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Some More Thoughts about Recent Arrest of Julian Assange in London

In the previous post on this topic, I wrote about how exposure of information by Wikileaks (and others inspired by it) has permanently damaged the only remaining ruling mandate for elites in western countries. In case you are wondering, that was Assange’s goal from the very beginning- and he has succeeded. If you don’t believe my take on what he has achieved, let me remind you about how things were in 2008. At that time, most people still thought Bush43’s presidency was an anomaly and everything would return back to how it was in the 1990s. They also believed that Obama would become the next FDR and reign in financialism. Did I mention the hilarious part where almost everyone believed that internet monopolies such as Google, FakeBook, Amazon etc were the greatest thing since sliced bread and could do no wrong. Simpler times indeed..

Then many seemingly unexpected things started to occur in quick succession. First, there was the global financial crisis which began in late 2008, which lead to multi-trillion dollar bailouts for ‘too-big-to-fail’ financial institutions and corporations. Of course, everybody else (aka the 99 %) got screwed and Obama turned out be the black version of Reagan rather than FDR. It slowly became obvious that the 1990s were never going to come back. And then it got worse as entire sectors of the economy got hollowed out- at an even faster pace than before. More problematically, almost all of the new jobs created since then have been precarious and poorly paid. My point is that, it is hard to understand the full impact of Wikileaks unless you first appreciate the socio-economic-political climate into which it was born.

I first wrote about Wikileaks a long time ago (link 1 and link 2) and my initial assessments about it proved to be correct. Not surprisingly, the MSM attitude towards Wikileaks and Assange has not changed since 2010. At that time, I also made another comment about Assange which turned out to be far more prescient than I initially realized. Since 2010, the many archives of documents released by Wikileaks and Snowden have had a profound impact on how people in the west perceive their own governments and civic institutions. Today nobody pretends that the NSA doesn’t exist or that USA-based internet monopolies such as Google, FakeBook, Amazon etc are anything other than commercial arms of the (rapidly failing) american empire. In 2008, you would have been considered delusional for publicly stating that almost all journalism in USA is elite stenography, even after their almost unanimous support for the failed occupation of Iraq in 2003.

We also cannot ignore what happened in the rest of the world during that period and the impact of Wikileaks on public discourse in those countries. Let me remind you that Wikileaks is by far the single biggest reason USA was not able to keep a significant military presence in Iraq after 2009. Its revelations also did an incredible amount of permanent damage to public image of western countries in other parts of the world. After they were made public, very few people in countries such as China, Russia etc could keep pretending that the american system of governance and institutions was any less repressive and problematic than their own. These leaks have also sped up the process of making the internet and communications (in general) more decentralized and much less USA- or west-centric. In short, Wikileaks achieved a decent percentage of its original objectives- so far. And ya.. it did contribute to the defeat of HRC in 2016.

As you also know, the declining vassal states of Sweden and UK cooked up a stupid and highly counterproductive scheme to arrest Assange and extradite him to USA since 2010. In my opinion, this stupid scheme was stupid and short-sighted. Then again, elites throughout human history have never shown themselves to be good at long-term and strategic thinking. And this type of malfunction is intrinsic to large hierarchical and impersonal social systems- as I have also written about in previous posts such as this one. Here is another one which explains how these systemic shortcomings play out in other large systems. To put it another way, the whole idea of trapping Assange within that embassy for 7 years was an incredibly stupid idea. But why, specifically, was it so dumb? Well.. because it made him into a larger-than-life (almost religious) figure while simultaneously shredding the public credibility of western countries.

The thing is.. people universally understand that a person trying to persecute somebody for their personal beliefs is an acknowledgement of your own weakness. For example, if some obviously mentally-ill guy across the street kept shouting that you were the anti-christ, people around you would either ignore it or find it amusing. Nobody would believe the guy making those claims. Now imagine if you responded to those claims by trying to get the guy, making them, killed. People would rightly think that those claims were actually correct and that you were indeed the anti-christ. This dynamic is part of the reason why scandals which would sink conventional politicians, many times over, have no worthwhile effect on Trump’s popularity. He simply does not care enough about them to give a conventional explanation or response.

If the elites in USA, UK and Sweden etc had any ability to think beyond the short-term, they would have handled the Assange situation very differently. Firstly, they would have realized and accepted that somebody like Assange and Wikileaks was as inevitable in the internet age as Martin Luther and Protestantism were in the aftermath of movable-type printing being invented- or the ‘One’ arising in the Matrix. And yes.. I also wrote a post about this issue in that past. Secondly, the most optimal way to handle somebody like Assange was to watchfully ignore him- thereby denying him martyrhood. Sure.. he would keep leaking document archives and causing some problems. But guess what.. he ended doing that stuff anyway.

Persecuting Assange made the USA, UK, Sweden etc look just as repressive and incompetent as the countries and regimes they claim to be superior to. Or as I call it, scoring repeated self-goals. But why does it matter? Well.. because, as I mentioned in the previous post, the ruling mandate of elites in west is derived from abstract ideas such as being perceived as honest, democratic, competent, meritocratic etc. This is in sharp contrast to a nation like China, where the elites derive their legitimacy from providing real, concrete and measurable improvements in physical quality of life for their citizens. This is also why persecuting somebody like Assange is far more damaging to western-style governmental systems than imprisoning a dissident is to China.

Will write more on this as events unfold..

What do you think? Comments?

  1. MikeCA
    April 16, 2019 at 12:46 pm

    “Let me remind you that Wikileaks is by far the single biggest reason USA was not able to keep a significant military presence in Iraq after 2009.”

    Oh come on.

    The reason that the US was not able to keep a significant military presence in Irag was that the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) had put their plan to create a ‘global Pax Americana’ on the internet. Iraqis could read it and see the US was building bases that looked like the permanent bases the plan advocated. Bush and his toddies denied they were doing it, but the plan the neocons had made before Bush got elected was on the PNAC website for all to see.

    The neocons just didn’t understand how the rest of the world viewed US military intervention. The Pentagon papers and the post Watergate Church Committee investigations had thoroughly soured the world on US military intervention. Even it Wikileaks had never existed, the US would never have been able to keep significant military presence in Iraq after 2009.

    Are you so sure? Note the dates. Also, these are establishment mouthpieces and even they cannot pretend that Wikileaks didn’t speed up the end.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2010/10/22/130760662/wikileaks-begins-exposing-400-000-u-s-documents-about-the-iraq-war

    and

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/10/the-impact-of-the-wikileaks-war-logs/343703/.

  2. Jesper
    April 16, 2019 at 2:20 pm

    Can you write about the effects of the latest us prez’s economic policy on China?

    What can I write about another american policy that is bound to fail and (in doing so) accelerate its own decline and growing irrelevance?

    • Jesper
      April 16, 2019 at 4:18 pm

      Then can you write about what effects the latest Us policy decisions will have on south american countries,especially considering that Brazil’s bolsanaro and other south american prime ministers are trying to curry favor with the current administration?

  3. Yusef
    April 16, 2019 at 4:56 pm

    I also don’t see why you have to insist on the strong and in my opinion exaggerated version of Wikileaks’ effects on American politics and foreign policy. Why isn’t it enough to just say Wikileaks’ work has been significant?

    I also don’t really know if you can claim the US has ever departed from Iraq or that it was unable to create permanent military installations there. As far as I can see, both are false. At the very least you should provide some sort of documentation supporting your statements.

    Assange has obviously been harmed physically and emotionally by being imprisoned in the embassy, though probably less so than if extradited to the loving kindness of America.

    Whatever else they may be, the Trump people are not ham-fisted when it comes to spin, PR, and reading the collective ugliness of the American people. It is likely only those on the fringe– those who can be safely ignored– pay truly close attention to Assange and Wikileaks.

    For comparison, look at Snowden. He revealed things the connedservatives understood to be valuable to know and they still hated his guts. They don’t seem to remember either him or what he revealed, either. He’s somewhere shitty and trapped and why isn’t that making him a martyr, too?

    You might also want to provide reasons why Wikileaks was able to end US involvement in Iraq but not Afghanistan. It seems to me if Wikileaks could do it for Iraq, it would have done it for Afghanistan, too. And hey, what about the drone strikes? What about all the sub-invasion military onslaughts and maneuvers, here there and everywhere?

    Wikileaks shed light on all this crap and yet it goes on and on and if anything attracts less and less attention as the years roll in and out and away.

  4. April 17, 2019 at 10:44 am

    Off Topic but an emergency post for anyone who has posted at Fist In the Face of Misandry, they might try to doxx you:

    https://stonerwithaboner.wordpress.com/2019/04/17/emergency-post-do-not-trust-anyone-from-the-pro-male-collective-under-any-circumstances/

    Must read for anyone who has unfortunately dealt with TamerLame/Analyzing Male Slavery/Fist in the Face of Misandry.

    • P Ray
      April 17, 2019 at 10:38 pm

      I remember saying earlier that Tamerlame was an enemy to any man wanting to oppose feminism.
      Looks like some people didn’t take my warning seriously, lol.

      • April 18, 2019 at 10:31 am

        You did say that. He is also a racist too. His lap dog Kirea always talk about how bad “white men” have things while saying minority/mixed race men get free rides from affirmative action. Also, another piece of useful info, his sidekick Male Sentient Void goes to protests against circumcision. All good, right? Nope, he uses it as a vehicle to try to pick up sex positive feminist womyn. Bill Price anyone?

    • P Ray
      April 17, 2019 at 10:41 pm

      Ah, here it is (and it has to do with the hypocrisy of MGTOW):
      The male version of “so-called” MGTOW is actually …
      white guys going to have sex with non-white women (paid or not), and saying it is “going their own way”.
      If an Asian guy tries to have sex with a white woman (paid or not), the white guys who make up the majority of MGTOW, tell the Asian guy he is “pussy begging” and “has no dignity”
      special reference to Tamerlame and Ergeniz

  5. April 17, 2019 at 11:20 am
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