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Request for Feedback from Readers on Topics for Two Upcoming Series

While writing an upcoming installment for the series about how Varna and Jati aka ‘caste’ system was hugely damaging to Indians, it occurred to me that comparing how (and why) things turned out the way they did in India and China after 1945 would be an interesting idea. But why is that relevant? Well.. because most people who had acquaintance with the state of both countries in aftermath of WW2 would have put their money on India becoming the more prosperous and developed economy. However that has not been the case for last 40 years, and as things stand today- China had overtaken India on pretty much every single measure of human achievement (technological, military, geopolitical) by truly massive margins.

Sad white losers, like Steve Sailer, might want to believe that this has something do with ‘IQ’ or whatever bullshit he is into nowadays. I, however, see a very different cause for this massive divergence in destinies. In my opinion, it comes down to culture- specifically China being able to get rid of any part of its traditional culture and belief systems which hindered economic and social development. They learned all the right lessons from their ‘century of humiliation’. India, on the other hand, did not learn much (if anything) from being colonized by the British for almost 160 years. I don’t think they ever understood the concept of ‘humiliation’ given their continued eagerness to play the stupid sidekick for any western power who pretends to care.

Sadly, a large number of people in (and many from) India still live in almost total denial of this obvious fact. They keep telling themselves that all the technological and social progress they see in China is not real, or that it is somehow temporary or based on some fraud that will come crashing down any day. They have been repeating this bullshit to themselves and each other for over three decades now. Meanwhile in the real world, China has kept moving past India on almost every single front- even the ones they used to visibly lag as late as the early 1990s. And yet for some reason, most people in India still believe that prostrating them in front of the dying West is a path to prosperity and progress.

I am not suggesting that every action taken by the Chinese systems is sound or worth emulating. It would, however, be stupid to ignore the fact that whatever they are doing has worked infinitely better than whatever Indians are doing. I would go so far as to say that their system has, in aggregate, worked better than any other system we know. There are some in the West who want to believe that China stole jobs and technology from them, and you know what.. they are right. But we forget that the West stole entire continents and a lot of natural resources during age of colonization. The fact that China could modernize so quickly without overt colonization or stealing resources on a large-scale from other nations merely validates the superiority of their system.

The other series I want to write is about how modern environmentalism is a secular doomsday cult. Once again, I have written a few posts mentioning that topic in the past (link 1, link 2 and link 3), but none comes even remotely close to what I really think about that wretched belief system. I mean.. is it not obvious that a belief system based in apocalyptic thinking which requires its believers to constantly feel guilty and perform endless sacrifice and penance to obtain absolution from their alleged sins, headed by white-robed priests who never practice what they preach, is a sad secular reboot of Catholicism?

And how exactly are all those people heading various end-of-the-world cults different from white-robed people doing the same based on esoteric revealed “knowledge” aka computer simulations. Can you say, with a straight face, that running simulations engineered to produce whatever results you want and based on whatever inputs you choose, is science- let alone good science? FYI- I run computer simulations of far simpler, defined and understood physical systems for a living, and am well aware of their limitations even when the results are usually quite close to experimental observations. Anybody who tells you that we can model complex physical reality with very high or total certainty is lying through his or her teeth.

Anyway.. over the next 1-2 weeks, I plan to start series tackling both those issues. Is there a particular issue or sub-topic within those two which you would like me to address in more detail? Feel free to bring them up in the comments. It is getting late and I have to get some sleep now.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. Gp
    October 10, 2018 at 1:01 am

    While it is correct that most people here are in denial of rise of china and spend most time coming up with dismissive comments but I am starting to notice a change.
    Nowadays the dismissive comments about china have more of a ritualistic and self-gratifying element to it than genuine conviction. It seems that people are purposely lying to themselves rather than stating facts. This I think is due to internet.
    Also, the Indian political parties have a vested interest in dismissing Chinese development or painting it as fake or undesirable lest the people start demanding results similar to the ones produced by china

  2. October 10, 2018 at 4:47 am

    Talk about the flood of useless “findom/femdom” hookers on Twitter lol

    findom is really an even sadder version of marriage.

    • October 10, 2018 at 5:51 am

      Lol

    • P Ray
      October 11, 2018 at 2:12 am

      Findom in 2 sentences:
      If the man is dom, he needs to pay his female slaves.
      If the man is sub, he needs to pay his female master.

      Looks and sounds like women getting wins without any reciprocation!

      • October 11, 2018 at 9:02 am

        Guys PAY THE “SLAVES?” LOLOLOLOLOL wtf!! I just see those women on Twitter CONSTANTLY BITCHING about, well everything! They’re all trying to sell $30 videos that last for 10 minutes on some third party site, or they post their demands to the Twitter void for money.

        Then they rage at their 10k followers/potential customers for being “leeches” and “if everyone here gave me a dollar blah blah blah”. It’s like a train wreck led by the minds of these RETARDED women and it’s kind of sad but REALLY funny. “Give me money because I said so, or you aren’t a REAL man!”

  3. Gp
    October 10, 2018 at 8:48 am

    It would be fascinating to see how you compare India with italy and china at the same time. I suggest you release this series as a small e-book or compilation. It is needed in india

  4. P Ray
    October 10, 2018 at 8:49 am

    @Advocatus:
    Don’t burn out trying to spread the truth … remember that the war against psychopaths and stupidity is long and victories rare and short-lived.
    I appreciate the huge amount of work you’ve taken to keep the site running and the brain ticking over with real talk, the black pill is a lot more preferable to the blue pill.

    • Gp
      October 10, 2018 at 10:45 am

      What is the black pill?

      • P Ray
        October 11, 2018 at 2:10 am

        Blue pill: The world is a just place, and you can change things.
        Red pill: The world is an unjust place, and you can change things only with effort.
        Black pill: The world is an unjust place, and when you suffer a setback people will not only not care, but claim you deserve it. Comedy(the original meaning) ensues after that.

  5. botterd
    October 10, 2018 at 7:21 pm

    China stole our technology. How much sense would it make for them to try to figure everything out de novo? One of the main culture clashes we will see over the next 25 years is about the whole edifice of intellectual property, patents, brand rights, licenses, etc. People in the rest of the world (as well as the first world) naturally see all of this as the human heritage. Most of the great people who contributed were never able to “monetize” a single penny. How much to we owe the Romans or the native Indians, or the people that domesticated cattle or grain?

    Even though libertards act like the protection of private property is the most obvious self-evident concept, the reality is that the rules governing property have always been a matter of discussion and have been filled in very differently by different cultures in various eras.

    Such matters belong to the main sticking points of trade agreements. Even stickier is the fact that enforcement is increasingly impractical in the digital age (with zero cost copies, and 3D printing on the horizon). And almost none of the money goes back to the real creators. True even of pharma, where publicly invented universities and research institutions are far more innovative than the companies that exploit new pills. Universities are “open source”, and public peer-reviewed knowledge has proven a far better model than “monetized secrets”.

    “Stealing” culture is about the most flawed concept possible.

    • October 10, 2018 at 8:11 pm

      You: “China stole our technology.”

      Also you: “‘Stealing’ culture is about the most flawed concept possible.”

      ………????????

      It’s not flawed when those who stole it act in bad faith against those from whom they took it from, and then ACTIVELY suppress/attack those same people. “Stealing culture” is just the final bitch-slap cherry on top of a shit sandwich, and the most directly ironic. Comparing past traditions and various cultures to today wrt ip-rights is also…. dubious. You are assuming good faith from parties that not only CONSTANTLY behave to the contrary, but are also (at least for now) intricately intertwined in our daily lives.

      You aren’t wrong about future developments in tech causing probable future ip clashes, but it won’t be “cultural.” Populism has been priced in and is being guided IMO. Profit maximization serves no “culture” and it certainly doesn’t serve the average person. Soon you will learn what TRUE bad faith is when these companies start pulling their dicks out on all of us. It reads like you are FOR open source and so am I, but that list line was random and weird, maybe I misunderstood you idk…

  6. goat
    October 11, 2018 at 2:56 am

    India is a much more complex society than China and remember that “India” used to include Pakistan and Bangladesh. Furthermore, China went through a brutal communist modernization program, with tens of millions of deaths to teach people the lesson “do it Beijing’s way or else”. Same thing in Russia as part of their moderization program earlier in the 20th century. India has yet to go through something like that. However, global warming is going to hit the subcontinent harder than anywhere, mainly due to overpopulation relative to resources. There’ll be a worldwide famine at some point, with no global reserves to help India out, and some sort of pandemic in its wake. That’s when all the old traditions get tossed aside.

  7. P Ray
    October 11, 2018 at 6:43 am

    Maybe talk about how (as usual for the press) in Brazil they are “suddenly shocked” that a right-winger like Bolsonaro is winning?
    I put it down to the fact that remembering the 71 genders (all curated on Facebook) is both mentally exhausting and can easily be substituted with 2 words: “it” or “them”.

    Will we see (shaved) pussy hats in Brazil next? One can only hope.

  8. ChiNdia
    October 11, 2018 at 9:07 pm

    It appears the focus in China has been more progressive (modernization) and the focus in India has been more regressive (traditional).
    Saw a tv show that showed people in India doing religion things that hurt themselves (that was really all for nothing and did not make their lives better and it probably made their lives worse).
    There appears to be similarities in the Proto-Indo-European mythology (religion) and Proto-Indo-European Language as a possible common point of origin for many of the religions and languages of that region. India used to have some semi-interesting things with kundalini (serpent energy), Tantra and nudity and sex acts carved into stone (an early version of porn images) on the temples until that was suppressed.
    The leaders of China have been more secular and focused on economic topics and modernization. There are even fake cities in China (usually with no or few people living in them) that are nicer than many cities in the world.
    The leaders in India have been more about the traditional, suffering, repression, and not striving to improve the quality of life very much going into the future. China seems more interested in using technology and prospering.
    The history of especially the last 5000 years (especially in the Middle East areas) has been in many regions almost constant war. China seems to know this and China wrote “The Art of War.” Now in 2018 Trump started a economic trade war with China. What is the real reason for the U.S. “pivot to Asia?” Why is the U.S. really in the South China Sea? Is is because most of Trump’s clothes are made in China? It could almost be said that human history is war (a series of wars) and China seems to get it.
    I’m not religious, so I’m only writing these things below from a historical perspective.
    After starting around 3100 BC Egypt was taken over in the 500’s BC by the Persians, such as 525 BC by the son of Cyrus the Great (Cyrus in Judaism after the Babylonian Exile was called a messiah) Cambyses II (so wonder how many ancient Egyptian artifacts are in the Iran area). Then Alexander the Great founded Alexandria Egypt that became the Ptolemaic Kingdom led by Ptolemy I Soter “the Savior” who made-up the new deity Serapis and had the Greek Septuagint written by 132 BC with the Greek name Iesous for Yehoshua/Joshua son of Nun (serpent) and (Iesous became Iesus in Latin, and around the 1600’s AD after the letter J began in modern English became the name Jesus). Also, for the Hebrew word Messiah “anointed” was the Greek word Khristos/Christ for “anointed” that appears to be a loan word from the Egyptian KRST, and the Hebrew word Messiah “anointed” appears to also be based on Egyptian Messeh “to anoint with crocodile/Sobek fat/oil. Humorously some interpret messiah as “one who cures by caressing” “(caressing what?) and “putting oil upon it” and then there’s “the second coming.” Then around 30 BC Egypt became a Roman province, and then in 646 AD was the Muslim Conquest of Egypt. The Egyptians and the Incas had a lot of gold so that put a big target on them.
    There are many factors involved in war: having larger numbers, resources, supply chains, communications, weakening the enemy (in Hebrew Ha Satan meant the human enemy/adversary, and it was not what Christians much later made-up as “Satan,” and in Genesis it was not “Satan” as the original word used was nahash for serpent that would have been Enki “Lord of the Earth/Lord of Wisdom” at the Tree of Knowledge who in the mythological stories wanted to help humans , and the other voice in the story would have been Enlil or Anu/An (as the “sky father” similar to many later versions of Dyeus/Dyeus Phater), and having the enemy weaken themselves, dividing the enemy and having the enemy fight among themselves, having strong/better defenses, being prepared, element of surprise, knowing the surroundings better and using that to your advantage, luck (diseases, etc), allies, better strategies, having better/stronger/more powerful/more effective weapons, technological advantages, the desire to fight, the will to win, competitive advantages, etc.
    The environment (as in ones surroundings) tends to influence human behavior (people who live in the country tend to farm/religion/traditional), and people who live in cities tend to jobs/secular/modern.

  9. craken
    November 26, 2018 at 5:29 am

    India’s growth trajectory is more sustainable than China’s, at least up to India’s low natural limit (see Michael Pettis on this).

    Doesn’t masturbating using the manuscripts of losers get tiring after a while? Then again, people like you have nothing going for them in life, and the future doesn’t look especially bright for your type.

    Also, low IQ countries have hard ceilings on their potential GDP per capita. That said, India may be an exception to this hard ceiling rule due to its unique caste system. Some castes have reasonable IQ averages. Still, I wonder whether any caste have IQs as high as the Han? The Parsis may, but they’re not a caste and their numbers are too small to matter. I doubt any caste can match the Han, but good data is lacking on the Indian side.

    I used to find racist retards, who boldly pronounce their opinion on issues they neither have the background nor ability to comprehend, entertaining.

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