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Why Escorts are Always a Better Deal than Relationships or Marriage: 6

In the previous post of this series, I put forth the idea that many behavioral oddities of women in dying ‘west’ make sense once you accept the hypothesis that they have internalized the capitalist belief system. The logical conclusion of that assumption is that treating them better than they are treating you will always be a losing proposition. In any case, pretty much all everything they are supposedly offering (other than sex) is an insipid simulacra of the original. To make a long story short, a relationshit is now a significantly and visibly inferior product than using escorts. I went on to write that there were other experiences, and cumulative changes in my worldview, during the 2005-2009 timespan which finally resulted in my choosing the escort-only path.

As some of you will notice, what I am about to write next has an interesting connection with the topic of another previous post. So.. what changed between 2005 and 2009? Let me explain that by describing an incident which illustrates both the process and direction of change. In mid-2006, I got to know a woman who was from a country bordering the Adriatic arm of Mediterranean Sea. She worked at some place which I frequented at that time and we got talking about a variety of things. Anyway.. she was married, but was vocal about the lack of future in that relationship. Tt helped that she was fairly young and attractive. Eventually, we went out a couple of times.

So far.. this story this sounds very boring and conventional- and it would have remained so if my worldview and attitudes had not changed over all those preceding years. To make a long story short (again), I quickly realized that she had a very specific man in her mind for cheating on her husband. She wanted a guy with a fairly specific look, height, accent, ancestry etc. Let me put it this way.. she wanted what some in “manosphere” would describe as a rich alpha- don’t they all. And then I decided to do something which I had not done on that scale and for that purpose. I slowly and methodically destroyed her mental justifications for imagining that she had a chance with such a guy. But here is the real kicker, I did it for my entertainment.

Upon realizing, quite early on, that she wanted to friendzone me- I decided to convert that ‘lost opportunity’ into some diabolical entertainment. That required me to first sit through all of her stupid chatter about what she wanted in her ‘deserved upgrade’. After making a few mental notes while smiling, I politely concluded the first meeting. A week or so later, she expressed a desire to meet again and I was happy to oblige. The second meeting went.. a bit differently. It started, as usual by me being polite and non-specific, till she brought up that issue again. I then started by playfully posing a simple and apparently question- why should the man of her dreams (for the purposes of cheating) choose her over chicks for having sex? And she took the bait..

She started by listing her non-physical attributes such as education, culture, intelligence etc. I asked her as to why she believed that those attributes carried weight in a relationship which was almost totally physical. She then tried to claim that her physical attributes were also pretty good. I pointed out that any guy with the specifications she required could easily get a more attractive woman 5-7 years younger than her to have sex with him. You see where this going.. She then claimed that she was willing to settle down with such a guy (offer of commitment) I countered by pointing out that any guy who could easily get an attractive woman 5-10 years younger than him was certainly not looking to settle down- especially with an inferior product.

And it gets better.. She then claimed that I was saying all those things because I “could not have her”. I asked her to explain whether she meant that “I wanted her” or “I wanted a woman, any woman”. She said she thought it was both. I acted surprised and told her that it was far easier for me to pay very attractive and capable escorts by the hour- and proceed to show her a few photos of them on my iPAQ handheld (remember this is 2006). She then tried to say that using escorts was immature and they did not love their customers etc. I then pointed out that we had spent a lot of time talking about her desire to cheat on her husband with a hunk, and that invalidated her talk about relationshits being real or worthwhile. All in a calm manner and with a straight face.

After a long awkward silence a bit of small talk, we parted ways and I never talked to her again. The coffee cost about four bucks, but the entertainment value was much.. much more. So.. why did I remember and mention this meeting? After all, this was hardly the first time I utilized the inconsistencies of women’s behavior to poke fun at them. In fact, I had been pointing out such issues for many years prior to this incident. For example- as early as 1999, I would make short and quick comments which ridiculed the preference of asian chicks for pathetic white guys to the face of the former. I had also previously done significantly milder versions of what is described in this post. But there was a difference, you see.. I was just doing it to rib them a bit, nothing more.

The incident described in this post was the first time that I went into a meeting like that with the sole intention of systematically mocking and insulting a person to the point that it would burn all bridges. I was not doing it to “neg” her or anything along those lines and I would have rejected sex even if she had proposed it. My mood at that time can be best described by a line from a 2008 movie.. “some men just want to watch the world burn”- and it felt awesome. In the next part of this series, I will go into other similar interactions during that timespan. Hopefully, we will also talk about why going scorched earth on some people is totally worth it and carries no real risk- the key word being some. And yes.. there are criteria to put people into that category.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. P Ray
    January 15, 2019 at 9:00 am

    That’s a truly amazing experience, very eye-opening and some would definitely say [LIFEFUEL]. She wanted you to be “jealous” about “maybe” having her for free … when you can pay and DEFINITELY get someone hotter.
    Too many women think “A man is valued for this, so a woman should be valued for it as well. – e.g. education.” Problem is you can’t fuck her degree.
    The problem is, of course … women want to cheat on the guy they’re with (who is supposedly also their best friend) … with someone who is attractive but doesn’t have many of the attributes of her boyfriend/husband.
    And of course, as you’ve observed, they (wilfully) confuse sex in an alley with commitment.

    Truly amazing, and the rise of feminism along with male persecution, is proving the reality that women want men to THINK they value character, when they ACT on men with the correct countenance, cock, and cash.

    • January 15, 2019 at 5:20 pm

      “…women want men to THINK they value character, when they ACT on men with the correct countenance, cock, and cash.”
      Yep.
      But, while much of women’s loud insistence otherwise may be outright lies designed to smokescreen their knowing, willful, deliberate actions, I concluded decades ago (I’m the 63-year-old, remember, lol) that it’s also designed to try to convince themselves that they really do value character rather than a man’s looks, cash, and package.

      For them to have to admit the truth to themselves is to have to acknowledge that they are just as shallow or even more shallow than the men they disparage for being “shallow”. And, unlike men, who are able to accept the truth about ourselves and what motivates us, women are too bio-wired for snowflakery to be able to bear that truth about themselves without wholesale meltdown.

      • P Ray
        January 16, 2019 at 3:08 pm

        women are too bio-wired for snowflakery to be able to bear that truth about themselves without wholesale meltdown.

        I personally think they’ve made their own insecurities about “wanting to fit in with other women” (the guys are all horndogs) and “I have to think about my future”(so I don’t feel guilty about lying to guys) as a justification about why they deserve complete license to be irresponsible.

        In short, just excuses to behave badly BUT men and society have a duty to compensate them because they’re women.

        But men demanding loyal virgin women are called “incels”.

        Spot the hypocrisy, and that’s why more men are just nope-ing out of the con-game of “traditional*” marriage and society.
        *”traditional” i.e. men are the bigger earners but the infidelity of women is excused “because we’re a modern society”.

      • January 16, 2019 at 3:38 pm

        “I personally think they’ve made their own insecurities …”

        I do think it’s bio-wired into them and that any social conditioning is a consequent outworking of that bio-wiring which (in the case of their insecurities) further amplifies and exacerbates the instinctive behavior.

        However, I also hold to what I’ve coined “The Rabid Dog Syndrome”: the dog may not have contracted rabies by choice, so it’s a victim of the rabies — but , nevertheless, the rabies makes it dangerous and if the dog steps onto my property, I’ll shoot it.
        Meaning that, to me, women’s behavior is caused by their biology therefore ultimately beyond their choice, but that I don’t have to accept it, tolerate it, excuse it, nor condone it any more than I do the dangers posed by a mad rabid dog.

  2. January 15, 2019 at 9:26 am

    sorta like when we take a bunch nazi youths across state lines where “indoctrination” doesn’t cross those pesky consent laws. We tell ’em Santa Claws and the Easter Bunny ain’t real. Then we liquor ’em up and give ’em “prostate exams.” The beta ones wanna cuddle afterwords, the “alpha” stormtrooper types roll up in a ball and cry like babies…

    BTW, which one of you Hindu Nuffins put this up???

    It’s hurting our recruitment, please take it down…

  3. P Ray
    January 15, 2019 at 11:00 pm

    Related, the words of wisdom from Jerry Springer:
    You know, it may be easier than we think, I mean, it’s really not that hard to make a relationship work – if both parties want it to.
    I mean, think about it, if there’s something we really want, most of us know how to turn on the charm to improve our chances of getting it – when you first start dating someone you pour it on, don’t you? The flowers, the notes, the calls – in other words, we all have little difficulty figuring out how to make the person we want to be happy, happy.
    So, maybe there’s nothing here you really have to look up in the library or Google or read about in the waiting room of your doctor’s office.
    Maybe all that’s required is being honest with yourself – do I really want to be in this relationship? – because if you do then make him or her happy and don’t pretend you don’t know how to do it.
    Till next time, take care of yourself and each other.

    Of course, a guy with a girl who thinks “I am settling for him”, the girl will be very hard to make happy, because she knows not being happy with him gets her the cash and prizes, which is why if you have to struggle to keep the relationship alive … SHE DOESN’T WANT YOU. And she is of course, very likely to give you an STD, drain your wallet, or make you the father of her bastard.

  4. Neo
    January 16, 2019 at 12:41 am

    Well played! I can think of the few times I had the opportunity to do as you did, only I didn’t. Too soon old, too late smart! Paid dearly for those rides, I did!

    One thing I wish I knew when I was young was the insight you had about that woman’s motives. Knowing that, it would be easy to discern that men are but a tool for her benefit, to use and discard once she’s gotten what she wants. That bullshit about how escorts don’t love their customers doesn’t mean that a woman you have a relationshit with does. Love, as Tina Turner once sang, has nothing to do with it.

    A woman seeks financial security whether or not she desires to be a mother. She just doesn’t want to have to work for it. If she can get it by spreading her legs or opening her mouth and swallowing, that is all the work she will be willing to do – at least as long as she hasn’t gotten bored with you.

    I’ve been reading lately about women who lose their desire for sex at about the one year point in any relationshit, marital or not. It seems that riding the cock carousel is what women expect to have happen. They have to have variety, or sex gets boring. I’d love to hear a woman explain how love factors into THAT arrangement!

    You can read about this “research” here if you choose:

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/oct/13/a-strong-libido-and-bored-by-monogamy-the-truth-about-women-and-sex

    I made the mistake of marrying, and my sex life almost literally ended the moment I said “I do”, for I rarely did again. So I say to you younger men, stay single. Never let a woman move in with you, and only hire pros for sex. You will have a much better experience, You can decide which woman you want each time, and you won’t have to put up with her 24/7. And you will keep control of your life.

    • January 16, 2019 at 9:38 am

      Amusingly to me, Wednesday Martin’s pop-marketed admission had all been told fourteen years ago by Michelle Langley’s 2005 “Women’s Infidelity”.

      Langley was “merely” a layperson, not a Ph”D as Martin is, so of course she’s lbeen largely ignored and unknown, but she didn’t need societally-sanctioned “credentials” to conclude and explicitly admit the very same facts which Martin will probably earn significant profit saying.

      Based on her own experience and the similar experiences informally related to her by her upper-middle-class female peers, Langley stated this about women’s sexuality: by no later than the fourth year of any committed relationship, including what would socially be labeled as enviable relationships, almost all women lose sexual desire for even a guy for whom they initially, spontaneously felt (sometimes intense or even uncontrolled) sexual passion.

      Langley acknowledged that, when their loss of interest occurs, while women typically blame the guy for her becoming unhappy and feeling something is missing, the guy usually hasn’t changed — he’s still the same guy with the same traits for whom, at the beginning of the relationship, the woman felt intense sexual passion and insisted was her lifelong soul-mate.

      Since, historically, woman have continually tried to convince even themselves that they are monogamous, the woman can’t accept that she’s the one whose sexual feelings have changed, and so she insists it’s all the guy’s fault that she’s unhappy, lacking passion, feeling unfulfilled, no longer feeling “in love” with him.

      Martin’s Ph’D will probably garner her attention, therefore the profits she’s hoping for by selling books and speaking engagements. But, it’s already all been said by a woman author over a decade ago.

      And, of course, some of us men have been saying it about women all along. But, heck — we’re men, so why should anyone have believed any book we wrote? But, hopefully, women and society hearing it from a “credentialed” woman may help open a few more minds to reality.

      • P Ray
        January 16, 2019 at 2:27 pm

        Yup, have read that book as well (and Devlin too, much much earlier). Within the first few pages had concluded that … if the women were attracted to their husbands, they “wouldn’t have found it difficult to make the effort”. The blackpill is real and amazing, but for a quicker read, visit https://old.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/

      • January 17, 2019 at 10:13 am

        As a post script…While I agree with most of Devlin’s review of “Women’s Infidelity” as well as with most of his views on the nature of women (about twenty years ago, before I ever heard of Devlin, Tomassi, etcetera, I coined the phrase “Dual Bio-Wiring” to explain women’s complex “marry the ugly wallet/fuck the impoverished poolboy” self-contradictory behaviors)… I disagree with and am not supportive of white nationalism.

    • January 16, 2019 at 11:59 am

      For those with enough time and inclination to read it, here’s what, in my opinion, is a point-on-accurate critical analysis and summation of Michelle Langely’s 2005 book, “Women’s Infidelity”:

      https://www.toqonline.com/archives/v7n2/v7no2_Devlin.pdf

      It also includes a review of and excellent commentary on Stephen Baskerville’s 2007, “Taken into Custody: The War against Fatherhood, Marriage, and the Family”.

      • Neo
        January 16, 2019 at 1:38 pm

        Thank you Joe. I took the time to read your linked document. I can’t tell you specifically how many family mysteries that document solved. But I can tell you that I now understand better at least three generations of my own extended family females.

        The second part explains my FIL and the horrors he went through. It is almost his history, not that he would have admitted it. He also made all of the mistakes a man makes by not learning from his experiences, included his third wife who cheated on him constantly. I inadvertently broke up one of her affairs just by helping her move once.

        I would propose to have the link to this paper posted permanently on the front page of this site, and to have it referred to often. This was the information I needed to know at the time I got caught in this trap.

        I’m about the same age as you, Joe. I believe that we elder men have a duty to ensure that the young men who follow us are as informed of the dangers facing them as possible. It is the only way we are going to ever fix this abuse.

        Thanks again!

  5. Don
    January 18, 2019 at 10:38 pm

    This may not be relevant for this post but it is an important point nevertheless. You mention a lot about modern slavery based work. Yet, you seems to provide far fewer examples of ways out of the plantation so to speak. Why?

    Be more specific. Are you talking about advice for career etc or advice for relationshits?

    • Don
      January 19, 2019 at 9:59 pm

      Career.

      i.e. You talk about how bad being a wage slave is yet don’t talk about a solution.

  6. Rajput College
    January 18, 2019 at 11:27 pm

    She didn’t want you because you’re a short, Curry smelling, Beta schlub.

    You do realize that constantly changing your handle does not fool anybody.. right?

    • P Ray
      January 19, 2019 at 10:05 pm

      The funny thing about women going only after Chad Thundercock …
      is that many of them can’t stop complaining when he moves on after getting a better offer.

      So women, “want a man better than them, to be loyal to them alone”. But when they complain, nobody in the mainstream media tells them to stop complaining.

      And then these women, want the mass of men to support them and their bastard children via tax. And of course, complain when other singlemom spawn commit crime against them (since they weren’t raised properly or got the idea from singlemom that “Gimme Gimme Gimme” was a viable economic strategy for life)

      Maybe if she had learnt early that being loyal to one guy who had few options, would have given her a better life,
      but on the flip side, if a man is marrying a woman his age, that’s a mistake. Usual rule applies – man 30+, woman 15+. No hymen, no diamond, as the saying goes.

  7. Neo
    January 19, 2019 at 12:31 pm

    Want to know why men have such a tough time in life? Having to include morons like Rajput-head-up-ass as a member.

    The thought literally just occurred to me that having a woman in your life is like being a US Government employee right now (Trump hasn’t spoken yet, just for the record). You have to work for free. You can’t call in sick, there are no breaks, no days off, and no vacations. You can never do things right, yet you aren’t allowed to stop. And just one infraction can cause you to get “separated” with prejudice costing you everything you worked for.

    • P Ray
      January 19, 2019 at 10:23 pm

      The thought literally just occurred to me that having a woman in your life is like being a US Government employee right now (Trump hasn’t spoken yet, just for the record).

      Great clip to go with what you said:
      https://tinyurl.com/nx8e3aq

    • P Ray
      January 19, 2019 at 10:25 pm

      Cosmo Kramer: Marriage? Family? They’re prisons! Man made prisons. You’re doing time. You get up in the morning. She’s there. You go to sleep at night. She’s there. It’s like you gotta ask permission to use the bathroom. Is it all right if I use the bathroom now?!

  8. Don
    January 20, 2019 at 12:02 am

    I feel like I am not sex guy. Nor am I a peoples’ person. At least, I believe that I am. Therefore, I believe fucking escorts are like hiring Ubers. Not very sexy to think about it. Ultimately, what I want is a classy hot girl. Escorts maybe hot but definitely not classy. But I want to know what guys think is wrong with my logic above?

  9. cope with condom
    January 22, 2019 at 10:59 am

    how do you cope with a condom? it feels like masturbating while your dick is covered in a sandwich bag. sex dolls are a better investment.

    Get a non-latex condom?

  10. January 25, 2019 at 8:26 am

    “… many of them can’t stop complaining when he moves on after getting a better offer.
    “So women, ‘want a man better than them, to be loyal to them alone”’ But when they complain, nobody in the mainstream media tells them to stop complaining.
    “And then these women, want the mass of men to support them and their bastard children via tax. And of course, complain when other singlemom spawn commit crime against them (since they weren’t raised properly or got the idea from singlemom that ‘Gimme Gimme Gimme”’was a viable economic strategy for life)….”

    In other words, “Toxic Femininity”.

  11. Don
    January 27, 2019 at 12:17 am

    What is your idea of traveling to have sex? Do you have any experience and any tips are highly appreciated.

  12. Jon
    January 27, 2019 at 9:46 am

    Why do you fuck ugly poor girls (semi-pros)? Are they that hot?

  13. CRJ
    January 30, 2019 at 8:43 pm

    AD, You’ve got one more follower!

    41-year old divorced Indian here, and I am so glad to have found your blog (probably through Rational Male, I think). Well, you have convinced me to hire an escort, which I did over the last weekend. Best decision made and great GFE ever. Thanks!

    Glad to hear that my advice helped. Hope your ex-wife did not get any significant amount of alimony, child support etc.

    Your observation Asian women-white men dynamic is spot on. I can attest that and here’s my experience. Re-entering the dating market, I have recently been in SE Asia for work, and find Asian females here to be the most racist of all.

    That high school drop-out barista I chatted with and showed some kind of interest on me and exchanged numbers. as soon as I mention, I’m Indian, she went radio silent. That low-wage secretary asking where I am from and once I mention my race, she’s a goner. Here’s the kicker. I’ll tell my race and don’t tell what passport I hold (it is usually the country they all lust to go to).

    Heck, they all want white men – view them as mobile ATMs or vehicles aka beta bucks – to get them out of their miserable life or country. Worse, they all believe they deserve white guys just because they are Asian female. It’s hilarious, especially on the dating sites, where high school girls, women in mediocre careers, and single moms all want Caucasian men only from the Yoonited Staytes, Well maybe from other “rich” places too but the first choice is US.

    Luckily, after reading your series of posts on why escorts are better than relationships, I decided to get one. It took me some time to get past the mental barrier. But the price is worth for the service I got. It has actually removed the sexual frustration I’d built up due to getting rejected by “quality” women post-divorce.

    • P Ray
      January 30, 2019 at 9:24 pm

      Yup. Asian women like to talk about how they “value” education, but while young and attractive are almost always on the arms of men with an education only in violence.

      Then they say they are “mature” later so want to be with men that have money and status.

      But apparently also are “chaste” and “coy” so will not be “mature” enough to tell you when they started having sex, how many boyfriends they had, or what sexual acts they did on those guys … that they won’t do to you on account of “we are a respectable couple, I am a respectable girl, I don’t do those sorts of things”.

      Women hate porn, not really because of moral reasons.
      It’s because, it gives ideas to the men she’s NOT attracted to, but has to be with … about what kinky things she did to the men she IS attracted to. She doesn’t want the NOT attractive men to get the animal sex. So she will say things like “porn is degrading to women, I’ve never done those things, any man who likes those things is a guy I hate”. Lel at all the lying.

      These Asian women are also quite moronic, in that they don’t understand that the UK and US have minimum income laws and the reality that if your spouse doesn’t make enough money (at least until she becomes eligible to work – and remember, the citizenship is not always automatic) … she won’t be allowed to stay on.

      Of course, these women “barred from immigration” then try to prey on local Asian men by saying “how I was done wrong by white guys” … ignoring their own CONSENT to be in that situation for a long period of time.

      • Don
        January 31, 2019 at 2:05 am

        P Ray said quote “Women hate porn, not really because of moral reasons.
        It’s because, it gives ideas to the men she’s NOT attracted to, but has to be with … about what kinky things she did to the men she IS attracted to.” Un Quote.

        We all should understand this. We all should give some gold to P Ray for putting it into words.

        As for Asian girls, I always had no real yellow fever. Unbeknownst to me I know I was being smart.

      • CRJ
        January 31, 2019 at 8:44 pm

        “Women hate porn, not really because of moral reasons. It’s because, it gives ideas to the men she’s NOT attracted to, but has to be with … about what kinky things she did to the men she IS attracted to.”

        @Don. Absolutely. This should be drilled into our memory.

        What is so annoying about Asian females is that they degrade and look down their own men – the locals. AM are not her first choice. They say things like, “Asian guys are controlling.” (Translation: They don’t put up with your BS) and foreign men (i.e. white) are so polite, kind, gallant and friendly (Yeah, to get under your panties).

        You see what type of WM they hang out with here, English teachers, backpackers, “businessmen”, men past prime (in 60s or later) that had 3 children from two different women, bartenders/chefs or some low-level manager for a company that needs English speakers to work with their clients overseas. I am yet to see white men in top management (VP, Director, CEO-types) with Asian women here. At least in my corporate setting, I see these men have been married to women of their own race or nationality. But I could be wrong here because of my low sample size.

      • P Ray
        January 31, 2019 at 9:30 pm

        In 4 lines about what’s wrong:
        1.Nice guys want sex.
        2.Assholes want sex.
        3.All men want sex.

        4.Why is it only a problem when the nice guys want it? Shaming nice guys … is simply giving license to, and excusing women’s bad choices for relationships.

        Because you’re not in a relationship … until you’re having sex with the other person.

        It’s another example of “what women say, goes!” At least consequences and gravity don’t bow to their wishes.

      • CRJ
        February 5, 2019 at 10:25 pm

        Here’s a sample profile I pulled out today – this is what I normally see on the dating sites in East/SE-Asia and what AD has been talking about.

        A somewhat better-looking (HB 6/7) or younger (<30 years) means even more specific demands such as explicitly stating: no other races or nationalities except White or West, degrees (such as PhD), income ($100K) and asset requirements (house/car). Gotta love these solipsistic profiles! :p :p

      • P Ray
        February 6, 2019 at 12:53 am

        The best part about the obvious reactions to her mercenary demands, is manifold:
        1. Marriage to an Australian does not guarantee automatic citizenship any more https://transferwise.com/gb/blog/how-to-get-citizenship-in-australia
        Can I obtain citizenship through marriage?
        There’s no special route to become an Australian citizen by marriage. Even if your partner is Australian, you’ll have to fulfil all the regular requirements to be eligible to apply, including the residence and good character rules. Having an Australian spouse or partner, however, should weigh in your favour when you need to show you have ongoing ties to the country, as part of your application pack.

        2. Any Australian is going to want to “try before buying” (remember, “romance” actually means “acceptable courtship rituals before fucking outside of marriage”)

        3. She never mentions her age, so is probably “out of the desirable range” (which is 20 to 15)

        4. Doesn’t mention any achievements, so with the atrocious English got passed with a lowly/easy qualification like “early childhood education” (how many women are actually interested in deep subjects except to get close to Chad)

        5. Is almost certain to be of those Asian semi-dopey feminists that doesn’t realise mother’s height influences son’s height so will create a manlet and tell him lies (because she had an easy time finding men, surely the son’s challenges to meet women is because of his personality, not the mother’s height that gave him poor height)

        Asian women looking for a “white” knight just reminds me of “be grateful she showed her real self before you got into a relationship with her and the famous acronym LBFMPBR “Little Brown Fucking Machine – Powered By Rice”.

      • CRJ
        February 7, 2019 at 3:01 am

        I think she is about hit the Wall (30). It wasn’t my intention to post this bitch’s profile. The dating site does allow to a preference for ethnicities where one could choose the race inside their profile. She did that (“Caucasian”) and then went on to highlight her repugnant in-your-face racism (“No Black or Dark Man” in all caps) on top of her profile. That really pissed me off. However, this is normal among the AF here, and, as I mentioned, a little better-looking chick means even more entitlement and higher demands. As you’d pointed out they literally have no idea about the laws or that a White guy is not going to bring them back to West to get married unless he’s a clueless beta!

        “be grateful she showed her real self before you got into a relationship with her” —–> This! The biggest advantage of being a non-white is that it acts as a great filter to vet all mediocre women in the dating market.

      • P Ray
        February 8, 2019 at 6:44 am

        Related, from https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5555959/Why-raising-sons-question-female-empowerment-doing-boys.html
        The young man who says women his age treat him like the enemy
        Ravi Kumar, 30, is an office administrator from Milton Keynes.

        There are times when I feel like I’m on the enemy side in a war between the sexes that, as a man, I didn’t sign up for.

        The women I ask out blatantly try to establish that I’m at least as successful as they are before they’ll consider a date. I’m judged by my earning potential long before my personality becomes a consideration. I have a mother, grandmothers, a sister and a niece: I loathe the idea of any one of them being disadvantaged because of her sex. And yet, my generation seems to be expected to take male inequality on the chin, as though we deserve to be punished for sins committed against women in the past.

        It’s well documented that boys are trailing behind girls at school and university. But in my experience, the problem is following us out of the classroom and into the adult world, too.

        Men and women don’t seem to know how to talk to each other any more. I’m terrified of inadvertently coming across as sexist by saying the wrong thing.

        If I complain, I’m told to suck it up and ‘be a man’. But the fact is, being a man seems to be what’s going against me in the first place. When I do go on dates, women seem more interested in impressing me with their latest promotion than exploring what we have in common.

        Recently I went to a speed-dating event and told a girl my ambition was to become an accountant. She said she wouldn’t date an accountant; she was at the stage in her career where she would want someone who ran their own accountancy firm. I felt snubbed. I would happily date a woman less qualified than me, but women seem to want a man to provide for them financially as well as having equal rights.

        I feel like I’m not just on the enemy side, but on the losing one, too. After all, successful women simply aren’t interested in a bloke like me these days.

        I personally would say, the real reasons women have so many obstacles to lay before him is … 1)they’re not attracted to him by virtue of race 2)they think they will always be pretty and attractive 3)got pumped and dumped by an alpha so are looking for the next one 4)feminism taught them to never settle 5)government is now their husband – endless welfare in UK, Australia, NZ 6)nobody can tell them off because “women are always right” 7)as an Asian man you can’t complain because you “belong to a misogynist culture” 8)you must be their slave while they go on the hunt for Chad Thundercock and 9)if anything bad happens to them as a result of their choices, you are one of the people to blame, along with the other regular/ugly guys, Chad is exempt …

        those blackpills need further spreading, as the years roll on more men will awaken to the absolute horrorshow of their lives.

      • P Ray
        February 8, 2019 at 9:17 pm

        Going to happen in Australia, already something similar has happened in NZ:
        Migrants to Australia, have to stay where they are placed, require permission to move, if they move without permission cannot gain permanent residency.
        Sounds a lot like the Chinese hukou model. Looks like the West is copying Asia, lol
        https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/migrants-face-deportation-if-they-move-under-population-control-visas-20190208-p50wkz.html
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        Migrants face deportation if they move, under population control visas
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        Migrants will have their visas cancelled if they leave designated areas under one of the first stages of the government’s $19 million population package.

        The policy, first flagged by The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age in August, will see regional councils empowered to sponsor workers.

        Immigration Minister David Coleman has directed the department to send out officers to negotiate agreements with specific areas including Cairns in Queensland and Arana in western NSW.

        “The visa will require people to work in that area,” he said. “You can’t just go and work somewhere else.”

        He said if workers sought to move they would have to seek another visa.
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        “To be frank it would be unlikely they would obtain it and they would not be able to obtain permanent residency.

        “It is about encouraging people to areas that have persistent problems in attracting people,” he said.

        They already did this much earlier and more deceptively, when skilled – MALE – Asian workers came over … I recall hearing of doctors being sent down woop woop way. Because they can’t have those strange people from other cultures mixing with the educated citizens, rednecks are OK though.

      • Don
        February 8, 2019 at 9:17 pm

        What do you think is a cure for the allure of being a chad yourself?

      • Don
        February 8, 2019 at 9:18 pm

        Is there a way to pump and dump women without being a chad just like some PUAs suggest?

      • P Ray
        February 8, 2019 at 11:40 pm

        What do you think is a cure for the allure of being a chad yourself?
        Is there a way to pump and dump women without being a chad just like some PUAs suggest?

        The important thing to remember is if the price to “win” the woman is “to be a Chad” … you’re not dealing with someone who wants you as a human being, you are dealing with a person who has a “redemption cost”.

        I suppose one thing a lot of women do is create psychopaths, either by:
        1. breeding with men who have mental issues, since those guys are “exciting and dangerous” – observe the “great personality” of Ted Bundy in action in the latest Netflix documentary

        2. messing with regular/ugly men’s heads by going hot and cold about the relationship and generally finding ways not to reciprocate OR blame him for every relationship trouble.

        This is a good page to gird yourself to understand the saying: All is fair in love and war:
        https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/is-marcos-evil-for-conning-women-looking-to-trade-sex-for-financial-security/

        Technically, you are not being a pick up artist … because the women looking for a “stable guy” are usually the ones that chose to get picked up and dumped a long time ago – when they were attractive. They’re over 30, and “suddenly” interested in nice men, of course with ulterior motives and will be very eager to tell you “I’m not that type of girl (unless you’re the guy she’s really interested in)”.

        Remember that she considers you adequate. She needs you to finance her lifestyle and (respectfully) show you off to her friends (you won’t be allowed to pinch her butt in public or grope her … but Chad was allowed to do that), but she doesn’t want you.

      • Don
        February 9, 2019 at 12:16 am

        Okay, I get it. Especially after reading this. https://dissention.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/escorts-are-a-better-deal-than-real-women-03/ Thanks P Ray.

        That leaves me wondering though, who gets all the instagram sluts?

      • Don
        February 9, 2019 at 12:16 am

        Or is it not that simple?

      • P Ray
        February 9, 2019 at 12:19 am

        That leaves me wondering though, who gets all the instagram sluts?

        If you’re willing to pay for them you can “get” them, though whether they are “gotten” depends on whether they want to or not.
        Instagram sluts can also take your money and not “deliver”, saying the money is “payment for my great companionship”.

        It’s “compensated dating” without the sex that people who are dating, get. In that way the Japanese model is quite good.

      • CRJ
        February 11, 2019 at 12:44 am

        One of the realisations I had after my good first GFE with escorts is that pussy is a commodity and by extension, I don’t have to put it on pedestal any more as men have to do in dating or even, dare I say, PUA. As AD mentioned elsewhere in his blog, the price is not that expensive if you are decent earner – which i think most average guys are. And the certainty that comes with hiring the escort: you’re guaranteed to get laid, unlike playing cat and mouse games with the woman you are interested in for STR, LTR or pick-up!

    • CRJ
      January 31, 2019 at 8:27 pm

      “Glad to hear that my advice helped. Hope your ex-wife did not get any significant amount of alimony, child support etc.”

      Luckily things escalated before we had kids and I escaped the child support ransom and without debts. (The Gods took pity on me and decided to show some mercy). Still, the whole experience and process was a nightmare that had left me devastated emotionally, professionally and financially. At 41, I had to rebuild my life starting with a few hundred dollars (literally!).

  14. P Ray
    February 6, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    Have to add this here:

    Remember, misogyny is just thinking differently from a woman. That’s not allowed in this modern age of freedom of speech.

    • CRJ
      February 7, 2019 at 3:17 am

      Women can do no wrong by virtue of their gender, and men’s objective criticism of women’s behaviour is misogyny.

  15. Don
    February 9, 2019 at 1:08 am

    What do you guys think of the pickup artist Ross Jeffries and NLP (Neuro-linguistic Programming)?

    • P Ray
      February 17, 2019 at 8:41 am

      Pickup artistry is a sham:
      The men who need it, in the age of connectivity, women will quickly go wise to it …
      but the men who don’t need it, it the techniques always work on women.

      What does that tell you?
      If you want to get a woman’s attentions for cheap, better be attractive to other women.
      Otherwise, hold an “experiences” advantage over her, e.g. “You can only get into this club with me”, “If you want that holiday it’s only with me” …
      The only way most women treat regular/ugly men seeking romance is with disdain, unless they have a need for them.

      So if she wants to put her hand in your money wallet, put your (Anthony) weiner in her sausage wallet. No honey, no money.

  16. Don
    February 17, 2019 at 6:46 am

    Why does most people say I’ll be lonely if I don’t marry and what is a good counter point to that stupid argument?

    It is stupid because most unmarried older people I know are definitely not lonely.

    • P Ray
      February 17, 2019 at 8:44 am

      The unmarried older people you know are probably not lonely because they saved all that money. Girlfriends and wives are expensive.
      But those unmarried older people are also alone, and make very good pickings for the fucktrophies of singlemoms and other liberally depraved folk. Also, few people will care when they’re violently killed – the police really only work when there is pressure on them, and an old person with no living relatives can simply be forgotten.

      There’s no escape, whether from the evils of women or the world, as Hesiod has said.

      • Don
        February 17, 2019 at 9:20 am

        What would be a practical solution for old age loneliness and for not being victimized at old age?

      • Don
        February 17, 2019 at 9:23 am

        What is the solution for it all?

      • P Ray
        February 17, 2019 at 9:30 am

        This is the nearest “deadman’s switch” I can think of:
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5851103/Ukrainian-mother-boy-beaten-death-faces-deported-no-longer-UK-dependent.html
        Heartbroken Ukrainian mother of five-year-old boy who was brutally beaten to death by her boyfriend after losing a shoe faces being deported because she no longer has UK dependent
        Ukrainian mother Liliya Breha faces being kicked out of Britain after 12 years
        Permission to remain in the UK ended with the death of her British-born son Alex
        Marvyn Iheanacho, 39, was jailed for life for battering girlfriend’s son to death
        Despite his criminal record, he was allowed to look after Alex Malcolm, five

        She didn’t take care of her kid, was a foreign partner and the kid was mashed.
        In the same way certain countries have the law that until citizenship is granted, the foreign woman can only stay while the relationship with the local man continues to exist.

        Those are the countries that you need to become a citizen of.

      • Don
        February 17, 2019 at 7:54 pm

        Be a citizen of a developed country. Bring in a foreign girlfriend. Make sure she doesn’t get citizenship. Seems like a good strategy. Especially in old age. Seems like a nice strategy. Thanks. I’ll look into it.

      • P Ray
        February 17, 2019 at 8:05 pm

        Be a citizen of a developed country.
        You mean the ones talking about equality for women, that ends up being superiority of women? I would say, look for a non-white or non-English speaking country. Not necessarily both are needed. For non-white, could be Dominican Republic, Thailand (yes, foreigners CAN own property there), Brazil … For non-English try Poland, Greece or Chile

        Make sure she doesn’t get citizenship.
        That part’s not up to you, so read up about how residency is applied – ESPECIALLY watch out for the “he was abusive to me, so I am automatically granted a protection order and can stay on despite 1.no evidence of the abuse and 2.have not attained citizenship yet”.

        The fun part is, the developed country may be wise to “our local women are crap so we will stop foreign women from getting here so that muh white supremacy (supremacy of the most racist or delusional)” can continue.

        Reference: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12204793NEW ZEALAND
        Kiwi host Michael Vickers, 52, demands apology from Immigration NZ for denying entry to 23 year old Brazilian girlfriend Polyanna Mendonca

        No, his age isn’t mentioned in that article, I just checked around on Google and helpfully inserted that in. Just for context.

    • Clueless Virgin
      March 26, 2019 at 8:50 am

      This is a question I am asking as an older male virgin reading the above comments. How can I get a foreign girlfriend to come live with me in my developed country in the first place?

      Please answer what could be the dumbest question ever on this site. Thanks.

      Escorts are superior to GFs, because interactions with the former are an honest transaction unlike the later.

      If you just want loyal company, get a dog- not a GF or wife.

      • P Ray
        March 26, 2019 at 8:34 pm

        How can I get a foreign girlfriend to come live with me in my developed country in the first place?

        The people after that arrangement are gold-diggers. If you are in a country that readily grants citizenship to women based on false accusations, has a large base of sour-faced feminists, ideas about relationships only being OK if the woman is older or the same age as the man, obvious double-standards in how men get treated based on looks – that cannot be complained about lest you get seen as weak and whiny, guaranteed jobs for women, lower entry requirements for women and reduced prison sentences or men are always to blame … you are already in a feminist shithole, and there is nothing to be gained from getting a foreign girlfriend to live with you, unless you are after:
        1.a lighter wallet
        2.custodial sentence due to coercive behaviour
        3.relationship rape accusations
        4.STDs
        5.beatdowns by white knights (feminised societies produce men willing to jump on a woman’s command)

  17. Draper
    March 9, 2019 at 8:52 am

    What about keeping company with a woman? Isn’t it great to have a woman to come home to? Let alone having someone to talk to?

    How many long-term married guys like spending time with their wives?

    I don’t understand your point. Please elaborate.

    • Draper
      March 9, 2019 at 9:11 am

      How do you deal with loneliness anyway?

      • March 9, 2019 at 3:35 pm

        “How do you deal with loneliness anyway?”

        Ultimately and absolutely, there is no “forever-and-gone, now-I’m-happily-ever-after” way to solve loneliness — at any one time, there are probably more people who feel lonely (at least at times) WITHIN a long-term relationship then don’t.

        At best, relationships, including long-term marriage, can alleviate loneliness only temporarily, for varying lengths of time.

        Loneliness seems to be instinctive — it motivates us humans to seek sexual partners (therefore helping to ensure the species reproduces) and social partners (therefore helping to ensure we function collectively, which seems overall to create a more secure, nurturing environment for our children, which also helps ensure species survival).

        Therefore, it’s probably a benefit toward species survival that humans never permanently avoid loneliness. Likely, we’re wired for “never-quite-getting-the-itch-scratched”, meaning, even after initiating sexual and social commitments, we’ll experience loneliness again in the long term. Biology isn’t concerned with our feelings per se — it uses pain to keep us seeking what will ensure species survival.

        All meaning — don’t ever expect any relationship to permanently eliminate loneliness…and accept that loneliness, same as hunger and thirst, is simply part of your biological package.

    • P Ray
      March 9, 2019 at 10:47 am

      I don’t understand your point. Please elaborate.

      Most men are married to women that only want to be married to a man that doesn’t require care and love from them when he suffers setbacks, but demands that men be open to them, yet make fun of men who share their problems.

      Do you get that? Women want to marry men … who they will never be asked to help if he has problems.

      Also, a lot of “loneliness” is manufactured, because people like to present their life with their partner as having 0 problems.

      Which is also why, for example, domestic violence against women will never be solved. Too many women are too stupid to understand that being a partner to a man that is bigger than you and stronger than you that they like to show “displays of dominance” … will result in violence against her. That’s why it’s hard for me to sympathise with “domestic violence survivors”, just like it’s hard for me to sympathise with “ponzi scheme survivors”.

    • March 9, 2019 at 11:50 am

      I’m age 63, and I’ve been married to the same woman for 39 years; it’s our one-and-only marriage for each of us, and we have six kids, ages 21 to 34. We’re both atheists (meaning, we don’t remain married for any religious reason), and, I’ve never been financially successful (meaning she doesn’t stay with me for my money nor resources).

      She is Asperger, which reduces her emotional reactivity, which in practical outworking means she ends up thinking and behaving a lot more logically and rationally than the majority of women — which is likely why we’re still together For an illustrative example; she has told other women for over thirty years, “If a wife can’t or won’t fulfill her husband’s sexual needs, but refuses to at least accept him getting his sexual needs met outside the marriage, then that wife is a selfish, cruel bitch who should stop claiming she loves him.” We’ve had a mutually consensual open marriage for decades.

      Consequently, I have what I’d consider a rare “content marriage” — we experience ongoing problems and issues, but we partner well enough that the benefits outweigh the detriments to the point each of us concludes remaining together is the most logical choice.

      So, from that point of reference, I offer these to your questions:

      1) “Isn’t it great to have a woman to come home to?”

      In the long term, it is only in an idealized fiction story, with no unbearable ongoing life stresses, in which all solutions happen quickly, where all difficulties and issues actually have solutions, where rationality always triumphs over irrational feelings, and in which all women truly understand men and men’s needs and want to meet those needs.

      In reality, it can OCCASIONALLY be nice to have a woman to come home to. Usually, however, she’s got her own problems and stresses from which she’s expecting you to rescue her (not in the way you want to, but in the way she wants you to, which will often mean you won’t be able to rescue her “the right way” so you will disappoint, annoy, and/or anger her).

      Further, in the long-term, she’s not going to focusing on nor prioritizing you and your needs, nor will she ever really understand nor want to understand your needs anyway (although she’ll claim she does or claims she wants to).

      Meaning, after the initial relational honeymoon of no longer than three years or so, you’ll be coming home from one set of problems (“dealing with people outside your home”) to another set of problems (“dealing with the woman in your home”).

      “A woman is nice to come home to” exists only in the idyllic “how-it-ought-to-be-and-wish-it-was” propaganda we humans tell ourselves to prevent ourselves from being truly objective about how incompatible men and women are,

      2) “Let alone having someone to talk to?”

      Again here, as in 1)…In the long term, a man and woman talking is similar to, say, a cat and dog talking — they may both be mammals, and share some similar needs and instincts, but the differences between them inevitably result in, at best scenario , an uneasy truce. Because men’s and women’s biochemical wirings perceive and process reality differently and also react/respond to reality very differently, she’s not going to be “talking” on the same plane you do.

      Even IF total truth and honesty is possible, and even with great communication skills, expect that any “talk” with her inevitably integrates miscommunication, misunderstanding, conflicting conclusions, long-term disagreements, tension, mis-perceptions, and never-dislodgable presumptions.

      • hoipolloi
        March 9, 2019 at 8:43 pm

        Thanks joe santus for sharing so much of practical wisdom. Hope men read and benefit from it. This is a better way of using internet blogs.

    • Draper
      March 9, 2019 at 9:39 pm

      @Joe santus, Thanks for answering. However, I now have more questions than I started with.

      They all can be distilled to this one question. How did the human kind survived if we are so different between the genders and marriage was common for a long time or is it?

      • P Ray
        March 9, 2019 at 9:48 pm

        The “desire for the perfect man/woman” was tempered by the lack of widespread advertising about what such a person was like AND little social media where people spend their time comparing.

        That’s the main difference between then and now.

        I would say that the regular/ugly guy nowadays, is almost certainly “being settled for”, whoever they wind up with now.
        Women for example, hate virginity testing or their previous romantic history being known, even to their husband … but always tell him “You have to be honest with me and don’t keep any secrets because in a relationship we tell each other everything”.

      • Draper
        March 9, 2019 at 10:01 pm

        That’s the main difference between then and now.

        What do you mean by the words was tempered by the lack of widespread advertising?

        I am sorry but, it’s very hard to understand what you are saying.

      • March 10, 2019 at 10:20 am

        “How did the human kind survived if we are so different between the genders and marriage was common for a long time or is it?”

        My conclusion about how we humans have survived to now despite the incompatibilities between the genders is summed up by my quip, “One of th’ cosmos’ cruel pranks is pairing heterosexual reproduction with incompatible sexes”.

        Our instinctual urges for sexual satisfaction, for bearing children, and for nurturing our children have inevitably overcome our incompatibility. Despite the historically-evident, objective, rational conclusion that, “Men and women can’t really get along happily for more than briefly if at all”, those instincts drive the majority of us to be with the other gender.

        Instead of subordinating our instincts to our rationality and facing reality, those instincts are strong enough to, apparently, lead us to employ our rationality to conceal or at least distort the reality. As societies, as collectives, even as individuals, we create narratives which excuse, minimize, humorize, ignore, or outright deny reality, and which substitute idealized fantasies of “the-way-we-wish-it-was, or, ought-to-be” (often utilizing theism to support and even enforce acceptance of the fantasies).

        As naive, idealistic young people, we’re typically susceptible to the fantasies; we’ve often believed and acted upon them, and are well-entangled in relationships, before discovering the reality.

        Marriage, in various forms, and similar long-term commitments seem to be the nearly-universal “lesser-of-the-evils” compromise between our instinctual urges (for sex, offspring, and nurturing of offspring) and our incompatibility of genders.

        Marriage and its equivalents have served as that “uneasy truce” between men and women, in their attempt to fulfill their instincts as a species which reproduces heterosexually and bears altricial offspring, yet who are as different as cats and dogs.

        Before reliable-and-readily-available contraception, and before societal shifts enabling majorities of women to be economically-independent, that socially-sanctioned “uneasy truce” functioned “good enough” to satisfy at least many of each gender’s instinctual needs.

        Heck, ancient Greek and Roman writers described the same gender incompatibilities, even the same friction we experience today, evidencing it’s nothing new at all.

        As someone long before I was born explained “how” better than I can, “Because, you can’t live with ’em, but, you can’t live without ’em”.

      • Draper
        March 10, 2019 at 10:43 am

        That makes more sense. Thanks.

  18. Don
    March 10, 2019 at 8:52 am

    A friend of mine said something really wired tonight. We were at a club and one woman there was clearly an escort. I said to him that I bet $300 and she’ll be yours to lose your virginity. He in response said, “But she probably is poor, I don’t want to fuck my Uber driver so similarly I don’t want to fuck the underclass” I laughed at this. But deep down I know he meant it. I also knew that many men think like that. Yet, in their quest for royal, billionaire, supermodel pussy with excellent compatible personalities he’s going to go fucking a land whale possibly only after marrying her for lot more of a cost to him. I mean, this guy will never in a quadrillion years marry a royal. Funny eh?

    I think the explanation for this kind of thinking is that, according to some deluded dudes, a royal billionaire pussy is some how better than a super hot classy pussy with out the royal and billionaire parts everything else being equal.

    By the way, it’ll be interesting to hear you guys have take on this idea.

    • P Ray
      March 10, 2019 at 10:46 am

      Very simple take: The woman you can recognise as an escort, is probably aged enough that the guy finds it embarassing that that is what he can get by (affordable) amounts of money. I don’t think men go looking for model-level compatible pussy – because the guys that can get that can also easily replace her, and for free too – some even get the girls spending ridiculous amounts of money to keep him in the style he’s accustomed.

      One of the good deceptions women have going is the idea that all men have super-high standards, because it justifies:
      1. I can treat that guy like trash because he was going to dump me anyway later and
      2. At least the hot guys are “honest” by playing around, rather than a No. 1. guy who “gets his status raised by being with me, only to dump me for a hotter girl”.

      When the reality is simply: women don’t want to face up to the idea that they have a lot of control in relationships … because that would mean they are on the hook for their repeated piss-poor decisions

    • P Ray
      March 11, 2019 at 8:54 pm

      Lovely post from the old-timer Semonides of Amorgos:

    • Don
      April 6, 2019 at 5:03 am

      I wanted to leave this youtube video here.

      It focuses on the fact that Hugh Hefner’s most famous girlfriend Holly Madison was also partially homeless when she met Hefner of Playboy Magazine fame.

      • P Ray
        April 6, 2019 at 5:40 am

        It focuses on the fact that Hugh Hefner’s most famous girlfriend Holly Madison was also partially homeless when she met Hefner of Playboy Magazine fame.

        A reminder that for the regular/ugly guy, if you want to get (and keep) a girl, you have to hold something over her that is difficult for others to do or expensive for them to afford. And … it’s a lot easier to get the second girl, once you have the first.

        It also helps that Hefner was famous and probably monitored his home so that she wouldn’t be able to get away with false accusations so the only things she could say against him later was:

        1. he had an old person smell
        2. pets crapped where they wanted in the mansion
        3. he wasn’t that interested in sex

        By controlling the environment, he controlled the kinds of things she could say against him.

      • Don
        April 6, 2019 at 8:28 am

        >A reminder that for the regular/ugly guy, if you want to get (and keep) a girl, you have to hold something over her that is difficult for others to do or expensive for them to afford. And it’s a lot easier to get the second girl, once you have the first.

        Care to elaborate? What are some examples of things you can hold over her? Second girl, meaning?

      • P Ray
        April 6, 2019 at 3:58 pm

        In a contracting economy, regular/ugly men have spoken about how owning their own retail shop, not renting have made it easier for them to date younger, along with being authorities for awarding licenses, or holding off financial punishments.

        People can talk about true love, but the reality is all interactions are a transaction. And that women don’t want the regular/ugly guys to have options. Because that makes them demand/expect more from their current relationships. Which the women are only usually prepared to give to Chad.

        Also, a lot of women are fully aware that getting into the habit of being with non-Chads rewires the brain (just like how a woman usually around the regular/ugly guy … will in the end be with one of those, and not necessarily only after a string of Chads) to accept the regular/ugly guys – which is why they try to be around Chads if they can help it.

  19. Don
    March 11, 2019 at 10:30 pm

    P Ray said; “Make sure she doesn’t get citizenship.”;

    What if she finds another boyfriend(s) in the developed country where I am a citizen. Then what should I do?

    • P Ray
      March 11, 2019 at 11:33 pm

      You can’t get citizenship “just because you have a boyfriend” – there has to be a better legal bond than that, in the case of that Ukranian mother, she had a child with her boyfriend and not JUST the relationship with her boyfriend

      The scenario you are actually asking about is:
      What if she finds another boyfriend(s) AFTER she has had my child in the developed country where I am a citizen?

      Well, the chances are very good then that a singlemom she’s fucked, for a bunch of reasons:
      1.Men don’t like to pay for other men’s kids,
      2.The child will always remind that guy “You’re not my father”
      3.If the best the other guy can get is a singlemom, he won’t be very committed.
      4.If a woman with child thinks she can get a better deal, she is welcome to try!
      5.And if she can have a better deal than you, she must have been smoking hot, so like a pro dentist I hope you gave that hole lots of (cream)fillings!

    • P Ray
      March 11, 2019 at 11:53 pm

      Whoops, forgot
      6.The child is a constant reminder to her new boyfriend that “the guy she left, was the one she wanted to make a fucktrophy with”.

    • P Ray
      March 12, 2019 at 2:31 am

      For every guy who is not white and/or not attractive:
      When the women who ignored/rejected you earlier upon becoming older suddenly find you attractive
      they haven’t “matured” or “become kinder”.

      Their priorities just changed:
      From cock carousels, admin jobs without competition, man-shaming on facebook
      to
      desperation without a man to pay for everything, jobs needing actual skills and requests for bailouts.

      • Don
        March 12, 2019 at 3:37 am

        Wow. P Ray. You dropped some gold right there. Thanks bro. Cheers. Problems in life seem a lot less hard now.

        I don’t see hot girls I would like to fuck day to day except a very few at the club. I always had the problem of figuring out why there is a scarcity of hot girls I’d like to fuck. It seems like Escorts were the best option all along.

        With the method you mentioned above, I can have any hot women I want right from the devloping world which if we are being honest is where the hotttest women live.

        Thanks again bro. You are the coolest.

      • P Ray
        March 12, 2019 at 4:06 am

        ^ Also remember, the reason the woman has to have a legal anchor to her via a kid and not just “He’s my boyfriend” …
        nowadays,
        the only (certain) way women can get in trouble with the law or receive punishment is if they have a child.

        Do anything against a man or another woman, no guarantee there will be custodial or punitive punishments.

        That’s one thing a smart country does: Having a child with the man, is the only legal anchor to the new country, not just being “the girlfriend”.

        Be very wary about the women that want to be your girlfriend without getting knocked up or request your help without allowing you to get physical.

        P.S. The last paragraph, never mention that on social media. People getting their degrees have pointed out how women need to repay men who do things for them via sex … and are getting expelled from universities and colleges for “being predatory” or “not holding to our ethical values”.

        You can only discuss the black pill after your education is complete and/or when you have a business and/or passive income of your own.

      • P Ray
        April 7, 2019 at 8:25 am

        Looks like I was wrong when I said the only (certain) way women can get in trouble with the law or receive punishment is if they have a child..

        They can also get in trouble … when they impinge on other women! Amazing, but that’s what women get when they demand supremacy.

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6896071/British-mother-55-faces-jail-Dubai-branding-ex-husband-idiot.html
        British mother, 55, has her passport confiscated and faces jail in Dubai three years after she branded her ex-husband an ‘idiot’ and his new wife a ‘horse’ on Facebook
        British mother, 55, faces jail in Dubai after branding her ex-husband an ‘idiot’
        Laleh Sharavesh was arrested along with her 14-year-old daughter Paris (centre and top right) when she arrived in the Arab kingdom for her ex’s funeral last month. She discovered her husband’s second wife (left) had complained about the social media post (bottom right) from 2016 and Laleh was held under Dubai’s strict cyber crime laws. While her 14-year-old daughter was allowed to return home to Britain, Laleh, 55, has been banned from leaving the country as her passport has been confiscated. Lawyers have told the single mum she faces up to two years in jail and a fine of £50,000 when she appears in court later this week. Her ordeal began on March 14 when Laleh and her daughter flew to Dubai’s for her ex husband Pedro’s funeral. He died aged 51 from a heart attack on March 3 and Laleh and her daughter, from Richmond upon Thames, Surrey, wanted to pay their final respects.

        The Westernised Asian / Arabic / Persian woman … is usually very surprised to discover that the impunity she enjoys, only applies when she stays away from other countries and their laws.

  20. P Ray
    March 13, 2019 at 12:11 pm

    Excellent tip to remember about asking dating advice of any woman calling herself “feminist” or any woman who says “men are the problem”:
    Feminist advice is
    1.constant goal post shifting until any attempt to approach women is immoral
    but
    2.not trying to approach women is seen as entitlement.

    • Don
      March 17, 2019 at 7:59 am

      @P Ray; I am fucking escorts about once a week. The problem is that I don’t have any girl to bring home or to friends. That is a big problem as they all want me to show them my girlfriend. What would you do?

      • P Ray
        March 17, 2019 at 8:52 am

        Well …
        a.if you think your “self-worth” is going to be defined by your girlfriend, then you might hold on to a bad relationship just to be seen as “respectable”.
        b.on the other hand, a look at a lot of those “don’t give a fuck” guys shows that they don’t care if they change women – women are replaceable – and the women don’t seem to mind.

        I think better go for b. Just shamelessly escort.

        Remember, the relationship with an escort is more honest than that with (most) girlfriends.

      • Don
        March 17, 2019 at 8:57 am

        Thanks. So, you suggest that I ignore my families requests to show them my girlfriend?

      • P Ray
        March 17, 2019 at 9:34 am

        Nope. Show them all your girlfriends.
        Your parents will eventually let slip the bait: “Maybe you’ll be the one he finally settles down with”.
        And women’s competitive instinct (without basis in reality) takes over.

        Have no shame in what you do, after all, your parents gave you their looks. So they set your difficulty level, you have to adapt as best you can by whatever means.

      • P Ray
        March 17, 2019 at 9:38 am

        Your reference:
        Dalrock article: “Is Marcos evil for conning women looking to trade sex for financial security?”, archived here: http://archive.is/PQ9IE

        It’s not as if the girls you meet (if you are a regular/ugly guy) have spent their life preparing to be loyal to only one guy or are virgins.

        The dating market is now a “transaction market”. Don’t be with a woman who has a long list of qualifiers for you, or excludes a lot of physical behaviour, jokes or groping in public – because that just means she thinks you are below her.

  21. Don
    March 15, 2019 at 2:11 am

    I once asked what is wrong with Aaron Sleazy from you. What you said in return was eye opening and an all round great reply. That cleared all my doubts about game, anti-game and mostly how much of a bullshitter is Aaron Sleazy.

    Moreover, can you take a few moments to dispel some more wisdom about the similar PUA character named Cory Skyy. If you know his stuff, please comment on what he says being correct or not.Thanks.

    • Don
      March 15, 2019 at 2:12 am

      I would love it if you can comment a bit about what he calls eye game and its effectivity.

      • P Ray
        March 18, 2019 at 10:48 am

        PUA works when you’re allowed to “play the game”.
        If not, it won’t.

        Perhaps this gallery will give you an understanding of that situation.
        https://imgur.com/a/tEljNwT

      • Don
        March 18, 2019 at 6:38 pm

        Okay but almost no one is as ugly as those guys. So does that mean most guys have a chance.

      • Don
        March 18, 2019 at 6:39 pm

        By chnace I don’t mean one night stands.

      • P Ray
        March 19, 2019 at 2:51 am

        Okay but almost no one is as ugly as those guys. So does that mean most guys have a chance.

        Most guys have a chance with most girls after most girls have had their chance with the top 10% guys and didn’t manage to hold his attention.

        You must understand that how much you’re allowed to get away with, is an indicator of how attractive you are.

        Also remember, sexual harassment laws were put in place to make it difficult for ugly guys to interact with attractive girls.

        Remember the golden rules:
        Feminist advice is
        1.constant goal post shifting for regular/ugly men until any attempt to approach women is seen as immoral, abusive or offensive to women
        but
        2.regular/ugly men not trying to approach women is seen as entitlement, patriarchal and sinister.

      • Don
        March 19, 2019 at 4:11 am

        Okay. You answered all my questions and that led me to adapt your ideas already. I know enough now to understand what I need to do. I don’t want to fuck 30 year olds. But you mentioned that not approaching is considered entitled. Why?

      • P Ray
        March 19, 2019 at 8:16 am

        But you mentioned that not approaching is considered entitled. Why?

        The only guys that do not get called “entitled” when they don’t approach … are guys that the girls are already attracted to.

        The way dating works is for regular/ugly guys to get the ideas repeatedly bashed into their heads:
        1.you are not attractive, so you have to pamper any woman you are interested in, and
        2.never deny your attention to any woman because of #1, and if required, assist them for free otherwise you are a creep.

        That is why a confident regular/ugly guy is “creepy”: because he doesn’t bow down to women.

        The attractive guy can say “Woman, get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich” and people will say he is joking.

        The UN-attractive guy can say “Woman, get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich” and he is a dangerous misogynist that must be reported to the police.

        Carefully understanding where you fit, and pretending to ignore women asking for favours, or even going away without saying anything, is the way to peace. If they won’t offer up the gash, you don’t lift a finger to help them. No need to verbalise that though, that gets guys in trouble. If you put it in words, “you are a sexual predator”. If you keep quiet, “you are a jerk”.
        The reactions people give you are different depending upon whether you are a “sexual predator” or a “jerk”.

      • Don
        March 19, 2019 at 8:27 am

        Right. Got it thanks.

  22. Clueless Virgin
    March 26, 2019 at 8:52 am

    Can having a lot of male and or female friends be considered an antidote to the feeling of loneliness and being alone?

    • P Ray
      March 26, 2019 at 8:29 pm

      Make sure you’re not being used as a
      1.”popularity prop” (look, I am even friends with this person that others don’t want to, I am such a saint) or
      2.”lightning rod” (let’s hear this guy air his views on women, he’s so angry but so pathetic, let him vent, takes the heat off of Chad Thundercock enjoying the double standard of behaving and thinking the same way … yet gets rewarded for his looks).

      The only way having a lot of female friends is a benefit, is if they are friends with benefits.

      Outside of a very rare set of circumstances to get a job done, having female friends is actually a hindrance, not a help, as:
      1.few women actually want to help regular/ugly guys meet their friends – while those friends are still nubile, disease- and debt-free
      2.the women that are introduced to you via female friends are usually (unstated) on the rebound from having been pumped and dumped by Chad.

      • Clueless Virgin
        March 26, 2019 at 11:25 pm

        On the same token of loneliness, what about having male friends in old age?

      • Clueless Virgin
        March 27, 2019 at 1:31 am

        Sorry for asking. That made no sense after I asked it. Yes, it makes sense to have male friends.

      • Don
        April 6, 2019 at 5:10 am

        Loneliness in old age is a non argument. You’ll be better off hiring staff to take care of you than a wife. Then when the robbers come after the old age pensioners, they’ll only have to kill one person and not two where by they get both you and your wife. Besides protection, there is no other reason to call the loneliness at old age argument at all. Scientists are adamant that you can feel lonely in a marriage as well. So there is the problem with out any outright solution.

  23. Draper
    March 29, 2019 at 8:08 am

    I believe Dan Bilzerian has promoters and the such bringing him girls for -get this- photoshoots. I am almost certain he has sex with far less women than he does photoshoots with.

    That being said, can you explain why being monied is the main reason he is living that lifestyle of sorts?

    • P Ray
      March 29, 2019 at 8:25 pm

      I am almost certain he has sex with far less women than he does photoshoots with.
      Dan Bilzerian is trying to make himself a marketing “influencer” lifestyle. As a man to do so he has to be seen as sexually desirable and popular. Instagram by removing adult content means we never get to see (his) penis in (her) vagina. I am very certain the women attending his parties have to sign Non-Disclosure Agreements.

      But actually Bilzerian being seen as #1 really shows off the cuckery of the USA.

      Instead, look at Travers Beynon. Multiple relationships, actually married, parades women on leashes … and women keep turning up to his parties which are almost all women …

      Bilzerian is trying to keep not having to use his own money(or as little as possible), and a rental economy where high-end properties, cars and electronics can be had is the perfect way to build the idea that you have plenty of money … without spending very much.

      When he gets older, Bilzerian will have several options:
      1. become a PUA “guru”.
      2. become a business “consultant”.
      3. become a “motivational speaker”.

      That being said, can you explain why being monied is the main reason he is living that lifestyle of sorts?
      He’s trying to get a job with multiple employers as the edgy face of their brand. The problem is very few can get behind him to give the public a (consumer-goods) pounding, as women make up most of the consumers in the world. If he does become a spokesman, it will be for an alcohol, clothing, watches, perfume or performance car company – the luxury goods section.

  24. P Ray
    March 30, 2019 at 11:54 am

    This is another reason why women fear men who are logical, and flock to men who are reactive and impulsive. The logical ones calculate the cost …

    • Draper
      March 31, 2019 at 12:45 am

      You didn’t add the cost to up keep a woman. Food, Makeup, Childcare, Vacations and shit all adds up to a lot. A lot more than an escort a week would ever add up to. Don’t succumb to the illusion of wives or a wife.

      • Draper
        March 31, 2019 at 12:57 am

        Food and makeup alone should be more compared to an escort.

      • P Ray
        March 31, 2019 at 9:04 am

        It becomes very easy to understand why many women like abusive men, they are the only ones who regularly call them out on their crap*
        *However it is no coincidence that many of the men women call abusive, are men who can easily replace the woman they’re with … women only tolerate behaviour to the level of abuse, when the guy is hard to replace, makes her girlfriends jealous and keeps the drama going.

  25. Don
    April 6, 2019 at 5:06 am

    The video below shows playboy playmates then and now which sometimes indicates a differences of several decades between first and last photos. It goes to show how bad of an investment is marriage since the woman grows ugly as they age. This is in comparison to the men she dated who grows more richer as they age.

    • Don
      April 6, 2019 at 5:06 am

      It is outright disgusting to see all the women ones they have aged.

  26. Clueless Virgin
    April 6, 2019 at 8:31 am

    What do you think about the legal situation with hiring escorts in Canada or any other Nordic model country and what if she makes a scene in the out-call hotel? Please answer.

    Nordic countries are not worth it, for many reasons beyond laws. Canada is fine, as long as you are in top 4-5 (by population) cities. Also no escort with half-a-brain and employed by even an half-decent agency will make a scene in hotels. I would however suggest that you avoid anglo-white escorts or even normal chicks- too much attitude and shitty appearance.

  27. Clueless Virgin
    April 6, 2019 at 11:36 pm

    Thanks for the answer AD. I have a friend I really care about. He is a player and therefore, has zero problems having women attracted to him. You’d normally call him a Chad. How do you convince him that he might be better off fucking escorts like you convicted me who is not a player at all?

    • Clueless Virgin
      April 6, 2019 at 11:37 pm

      *convinced

  28. Don
    April 7, 2019 at 6:15 am

    Just out of curiosity, what are some fantasies that you want to reenact with escorts but would never try out with a unpaid bitch?

  29. Don
    April 12, 2019 at 8:15 pm

    What do you think about YMMV and would the only way to experience good sex is to be with a woman who is truly into you and not an escort?

    • Don
      April 13, 2019 at 12:49 am

      Does the PSE really mean PSE?

      Yes and No. It really depends on the escort. If you want my advice, just stick to GFE.

    • Clueless Virgin
      April 13, 2019 at 8:28 am

      What is YMMV?

      Your Mileage May Vary. Basically a way to tell people that non-physical rapport may vary between customers.

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