solution to their mental issues- from serious depression, existential dread, living under late capitalism etc. Promotion of transgenderism by corporate media, some parts of academia etc is a perfect example of neoliberalism in action. Think about it.. there is much money to be made selling therapy, expensive surgery and lifelong drugs to people who want to be transgender.

This brings me to the part where I start discussing how the ideology of transgenderism will start to lose public support. To be clear, this part precedes the one where those who promote it start having to pay tons of money to all the innocent people they victimized and become permanently disreputable in public eyes. Readers might have noticed that elite rags.. I mean ‘magazines of repute’ such as The Economist and The Atlantic have, in past few months, started to question the narrative that promoting transgenderism among children and adolescents is “right” thing to do.

In my opinion, this push-back from elite neoliberal rags is probably the smallest component of a much larger trend. Indeed, many other parties who have harbored negative views on this topic.

1] Biological straight women, irrespective or race, have never been big fans of transgenderism. For starters, they rightly see trans “women” as imposters who are trying to get the privileges which come with being a woman without suffering most of the downside of being born as one. They, also, do not like any extra competition- especially from biological men pretending to be biological women. Changing the body of a Toyota Corolla (even an up-engined one) does not make it a Porsche 911 nor does changing the styling of an SUV make it a Econobox car.

Biological straight men, irrespective of race, are also not big fans of transgenderism- not only because of the imposter problem but also because they have little interest in having sex with transgender “women”. Furthermore, they are not happy with the amount of attention devoted to transgender issues, while their own and much bigger problems (chronic underemployment, punitive sexual environment etc) are openly ignored. Many see transgenders as attention seekers with mental issues and no amount of SJW propaganda will change that viewpoint.

2] Even the so-called allies of transgenderism, such as Gay men and Lesbian women, are not big fans of that ideology. Sure.. there are a few attention seeking activist types among them who pretend they are in the same boat as transgenders- but most don’t, and here is why. It is no secret that a significant percentage of gay men tends towards the feminine side while a similar percentage of lesbians tend towards the masculine side. However the vast majority of gay men and lesbian women are fine with their biological gender and is an important part of their identity.

Transgenderism, therefore, creates a philosophical inconsistency for gay men and lesbian women since it (once again) makes their same-sex sexuality a conscious choice rather than something inborn. And let us be honest, the gay and lesbian rights movement has spent decades reversing the popular notion that their alternative sexuality was a choice rather than something they were born with and I, for one, believe that sexual orientation is inborn. But there is an even bigger problem and massive conflict of interest..

People realize they are gay or lesbian because they are attracted to others of the same sex as they grow up. But what if a bunch of “psychologists” and “experts” supported by the corporate media tried to tell that being attracted to somebody of your own sex meant you were the “wrong” sex? And this is not just a theoretical question since gay men and lesbian women in Iran are forced to undergo sex change operations so they become the “right gender”. Don’t you think the perverse incentives of late capitalism and SJW-ism might create a similar situation in USA?

3] The extensive wall-to-wall positive coverage of transgenderism by corporate media at a time when half the people (with jobs) in USA make less than 30k/ year, most live paycheck to paycheck, a majority have less than one thousand dollars in savings and are one semi-serious illness away from bankruptcy does not bode well for the future of that ideology. Similarly, repeatedly celebrating the alleged “bravery” of some attention-seeker of no consequence on traditional and social media is slowly but surely alienating the general public from that cause.

Do you remember how Trump won the 2016 republican presidential nomination in spite of insulting and trash-talking establishment icons such as John McCain, George W Bush and his sad-sack brother Jeb? Ever wonder why he was able to win the general election despite his atrocious sexual history with women? Could it because his unfiltered and plebian talking points sounded more authentic to voters than other republicans or HRC? Maybe that is also why his approval rating among republican voters is still so high in spite of an almost two-year long incessant campaign by establishment media to mobilize public opinion against him.

My point is that trying to force a deeply problematic viewpoint, on something as central to human identity as gender, down the throats of an unwilling public is almost certain to make an increasing number of them swing the other way. Furthermore, they will do so regardless of what some made-up consensus by “experts” and “institutions” says- especially since the public has lost faith in both since 2008.

What do you think? Comment?

  1. September 3, 2018 at 5:36 pm

    I have no problem if society wanted to create a “third gender” for the very rare (less than 1 in a thousand) individuals who were born hermaphrodites/kleinfelter syndrome/intersex. However some sicko like “Kate” Jenner claiming “her” human rights are violated because “she” needs to pee standing up in the ladies restroom at Target is a total derail. We aren’t allowed to talk about poverty, war and real shit. But the crooked media wants us to feel sorry for a privileged millionaire asshole…

    Of course the corrupt Democrats love trannies. They can say they are “fighting for human rights” all while shitting on low status men. Same shit different day.

  2. September 3, 2018 at 5:40 pm

    and on another note, so-called MGTOWS like Barbarabrowski are obsessed with trannies. I think it is because they visit hookers even more than you do and they get discounts from the trannies and they can justify that they aren’t supporting gynocetricism because they are banging a dude but they are not as flamming as some alt-rite nutjob because the dude has silicone titties and wears high heels or some shit.

  3. P Ray
    September 3, 2018 at 11:42 pm

    Transgenderism gets my support for 2 reasons:
    1. it riles feminists
    2. there are a bunch called TERF that have said in the past it is fine to punch women (hence, equality).
    3. transgenders committing crimes make it hard for women to say “we need to close prisons because women are not criminals”.
    4. it will hopefully be the tipping point to the grievance train of gender relations.

    Too often women have not been challenged without destroying the challenger (since they call the blue thug squad to get them), transgenders are a useful opponent against them.

    • P Ray
      September 3, 2018 at 11:43 pm

      4 reasons, typed too fast …

  4. P Ray
    September 4, 2018 at 12:26 am

    People realize they are gay or lesbian because they are attracted to others of the same sex as they grow up. But what if a bunch of “psychologists” and “experts” supported by the corporate media tried to tell that being attracted to somebody of your own sex meant you were the “wrong” sex?

    It could also be that they got no attention from the opposite sex too … remember, women only find the top 10% – 20% of men attractive, so in the way the remaining men get around to “prison relationship thinking” … well, the mentality of “a hole is a hole” comes(pun intended) into play.

    The constantly-pounded-into-your-head-idea that “(normal)men are not entitled to attention from women”, that guys face, is definitely a reason. Oddly enough, women don’t openly shout that to famous actors, singers and businessmen

    But no man wants to point that out, as that would put the blame on women. Women are never guilty of anything you see …

  5. Colby
    September 4, 2018 at 5:15 am

    @P Ray; TERF’s are feminist cunts against trans people, hence Trans Exclusive Radical Feminists.

    • Colby
      September 4, 2018 at 6:23 am

      basically, the trans community says it’s okay to punch a TERF in the face.

      • Colby
        September 4, 2018 at 6:26 am

        For example, all of us here could qualify as Masculine Presenting Transgender Lesbian (MPTL) and we would be justified in punching some cunt like Amanda Marcote or Anita Sarkeesian in the face.

  6. Colby
    September 4, 2018 at 6:28 am

    Because Cis woman TERF’s are scum of the earth. See how that works? 🙂

    • September 4, 2018 at 7:30 am

      If I see a tranny dude beating the shit outta Amanda Marcote, I won’t do a thing. How do I know it’s not these two sickos’ BDSM fantasy ™ -and isn’t that the one thing worse than rayyyype ™ ???? Interferring with a BDSM sickos’ fantasy ™ is the wortest thing a low status male can do. I certainly won’t call the police as I wouldn’t want to risk my safety and have to popo accuse me of being stoned or some other infraction. And since the femanzi regime demands that womyn and men are equal and gendar is a social construct, I’ll let the two gurls fight. But between you and me I think Manjaw Marcrappy is a dude. Even less passable than Anne “the man” Coultier.

      If the boys wanna fight, you better let ’em!!!

  7. Lucial
    September 4, 2018 at 10:25 am

    It’s incorrect to think that Trans people are homosexuals only. I know many men who became Women, still have their penis, and prefer to only have sex with women. A transgendered “woman” has the title of a lesbian now. It’s still a man having sex with a woman.

    • Weekend Goth
      September 4, 2018 at 10:41 am

      “men who became Women [who] still have their penis”
      I’m sorry to break it to you, but that’s outright bullshit.

  8. thordaddy
    September 4, 2018 at 8:08 pm

    Even the so-called allies of transgenderism, such as Gay men and Lesbian women, are not big fans of that ideology. — Devil’s Advocate

    Nonsense! All parties are submissive to the ideology of “radical sexual autonomy” including the author, himself.

    And it’s tough to critique “neoliberalism” with neo-liberal assumptions.

  9. Conscience Constituent
    September 4, 2018 at 10:49 pm

    *For starters, they rightly see trans “women” as imposters who are trying to get the privileges which come with being a woman without suffering most of the downside of being born as one. *

    Could you please elaborate on what kind of disadvantages women suffer from in modern day US and European Union when compared to men?

    • P Ray
      September 5, 2018 at 10:08 am

      That’s an easy one, women can’t go topless like men in modern day US and European Union.

      It truly is a defining disadvantage in the life of any woman. /s

  10. September 7, 2018 at 8:01 am

    Changing the body of a Toyota Corolla (even an up-engined one) does not make it a Porsche 911 nor does changing the styling of an SUV make it a Econobox car.

    LMAO. Great analogy and you’re right. However, believe it or not, there ARE a lot of “straight” men who ACT as if they hate trannies, but they sleep with them discreetly. Just like the “Down Low” men who are also invading the rap music industry, as well as gay Republicans and CONservatives – who preach “traditional family values”, but they get caught with trannies, babysitters and interns. And getting caught left and right! The 10-year-old HBO documentary “Outrage” called this bullshit out perfectly. It’s no different and no less destructive than religious “leaders” preaching against “sin, lust and fornication” at day, and then play in choir boys’ butts at night.

    Biological straight men, irrespective of race, are also not big fans of transgenderism- not only because of the imposter problem but also because they have little interest in having sex with transgender “women”. Furthermore, they are not happy with the amount of attention devoted to transgender issues, while their own and much bigger problems (chronic underemployment, punitive sexual environment etc) are openly ignored. Many see transgenders as attention seekers with mental issues and no amount of SJW propaganda will change that viewpoint.

    In the black community, there’s a handful of black women who DO support transgenderism either because they know that sexual preference IS totally irrelevant to the black experience and because blacks have more things to concern themselves with than what goes on in someone else’s bedroom – although there ARE some black “incels” whose main gripe is women’s hypergamy (black women’s weakness for “bad boys”), which to me is extremely fucking pathetic. On the other hand, there ARE some black women who celebrate black male emasculation and find black gay males a lesser threat to their “upper hand” – same can be said about racist whites’ fear of black masculinity. And yes, in mainstream America, more attention does get paid to LGBT and transgender issues than bigger problems plaguing black america (the state-sanctioned murder of unarmed blacks, black-on-black crime, etc…)

    It is no secret that a significant percentage of gay men tends towards the feminine side while a similar percentage of lesbians tend towards the masculine side. However the vast majority of gay men and lesbian women are fine with their biological gender and is an important part of their identity.

    Alan Roger Currie interviewed a black dominatrix, who feels in HER mind that most men are weak and desperate or dependent on feminine energy (she is absolutely right, as unpleasant as that reality is – Most crimes of passion are committed by men and even Charles Bukowski said that men are more skilled at love and romance, while women are more skilled at drama and betrayal). The dominatrix admitted that there are more gay men who undergo sex changes (MtF) than lesbian women who want sex changes (FtM); that it’s not often you hear lesbians trying to resemble men in appearance or behavior. Whereas gay men tend to act more feminine than masculine – for those types, they identify themselves as “transgendered women” or they crossdress and engage in more reckless activity).

  11. Thomas K.
    September 10, 2018 at 10:27 am

    Not sure if you’ve seen it or not, but Spandrell at his Bloody Shovel blog wrote a post that pertains to this topic:

    https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2018/08/26/the-bap-trap/

    That’s just the first part, but I think that his position is that homosexuals (both male and female) have come up with various ideologies to rationalize a re-structuring of society according to their proclivities, and that it is the acceptance of transsexualism — perhaps under some religious pretexts — that may eventually undermine the agendas of the regular gays.

    • thordaddy
      September 10, 2018 at 1:56 pm

      Homo = same = EXACT same = Self…

      Homosexuality = self-sexualizing = self-annihilation.

      Transsexualism = “radical sexual autonomy” = explicit homosexuality…

      • Thomas K.
        September 10, 2018 at 2:00 pm

        Huh. These linguistic insights are actually spot-on.

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