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Interesting YouTube Channel: Ancient Architects

Sometime ago, I came across an interesting channel on YT. Before linking to it, let me quickly describe what it is about and my thoughts about it. To make a long story short, the channel is about whether conventional histories of ancient civilizations are true. Some might say that it has an ‘Ancient Aliens‘ vibe to it and there is some merit to that view. Then again, I have been around long enough to know that “scientific” consensus based on fragmentary or selective evidence is the secular version of religious dogma.

So should you believe everything on that channel? Of course not! Having said that, he does tackle topics for which conventional explanations provided by “credentialed experts” are pretty dubious sounding. For example, I have never been satisfied by explanation that the three great pyramids of Egypt were built by 4th dynasty Pharaohs for the simple reason that their names barely appear on those monuments. Contrast that to inscriptions on most other large ancient buildings in Egypt that go to considerable lengths to highlight name of Pharaoh who built them.

Similarly, Greek travelers to ancient Egypt wrote about certain large structures which have not yet been rediscovered. What happened to them? The conventional explanation for their absence is that they did not exist in first place, and that could well be the case. However a few of those alleged structures were quite large and in areas containing other evidence of human occupation and construction, so one cannot discount possibility that they have not yet been discovered.

Link to Channel: Ancient Architects

I should also point out that unlike many others whose explanations for large ancient monument involves intervention by aliens from space, this guy sticks to idea that humans built it. Furthermore, we now know that humans at end of last ice-age were far more advanced, capable and organised than was previously believed. In my opinion, his videos about specific topics are closer to reality while those on meta topics are far more speculative.

Clip # 1: Is Atlantis located on Rockall Bank, a now-submerged island, located northwest of Ireland? Many parts on that bank are less than 100 m below the surface, which would place them above sea level as late as 11k or even 9k years ago. Given that ocean current patterns in Atlantic were also a bit different at that time, it could also have even have been more habitable than today.

Clip # 2: This one is about the lost pyramids of lake Moeris in Egypt. As I mentioned previously, certain large monuments described in considerable detail by ancient Greek and Roman travelers to Egypt have not been rediscovered. The two pyramids and associated buildings in what was once an artificial lake is one of the better known instances of a ‘lost’ monument complex.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. MikeCA
    September 23, 2018 at 11:30 am

    Plato wrote about Atlantis in his dialogues Timaeus and Critias in about 360 BC. He said that Atlantis was destroyed and sunk into the ocean around 9600 BC. Plato describes Atlantis being a powerful civilization that conquered Northern Africa as far as Egypt and Europe as far as Italy. They were eventually driven back by an alliance lead by Athens. All this before 9600 BC when the Atlantis was destroyed.

    There is no record of Atlantis before Plato used the story in his dialogues around 360 BC. The Atlantis story in the dialogues seems to be a fictional allegory. Other nations could not resist Atlantis but the ancient Athenians, Plato’s ideal civilization, were able to repel their attack.

    Of course, in reality ancient Athens did not exist in 9600 BC, so Plato certainly made that part up. The fact that Plato’s account is the first mention of this story and that Atlantis was suppose to have conquered much of the Mediterranean does not make sense.

    The story and details of Atlantis in Plato’s dialogues are almost certainly fiction. Many have speculated that Plato based parts of the fictional story of Atlantis on locations or events, but I think the myth of Atlantis is a tribute to Plato’s story telling ability.

    Yes, I am aware of that. Also one should assume that a good part of what Plato wrote was exaggerated or made up. Having said that, I have also read a similar account of India by Megasthenes (surviving parts of Indika). Long story short, Megasthenes gets some things quite wrong- but he gets quite a lot right too (even if exaggerated).

    The idea that Rockall bank was an inhabited island during peak of last ice age and as late as 9,000 BC is quite plausible. Did it host some super-advanced civilization? Most likely not, but it is plausible its residents might have possessed good shipbuilding skills. I would not rule out that now submerged island being an inspiration for the Atlantis or Avalon story.

  2. MikeCA
    September 23, 2018 at 6:24 pm

    The 9000 BC date for Atlantis is completely ridiculous.

    The earliest structures at Gobekli Tepe date back to 11,000 BC and, by the looks of it, people who built display a level of competence which can only come from previous experience.

    Human agriculture only started around 10,000 BC. The Stone Age did not end until between 6000 BC and 3500 BC when the Bronze Age began. There are a few pieces of bronze found in Europe that have been dated to 4500 BC, but wide scale production and trade in bronze artifacts did not begin until around 3500 BC. The Mycenaean civilization in Greece was between 1600–1100 BC, which saw the creation of cities like Athens. This was followed by the so called Greek Dark Age, when no records were kept. The Ancient Greek civilization began about 800 BC or later. The Athenian democracy began around 450 BC.

    Agriculture, as we know it, is not a precondition for the ability to build large structures or even ships. Also, there are many things about ancient civilizations which we still do not understand. For example: How were ancient Egyptians able to cut and work granite with copper or bronze tools? How did cities of Indus valley civilization come up a excellent template for town planning including water and sewage systems without any known precursor.

    Nine thousand years ago on an island beyond the the pillars of Heracles was Plato’s version of “A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away….”

    Perhaps, that might be the case. Then again, there might be some factual basis for that story. We do not know enough to be certain. Case in point, we know know that Doggerland was far more important for human colonization of British Isles than first thought. During the ice age and late as 11k years ago, most of those Isles were under still under ice and Doggerland provided far more than a transit route for eventual human colonization of those islands.

  3. Gp
    September 24, 2018 at 8:18 am

    Interesting channel and observations. After you are done with the Varna series, why don’t you do a series on archeology.

    Might do that later. Will finish series about the jati system first.

  1. September 26, 2018 at 11:06 pm

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