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Why Escorts are Always a Better Deal than Relationships or Marriage: 3

In the previous post of this series, I wrote about how my decision to keep using escorts while still looking for a meaningful relationship (in the 2001-2005 timespan) finally started to convince me that conventional relationships were a sad charade. The short version of that story is that I could easily find escorts who were 7s to 9s in addition to be great in bed.. or wherever we did it.. but still struggled to find 5s and 6s who were interested in having sex with me. This is not to say that I could not find anybody, because there were a few. The amount of effort necessary, willingness to tolerate bullshit, in addition to mediocre quality of sex- more due to their lack of looks than enthusiasm, did however make me cynical about normie relationships.

Frequent rejections by totally mediocre looking girls also gave me a serious case of burnout in the ‘relationship’ department. I mean.. why would a sane person who can easily afford to eat in nice restaurants want to keep on trying to be a decent cook at home? There are those among you who might say that “it would be have been different if you were taller, more muscular, white etc”. You know what.. that might very well be the case, but these are things I just cannot change. Also caring about the norms of a society which does not care about you is sad and retarded. It did not help that I never felt any strong emotional connection with any of these “unpaid” chicks.

Of course, it took me till 2009-2010 to definitively reach that point . But before going over the period between 2005 to 2010, let me tell you a bit more about what I did between late 2000 and 2005- specifically between 2003 and 2004. You will soon see why that was an important period. Have you ever wondered about the depths of sexual “depravity” that I have plumbed? See.. in the 2000 to mid-2002 period my use of escorts was somewhat limited for a couple of reasons. For one, I was getting reasonable quality sex from a few economically challenged chicks who received indirect compensation for their efforts.

During that approximately (first) two-year period I ended up banging 4-5 “amateurs” with some degree of regularity and somewhere between 15-18 escorts, though a few from the later category received multiple repeats. Some of you might say that is pretty good for any guy, and that would be correct. However, my sexual encounters with every single one of these chicks was a financial transaction- direct or indirect. And my lack of success with “unpaid” chicks during this period was not for lack of trying. I tried approaching tons of chicks, went on a few dates- but things were not going anywhere. There is something uniquely unpleasant about facing constant rejection from average to sub-average chicks.

As mentioned in the previous post of this series, I thought that moving to a bigger city for a job that paid even better than my old one would help- and it kinda did. Over a period of a little over two more years, I did have semi-frequent “unpaid” sex with three chicks, one of who was a low 7 (if that helps). I also had some luck in cougar bars, which is really like shooting fish in a barrel- but could not get myself to do it more than couple of times. Sounds good.. right? Now I will tell you why that was not the case, and it has to do with an important change in my pattern of escort use during the same period.

Before late 2002, my use of escorts was not especially high for a number of reasons- including my ability to pay for their services. But after starting at my new job towards the end of 2002, it was possible to spend way more on escorts- and spend I did. It got to the point where I averaged one new escort per week, not to mention repeats from some of them. Long story short, there was a period of 52 weeks where I went through 55 or 56 new escorts (probably around 80 new ones in total during that two-year period). Also, one threesome counts as two escorts. This period also partially overlapped at least two of those “unpaid” chicks. When I look back at this period, it does seem a bit excessive. Then again, doing it with attractive chicks who are good at it, is lots of fun.

I probably crossed the three digit threshold sometime in 2004, though by this point it really did not matter. It had all become an endless collage of beautiful women with great bodies getting banged by me or riding on top, blowing me and more, spanking them and so on.. the stuff dreams are made of and I enjoyed every moment of it. During that time (and since then) I have fucked everything from toned and hot black chicks, latinas of various admixtures, east-european chicks etc. This is also why mediocre “unpaid” chicks no longer cut it. But there was more..

At that time, I would still have traded my lifestyle for a long-term relationship with a 6 or 7 with whom I had a strong connection, beyond the physical. But as time passed, it became increasingly obvious that “unpaid” chicks were just as self-centered as the “paid” ones. They wanted sacrifices from my end but were completely unwilling to do so at their end. To put it another way, I simply could not see any of them being trustworthy and willing to reciprocate to the degree necessary to preclude my continued use of escorts. It was simply not worth taking that route. It did, however, take me till 2008-2009 to reach a point where I had made my mind, for good.

In the next part of this series, I will explain how a series of not-so-great experiences at finding “unpaid” sex (in the 2005-2009 period) made me finally give up that idea. Spoiler alert: this realization has to do with how even mediocre women, especially in the West, see themselves.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. October 21, 2018 at 11:42 am

    You just need to be more dominant and “alpha!” YOU JUST HATE WOMEN! *eyeroll*
    I agree with this post soooo much man. If the time spent with a woman (or really with anyone when the time is spent freely) isn’t mutually enjoyable then wtf is the point? I swear man, successful dating and “game” in the west for men, fits in one of two camps : SERFDOM paraded as power (which is retarded), or FERAL ANIMALISM (….not for me).

    The older I get, the less I want to have to deal with anyone, period quite frankly. At least you have money, I’m fucking broke after a life of being lied to about “hard work” LMFAO! I’ll get there though….

    Philly isn’t the best place to grow, especially if you are black. Then again.. most places in USA are that way- though for a northern city with a large black population- Philly is super segregated.

    • October 21, 2018 at 11:47 am

      Forgot to add: I am starting to think that women evolved to HATE men who don’t dominate them. They are masochists or something idk. It’s like it’s hardwired for them to see men like you killed (and enjoy it) while being fucked by the “warrior” who did it. I also think that it is MEN (mostly) who are objectified by this society, not women (and when they are, it’s by other women, ad agencies, or the few types of guys I mentioned above). There’s a million ways to not be a “real man” including casually disagreeing with women. Real men slap, I guess (not condoning that it just… seems to be that way)

      • P Ray
        October 21, 2018 at 3:08 pm

        Women hate it when “men attractive to other women” don’t dominate them.
        When women talk about equality, it is a shit test.
        They are perfectly capable of being seen as inferior towards the guy other women want.

        Also this:
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4371636/Women-like-seen-sex-objects-man-loves-them.html – You CAN eye me up… if you love me: Women like being seen as sex objects if the man is committed to her

        The confusion men have in the dating game, is because the women only find the top 10% attractive, and are stringing along the remaining 90% until someone better comes along.

        A good rule of thumb is this:
        If she’s arguing with you, or you have to perform mental gymnastics to rebut what she says … she isn’t attracted to you.

        The guy she wants says: “Shut the fuck up” … she thinks “He wants to admire me without words intruding on my beauty”.

        The guy she DOESN’T want says: “I want to know what you think” … she thinks “What a creep, if he doesn’t know what I want he’s not a real man”.

      • October 21, 2018 at 4:43 pm

        NOOOO AD Y U dox me bro (-_-)

      • October 21, 2018 at 4:44 pm

        It’s like it’s hardwired for them to see men like you killed (and enjoy it) while being fucked by the “warrior” who did it.

        That’s their biological nature – Throughout history, women have always attached themselves to the dominant male(s), especially if they have blood on their hands or swords.

        Thugtician said once “When one group of men conquer another group of men, what do the women left behind do? They start gyrating to the new top dog.”

      • Hmic
        November 2, 2018 at 5:39 pm

        They also hate the men who they like (for dominating them).
        A half of their mind hates the one who isn’t above her/dominates her, the other half hater the opposite type of man for being above her/dominating here.

        What do you do to not be hated and be liked?
        You play the changing role every moment calls for — you are an actor when she is in pride time, another when she is in be my king game, and so on. A tall pile of pretence.
        Or you exit the game.

    • October 21, 2018 at 5:10 pm

      “That’s their biological nature – ”

      Yeah well my nature and that of many other’s encourages certain things, however I can’t just act on that shit because it would be fucked up and punished by the State. I don’t know where you live or where you are from but since AD doxxed me like a boss, where I am from, dudes who look like me (and you), who follow their nature as blindly as most women die or go to jail.

      Actually, you mentioned that here about a year ago. Here is the link.. https://dissention.wordpress.com/2017/09/24/usa-lacks-realistic-strategy-towards-dprks-nuclear-icbm-program-1/#comment-54404

      What you do probably works for you because of where you live/ where you are from. I pull that “bad-boy” crap I gonna get fucked, even if I win, I LOSE. PLUS I just have ZERO interest in it. Actually this whole city is geared towards that setup from cradle to grave for guys, it’s fucked up. You actually mentioned this in your comment below: jumping through hoops. Jumping only disinterests me with women (it has to be done with work but, at least that’s $ and there are ways OUT of employment once $ is saved/ skills are acquired and what not), but makes my fucking blood boil AND it just proves how much a joke life is. I can’t take but so much of that shit honestly. Call me weak but, it puts me in a bad place so: pass, at least for the foreseeable future.

      And that is the real problem, life (especially in USA and West) is now a sad joke.

      • October 21, 2018 at 5:27 pm

        Shit I actually forgot about that, I raged out hard at that Giovanni moron….. eh meh. I don’t really care that much LOL.

        In any case, Philly has over half a million black people- and this number does not include areas adjoining the city proper.

      • October 21, 2018 at 7:14 pm

        The way the status quo is going, EVERYBODY will end up in jail at some point in their lives. Not prison, but jail. I personally don’t care, as long as it isn’t too long. I do agree that only certain people can get away with acting on their most natural impulses, but you know what? Violence is a very necessary part of manhood. If black people were as violent as white America thinks we are, there wouldn’t have been no slavery. And even now, things probably would be better off for us!

      • October 21, 2018 at 9:08 pm

        “The way the status quo is going, EVERYBODY will end up in jail at some point in their lives. Not prison, but jail. I personally don’t care, as long as it isn’t too long.”

        I mean…. I personally don’t want to go to either LOL. Fuck that.

        “Violence is a very necessary part of manhood.”

        Traditionally and evolutionarily, yeah that’s true but things change. A necessary part of manhood IMO is also providing for a family and being respected by the community around you and GOOD LUCK with that as a man in America today ESPECIALLY as a black man!

        Traditional “Manhood” in America is basically over dude. It’s been a dead horse for quite a while. No matter how much individualism one embraces, we ALL evolved to try be a valued part of a group, and to work with other, similar humans. Everything about the west is completely antithetical to that (AD CONSTANTLY talks about that, and its effects).

        I guess my main point is that really all historically traditional definitions of normal behavior (what “normally” is a man, what “normally” is civil, what “normally” is a woman etc etc), pretty much died with the highly atomized, sociopathic, nuclear capable nation-state, and it’s just been a slooooow death. This death is recently hyper driven by tech which allows people like all of us to communicate this shit, which flies in the face of all the advertising echo-chambering which is meant to keep us “under control.” It also makes it easier to see how full of shit everyone is, and how much of a JOKE all of this is.

        The whole “manhood = violence” thing is an artifact of a dead age that (ESPECIALLY as a black guy) will pretty much only work against you, in almost every conceivable way, unless you are rich and powerful. People like that Bin Salman guy get to be violent, and marines get to play GI Joe on poor brown people overseas (and those marines/ armed forces in general are POOR and getting shot at FOR the enriching of already rich). It’s all a fucking joke man.

  2. October 21, 2018 at 4:37 pm


    I remember you saying that a guy in his 20s-40s is least likely to engage in escorts. That’s only true if you are one of the few 20-25% of the male population women DO find attractive (I am part of that percentage – not trying to rub it in). But a lot of guys who ARE in the game aren’t getting what they truly want, they are just happy to be in the game and are happy to say they are getting more than others (quantity instead of quality). I thought of this earlier today when I was at my gym – Unless you are a rapper, athlete, entertainer or a famous “street dude”, you can’t pick and choose who you want when you are in your 20s and 30s; you just take whatever you get. My stepfather told me the same thing about jobs – you can’t pick and choose who hires you and who doesn’t. And if you want to get the attention of certain people, you have to jump thru many hoops and pretend to be something you aren’t. Black men in the USA already have that dilemma to face and most just “go along to get along”.

    But more guys in their 20s and 40s are going abroad either because they are incels with no “game”, or because they strongly dislike American women. Some guys are just desperate as hell, or they are traditional minded idiots who only want to hold some desperate woman hostage, because some white CONservative jackass says “a woman’s place is in the home” – i.e. “serfdom” (I know one dumb POS “incel” who went overseas to find a wife who has hepatitis and TB, but chastises black women as if they are the “scum of the earth”. It’s not as if he’s spending $2-3K every 2-3 months going to the same country to lay different chicks, but to see the same ugly wife who looks like Ozzy Osbourne). What I truly hate is how some black self-hating negros pays for foreign women who engages in the same sexuality they condemn black women for. I avoid those weak uncle toms (if not for overseas travel, those guys would probably turn gay).

    I mean.. why would a sane person who can easily afford to eat in nice restaurants want to keep on trying to be a decent cook at home?

    I enjoy cooking at home as I can cook and season my shit the way I like it and can actually save money, and don’t have to worry about tipping motherfuckers. LOL

    As for ME, I just like “bad bitches” everywhere, regardless of geographical location. I have no problems attracting or dealing with western women, but I have zero tolerance for any female acting “flaky” because she claims she’s either scared or “doesn’t know what she really wants” at the time. While I’d rather deal with females who like me because the natural vibe is there, the quality sometimes isn’t the best, as it pertains to sex appeal. And unlike some guys, I happen to like MILFs and Cougars. If I’m in the mood for younger females, I’ll go abroad (I dislike young twenty-somethings in the west for their immaturity and head games).

    As for “feral animalism”, I have no qualms with that. Only few men are psychologically masculine enough to do what they like and say “fuck society”. The “game” community (as well as “the negro manosphere”), however, is full of stupid fucks who talk about how cool it is to fuck multiple women, but simultaneously bitch about the loss of traditional “nuclear families”, interracial dating (though some of them are married to white women) and bitch about single mothers, but they believe men who date single mothers and be fathers to kids who aren’t theirs are “alpha”.

    • October 21, 2018 at 4:41 pm

      CORRECTION: but they believe men who date single mothers and become fathers to kids who aren’t theirs are NOT “alpha”.

    • October 21, 2018 at 6:44 pm

      “As for “feral animalism”, I have no qualms with that. Only few men are psychologically masculine enough to do what they like and say “fuck society”.”

      Man no offense but, u are basically saying, “you aren’t a real man unless you do what I say/ live how I live.” Pretty sure everyone who reads this blog has issues with the way society functions and is doing what they can to win the way they see fit. That shaming shit is what women do and when I said feral animalism I wasn’t talking about you or whatever you are doing. The “bad boy” CHARACTER is different from what I am talking about and ALL OF THAT is comparative anyway (it’s a race the bottom. One is only as much of a “bad boy” as the people around him, it’s like a game of chicken).

      If you lived around actual feral people you would know what I am talking about (and this isn’t me shitting on black people either, because ANYONE of any group can become that. That whole topic is complicated but I am talking about people with NOTHING to lose and no hope. ANYONE can turn into that and you aren’t in that boat from what you have said so far)

      • October 21, 2018 at 6:51 pm

        That’s not what I’m saying and this really isn’t shaming language. AD said the same thing in another topic he wrote about why there’s so much hate for black women. And it’s true. Some dudes can’t handle it, even though the system is so rigged. But some guys hate on them because they feel easily emasculated.

        If we’re talking about feral animalistic people as it pertains to people who have nothing to lose, we can talk about impoverished or imprisoned people. Can you blame them? If you have nothing to lose, you’re going to do whatever comes to mind. It’s not like you’d be rewarded for your compliance anyway.

      • October 21, 2018 at 6:58 pm

        No I am not blaming them at all its a rough situation, I am just clarifying what I meant with that animalism phrase. It’s really NOT their fault HOWEVER I see other people who aren’t in that boat promoting that stuff (or that way of living) as “real men” and shitting on people who AREN’T on that, and it’s not just black women. An example would be Bill Maher talking shit on Wayne Brady for not being a “real” black man.

        That shit irritates me. I thought that was what you were doing. I hear people online trash black women which is lame, but I just think women PERIOD tend to egg on dudes going to war with each other, and playing the Cleopatra role, which is really the core of what I am getting at in general. I just think that shit is retarded beyond a certain point.

  3. Shiningtime
    October 21, 2018 at 5:35 pm

    I don’t subscribe to the overall negativity that is so prevalent in the mgtow community. Women are what they’ve always been. They will take the best mate they can reasonably lock down.

    Our expectations have been warped by the media and PUA propaganda. Majority of guys have less than FIVE sex partners their entire lives. That’s the reality. If you have more than 15 girls, you’re in the 10% of men.

    Most guys have no game whatsoever. They meet their mate through a friend or social circle. They date, are reasonably compatible and they settle down. That’s the reality. So yes, grinding through girls trying to find a mate is hard work, which is why so many guys cash out at the first decent female they can lock down.

    Side note: since the demise of BP, it’s become harder to find decent talent.

    • October 21, 2018 at 6:58 pm

      Totally agree. A lot of “red pill” guys are really blue pill traditional minded morons clinging onto a fairy tale that no longer exists, or one they want to push onto everyone else.

      • October 22, 2018 at 11:52 am

        I bet 80% of guys meet their bitch through a friend, a friend of a friend, or their workplace/college. They check her out, take her for a test drive and they settle as long as she’s reasonably attractive (pretty enough so she’s not an embarrassment when they walk hand in hand in public). Why? Because they have no balls.

        True love exists but it is super rare. Paul Newman had it. He and Joanne were married for 50 years and they were loyal and faithful. But that shit only happens for 1 out of 10 million couples.

        Red Pill guys are bunch of chumps who think everyone can live a Romeo and Juliet romance. Not even Romeo and Juliet got what they wanted. Remember the ending? They kill themselves LOL

      • P Ray
        October 22, 2018 at 1:58 pm

        True love exists but it is super rare. Paul Newman had it. He and Joanne were married for 50 years and they were loyal and faithful. But that shit only happens for 1 out of 10 million couples.
        You forgot to mention he was already married at the time he met Joanne, so he passed the “attractiveness validation” test. Joanne was his second wife.

        It’s amazing how many guys can get other relationships WHEN THEY’RE ALREADY IN ONE

      • October 23, 2018 at 9:01 am

        @tomjones – Yes, most guys do find their “soulmates” via friends, family hookups, schools and churches. And they just accept it because they do NOT have no game or sexual chemistry. They also have COnservative beliefs that leads to entitlement issues. Some of these “red pill” guys are bitter misogynists who not only have a “Romeo and Juliet” fantasy, but they also believe in arranged marriage and divorced being outlawed, since that’s the only way lame SOBs like that could ever get some.

        I’m unsure if you’re familiar with “the negro manosphere”, but just like the white manosphere, it’s a very embarassing and contradictory place (the only guys on the negro manosphere I like are ARC, Angryman and Rom Wills, a reformed player). Anyway, there was a black clown named Mumia Obsidian Ali. He’s almost 50 and he still bitches about his prom issues. That particular jackass never got any sex in high school and his own mother and sister told him the women he wanted were “out of his league”. His mom and sis hooks him up with three average looking females to take to prom, he goes off on his mom and sister and stopped speaking to them for years. Every YouTube video that clown does is the same old shit; whining about his 30+ year old prom issues, women choosing “thugs and bad boys” and it’s real disgusting. If life is already great to you, you have no business listening to this shit.

        As AD said once, if you already have what it takes to make panties drop, you have no business listening to RooshV and all the other “game” or “PUA” idiots who contradict themselves, saying it’s cool to fuck hotties, but then whine about the loss of “traditional values”.

    • Jay Fink
      October 25, 2018 at 11:19 pm

      What they consider “best” has changed over the years and the proof is that over 50% of births are now out of wedlock. There has been a shift towards women selecting more dominant, primitive men. Many red pill types say it’s biological but I say it’s more cultural.

  4. NoMannAct
    October 22, 2018 at 7:13 pm

    This is a topic I have been interested in and it has changed my perception too. I agree that escorts are better than LTR’s (Long Term Relationships) and marriage. I am in favor of escorts.
    I never want to live with a woman, and most guys do, and many of them don’t know about common law marriage after living together for years. Part of what changed my perception about society is that it would seem that the majority of guys would want to “get laid often” and should therefore be in favor of anything involving sex such as porn and especially be in favor of “prostitution/sex workers/escorts/etc” to “get laid more often,” but it appears that is not the case, and from many comments that I have seen online I have been shocked by the amount of guys who are against porn, against fapping, and who are against “prostitution/sex workers/escorts/etc.” If the majority of guys were in favor of escorts, then that could lead to some societal change, but instead the majority of guys being against escorts/etc has reinforced the current sex-negative society due to their own insecurities/ego to feel superior to prostitutes instead of just being in favor of escorts to get laid more/and to justify their own self-limited beliefs to themselves about escorts being beneath them versus just another way to get laid more consistently.
    Some in Game (before it was coopted and overran by white nationalists right wing patriarchy politics guys) would talk about escaping the matrix, but then most of those guys (who also tend to be oddly against porn/fap/escorts) started oddly promoting three of the biggest pillars (or programming code) of the matrix that are politics/religion/marriage. Religion and government use marriage to control people. Most people who get married buy houses and pay higher property taxes. There is a lot of marriage propaganda on tv as about every other commercial is about marriage/family to buy those products from those companies.
    From around the 3000’s BC marriage was made-up in Sumeria (Iraq) as a non-religious civil contract (men bought a wife), and until around the 1700’s AD most marriages were arranged (paid for with a dowry). “Me (mythology)” were the Sumerian decrees of civilization (that’s considered one of the earliest known civilizations) and they were not against prostitutes/escorts (24. Sexual Intercourse, 25. Prostitution). In ancient Greece upper class prostitution was accepted. In Rome (where Christianity/PAULanity was officially made-up) prostitution (including sex with prostitutes before marriage) was accepted and basically expected). Usually the most likely reality after battles wasn’t that the victorious warriors made the women horny for the conquering warriors (probably in many cases the women despised them), it was that the women were “taken” by the warriors (and that probably in many instances was the only time those warriors ever “got some”). It’s more of a myth that there were super-masculine “Alpha males” running around who “had Game” and were constantly banging way back then, as even over 10,000 years ago most groups were usually still tribal. It was the tribal leader/king/very wealthy who were able to get laid the most (and even then as there was no effective contraception it probably wasn’t a lot).
    It appears that prostitution used to be legal in the U.S. until the Mann Act of 1910 (and he was a patriarchy type guy who said women belong in the home, and he was against prostitution that was called “white slavery” that appears really was a racial cover for going after interracial dating). Even now in 2018 there is a huge amount of former Game guys who are oddly promoting religion/marriage/traditional gender roles/patriarchy. Marriage and patriarchy are not masculine. Patriarchy (Father rules) is really PROVIDERarchy. These patriarchy guys promote patriarchy traditional gender roles (woman cooks, cleans, raises children), but what “patriarchy” really does is makes guys a wage-slave husband father provider (that is the opposite of what Game was about) and it is just a return to or a re-branding of Right Wing religious marriage propaganda that is like a deceptive brainwashing psy-ops trick to get more guys promoting marriage. I never fell for the patriarchy trap that leads to the prison of marriage. Prostitutes/escorts is not being a provider as it’s not providing for one woman in marriage, as it is only a business transaction of around a few hundred dollars or so to multiple women here and there over years. I don’t even like having anyone cook or clean for me (I can do those things myself), and I have no intentions to have children. I am a man and I don’t want “traditional gender roles” (I don’t want to be a beta husband father provider). Marriage is not a utopia. Marriage is a dystopia.
    If government/religion/sex-negative society are against your natural human bodily functions, then XYZ that government/society. If a “law” says it is illegal to sell food and it is illegal to buy food, or it is legal to sell food but it is illegal to buy food, then that is illogical and is against your rights as a living human person. In areas where prostitution is not so-called legal that elevates the price (if the market value of a bottled water should be only $1, but if bottled water is illegal that drives up the price to over $100). There is not freedom of speech where people cannot say two of the most popular words (a word with the letters xes and money). It’s safer to not go to their hotel room. It is safer to go to your room. Once people get to know each other better on a regular basis they can have more detailed conversations. After very painful financial struggles for years, there is no way that I would ever get married and lose over half of financial assets (an over 70% chance of losing over 50% of what you have is a totally stupid financial decision), therefore I am never getting married. Marriage is a bad deal.

    • October 23, 2018 at 9:40 am

      Everything you just is spot on (even though there’s it seems it’s written as one big-ass paragraph – LOL). The only benefit for marriage and patriarchy is for the sake of children – that is, until they become grown enough to do whatever the hell they choose. And after that, then what? A lot of men are stupid enough to base their self-worth on that and feel they’d be rewarded for it. What reward? And can you enjoy it when your best years are gone and faded? Is it even something you want? Personally, IDGAF about “traditional gender roles” and all this CONservative jive about “women and children are to be seen, not heard”. Women, like blacks, did not have rights and were seen as property. But then the 1960s happened. That is what gave us this present state and honestly, it’s karma. What goes around comes around!

      I don’t care how fine a woman is, I truly don’t want to be around one for no more than 5-7 days as I don’t believe in “outwearing of welcome”. Like you, I certainly have no interest in holding a woman hostage, or having someone cook and clean for me. That stopped when I was 15 and I can cook and clean to my own personal standards. Marriage and children? No.

      Like I’ve said, I prefer females who holds a mutual interest/chemistry/vibe rather than paid sex. BUT… paid sex IS a superior option to LTRs and the “nuclear family” package deal. But of course, it probably shouldn’t be said in the general public. Not so much for the social stigma, but these “happy go lucky” advocates for marriage/patriarchy/nation building love to attack everyone else who don’t buy into their shitty “Disney Myths”. They just want to recruit more people to be miserable just like them.

      • P Ray
        July 28, 2019 at 3:43 am

        Just a reminder that some women you may have thought were “African-American” may actually have been “Asian women using fakeup to look African-American so that they wouldn’t face the ordeal of having to speak to Asian men” … regardless, the reality is most women that are spreading legs wantonly, had a lot of practice when younger.

        It’s fun when much later these women talk about their actions as “protecting myself from the patriarchy” … while wanting sex from a fuccboi (or however they spell it).

  5. LeeDuva
    October 24, 2018 at 12:40 am

    A.D you might want to read this.

    I saw it on twitter yesterday..

  6. Martin
    October 24, 2018 at 5:33 am


    First, I have a question to Advocatus:
    As far as I know, you are based in Canada, right? If yes, how did the
    new prositution law (Nordic model) affect you?

    Second, I want to tell my (short) story:

    I have adopted a very similar lifestyle, after reaching basically the same conclusions.

    I’m based in Austria, and prostitution here is legal.
    For 150€/hour, you can get good service (including bareback blowjob, french kissing, cum multiple times)
    from above average looking women (7+).
    There are also sauna clubs, with lot of hot (8+) women walking around naked, and service
    is 60€/30 minutes.
    And a cheap flight to Amsterdam/Germany is only 100-150€ (two-ways)

    For me it was actually a quite natural progression.
    I’m very introverted, so getting women the normal way was always an uphill battle for me.
    (especially women I actually find attractive.. I only find maybe 10-20% of women attractive)
    But the advantage is (I guess) that I don’t have much need for companionship, I acutally prefer
    being alone most of the time.

    My first experience with a pro was amazing, she was a persian 8+ (looking quite similar to Beyonce)
    and service was perfect.
    After that it was just impossible to stop.

    I had a few LTRs, and some drunken ONS, but it was never a very satisfying experience.
    Problem is, after a few months of having sex with the same girl, I just lose all interest
    in her. I wonder how some guys do it, especially when their wifes hit the wall super hard…
    (it seems quite to be “normal” for sex to die down in a LTR anyways… most escort
    customers are married men)

    I also don’t want children, that would be the only reason in favor of a LTR.

    Making enough money for 1-2 session per week also made the choice for this lifestyle
    quite easy.
    My sex drive is also quite low, so 1-2x per week is more than enough to satisfy me completely

    TLDR: I you want quality sex with attractive women, paying for it is the most efficient method
    to get it. Doesn’t work if you also want children, but that is probably a bad idea anyways.

  7. Dan
    October 25, 2018 at 10:17 am

    Im grateful there are more men who think just like I do! great blog btw just found it!

  8. Dan
    October 25, 2018 at 10:19 am

    But my problem is this: when I have sex with escort, she is usually not that much involved, some of them are but its a randomizer game.. I tend to see that if I pay the same girl more, and stay longer, she is more engaged (usually)… if I visit the same girl again but pay less or stay shorter – she is less engaged (or, she doesn’t pretend she is engaged that much haha ) And of course, you can sense she is just thinking about what to eat for dinner tomorrow etc lol… thats the biggest thing… women always say how sex involves them emotionally how it is such a deep experience yet they can shut themselves off during it just like that. Or fake engagement… ideal weapon of control. Men can’t do that. No arousal = no erection.

    • P Ray
      October 25, 2018 at 11:15 am

      women always say how sex involves them emotionally how it is such a deep experience yet they can shut themselves off during it just like that. Or fake engagement… ideal weapon of control.
      You can’t buy GENUINE attraction … but on the flip side, if you’ve paid for poking, SHE can’t complain.

      That’s why women hate guys who ask them what she did for the fella she was really attracted to. A sexless marriage is simply … the woman WANTED a man to pay for her lifestyle, ideally a guy she HATED or has ZERO feelings for, so she can use the excuse “I’m just not really a sexual person, okay? Shit”

      Image for reference:

      • Dan
        October 25, 2018 at 12:30 pm

        Yup! And my point is that if they can be disengaged with a guy who paid for it and is good looking, knows how to do it etc (women are sexual beings, often more than men, right?) when she can have safe sex in a controlled environment – then she can fake engagement when fucking her bf/hubby just to get what she wants… I often theorize whether women deliberately fake their responses to various polls that are being ruled out (with questions like ”how faithful you are” etc) – herd mentality.

        https://youtu.be/aBY2WVMsGcE?t=9 good channel, I recommend it to everyone. Also, Alex on Life is pure gold. Albeit they already started to censor him https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC424BtaOL-vlmUFIXEASwyQ/videos

      • P Ray
        October 25, 2018 at 7:28 pm

        Women are such sexual beings that they have rape fantasies.

        Haven’t heard of a guy having a rape fantasy.

        But women are the ones successfully selling the idea they want respectful men who listen to their opinions, lel.

        When the reality is they want the respectful man to pay for her relationship with Chad Thundercock … a woman in a relationship with a Chad always has a few men around her to provide the emotional support that Chad won’t … which is why in the relationship where the woman “makes Chad her world”, it quickly descends into the rightful violence because Chad doesn’t want her cramping his style.

        Men should stay away from women with Chad boyfriends, to accelerate the demise of those relationships. Don’t subsidise women or Chads with your emotional “bank account”, have them face their flawed relationship without any protection.

      • Hmic
        November 2, 2018 at 5:52 pm


  9. Neo
    October 25, 2018 at 1:14 pm

    “I wonder how some guys do it, especially when their wifes hit the wall super hard…”

    It’s not that hard to understand. You either put up with that cold fish you stuck yourself with, or you expect to live in a box under a bridge while she fucks her lawyer like the slut you wanted to pay off his fees.

    “…when I have sex with escort, she is usually not that much involved…”

    It’s not that different with wives. You can’t send her home afterwards and never hire her again like you can an escort. So if an escort doesn’t satisfy you, replace her with someone else until you find one that does. It’s much cheaper than a divorce!

    “…A sexless marriage is simply … the woman WANTED a man to pay for her lifestyle…”

    That is the mistake I made. She grew up poor and saw good earning potential in me (since realized), so she fucked me into marrying her. The day we got back from the honeymoon, the sex got shut off.

    • P Ray
      October 25, 2018 at 7:25 pm

      That is the mistake I made. She grew up poor and saw good earning potential in me (since realized), so she fucked me into marrying her. The day we got back from the honeymoon, the sex got shut off.

      You needed to have known about the laws of your country, if she was a citizen it’s fairly certain you’d get drilled for all your money … if she’s not a citizen but the country is a feminist shithole, they’d side with her too.

      I’m lucky that Brexit will make my entitlement to stay in the UK, very much more valuable but especially to those women of nationalities that will be shut out by that legislation PLUS
      where I’m from a foreign woman needs the signed agreement of their spouse to continue staying in their country.

      Be very wary about relationships where you and her are locals. Those are certainly the most dangerous.

      • Neo
        October 26, 2018 at 12:07 am

        “…it’s fairly certain you’d get drilled for all your money…”

        She’s a typical American woman. I make it and she takes it.

        My own cousin is in the process of draining her ex for all she can get, and there are no kids or common property. It is literally payback for not submitting to her obvious superiority. /s

      • P Ray
        October 27, 2018 at 8:45 am

        You have no escape since you are under IMBRA. Better use your white privilege to escape to a country that is aware that men build and create things and is willing to pay you an expat salary.
        It also helps if you make friends with the local guys to keep the peace. Don’t be the kind of expat where people get the sense they’re only overseas just to take take take from the local population.

    • Dan
      October 26, 2018 at 12:40 am

      “…when I have sex with escort, she is usually not that much involved…”

      “It’s not that different with wives”

      this really struck me. Because – exactly – what would prevent disengaged girlfriend or a wife to pick breadcrumbs from the carpet when having sex on the floor while thinking about what to eat for the dinner tomorrow or how to use this sex for her own advantage? Nothing.

      It’s really sad. Women can have this sort of sex, men not really – no erection = no arousal.
      Of course, when she is genuinely attracted to you, it’s cool BUT… most of ”normal” girls are poor in bed, or have plenty of blockages (”oh thats gross, dont touch me there, slow down, youre doing it wrong, blablablablbal”)

      • Neo
        November 4, 2018 at 7:36 am

        On those rare occasions when my wife was being honest (usually in the middle of berating me for failing to meet her expectations about something), she once told me that she goes over shopping lists, and goes over her mental lists of which of her friends she needs to call, and so many other topics which have nothing to do with sex. Had I been more experienced regarding sex when I first met her, I’d have known that anyone who needs all night for foreplay is a lousy lay and I should move on. I wasn’t, I didn’t, and now I’m stuck with a starfish with no sex drive. I should have left her long ago when I had nothing. Now she’d take everything.

      • hoipolloi
        November 4, 2018 at 8:23 am

        I can attest to what has been said by Dan and neo from my own experience. The tendency of picking up bread crumbs on the carpet during hot sex thing should be well publicized among men and women to create awareness of the banality of it and to find a resolution to the problem.

  10. Dan
    October 26, 2018 at 12:42 am

    ”Women are such sexual beings that they have rape fantasies.”

    ”Haven’t heard of a guy having a rape fantasy.”

    you meant as in being raped? Or to rape? I think plenty of men have rape fantasies when they force themselves onto a woman..

    • P Ray
      October 26, 2018 at 4:40 am

      you meant as in being raped?
      That’s the one.

      Remember that Dan Bilzerian, Travers Beynon, so so so many rock bands …
      have no background in getting hit with rape accusations eventhough their groupies are drunk or underage …

      but people like Harvey Weinstein are serial rapists, just LOL. It’s all about the looks.

      Just waiting to see that Rampant Rectal Ravager Ronaldo’s Redolent Rigid Rupturing Rod Refutes Rape Remarks.

    • P Ray
      October 26, 2018 at 4:46 am

      Also, rape fantasy is a direct example of misandry (hatred of men):
      1. Man wants to rape someone = “you sick fuck, you should be in jail”

      2. Woman wants to rape someone = “she’s just exercising her right to fun, men are so uptight”

      Please don’t excuse women who rape, they are a big blind spot in the justice system, kind of like how white people from overseas who violate their visa conditions in the USA, the Immigration services don’t want to thoroughly investigate and prosecute them … because “they are our people”.

  11. October 29, 2018 at 8:37 am

    “I also had some luck in cougar bars, which is really like shooting fish in a barrel- but could not get myself to do it more than couple of times.”

    I have a good friend with a life story that mimics AD’s life story. He is an escort-only guy. I’ve tried escorts 3 or 4 times and I had a decent experience every time. I don’t have a 14-inch dick, I don’t have Warren Buffett money, I’m not famous, I’m not powerful but I’m reasonably attractive to women despite starting out as a timid teenager.

    I think I project I-don’t-give-a-fuck attitude. I’ve never had a fear of talking to woman. One thing leads to another or one drink leads to another and…boom, I’m banging her doggystyle in her crappy apartment. That’s why I didn’t need escorts so far. I’ve always been good at sinking my teeth into post-college (25 to 32) chicks and young MILFs.

    I never had any luck with the really young ones (18 to 22).

    In a few years, I’ll probably join my friend and AD and become an escort-only guy like them. Not because my luck will run out. But because I never want to live with a woman. And I’m tired of playing the Game.

    You will get there.. LOL

  1. November 4, 2018 at 9:31 am

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