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Anti-Abortion Movement is Destined to Lose and Become Irrelevant: 2

In the previous part of this series, I wrote about how the modern anti-abortion movement is going to end up like the failed, dead and forgotten temperance movement. Historically speaking, movements which originate in dying and declining regions of the world tend to almost always fail. Moreover, the extent of brain-dead religiosity necessary to believe in that bullshit is rapidly declining, even in retarded parts of the world such as USA. Both of these are, however, fairly minor in comparison to the other reasons which will doom that movement. To make matters more interesting, these reasons are far more systemic than the previously mentioned ones.

So let us enumerate the other reasons why the anti-abortion movement will become irrelevant..

In the previous part, I made a reference to how the modern anti-abortion movement’s origin in ex-slave owning, still impoverished and dying southern states would lead to its demise. But what are the mechanics of such a demise? Also, would it be a stand-alone phenomena or part of a much larger trend? Well.. let me ask you a seemingly unrelated question. Do you remember how, in the 1990s, many american idiots deluded themselves into believing that the rest of the world would become like them. I remember an era when rags-of-record such as the NYT and WP were full of opinion pieces masquerading as “news” which imagined a future where american brands and corporations such as McDonalds, KFC, Pizza Hut etc would prevail all over the world.

So how did that work out? While it might to tempting to attribute their failure in the global marketplace to american incompetence (partially true) or protectionism by other countries (also, partially true)- the meta reason for their abject failure outside USA (and vassal states like Canada or Australia) is far more basic. The product and services which they offered were simply inferior to local alternatives. I could never understand why, for example, american fast food corporations thought they had any chance in countries with decent indigenous culinary traditions- because most ‘american’ food tastes like salty flavorless crap. Similarly, it was hard to understand why Walmart and Target believed that they have any real hope in larger Asian countries.

But what does any of this have to with the anti-abortion movement meeting its demise? Let me put it this way- why would someone in Singapore, China or India eat American fast food when equivalently priced local offerings are vastly superior in taste and quality? Why would women in affluent and densely populated coastal states such as NY, CA, WA or even FL crimp their access to abortion and want to live as they reside in shitty, dying ex-slave owning states? An inferior option will always be rejected by most people unless enforced by legislation. Think about it this way.. why would anybody with more than half-a-brain want to keep living in shitty backward states? Now take that idea to the next step- who would want to move and work in those states?

One of the problems with running corporations that do stuff other than pack meat or assemble low-end automobiles is that you have to hire people with a minimum degree of competence. But what happens if the people you require to run the organisation cannot be found in a given part of the country? But surely, not everybody will desert those forsaken states and move to another part of the country. Well.. they don’t have to because even a gradual but continuous loss of talent is enough to ruin areas with an adverse demographic profile (think East Germany). More importantly, middle and upper management of corporations do not want to be associated with racist stupid white trash. Also why rich CONservatives are based in NY, CA or DC.

The gradual loss of talent and any remaining physical manifestations of success leads to the next reason why that movement is doomed. Almost nobody wants to be associated with repulsive losers and their ideologies. Ever wondered why most people today don’t want to identify as Nazis or hood-wearing racists? Remember that Nazism was once popular in many countries outside pre-WW2 Germany, including USA. The same is true for racists movements such as KKK. Long story short, those movements are not popular today because they lost (and not because of moral revulsion). The most ardent supporters of anti-abortion movement are on the losing side of history- for a number of social, cultural and economic trends beyond their control.

So let us talk about those reasons. While women have been aborting since the beginning of time, modern methods of abortion started coming into existence around the beginning of 20th century, though some came online as late the 1980s. Some might have noticed that this era coincidences with gaining the right to vote and entry of women into the workplace. There is also a reason that most countries legalized abortion between 1950s and 1970s. Hint: it is about women entering and staying in the workplace in ever larger numbers and irreversible breakdown of CONservative “family values”. The single biggest factor which drove the legalization of abortion is the need for Capitalism to extract an every increasing amount of value from workers. I cannot resist pointing out the irony of CONservatives decrying one of the major routes for expansion of Capitalism in 20th century.

Which brings me to another related reason for inevitable failure of the anti-abortion movement- an irreversible increase in Female agency. A lot of anti-abortion morons believe they have far more female support than they have in reality. See.. a significant minority of women might pretend to support the anti-abortion movement to look more virtuous, but it is just an empty display of virtue. Think of how Republicans tried to repeal Obamacare dozens of time only because they knew that it would be successfully vetoed. The vast majority of women who claim to support the anti-abortion movement will drop their support the moment it becomes obvious that such a measure might pass- even in shitholes such as Alabama and Georgia.

And don’t forget.. traditionally male-dominated jobs such as those in large factories, mines or involving hard physical work now constitute a minority of jobs. Now add in the fact that women can pick and choose the guy they want to sleep with and can make decent money without being married etc. Almost no woman below a certain age has any interest in changing the status quo- regardless of the party she voted for in last election. There is a reason why the most vocal female opponents of abortion rights are post-menopausal and osteoporotic white, black or hispanic women. The other supporters of the anti-abortion movement are obese and impotent southern white men, a group that is in irreversible decline and not especially popular. The remaining supporters of that doomed movement include mostly white young male losers who talk about traditional family values, but lack the job or looks to get women to have sex with them.

In other words, none of the groups who support the anti-abortion movement are ascendant. But there is one more reason why the anti-abortion movement is doomed to failure. Women of reproductive age are far more sympathetic than embryos and fetuses. Just wait till any of these stupid laws results in the death of a moderately photogenic (and white) woman with ectopic pregnancy, infections spreading to fetus, pre-eclampsia, infections due to botched attempts at abortions. You think that media goes overboard promoting the victims of mass shootings? You haven’t seen anything yet. Also, social media will amplify such tragedies in ways that stupid old southern losers cannot defend. Did I mention that every internet monopoly is run and staffed by people with pro-choice views. Of course, the anti-abortion losers are too delusional and stupid to understand how their actions will end up speeding the final public demise of that movement.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. Conscience Constituent
    May 22, 2019 at 6:35 pm

    Anti-abortion people are just low iq losers,with that said, why don’t you write anything about the fact that unlike women, men have no way to opt out of being parents?
    I know plenty of men from the past generation that got fucked this way and yet no one gives a shit,at times like this society has the nerve to even expect that the guy “man up” and marry the asshole that decided to make him a father against his will.

    After all you were just an angry incel,now that you have some money,some pussy and a bit of respect you would never make a peep about how men get shafted in society.

  2. Joe
    May 22, 2019 at 10:16 pm

    I think you underestimate the power of American Fast Food chains in foreign countries other than the US. American Fast Food chains are booming business in the Middle East, and predominantly, non-Western countries. I am surprised that you failed to do adequate research on that. KFC is a booming business in Kuwait. McDonalds is a booming business in Brazil.

    I use a different metric for success, namely what percentage of money spent on eating out is spent at those chains. Also countries in ME are pipsqueaks compared to rest of Asia.

    You are also overestimating the power of the anti-abortion stance. As long as America keeps importing people from religious countries (Latin America and the Middle East, and a lot of Asian countries), this adds more fuel to the anti-abortion stance. There’s a reason why this movement is skyrocketing now. This is nothing comparable to the gun control movement, because even the liberal elitists don’t want their guns confiscated.

    Funny thing is the kids of most people from religious countries end up very pro-choice. Also, the amount of older Hispanic women in places like Alabama and Georgia is quite low. This movement is all about loud old white religious nutcases.

    • May 23, 2019 at 8:09 am

      American fast food is booming in SE Asia. I’ve seen many McDonald’s, KFC, Pizza Hut, Jollibee, Krispy Kreme, Wendy’s, Buffalo Wild Wings, etc..

      Philippines is not the rest of East Asia.

      • May 23, 2019 at 2:34 pm

        Of course not. But I was actually referring to Southeast Asia – Thailand has a number of fast food restaurants as well.

  3. lalit
    May 22, 2019 at 11:51 pm

    Thought about a twitter feed?

  4. Orson
    May 23, 2019 at 4:11 am

    Anti-abortion has also creepy social implications. Babies being born without willing parents to raise them.

    In the short they will lose. In the long term western societies will be pressured by failing demographics in comparison to the other 2/3 of the world that give zero fucks about abortion and pop up babies like they are rats.

  5. Mega
    May 23, 2019 at 10:04 am

    My thoughts are this article could not be more wrong. I think that its likely that the abortion issue could be the juggernaut for a second civil war. Like Slavery was for the first. I actually think that “most” fly-over states are going to ignore the lies and hate spewed by the leftist media and implement restrictive anti-abortion laws … while NY and liberal east coast and Cali and the liberal left coast will continue to deny fathers any rights to their children and allow women to kill their own children any time they want … up until birth.

    You are welcome to believe whatever you want. The thing is.. doing so does not change the large scale trends and undercurrents in the real world.

    I think this will end up at the SCOTUS and will either end up with “fly-over” country revolting … like the South did over slavery (if they are told the leftists win) or with the man-hating leftists taking it on the chin and having their leftist agenda set back 50 years … which will only be the start of them being reigned in, which they will realize. No more favoring women over men, no more favoring minorities over whites, no more destroying the institution of marriage, etc. The real question is when that happens and I think it does … do they revolt as well? Because, speaking from fly-over country … we’d say GOOD RIDDANCE !!! And let them leave … Cali and the scum in Hollywood … don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. And … please, please, please make sure that you make global warming your #1 agenda … so you legislate yourselves out of existence.

    Anyway, that’s my thoughts. Abortion is the slavery issue that brings the leftist takeover to an end … one way or another.

    • May 23, 2019 at 1:43 pm

      Well…as a 63-yr-old who was old enough to witness the mid-1960s civil rights controversies, which included riots in major cities…Many in the South adamantly opposed the civil rights activism of that era, and, many then also fervently spoke of “revolt”…but as fervently opposed as those Southern states were, the civil rights activism succeeded yet, obviously, neither a revolt nor secession occurred.

      I live in rural mid-TN, by the way.

  6. Mega
    May 23, 2019 at 3:03 pm

    “You are welcome to believe whatever you want. The thing is.. doing so does not change the large scale trends and undercurrents in the real world.”

    Yes, sir. Exactly right. And thank you for giving me opportunity to express my views. Its called “Free speech” and in exercising my free speech I just pointed out that I think you are wrong and you respectfully said you disagree. And that’s cool. So, am I right ? Or are you right ? Can anyone predict the future ??? Can you ???

    I will say one other thing in my defense. I do, in fact, give huge props to “large scale trends and undercurrents in the real world” and yes that would be a quote. In accepting reality we both should also note that, society at large, typically acts like a pendulum and over shoots its intended target. Faggots, lezbos, trannies … women … leftists … have overshot their target and are about to find out what its like to get reigned in. The pendulum will swing back the other way. In time, overshooting its target as well. But for now … No more “affirmative action”. No more “divorce rape” for men in family court. No more “privilege” for having a vagina. YOU WANT EQUAL TREATMENT … THEN WE GOT THAT FOR YOU …UNEQUAL TREATMENT WILL NO LONGER BE TOLERATED. Got standards for the military … women can meet that or go elsewhere and NO the standards will not be lowered. Ditto for cops, firemen, etc.

    As for the topic of abortion, it should be pretty clear. If a man has a child he is on the hook for child support for 18-21 years. WEATHER HE WANTED THE CHILD OR NOT. And lets presume he does … WHAT GIVES THE WOMEN THE RIGHT TO MURDER A CHILD THE FATHER WANTS ??? Seriously … is that effed up or what. WHAT ABOUT MEN”S RIGHTS ??? But that is the current law. So change that. All it takes is a judge willing to upset the status quo.

    How about this instead. If a women wants to have an abortion she gets the permission of the father first. DO A DNA TEST. NO FATHER WILLING TO SIGN THE PAPERS … THEN NO ABORTION … ITS NOW MURDER. And if the mother chooses to have the child and exclude the father … call that what it is … A HATE CRIME … for denying the father his right to be a parent in his own child’s life.

    The pendulum swings. And it swings back. That’s how it works.

    Thanks for allowing free speech and discussion of these issues because that is what america is all about.

  7. May 23, 2019 at 3:08 pm

    But there is one more reason why the anti-abortion movement is doomed to failure. Women of reproductive age are far more sympathetic than embryos and fetuses. Just wait till any of these stupid laws results in the death of a moderately photogenic (and white) woman with ectopic pregnancy, infections spreading to fetus, pre-eclampsia, infections due to botched attempts at abortions. You think that media goes overboard promoting the victims of mass shootings? You haven’t seen anything yet. Also, social media will amplify such tragedies in ways that stupid old southern losers cannot defend. Did I mention that every internet monopoly is run and staffed by people with pro-choice views. Of course, the anti-abortion losers are too delusional and stupid to understand how their actions will end up speeding the final public demise of that movement.

    YES!!! And this is yet another example of how stupid white CONservative racist lawmakers create stupid laws to intentionally hurt and destroy blacks, browns, women and impoverished people… only to have those laws backfire on them like a boomerang.

    The same thing happened with the “war on drugs” (as soon as white suburbanite kids use drugs and kill themselves via the opioid crisis, they yearn for rehab and create D.A.R.E. “to keep kids off drugs” programs).

    The same thing happened with sexual rights and miscegenation (it’s OK for white guys to fuck everything in sight, but fast forward to today where a lot of their own women have a declining interest in sex with white men and are too busy chasing black men – hence, the real reason behind these mass shootings committed by looney “incels”).

    The same thing happened with white CONservatives limiting the distribution of money and resources to keep certain people in poverty (now, we’re starting to see more homeless whites flooding the suburbs – as you’ve mentioned that was exposed on a YouTube channel).

    The same thing happened with “the child support hustle”. Now, “the manosphere” and stupid MGTOW websites are laced with white men (including Paul Elam and Chateau Horseshit) whining about how the system, fathers’ rights, hypergamy, paternity fraud, blah blah blah

    The same thing happened with governments interfering with fathers’ rights in the black community – now Warren Ferrell and the likes wants to blame “fatherlessness” for why adult white men commit mass shootings, bombings and legalized murder via the police state – when the truth is, alot of these bastards DID have fathers, who probably goaded them into being racist, misogynist, murderous pieces of sh*t!

    The same thing is happening with the abortion issue – while I have no qualms about what a woman chooses to do with her own body, Margaret Sanger created “planned parenthood” as an attempt to say black babies should be weeded out – in other words – but now, guess who’s having babies (women of color) and who ain’t?!

    Kinda like deja vu and karma mixed together, isn’t it?

  8. Yusef
    May 23, 2019 at 4:09 pm

    “In the previous part, I made a reference to how the modern anti-abortion movement’s origin in ex-slave owning, still impoverished and dying southern states would lead to its demise. But what are the mechanics of such a demise? Also, would it be a stand-alone phenomena or part of a much larger trend?”

    I will attempt a brief history of the anti-abortion movement in order to counter the history you give and to counteract the conclusions you draw.

    There was no anti-abortion movement until the Roe v. Wade SCOTUS decision in the early 70’s. There was no movement or widespread discussion of abortion anywhere. Not in the south, the north– nowhere. The anti-abortion movement was entirely reactionary– against Roe v. Wade, which was in any case a very solid improvement in nearly every way from what had been in law prior.

    The anti-abortion didn’t begin to coalesce until Reagan became president. It was at this time the “religious right” or “the moral majority” or whatever you might want to call it, decided they found a home in the Republican Party and accepted Reagan’s scam of pretending to be in support of their agenda. This was, by the way, a brilliant political move by Reagan. Also, he’s been the only president since then to really pull it off, meaning he kept the “religious right” content without really making policy they wanted.

    My opinion is the Republican Party profits from having the religious right, which votes as a bloc, and which is, BTW, a minority and always has been, voting for Republicans who have never had any intention of going along with its crap; they’re playing these people, who notice what’s going on and occasionally make noise and trouble, but never genuinely enough to change anything and never enough for them to become disaffected and leave. It is similar to the blacks and the democratic party. They know the party doesn’t work for them but where are they going to go? To the Republicans? But that would be worse.

    The most visible time of this strange friction was during the Bush Baby years, when the Republicans really had no solid excuses for why they couldn’t “get ‘er done” as the religious right anti-abortion people wanted it done. That was why the Terry Schiavo shenanigans played so prominently, to make it appear the Republicans were “pro-life”. It was a distraction from the real issues. It worked, not exactly all the way, but enough. The Republicans can keep this bloc through lip service and distraction. (There have always been a number of Republicans who have not stooped to lying about being anti-abortion and there are no doubt a few who are true believers, but for the most part this is the game being played.

    The anti-abortion movement will fail because it does not have truly majority popular support, nor true support from the elites, the people with the real power. The fact you’ve come up with all this other garbage to explain the phenomena shows the people in power are effective at stirring the pot, getting people to believe they’re going to do things they’re never going to do, and so on and so forth, snookering everyone with the dance of shadows on cave walls and TV screens.

  9. Dred Nightstalker
    May 24, 2019 at 9:09 am

    I’d guess that evolution will simply route around abortion, birth control and other anti-natalist practices, as those women and cultures that are inclined to have lots of babies displace those who aren’t–the latter being nature’s losers, in an evolutionary sense.

  10. P Ray
    May 26, 2019 at 7:33 am

    Who wants to bet that the “anti-abortion” movement is only facing resistance now, because many women want to entrap a Chad with pregnancy and their game is being shorted, since if the guy doesn’t stick around … she doesn’t want to carry the baby, AND doesn’t want any stigma of trying to carry the disadvantage of being labelled a “killer” through having an illegal abortion? Plus they seem to have forgotten about condoms, morning after pills, and … even taking the morning after pill 2 days in a row? Just seems like people have lost their minds about birth control (oh wait, if Chad is involved, women seem to lose their ability(?) for rational thought)

    Also, this:
    https://nypost.com/2019/05/25/scared-students-are-rejecting-colleges-in-states-with-strict-abortion-laws/
    ‘Scared’ students are rejecting colleges in states with strict abortion laws
    By Dana Schuster May 25, 2019 | 4:35pm

    How’s about you keep your legs together, don’t drink or do drugs, don’t take drinks from strangers and always think of your safety?*

    *You know this also applies to men, surprise sex in such a situation is usually traumatic.

  11. doclove
    June 4, 2019 at 3:24 pm

    First, I think abortion is morally wrong. It is a bad idea because there could be a slippery slope over who is considered a human being and who is not.
    The next thing you know is that the ruling elite may pick you for extermination. It is not a game one should play, However, the most dangerous place for a black person is as a baby foetus in his mother’s womb just before she decides to abort him. African American women kill more of their own babies than everyone else combined through abortion. David Cole over at Takimag seems to think that the pro abortion people are frightened because there may be more restrictions coming to abortion, but we will see if you are right or he is. As, a CONservative white man, it would make more sense to encourage more women of color to abort their babies because that would mean fewer LIEberal voters in the future and remember what Napoleon once said< "Never interrupt the enemy when he is making a mistake( especially if you are losing)."

    • P Ray
      June 4, 2019 at 10:05 pm

      Abortion is just one step, as it is women already exterminate men … by choosing to breed with a select few men, and telling other guys:
      “My child is my world”
      “I already have one child, you can show me how much you love me by being a parent to them”
      “Why can’t men understand that it doesn’t matter whose child it is, it’s whether you love it that counts” (But if you reply to that then getting a child from adoption should be ok, since she is also saying cuckoldry is ok … she’ll get mad)

      Nazism never went away, it just become more subtle and covert with the idea:
      “All women’s choices are valid. Men wanting choices too is evil, unless they are the top 10% of men.”

      This quote illustrates it perfectly:
      “In ONE generation, women can genocide out of existence ALL of the kind and caring men in their society – just look at Afghanistan, for example. How do you think it came about that an entire country’s women are not allowed to leave the house without a man? Are all those men in Afghanistan really nice, caring men? Of course not – the nice, caring men were GENOCIDED out of existence by the stupid women who lived and then rejected those nice men for the violent men, when the nice, caring men were still alive.”

      As for the movie version, you are looking for:
      Good(2008) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436364/
      John Halder is a ‘good’ and decent individual with family problems: a neurotic wife, two demanding children and a mother suffering from senile dementia. A literary professor, Halder explores his personal circumstances in a novel advocating compassionate euthanasia. When the book is unexpectedly enlisted by powerful political figures in support of government propaganda, Halder finds his career rising in an optimistic current of nationalism and prosperity. Seemingly inconsequential decisions lead to choices, which lead to more choices… with eventually devastating effect.

      • doclove
        June 5, 2019 at 3:38 am

        You are correct that women on average want meaner nastier more asinine men than what they say, although I obviously know that there are degrees and exceptions to this. I am an American White man born in 1968, am 51 years old and remember something a gay Jewish American man said to me when I was 23 years old. He told me that I would not be lonely for more than a year if I were homosexual nor would I have someone who was liar or crazy or mean for a relationship unless I wanted it that way. He said women prefer assholes when dating men. He told me that I was too nice of a man for most if not all women. He said that he knew I could be cruel but that it was virtually certain that it would only come out if something wrong was done to me or someone or something I cared about. He said that women liked men who were cruel and asinine for no good reason whatsoever or just liked to hurt others as it pleasured them even though these victims did nothing wrong to them, someone they cared about or something they cared about. A friend of mine who is two and three quarters years younger got a similar speech from a homosexual man who is former model. about three years ago. You are more right than wrong to say what you say, and this is sad but true.

      • P Ray
        June 6, 2019 at 3:02 pm

        Anyhow, here’s a handy-dandy chart for regular/ugly men to quickly realise what type of woman they’re dealing with and not to waste time:

        Download for your smartphone and use it discreetly when speaking to women, that will definitely save time, emotions, money and effort.

      • P Ray
        June 7, 2019 at 1:47 am

        @doclove:
        Someone else said what you’re saying too, a common observation meaning it’s likely true:

        I’m a gay man. Don’t know if I agree with everything here, but there’s one aspect of inceldom that is undeniably true: women HATE ugly men (…)
        submitted 3 days ago by …
        I’ve lost count of how many times fag hags or girls who think I’m their “gay besty” absolutely SAVAGE these poor guys in my presence. They’ll show me their tinders/bumbles/okcupids or w/e and just absolutely tear apart the uglier guys who pop up. Men they’ve never met before, who they know nothing about. “Short.” “Fat.” “Ugly.” “Small dick.” “Terrible face.”
        Now I’ll be the first to admit the gay community isn’t exactly above such behavior itself. I’ve ridiculed and been ridiculed by various men. But most of the time, it’s good-natured, or at least shallow banter. But these women I go to brunch with, telling me about these poor saps who’ve tried to ask them out or w/e. It’s fucking ruthless. They would 100% be okay condemning such men to death. I think there’s something hardwired into the female brain that makes them LOATHE ugly men, like obsessively so. Ugly gay guys can still get laid. Ugly straight guys, not so much.

        Funniest/saddest part is, many of my gal pals aren’t exactly aphrodite either. Sometimes I have to deflate them just a bit with a well-placed, “Well, honey, you’re not getting any younger!” They hate that shit, start crying or storm off. This is why I prefer the company of men in all things.

        So yeah, the rest of the world thinks you guys are evil or w/e, but I can promise you you’re completely right on at least one aspect of women’s behavior. Hatred for ugly dudes is completely, undeniably true.

        There will be a civilisational reset quite shortly I believe. All of humanity will be able to see just how “strong” and “independent” a lot of women will become /s

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