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Democratic Party Obsession with ‘Gun Control’ will Cost Them in 2020

Some of you might remember that just over a year ago, I wrote a post about why establishment democrats seem to obsessed with “gun control”. And yes.. there is a reason I put that term in quotation marks because, let us be honest about it, they do want to ban all guns and criminalize civilians who owned them. In case you are wondering how that could happen, let me direct you to how SWAT teams became an integral part of the “law enforcement” in USA or how petty criminals and retards are now charged under the hilariously-named PATRIOT act. My point is that history definitely shows us that powers given to large and unaccountable institutions (public or private) will always be abused, regardless of under which socio-economic paradigm they claim to operate.

It has long been my stated belief that the seemingly excessive number of deaths attributed to guns in USA are really due to the misery and hopelessness caused by living in a decaying, dying and imploding society- not unlike the deaths due to opioid overdoses and alcoholism. Also, most (almost 75%) deaths due to guns are suicides. If you add up them up, somewhere between 100-150 thousand people In USA kill themselves each year due to the high and endemic levels of despair and hopelessness caused by late capitalism aka neoliberalism. Did I mention that we have seen something similar happen in Russia after the collapse of USSR in 1991. Then again, there is something darkly funny about USA following in the footsteps of USSR.

But what does any of this have to with establishment democrats likely losing the 2020 election due to their obsession with “gun control”? Doesn’t having a president as unpopular and pathetic as Trump virtually guarantee a democratic party victory in 2020? Isn’t the possibility of having another 4-year dumpster fire sufficient to motivate democratic voters. Well.. let us have a look at results from the just-concluded 2018 elections. While the democratic party did win a majority in the house, a few governorships and about 300 seats in state legislatures- it has still not recouped the losses suffered during eight years of Obama. In other words, the low popularity of that atrocious orange moron did not translate into a massive pro-democratic party wave.

But why not? Surely, all that wall-to-wall coverage by corporate media of the latest bad decision made by the white house or talking heads communally masturbating over the most recent faux-pas by Trump must have changed some minds.. right? Who in their right minds would say that the Trump presidency is anything but a sad, but highly entertaining, dumpster fire? Why did all that talk about “Mueller”, “Russia”, “Putin” etc have so little effect on the electoral results? As it turns out, I have a theory to explain why the absolutely atrocious performance of Trump had a far smaller effect on the electoral results than many establishment democrats had hoped. And guess what, it connects very well with the subject of this post.

As I intimated in a previous paragraph, the biggest problems facing most people in USA have nothing to do with Trump, Russia, Putin or any other bullshit concocted by establishment types. Instead they are all linked to living in a system caught in a terminal death spiral. Sure.. things have never been better for the top 1% and are still acceptable for next 9%, but they suck for everyone else. Between the ludicrous cost of post-secondary education, ever-increasing levels of non-dischargeable student debt, rapidly increasing cost of what passes for “health care”, lack of stable and well-paying jobs, increasingly unaffordable housing- most people are fixated on issues which matter to them rather than what these so-called “public intellectuals” circle-jerk around.

You might think that any real opposition party in a functional democracy would take advantage of such a situation and make viable promises to fix these problems and thus get swept into power at the next election. As it turns out, there are two problems with that assumption. You see.. the democratic party is not a real opposition party and USA is not a functional democracy. Instead, the establishment wings of both political parties are part of the same party- one which owes it allegiance to the very wealthy and corporations. Both pretend to be opposed to each other so that they can maintain the illusion of a functional democracy- not unlike what one sees within professional wresting leagues. It is all political Kayfabe.

Let me remind you that establishment democrats have always colluded with their republican counterparts to push through legislation and rules which benefited the wealthy and corporations, but hurt everyone else. They colluded with republicans to push every “free-trade” agreement and treaty you can think of. They colluded with them to pass laws which enabled mass incarceration and the overt militarization of police in USA. They colluded with them to deregulate financial institutions and screw over common people. They colluded with them to make student debt non-dischargeable in bankruptcy. They never saw a military project too expensive to approve. In short, establishment democrats are basically republicans with better stylists and speechwriters.

But what does any of this have to with the issue of “gun control” and its adverse effect on electoral prospects of democratic party in 2020? Well.. it comes down to the only two real policy differences between the two political parties. In case you are wondering, access to abortion and gun rights are the only major differences between the two parties. As far as access to abortion is concerned, the democratic party position is going to win out in the future- largely because even republican voters below 40 are majority pro-choice. Gun control, on the other hand, is a different kettle of fish. While that policy had decent amount of public support during the late 1980s and early 1990s, the situation has changed a lot since then.

Many states have made it easier to buy or carry guns since the early 2000s, and this change has not resulted in an increased rate of gun-related crime. In fact, by many measures, rates of violent crime are significantly lower than in the late 1980s and early 1990s. More importantly, the trust of average people in american institutions (public and private) has declined considerably and irreversibly since the early 1990s. To make a long story short, all those bullshit “common sense gun control” laws have far less support in non-coastal states than even thirty years ago. This has however not stopped the democratic party establishment from trying to use every instance of some person shooting up random people to push for more “gun control” laws.

But.. some of you might say.. how is this any of this relevant to the 2020 election season? Here is why.. See, establishment democrats have refused to learn anything from their defeat in 2016, 2014 or 2010 etc. Any why would they? After all, they get paid the same by their rich backers irrespective of whether they win elections or not. It is all political Kayfabe. Anyway, the central rule of Kayfabe is that both parties must keep acting as if the alleged rivalries are “real” and “meaningful”. Also, neither party wants to bite the hands that feed them. Consequently, it is extremely unlikely that democrats will advance (let alone pass) any legislation which actually helps the average person. In any case, the average establishment democrat and republican legislator is far too removed from average people to give a fuck about them.

So forget higher minimum wage, healthcare for all, student loan relief, money for infrastructure, augmenting social security and medicare and say hello to increased spending for weapon systems which do not work, more bases in god-forsaken parts of Africa, more investigations of Trump, “bipartisan” agreements to cutting “entitlements” and nothing more than lip service to all the progressive causes they pretended to support while campaigning. So how do they plan to make up for this betrayal, at least in their minds. Well.. by cynically trying to pass the most insane “gun control” laws which they know will never pass the senate, let alone Trump. But why is this such a bad thing, at least from the point of winning elections?

Because it will energize gun owners to vote against them en masse. But won’t this be balanced by those who vote for tougher “gun control” legislation? To be blunt.. unless you are living in the Bay Area or some parts of NY or NJ, not really. But it get worse. See.. establishment democrats will either dither over or reject any attempt to (let alone actually) pass legislation in line with their progressive and populist pre-election promises. In other words they will disappoint enough people who voted for them in 2018 to an extent where they will not vote in 2020 (like what happened in 2010 after 2008). And you know what.. they don’t care because their rich corporate backers will keep paying them the same whether they win or lose. It is all about keeping this pathetic and now very obvious game of make-believe “functional democracy” going.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. MikeCA
    November 19, 2018 at 12:08 pm

    “What do you think? Comments?”

    I think you are spreading Russian pro Trump propaganda.

    On the Jen Kirkman wagon? Is “putin” and “Russia” the reason why democratic party lost so many house seats, senate seats, governorships, state house seats between 2008 and 2016?

    Of course Democrats will not be able to “pass legislation in line with their progressive and populist pre-election promises.” They only control the House. Legislation has to also pass the Senate and be signed by the President.

    Is that why Obama omitted the public option from Romneycare.. I mean Obamacare in 2009?

    Remember that in 2009 when there was a Democratic President, House and 60 votes in the Senate, after passing a stimulus bill to try to boost economy, they passed the ACA. They did not do anything significant about gun control.

    And they could have just gone for a ‘simple majority in senate’ rule and got on with it, but their real masters would not like that.

    I remember you predicting Democrats would not even be able to win the house in 2018. I think you just hate Democrats.

    Perhaps you are confusing me ‘lion of the blogosphere’ or as I know him ‘half-shitma’ (based on this previous blog’s name).

    • MikeCA
      November 19, 2018 at 7:33 pm

      “On the Jen Kirkman wagon? ”

      I have never heard of Jen Kicrkman.

      Sure..

      “Is “putin” and “Russia” the reason why democratic party lost so many house seats, senate seats, governorships, state house seats between 2008 and 2016?”

      Democrats screwed up by not focusing enough resources at the state level. They are now making a better effort.

      Perhaps you might want to read a bit more about what happened after Obama was elected in 2008. And ya.. it was intentional.

      https://newrepublic.com/article/140245/obamas-lost-army-inside-fall-grassroots-machine

      and
      https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/no-we-cant-198655/

      “Is that why Obama omitted the public option from Romneycare.. I mean Obamacare in 2009?”

      This is just more what aboutism. Sure the ACA would have been better with the public option, but Democrats just didn’t have the votes to pass that. That does not diminish the accomplishment of passing the ACA.

      another reminder of how things actually went down.. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/ny-times-reporter-confirm_b_500999.html

      “And they could have just gone for a ‘simple majority in senate’ rule and got on with it, but their real masters would not like that.”

      I’m not sure who you think are the real masters here. This is how the Senate has operated for generations.

      So what changed in the past two years?

      “Perhaps you are confusing me ‘lion of the blogosphere’ or as I know him ‘half-shitma’ (based on this previous blog’s name).”

      I’m not confusing you. Do you remember this:

      https://dissention.wordpress.com/2018/05/05/interesting-youtube-clips-about-how-democrats-will-screw-up-in-2018/

      As late as August 2018, democrats were almost totally fixated on “Mueller”, “Russia” and “Putin”. They only started to talk about healthcare, minimum wage etc in last two months of the campaign. So I was correct to point out (in May 2018) that they were going to get screwed if they did not start campaigning on issues most people actually care about.

      Also, isn’t it shameful that democrats could pick up only 38-40 seats in the house? You might remember that republicans picked up more seats in 1994 and 2010- and the presidents in both instances were significantly less hated than Trump. Any semi-competent and real opposition party would have steamrolled the republicans. Then gain.. establishment democrats are republican-lite.

    • MikeCA
      November 19, 2018 at 11:56 pm

      “Perhaps you might want to read a bit more about what happened after Obama was elected in 2008. ”

      You sure delight in pointing out past perceived Democratic mistakes. Like I said Democrats screwed up.

      If you still choose to believe that it was a screw up rather than intentional and deliberate policy, that is your choice.

      “another reminder of how things actually went down.. ”

      Look, ACA is a huge step forward without the public option. As I said, it would have been better with the public option, but there just wasn’t the support there for the public option. Clinton’s attempt at health care reform in the 1990s was shot down by intense advertising campaign by for-profit hospital and doctors. Obama wanted those groups to support the ACA so it did not draw the same opposition.

      And that is precisely why I give less than zero fucks for all thpse idiots who believe in CONservatism. They truly deserve what they are getting now.

      There is absolutely nothing preventing a future Congress and President from adding the public option to the ACA.

      Unless they fear for their careers, that is not unlikely to happen.

      “As late as August 2018, democrats were almost totally fixated on “Mueller”, “Russia” and “Putin”.”

      Simply not true. I posted a comment on your post indicating that is is MSNBC, CNN, NYT and Washington Post that are fixated on Mueller, Russia and Putin. The message I was hearing was: Republicans want to cut health care, food assistance and other programs for poor and working class to pay for tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy. Next they will try to cut Social Security and Medicare to pay for tax cuts.

      Have you noticed that most news outlets and journalists not based in large coastal cities have all but disappeared over last decade? Ya.. that is why it matters.

      You seem to be arguing that because the ACA was not the perfect solution that you would like because it did not include the public option, people should vote for Republicans that want to repeal the ACA and replace it with nothing.

      Nothing short of a single-payer system or one that is effectively and practically single payer is workable in the long term.

      “Also, isn’t it shameful that democrats could pick up only 38-40 seats in the house? ”

      When all the votes in the House are counted, the Democratic popular vote will probably be about +8%. In 2010 Republicans were +6.8%. In 1994 Republicans were +7.1%. You also have to look at the base Democrats started from. 2008 was a disaster for Republicans so in 2010 they were able to pick up a large number of seats with +6.8%. 2016 was a weak performance by Republicans, they barely won the popular vote in the House and they lost 6 seats in the House.


      And still Trump won in states that Democrats had won since 1984. Remember that? Maybe ignoring people who live in fly-over states was not the smartest idea.

      Democrats flipped the House in spite of less than 4% unemployment, strong economic growth, and Republican gerrymandering of House districts in much of the country. That is a strong result and indicates the complete rejection of the Republican strategy of scaring white people into believing hordes of dark skinned people are coming to rape and kill them.

      Real unemployment is (and always has been) much higher. Also all the growth is not reaching most people. Republican gerrymandering is possible only because Democrats decided to abandon many states, including those in which they used to win as recently as the mid-1990s.

    • MikeCA
      November 20, 2018 at 8:51 pm

      “Have you noticed that most news outlets and journalists not based in large coastal cities have all but disappeared over last decade? Ya.. that is why it matters.”

      You are confusing the news media with the political parties. If you listen to FoxNews all the times, you might get the impression it is the Republican Party, but MSNBC, CNN, New York Times and Washington Post are definitely not mouth pieces of the Democratic party. Just look at all the stories they ran about Hillary’s emails in 2015-6.

      Democratic candidates have stump speeches and websites, but in the mid-terms there are hundreds of candidates. The big national media is not going to cover the message of hundreds of different candidates. In May they were talking about stories they thought would help their ratings.

      I live in California so I listened to debates on radio, read websites and studied local papers to see what issues the candidates were talking about. They were talking health care, food assistance and Republican efforts to cut those programs to pay for tax cuts for corporations and the very wealthy. They talked about comprehensive Immigration reform and protecting dreamers.

      You seem to be out of touch with what Democrats are saying. You need to stop listening to FoxNews and Russian trolls to find out what Democrats are saying.

      “And still Trump won in states that Democrats had won since 1984. Remember that? Maybe ignoring people who live in fly-over states was not the smartest idea.”

      That was 2016. This is 2018. Why are you still ranting about 2016?

      “Real unemployment is (and always has been) much higher. Also all the growth is not reaching most people. Republican gerrymandering is possible only because Democrats decided to abandon many states, including those in which they used to win as recently as the mid-1990s.”

      No question that economic inequality is growing and that is a major problem. Both Democrats and Republicans talk about that, but all Republicans ever do is make the in equality worse through tax cuts for the wealthy and cuts to safety net programs for the poor. The ACA was a big help to low income working people and Republicans tried and are still working on ways to take those benefits away.

      Wake up. Democrats are far from perfect, but they are a whole lot better than the other party.

  2. November 19, 2018 at 1:47 pm

    The magic number is 20%. If you support from 20$ of the population, it doesn’t matter how unpopular or pathetic you are. Trump supporters are a hardcore 20%. Why is this? Because 60 to 70 % of people are totally indifferent to politics. The most Hitler ever got was about 35 per cent of the vote. But that was enough. Democrats have been wishy-washy since Woodrow Wilson. There’s hardly any difference between the two parties ever since they both supported America getting involved in World War One (which was none of America’s business) and Wilson began the horrible tradition of America invading other countries for no goddamn reason.
    P.S. Don’t take my guns!!!

    • November 19, 2018 at 1:49 pm

      *you have support from 20% of population

  3. Neo
    November 20, 2018 at 3:37 pm

    I’m waiting to see the first Braveheart take on a Bradley with his Glock steel penis.

    So how has the “war” in Iraq and Afghanistan worked out for USA.

    • Neo
      November 22, 2018 at 3:11 am

      Not well. The US defeated Japan -a much more powerful adversary than the Taliban- in 3.75 years. The US have been “fighting” the Taliban for 16.5 years. The numbers speak for themselves.

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