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Why Escorts are Always a Better Deal than Relationships or Marriage: 2

In the previous post of this series, I wrote that using escorts for over a decade changes how one sees the world- in ways most cannot even imagine. Normie relationships, once a tolerable option to escorts, now feel pathetic and devoid of meaning. Many ideologies from MRA and traditionalism to MGTOW and new-agey BS sounds ridiculous, though to be fair.. one can reach that conclusion by many other routes. The same is true of most ‘game’ and ‘seduction’ communities, which bear more than a passing resemblance to religious and secular cults.

But what does any of this have to do with special insights provided by using escorts for well over a decade? Surely, one can arrive at the same conclusions about relationships, ideologies and belief systems without using escorts.. right? Well.. yes, you certainly can arrive at broadly similar conclusions via many other pathways. The difference comes down to how you integrate all of it into a self-consistent mental model of human behavior and society. Confused? Don’t be.. I will explain everything in detail (as much as is possible and prudent).

But before we go any further, there is one thing I want to be open about. Some of my older posts might give the impression that the switch from getting sporadic “unpaid” sex to purchasing it regularly was relatively quick and complete. The real story is more complicated. While I did start using escorts in the early 2000s and have not stopped since, I did not give up on the idea of normie relationships right away. It was almost 2010, before I finally gave up on it. Readers might see a connection between that time frame and my first posts on this blog.

There was a period of almost 8-9 years where I was used escorts regularly, but had not totally given up on the idea of having long-term relationships. Some of you might say.. “but didn’t you have some atrocious prior experiences with attempts at normie relationships. Well.. yes, that is true. However, I did get some sporadic and mediocre ass during those years and part of me never stopped wondering if it was possible to improve on that.

But where did I get this odd idea? As some of you might remember, I did not take any student loans during my M.Sc and money was tight during those years. During that time period, I often wondered if my chances at getting decent-looking chicks without mental issues would have been better if I had a decent job, more money or preferably both. A few months after finishing my M.Sc, I finally got a reasonably OK job that paid really well for being part-time. Adjusted for inflation, it would be around 50k in 2018 and with zero student loans or debt of any kind. Not bad for working noon-5pm, five days a week.

I started going out more, buying nice clothes and shoes, eating in nice restaurants and generally living a comfortable life. This is also when I first started to use escorts and also help a few poor chicks in exchange for personal services. I also tried meeting women through a variety of routes- from bars and pubs, book readings and concerts to internet dating sites. And yes, I did meet a few somewhat acceptable women through those routes. However, the attitude of those few along with the very high number of racists, flakes and delusional women pushed me further and further way from conventional dating.

I mean.. why would I invest so much time, effort and patience into meeting women or developing relationships when all I really wanted (sex with hot women) could be purchased at a reasonable hourly rate? You could say that this was this was the beginning of my permanent disillusionment with dating. But why, then, did I not lose all hope in finding relationships at that time? Well.. there are a couple or reasons. Firstly, some of my quasi-financial relationships with poor chicks were emotionally satisfying enough to keep alive that possibility. Secondly, I felt that moving to a more cosmopolitan city might alleviate issues related to racism.

A couple of years later, I got a full-time job near a large cosmopolitan city. This one paid even better than the previous one (obviously!) and the work environment was generally good. So I did what I had done previously on a larger scale. Long story short- I went to tons of different bars, large public events, talked up many chicks in public settings, tried many dating sites etc. Just to clear, I never stopped using escorts. Sure.. I was more successful in the conventional sense (especially in bars frequented by cougars and heavy drinkers) and did manage to bang a few OK looking chicks who I first met under ‘normal’ circumstances.

However the amount of time and effort I had to put into getting decent looking chicks was just too high, as compared to just using escorts. Banging a chubby chick who waits tables at some nearby restaurant is a far inferior experience to banging a model-level escort. OK.. a 20-year old moderately chubby chick who likes to take a pounding is not bad, but what do you do after that? Similarly, doing it with an average-looking 30-something chick (with a BF) who worked as a cook in yet another restaurant pales next to an enthusiastic pretty spinner who looks deliciously underage. But there was more to this than looks alone..

I never felt a real emotional or intellectual connection with any of these women. I never felt any certainty about a potential relationship. I never felt my life would be somehow incomplete without them. I never felt anything beyond what I had already felt for women who have sex for money. Conventional relationships started to feel like a sad charade which provided less than what one can buy but require much more time and personal involvement. This is also the one period in my life where I drank a lot, almost every single day. In retrospective, this had a lot to do with a general dissatisfaction about my attempts at forming relationships.

Since we are already at a thousand words, I will wrap up this post now. In the next one, I will tell you how my attempts at relationships (after the second job) during my PhD ended up validating what I had long suspected about relationships. FYI- It was towards the end of this next period that I finally become the deeply cynical and misanthropic person you all know today. This post has a lot of Is, doesn’t it?

What do you think? Comments?

  1. Gp
    October 4, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    AD, you make many valid points. But there is a contradiction.
    You have denounced Islam in one of your posts but your attitude towards women and those who do you wrong/are not helpful is quite similar to the ethics taught by Islam.
    Where are you on this issue

    Not sure what you are talking about. I am all for women doing whatever the heck they want to, live however they want to.. etc. It is just that I prefer to pay by the hour and not waste my time and put effort in developing some worthless relationship.

  2. October 4, 2018 at 10:37 pm

    One thing I realized in my rather limited sexual experience is that I would not want to wake up next to anyone the next morning (even a supermodel.) You bring up the ideas that you got with hotter womyn by banging prostitutes than not prostitutes (even though you paid ’em with drinks and your time.) However, did you ever develop emotional connections with the hot prostitutes that you didn’t with the non prostitutes?

  3. October 4, 2018 at 10:39 pm

    2nd part of the ill formed question. I think for most guys part of the enjoyment is that the lady is digging it. Presumably like when a band plays live, they might be happy they are getting paid and the sound is good. But part of why they are happy is because the audience loves it. So do you think it is valid if part of the enjoyment for men is they enjoy someone elses pleasure and they wouldn’t get that by paying a prostitute.

    • October 5, 2018 at 7:08 am

      U can pretty easily get pro’s off if you know how to touch a woman and how to fuck/ make love (yep u can make love to hookers IF you get with the right women). Idk ppl turn prostitution into this big “thing” but it’s really not a big deal, and pros are still WOMEN/ PEOPLE. U guys watch too many movies or something.

      It’s funny bc often I have had pros “judge a book by its cover” with me, and then once we started talking/ relaxing and once I got my hands on them/ they smelled how alluring my scent was (that shit matters a lot just in general) a switch flipped, they got comfortable, and they weren’t faking it either. Many DO fake it but, regular women/ married women fake it too and truth be told, the only kinds of guys who REALLY have women who truly want them 100% from start to finish are guys that are basically “animals.” AD went more in depth on what that means in the post he linked in this article about the dark side pt5 but honestly, most women (people really) dont know what they really want until they get it.

      I’d NEVER in a million years have a shot with many of the pros I fucked if I didn’t pay, but once I did, and certain assumptions were filtered out, they got off hard. Not gonna pretend like that happens a lot (maybe 5%?), but that’s only bc my funds are limited and that affects who I can see but, unless u are an animal YOU ARE PAYING

  4. P Ray
    October 5, 2018 at 1:20 am

    I never felt a real emotional or intellectual connection with any of these women.
    That’s because most women don’t get ahead or make a living with their intellect.

    Cue the ugly woman brigade, who are only able to be interested in Chad Thundercock, but settle for the boring guy, and they talk about how much they had to “sacrifice”.

    The ones that talk a lot about “we had a great connection” seemingly never have that connection with guys that have a proper vocabulary … as you’ve experienced they develop the great connection with a man-mountain illiterate, or tortured artist or pitiless public pisser.

    • Weekend Goth
      October 5, 2018 at 5:24 am

      “pitiless public pisser”

      Are you serious? That would be pretty low-level.

      • P Ray
        October 5, 2018 at 8:55 pm

        I have chronicled my move towards the dark side in previous parts of this series, and some other posts. This one is devoted to the tastes, or lack thereof, of women who rejected me.

        Some of you might still be under the impression that women who rejected me over the years had better options or higher standards. So read on..

        Note- All the women I talk about below were 4s, 5s and low 6s. Not a single one of those described below was a high 6, let alone a 7. In every single case the women, by their own admission, did not stop having sex with that guy. In most cases, they had either recently dated the guy in question or were still occasionally seeing him.

        1] Guy pissed in girls mouth while she was blowing him, and then proceeded to piss on her face.

        2] Guy pissed in closet of her parent’s house- in front of her parents.

        There’s nothing like hearing how women want to be respected and loved by the man she’s in a relationship with.

  5. Wilson
    October 5, 2018 at 5:39 am

    Without the goal of children relationships are indeed pointless. The PUAs get some enjoyment out of dating by “gamifying” it, but despite their rejection of paying for sex they seem to target poorer women, often by posing as traveling businessmen in countries with a relatively lower standard of living. The only downside of prostitution is the legal risk, and the way things are going “forcing” a woman to have sex for money will probably end up being punished as rape.

    • October 5, 2018 at 11:49 am

      in western cultures.

      • P Ray
        October 5, 2018 at 9:09 pm

        Would love to hear about the cultures that have “stayed non-western” despite pervasive media influence and advertising dollars that are specifically geared to make women want a western lifestyle.

  6. Shiningtime
    October 5, 2018 at 11:51 am

    I use escorts ocassionally, especially to break a dry spell if I’m not having success pulling. When I was younger in the military I’d fck anything. I’m embarrassed thinking back on it where I’ve stuck my dick.

    Now 34, I’m way more picky. Particularly because I want kids with a good woman. Escorts in my opinion are girls to have fun with. Live out hedonistic fantasies. That’s about it. It’s not that complicated to me.

    Speaking of escorts, I’m trying to find one that looks like this girl I follow on IG. Young. Latina. Slim. Light brown skin. Black hair. A real dime. I may need to take a trip to South America. Lol

    • October 5, 2018 at 2:21 pm

      Apart from perhaps feeling some instinctive desire to produce kids — why do you want kids? What’s your rational reason for wanting them? (I’m age 62, married 40 years, have six all-now-adult kids with whom I enjoy good relationships, meaning, I’m not asking this as a guy who has no experience being a father).

  7. Manufacturing jobs are not *middle class* and college degrees are not useless.
    October 6, 2018 at 1:58 am

    Frankly living in a rather traditional country such as Italy i have seen a lot women treat men like walking ATM,a few times chatting with housewives on train or a bus i had them tell me that to my and a couple of them even mentioned that they threw tantrums with their husbands and sons just for the fun of it.
    Women were never our friends and never had any compassion toward us,which frankly is not a huge problem,the problem is bullshit family values,monogamy and society wanting to socialize men to belive in romantic love bullshit.

    In my country ever since 1939 women by law retired five years before men could do with no reduction to their pention and us men are the gender that dies younger,my grandfather died when he was 60 from having done backbreaking labour all of his life,his sister and wife died at age 83 and 91 respectively.

  8. Jay Fink
    October 7, 2018 at 11:10 pm

    I appreciate that you said “decent looking chicks without mental issues”. I have been in relationships with good looking women all my life (with dry spells in between relationships) and every one of them had had mental health issues. The most recent one was the worst yet…bipolar with intense anger, extreme racism, and out of this galaxy delusions (I am tempted to give you her name so you can read her Facebook ramblings which are still online no matter how crazy and racist they are).

    Anywhere I went with the crazy, people would tell me how lucky I was to have her. Now they think poor guy he got dumped by that beautiful woman…They have said that to me not knowing the situation. They have no idea what I have been through! It took me this long to realize that the only hot chicks who are interested in me are crazy…yet I have no interest in sane ugly women. Maybe escorts are the answer for me, I used them many years ago and enjoyed the transactions.

    • Hmic
      November 2, 2018 at 5:29 pm

      Beauty = power. Power makes the mind drunken.
      What you call mental issues is top-grade narcissism, got off the handle.

  9. m
    October 9, 2018 at 11:26 pm

    now that sex dols are becoming increasingly better and better, do you think that will price out the escorts for men who just want to get their rocks off?

    • hoipolloi
      November 3, 2018 at 9:52 am

      Agree. We can expect sex dolls replacing escorts to a large measure. Like escorts replaced the need for whore houses and street walkers. Nature has put so much sex drive in men, there is not much difference between real and virtual sex in providing relief and pleasure. Vast and free internet porn and masturbation is the answer to male sexuality. The traditional sex is a niche play.

  10. goat
    October 11, 2018 at 3:11 am

    The real secret to escorts is ONLY use them to put the icing on the underlying cake of masturbation. Like one escort session per month or less. That’s when they really become economical. But you need to perfect your masturbating technique: become multi-orgasmic so you can have 50 or so orgasms per day; develop your female pole so you can imagine having sex as a woman, since the woman gets most of the pleasure during sex; avoid ejaculatory peak orgasms like the plague, since they exhaust a man. Sexual kung fu aka Tantra. When you do go for your monthly or whatever escort session, make sure she’s top quality, since you’ll be using her repeatedly in your imagination later.

    At $500/session, 12 times per year, that’s $6000. Too expensive? Make it 4 times yearly for $2000. And then subtract from that the nice apartment, nice car, nice clothes, dating expenses, etc you’d need to get a decent quality girlfriend. Escorts are a bargain! Sex dolls are of no consequence. You can already get a Fleshlight® plus cam girl which together is better than a sex doll.

  11. hoipolloi
    November 3, 2018 at 10:42 am

    Hope technology as I said above brings escorts to their rightful place. They get $500 a session (hour) which is not sustainable. There was this old expression, she got it, sells it, and still got it. In other words, it costs her nothing tangible in the transaction. At the rate mentioned it amounts to an annual income of one million dollars with no income tax. (500x8x5x4x12). And the SJWs think they are the victims.

    It is far less expensive in all developed countries other than USA. More like 200-300 dollars/hr to barely 100 Euros in many Mediterranean countries- and we are taking about proper escorts.

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