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Antifa Idiots are Ignorant of History and Lack Strategic Thinking

I usually ignore worthless drama driven by attention-whores, and that is why you won’t see me writing yet another ‘hot take’ on something as insipid as the 1st debate between those all those 20 democratic candidates. Events like that pathetic clown show are less that meaningless, unless one or more of the candidates drops dead on stage. This is also why I also rarely write about the latest trends in ‘culture wars’ and other click-baity crap of no long-term significance. Having said that, I do occasionally write about such topics if their impact is potentially larger than yet another manufactured storm in a teacup. With that in mind, let us talk about antifa movement or more precisely the latest incident which has gotten them into the spotlight.

As some of you might have heard, a journalist known as Andy Ngo was violently assaulted while covering a clash between far-right and antifa demonstrators in Portland. Ironically, the link from sputniknews contains the most objective account of what went down. Also, I would rather not link to anything on breitbart, dailycaller, pjmedia etc. While you can easily find multiple clips of that incident on YouTube, it is worth pointing out that all of them show a guy with camera gear (Andy Ngo) being swarmed, sprayed and then assaulted by a bunch of guys sporting antifa gear. More importantly, there are no clips which show the guy in question assaulting antifa protesters. Here is a very short YT clip which captures the gist of what happened.

Now let me be clear about something.. Andy Ngo is a slimy grifter who is using his race to fleece aging white CONservative supporters of right-wing news outlets. He is basically an Asian version of Candace Owens or any of those forgettable and stereotypical black CONservative YouTubers whose act is predicated on them being non-white and pandering to idiots. Having said that, what he is doing is no different from what Rachael Maddow, Don Lemon, Chris Cuomo etc do nightly for much more money. In other words, we cannot pretend that Any Ngo is any less of a journalist than the famous talking heads that appear on cable TV news or write in NYT or WP. And don’t pretend that such a story would have stayed small if the situation was reversed.

About two years ago, I posted a link to a clip which suggested that the alt-right in USA are much closer to the Sturmabteilung (SA) than NSDAP aka Nazis of Weimar-era Germany. The relevant point is that the antifa most closely resemble the ‘communist-type’ groups who engaged in street battles with the SA and NSDAP. The key word being ‘communist-type’ since these groups were driven less by ideology than a desire to oppose the SA and NSDAP. And yes.. I am aware that this assertion simplifies a lot of complex history. Nevertheless, it was SA and NSDAP who eventually won power for two important reasons. Firstly, the capitalist class in Germany preferred fascism since it allowed them to maintain the old hierarchy.

The second reason is, in my opinion, equally if not more important. While fascists had a relatively clear (if mediocre) set of promises for the general public and a leadership cadre, communist-types had neither. To make matters worse, they were defined by their opposition to fascists and being ‘soviet-sympathizers’ rather than as a viable option to fascists who promised to make Germany great again. The lack of sufficient public support in early-1930s allowed the fascists, with generous help from German capitalists and centrists, to seize power. The rest, as they say, is history. It is ironic that antifa types have not learned the most important lesson from history about how to confront fascists- if that is what they are.

Let me now say something that is heresy among the twitter-left and other “respectable” and “credentialed” intellectuals. The people who they identify as fascists and Nazis are in reality nothing more than pathetic grifters, disillusioned lumpenproletariat and drama queens. In other words, these alleged american fascists and Nazis are the equivalent of high-school cover bands playing some shitty music to get pussy. This is not to say that they could not one day end up becoming real fascists and Nazis. But lets be real, that is very unlikely to happen without some serious support by rich people and extenuating circumstances such as economic collapse.

Which is why the response of antifa to these morons is both comical and well as problematic. You probably guessed why its comical, now let me tell you why it is problematic. See.. a lot of people outside the twitter-left and careerists who live in a few coastal cities are not happy with liberalism in USA. To be more precise, they correctly associate liberalism with many highly problematic trends such as de-industrialization, precarity of livelihood, rent seeking through credentialization, rapidly growing inequality and the general disconnect between top 10% and everyone else.

A major part of the reason why grifters such as Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, Milo Yiannopoulos etc have been able to become far more famous, than they otherwise would have, comes down to them being able to articulate half-truths about issues which have been banished from mainstream public discourse. Many people see antifa as just another extension of the hated (neo)liberal elite and their status quo. You cannot, for example, pretend that allowing large-scale immigration from Mexico and other latin-american countries has no effect on wages in USA. But try saying anything to that effect in a speech at a coastal university and tons of SJWs, “woke” activists and antifa types will try to run you out of town. The same is true for issues such as wanting due process for adjudicating accusations of sexual harassment and assault or not wanting to pretend that a man with a beard who claims to a woman is one.

And this brings us to the other reason why assaulting grifters such as Andy Ngo is such a bad idea. To put it succinctly- it converts them into them deserving victims and validates their claims of systemic persecution. While credentialed losers who spent too much time on left-twitter or within their own incestuous social bubbles in coastal cities might believe otherwise, such attempts to shut down right-wing grifters is highly counterproductive. In case you are wondering, this is why I said that antifa idiots lack the ability to think strategically.

If you want to properly disrupt people like Andy Ngo, pay a mariachi band to follow him near the protests he is covering. It achieves the objective of making him look ridiculous without allowing him to claim victim-hood and expand his grifting operation. Assaulting him in public and in front of multiple smartphone cameras, on the other hand, makes him the victim and plays into his scam. Then again, antifa-types tend to be myopic idiots obsessed with ‘virtue display’.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. nyolci
    June 30, 2019 at 11:32 pm

    Again, while mostly agreeing with you, a few points.
    “[German Communists] were defined by their opposition to fascists”
    This is definitely not true. Their ideological commitment was well known (to the masses too!) and it was clearly understandable (to the masses), and it was definite anti-capitalism. At that age, serious ideological issues were widely known and discussed, unlike now. Nowadays, people look quite dumb and uneducated compared to the people of the 30s. Actually, antifa’s (and most of the current left’s) greatest weakness is exactly the ideological void (or downright BS masqueraded as ideology), and this is a great contrast to the 30s. This ideological confusion (and the following extreme tactical ineptness) is a very good explanation how the US ruling class could terminate the so far only mass and grass roots movement, Occupy in 2 weeks after the decision had been made.

    You have to note too that in Germany the party militias were mostly armed and these confrontations were often armed as well. The right wingers very often attacked civilians (workers), and the struggles had a “self defence” character. The state let the parties arm militias because Germany’s army was limited by the peace treaty.

    The SA comparison is quite good, though, including the part “some serious support by rich people and extenuating circumstances such as economic collapse”. This is happening now. The right wing bullshitters, like Ben Shapiro, are just tools in that.

    • P Ray
      July 1, 2019 at 5:40 pm

      At that age, serious ideological issues were widely known and discussed, unlike now. Nowadays, people look quite dumb and uneducated compared to the people of the 30s.

      I think at that time of less social media it was also harder to get accused of wrongthink, or at least different sides of an argument had more chance of being heard.
      With social media now there’s little display of nuance – you are given a choice of which extreme position to hold, and the other side will bash you for it …

      • nyolci
        July 2, 2019 at 6:01 am

        “it was also harder to get accused of wrongthink”
        Exactly. It’s extremely hard to debate on a forum where more than half of the posters plainly misunderstand a basic point but post immediately their one liner BS. Once there was a news piece about a DPRK missile test, a quite hostile reporting. The wrote (correctly) that the missile hit the Sea of Japan, around 200 miles from Japan. It was hilarious, at least 70% of the posters were angry because Korea was “shelling Japan”, and they couldn’t get beyond this. I wonder whether they would’ve been less angry had the article used the Korean name, East Sea.

  2. emerystars21
    July 1, 2019 at 9:25 am

    “And this brings us to the other reason why assaulting grifters such as Andy Ngo is such a bad idea. To put it succinctly- it converts them into them deserving victims and validates their claims of systemic persecution”

    What about the idea that making stooges like Ngo into deserving victims would take away airtime from people who are actual threats. If the media simply blacked out all footage and reports of Antifa bashing skulls it would hurt their legitimacy even more, but by putting forward clowns and weak people as the attacked it simultaneously gives the concession that attacks happen but denies any time given to people who could articulate reality well.

  3. Wilbur Hassenfus
    July 1, 2019 at 2:39 pm

    They’re not strategists. They’re street thugs. They think everybody not on their side is a “fascist”. Beating up actual fascist-LARPers is practice, a team-building exercise, and advertising: Everybody knows Antifa serve the mainstream left. The Democrats can send their paramilitary wing to put you in the hospital, and the law will not protect you. That’s a powerful message. It encourages people not to rock the boat. It encourages people to support the guys with unchallenged power who are above the law. And remember, Americans are firehosed with propaganda about how the dems are virtuous.

    Sooner or later they’ll be beating up mainstream republicans. The media will explain how the GOPe suckers deserved it. The police will do nothing.

  4. July 1, 2019 at 4:38 pm

    Good essay–one thing I would point out is that the Social Democrats in Germany also had their own groups of street thugs who would battle both the communists and the Nazis. Politically, it was the schism between the Social Democrats and the Communists, and their refusal to work together, that was likely the biggest factor in Hitler coming to power. Not unlike the similar schism between the left and the liberals in America today, in fact, that helped bring Trump to power.

    • nyolci
      July 1, 2019 at 10:31 pm

      Yep, you are right. In Hungary (my country) even decades after the 30s the Communists were constantly speaking about the need of alliance between worker parties as the most important point in political struggles.

      “Politically, it was the schism between the Social Democrats and the Communists, and their refusal to work together”
      I mostly know the Communist side of the story, and according to them, it was the SocDems specifically who refused collaboration. Even the Popular Front (that worked somehow for a short time in most of Europe) was a Communist initiative (more specifically Stalinist).

  5. Rum
    July 1, 2019 at 5:12 pm

    Speaking of strategy… what is more valuable than being anonymous and invisible vs having a known name and address — if things start to get wet? The millions who are starting to seriously hate the media ass-holes and their anteefa pets are never on TV themselves, and less and less are shit posting in social media.
    I am not in LE, but if I were, I would not be pleased to become identified in the public mind with the aims and tactics of ATFa — which tends to happen when they “do nothing” in the face of such ultra-publicized events. And COPs have to be in uniform to function as a COP unless they are some kind of spy. See where this all goes?
    It is the same problem with the small number of folks visibly working at Big Tech as a main decision maker vs the hordes of anonymous folk who take it personally when they are unpersoned from their online persona.

    And those type of events are going to start occurring sooner than most people realize- almost definitely by sometime in 2020.

  6. Jack Donovan
    July 2, 2019 at 5:14 pm

    Look at the horrid things the Rose City Antifa said about me:

    https://rosecityantifa.org/articles/the-wolves-of-vinland-a-fascist-countercultural-tribe-in-the-pacific-northwest/

    And the worst thing is they did their research y infiltrating the Wolves of Vineland and, uh, penetrating us on our own turf.

  7. Jack Donovan
    July 2, 2019 at 5:16 pm

    and when they did infiltrate, and, uh, penetrate us, I could tell they were white guys who like to fuck other white guys:

    https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/01/antifa-is-mostly-privileged-white-dudes/

  8. Jack
    July 4, 2019 at 3:53 pm

    You’re a pathetic piece of crap to call Andy Ngo a conservative “grifter”. Andy exposes the sanctimonious SJW CONs and shows exactly what’s wrong with the pathetic Left. You, a basic nobody goes on to disparage him. Let’s see you come out from your hideout and see you do half of the things Andy does to expose the phony Left.

    FYI, I see most journalists as grifters and shills. That is why Andy Ngo is no worse, or better, than somebody at NYT, AP, CNN or MSNC.

  9. P Ray
    October 1, 2019 at 9:38 am

    I used to wonder why Candace Owens wasn’t too opposed to the idea that minorities get a raw deal and white supremacists are not a problem.

    Then I saw who her husband is:

    Remember this:
    Whom women fuck and are in relationships with, absolutely affect their politics.

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