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Large Corporations and Governments are the Real Clients for 23andMe

Over the past 3-4 years, many of you must have seen tons of advertisements (both in traditional and new media) for DNA testing services such as 23andMe, ancestry.com and many others who offer seemingly reasonably priced DNA testing services to help you find your “real heritage” and other liberal-idiot friendly bullshit. These ads usually contain some actor, often of mixed-ancestry, touting how he or she was able to find his or her “real roots” by taking a “simple DNA test” to the accompaniment of new-agey music and other bullshit advertising tropes. So.. what is going on? Why are these sociopathic entities (corporations which offer DNA testing services) interested in helping you “find your real ancestral roots” at apparently reasonable prices.

Think about it, a bit. What is in it for them? Also, how can so many business which offer the same or very similar services able to afford their extensive advertising campaigns and offer relatively inexpensive tests- and all of this while ostensibly operating under operating principle of making ever-increasing profit. Doesn’t smell right, does it? Now ask yourself, which other corporations have a similar business model. Let us start by talking about other corporations which offer “free” services to their average user such as Google, FakeBook, Twitter etc. How do they make their profits. Well.. by collecting and selling data about their users to corporations who want to extract more money from them via advertising or otherwise scamming them or those who want to surveil them for purpose of abuse and discrimination- in other words, various governmental agencies.

And this brings us the next logical question- what exactly has the so-called “genomic revolution” of past 20 odd years achieved? What I am about to tell you is not going to please idiots who believe in the fairly tale of technological progress. Long story short, the “genomic revolution” of past two decades has been a costly and hilarious failure- as far as delivery of original promises is concerned. See.. I am old enough to remember what was being promised in very-late 1990s, when I was in my early 20s. At the time, human (and other organism) genome sequencing was touted as to the magic key which would help us identify genes for common diseases, protein targets for new drugs, targeted cancer therapy, develop super crops and all sorts of other futuristic nonsense- not unlike what you hear for “artificial intelligence” today.

Things did not turn out that way.. to put it mildly. After a few years in early-2000s, it became painfully obvious that finding genes for common diseases such as various types of Heart Disease, Diabetes, Alzheimers etc was a fool’s errand. Even worse, the results cast doubt on what many so-called “experts” claimed to know about those diseases. At best, genomics helped us better understand and sub-classify rare single-gene diseases such as Cystic Fibrosis etc. Even the area in which genomics is most often touted to have “improved” disease management, namely anti-cancer therapy, has not seen worthwhile improvement in outcome for majority of patients. And oh.. vast majority of drug targets identified by genomics have proven to be totally worthless.

The point I am trying to make is that entire fields such as genomics, bioinformatics etc have not delivered even a small fraction of what was confidently promised in 1999. And ya.. I think we are going to see something similar happen to current DNA-editing technologies such as CRISPR and other hyped scam such as Gene Drive etc. Turns out that getting something to work properly and reproducibly in non-model systems outside the laboratory is a real bitch. Here is another insight.. technologies that were not hyped during their initial and often rocky development such as the modern computers and the internet, monoclonal antibody drugs, better use of existing drugs etc usually have a much larger impact than those hawked as (next) ticket to riches and utopia.

So why would large corporations and governmental agencies be interested in genomic data? Isn’t it almost completely useless? They can’t be that stupid.. right? Well.. let us start with the “are they that stupid” part. The answer to that question, sadly, is a resounding YES. The leaders and underlings of large corporations, you see, have to pretend that they are doing something useful while robbing those corporations. The simplest way to give the appearance of real work and making important decisions involves them promoting any shiny scam which is currently making rounds of the corporate circuit. This is why for example, corporate executives are always touting the newest management techniques, employing consultants, promoting mindfulness, talking about corporate responsibility, “making the world a better place” and all that BS.

Also, the vast majority of people who end up in the leadership of, or other high positions, in large institutions are very likely to be bad at anything other than lying, kissing ass, backstabbing and self-promotion. Look at how easily a CONartist such as Elizabeth Holmes was able to extract money, validation and support out of allegedly experienced and seasoned top ex-bureaucrats and CEOs. It never ceases to amuse me when I hear libertarian idiots (usually white guys who also believe in other scams such as “IQ”) try to explain their hilariously reverential mental image of corporations and other supposedly “meritocratic” institutions. The situation inside large institutions (private and public) has far more in common with the movie ‘Office Space‘ than the toilet-paper dispenser known as ‘Atlas Shrugged’.

But what does this have to do with not using DNA testing services to find your “real roots” . Well.. think of these services as corporate- and government- funded fronts for collecting your genomic metadata. But what harm could come from providing DNA samples, especially since genomics has turned out be a very expensive damp squib. As it turns out- a lot! The pretense of knowledge has, historically, caused much more problems than real insight into problems. In case of genomic metadata, this would translate into denial of “healthcare” insurance coverage in the third-world country of USA. Then there is the certainty of discrimination when applying for jobs, getting loans and many other interactions with corporations. Remember that their decisions and “algorithms” don’t have to be based in reality as long as they have more lawyers and money than you.

The abuse of genomic metadata by Governments will take a different direction. Don’t be surprised if the DNA of non-violent “troublemakers” starts to appear at the site of various unrelated violent crimes. Or government bureaucrats come up with some cockamamie scheme of classifying people based on bullshit data analysis performed by using “deep learning” techniques. In case you are wondering, police in USA still regularly plant fake evidence to imprison and convict black men and governments in the past have based large-scale policies (eugenics, the final solution, residential redlining and most rule/ laws passed in USA before 1965) on bullshit beliefs such as “inherent” superiority of some racial groups over others. In summary, there is no upside to getting your DNA tested to find you “real roots” or “true ancestry”. There are however many downsides to letting corporations and governments collect your genomic metadata.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. Conscience Constituent
    January 26, 2019 at 8:52 pm

    So,basically you are telling us that america is going back to eugenics.
    Lolololol,anglosaxons are subhuman scum.

    • P Ray
      January 27, 2019 at 11:05 pm

      Everywhere in the world is going back to eugenics.
      Observe how sexual harassment laws are only being obviously applied against men who “are not attractive to most women”.
      Look at how many bastards are being born.
      See how criminals are literally refused jail time because the cells are full.
      Watch women gain jobs they’re obviously not qualified for … and live longer than men … and call that oppression.

      It’s a worldwide thing.

  2. January 26, 2019 at 9:40 pm

    you know running the largest Whites Only bathhouse means I got the baby batter of the smartest white guys of our generation, Matt Forney, Aaron Clarey, Nathan Damigo, Richard Spencer et al. And even some non-whties like Milo Y and Rosh V. Getting the baby bater of one of you horrid Hindu Muffins will be a task but all we gotta do is get some desperate white woman and open up a wore house, then AD, we can use you spermie as DNA evidence for our next “hate crime” and get off scot free!

    So next time your baby batter goes to splatter with a nice tattooed white lady, you might be just given the Wolves of Vineland the DNA we so preciously need.

    Seig Hail !!!

    White Powder, er Power !!!

  3. Don
    January 26, 2019 at 9:42 pm

    I am following another blog at http://blog.aaronsleazy.com/index.php/2019/01/23/are-dna-tests-tearing-families-apart/ which talked about DNA tests as well. However, the author there thinks in terms of families been torn apart from the findings of such tests. The author is happy that families are torn apart. What do you think?

    • January 26, 2019 at 9:52 pm

      Aaron Sleazy is another pure white man on a MISSION to save the white race from Hindu Muffins !!!

      He used to sell PUA advice but found out he could make more money selling anti-PUA advice, don’t hate the playa, hate the game. Only a full blood white could figure out a con that good !!!

      • Don
        January 26, 2019 at 9:56 pm

        Is it possible that both his Anti-PUA advice as well as his PUA advice is worthless? Just curious to know your opinion.

      • January 26, 2019 at 10:01 pm

        “Is it possible that both his Anti-PUA advice as well as his PUA advice is worthless? Just curious to know your opinion.”

        As one of the progenitors of this here man-0-sphere, I gotta tell ya game don’t real… Us WN’s go sargin’ with Rosh V and Tyler Drudern’s accolytes and when “game” failed, we get ’em liquored up (don’t worry, just the white ones) and teach ’em gayme. Good thing Girl Writes What and the MRM have been doing their job because dudes can’t be raped unless it is by a woman. So, there’s that.

        Seig Hail !!!

        White Chowder, er Power !!!

      • Don
        January 26, 2019 at 10:07 pm

        I didn’t follow any of the things you said. That wasn’t English, isn’t it?

        I think you also cannot understand parody..

      • Don
        January 26, 2019 at 10:42 pm

        Yes, I don”t. Care to elaborate?

        He is making fun of somebody else by pretending to be that person and spoofing his ideology.

      • Don
        January 27, 2019 at 12:14 am

        Okay. But if both PUA and Anti-PUA doesn’t work, what does? Especially if you are average.

      • P Ray
        January 27, 2019 at 10:57 pm

        But if both PUA and Anti-PUA doesn’t work, what does? Especially if you are average.
        Having a controlling stake in a business or a country that has very tight laws to control foreign spouses so that their continued stay in the country means:
        1. they require the approval of the husband to continue being resident
        2. they cannot work as they are neither citizens nor permanent residents nor subject matter experts nor maids
        3. citizenship takes a very long time to achieve (exactly like in the USA) – see https://i.imgur.com/w8wFqQc.jpg

        4. you can only be employed – as an expatriate – when a high-paying field has a vacancy and you are selected.

        It’s the same as always – when you control opportunity, you control relationships … because all relationships are transactions.

  4. Larry
    January 27, 2019 at 6:16 am

    Dear DA,

    I would appreciate your career advice.

    I’m a (PhD) molecular biologist, without computational background, struggling to find work.

    Would you recommend a data science/machine learning bootcamp?

    I guess you think DS is a scam. Nevertheless, it seems that the job prospects are good, such as in digital health (another hype?)

    So what do you make of DS? And coding bootcams in general?

    Thanks,
    Your secret admirer

    Truth.. do a teacher certification. Even in USA, that job pays better and is far more stable.

    Coding is not a secure career, even if it pays more for the first few years.

    • asdf
      January 27, 2019 at 10:27 am

      Data science is not really new field, it’s really just an Ivy league MBA term for statistics. Yes there’s a bit of CS involved but not as much as people think.

      Note: I’m not a PhD holder in Microbiology, I barely have a meme bachelor’s degree, so you might have better luck than I did trying to get a job in DS. Also, my current job barely qualifies as a code monkey.

      As for those coding bootcamps, I would advise against them. 15k for a 3 month course seems like a scam, it’s basically a diploma mill by any other name.

      Btw do you watch that out of touch clown, Aaron Clarey’s videos? He seems to think you can just take some online classes and get a job as a machine learning engineer at Google.

      • P Ray
        January 27, 2019 at 11:01 pm

        In some cases Aaron Clarey is an idiot.
        Because a proper A.I. qualification … is one step higher than a C.S. qualification.

        And proper C.S. qualifications … have 90% dropout rates.

        However, because of racism you may discover people who took 7 years to finish a 3 year degree … have better job prospects than you in the field.

        Not an issue if you already prepared for that earlier and had a business to fall back on. Remember, what people call paranoid, I call prepared 🙂

    • asdf
      January 27, 2019 at 11:04 am

      Also if you have no experience whatsoever in any cs field and you’re desperate for a job, my advice would be to learn ‘ugly’ and ‘outdated’ languages like php and javascript (certain javascript frameworks/libraries). These languages are essential for 75% of websites on the internet including the one we’re using now.

      With regards to the topic of this thread, it was obvious that 23andme was just selling data to the government like all major tech companies. Interesting how a lot of high iq alt-right/stormfronters willingly gave their dna data to the government.

      Members of the master race:

  5. lurker
    January 28, 2019 at 1:54 pm

    Hello Mr. AD,

    I apologize for putting my comment here although I couldn’t find a contact page or email address on your blog (perhaps I missed it).

    In a post called Why Frugality is a BAD Idea: 1 you made the following remark:

    “It is possible to provide infrastructure, food, education, housing, transportation, healthcare and communication of a quality and abundance that exceeds what an affluent person living in a ‘developed’ country currently enjoys to every single person on this earth. All of this can be done without ‘exhausting resources’ or any of that dying white dog-in-the-manger bullshit.”

    Would you please do a post explaining how this would be possible?

    It is already occurring. Look at the improvements in quality of life for people who live in most of the world over past four decades.

  6. Conscience Constituent
    January 28, 2019 at 2:30 pm

    • P Ray
      January 29, 2019 at 2:56 am

      Is there a similar exclusion clause if a woman calls a man (as it is spelt)”napunsak”?
      It seems the “misogynistic” culture of India allows women to kill their husbands. Very interesting indeed.

  7. Rum
    January 28, 2019 at 4:46 pm

    The best comment I have read about this stated, more or less, that they (supposedly) started out expecting to find a small number of genes linked to specific health outcomes and large numbers that proved how similar humans are under the skin. What has been coming out has been pretty much the opposite. Very, very few causal genes and big differences across continental breeds. It takes surprisingly few test areas to tell what a person looks like, broadly. The cops love this shit. Who knows what the big guys are doing.
    You guys know that 23&Me is google, right?

  8. January 28, 2019 at 9:23 pm

    “Okay. But if both PUA and Anti-PUA doesn’t work, what does? Especially if you are average.”

    Notice the tactics Bryan Singer used and got away with for so long. We employ ’em successfully at the Wolves of Vineland. Wonder why us nazi’s always have youth camps? Well, sharks gotta eat..

    Roosh V and that (((jewy))) Haertiste dudebro watered down our techniques for converting str8 white guys and sold it as “game.” Well, if you are a white guy, I can teach ya “game.” Otherwise be like advocactus diaproli and pay white wimmins to touch yer luv worm!!!

    Seig Hail !!!

    14 eighty (n0t)Str8 !!!

  9. Weekend Goth
    January 29, 2019 at 2:01 pm

    Here’s another fun fact about Aaron Sleazy: Like every other good white nationalist he’s in a relationshit with an Asian chick and has serious plans to procreate with her (never mind about that future hapa son’s pain, eh?). He also let her post on his blog where she condecendingly labels men as ‘beta’. Quite odd, since almost all chicks have no buisness commenting on male issues. Additionaly, Aaron Sleazepig started to show off his jew-wiseness:

    “Our mutual advancement? If you look at the warmongering the Jewish liberal elites have been engaging in over the centuries, it’s probably not inappropriate to “feel upset”. Now, if you’re a liberal dipshit who is quick to shout “Nazi”, then do a few minutes of research and look up who has been financing the great wars. Start with the Rothschild family and their importance for the Napoleonic wars. From there, branch into any direction you want. You’ll always come across Jews.”
    http://www.aaronselias.com/2018/03/24/thoughts-on-jordan-peterson-v-the-jewish-question/

    “Just look into communist terror in Weimar Germany in the 1920s and 1930s! Hitler’s NSDAP cleaned up that mess. Had the communists, with their Jewish leadership, not overplayed their hand so much, history would have played out much differently. (Oh, if you’re an uneducated leftist dipshit who wants to shout “Nazi” or “Anti-Semite”, then read up on Jewish involvement in Bolshevism and communism.) On the other hand, the Nazis eventually also overplayed their hand.”
    http://www.aaronselias.com/2018/04/10/death-wish-1974-and-death-wish-2018-as-timely-critical-social-commentary/

    I’m a bit out of the loop: Did The Daily Stormer disappear once and for all? Maybe that’s one reason why shitposters like Sleazebag attempt to fill that void and try to attract their audience from that corner.

    He is just spoofing Jack Donovan..

    • Don
      January 29, 2019 at 8:44 pm

      Thanks. Aaron Sleazy always seemed a bit -well, sleazy. Now I know why.

      • Don
        January 29, 2019 at 8:45 pm

        May I ask whether his main tenet of game which is that there is some higher quality of man that attracts all women while other men drool over the same women is also wrong?

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