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Some Thoughts on Hollywood and the Trump Derangement Syndrome

One of the more unusual features of Trump’s presidency has been the large amount of hate it has elicited from Hollywood “celebrities”. Which is odd because, prior to running for president, Trump was well-liked by the same people who now make it a point to constantly proclaim their dislike and disdain for him. So how does a guy who was always lecherous, willing to scam others, with a seriously racist worldview and numerous other character flaws go from just another Hollywood-friendly “celebrity” to an icon of everything that is wrong with this country? Now, I am sure that some of you might say that his many flaws became relevant only after winning the 2016 election and becoming president. But is that really the case?

Think about it! Almost every single character flaw which is supposed to make Trump unsuitable for the presidency would also make him a shitty human being that others would not like to hang out with. For starters, take his well-known obsession with young women, teenage girls and his eldest daughter. As some of you might know, it was widely known that he a bit rapey, unusually interested in beauty pageants and seriously obsessed with his older daughter. However none of these facts were disqualifying to the numerous Hollywood “celebrities” who hung around him during those decades. Which brings us to the question as to why a guy who is now portrayed as a “sexual predator” was once an integral part of the celebrity circuit. Makes you think, doesn’t it?

Or take his well-known history of being involved in multiple failed business and likely connections with mafia in NJ. Was any of this a secret? Did any of this ever have an adverse effect on his acceptance by the Hollywood “celebrity” circuit in the past? Did they stop hanging out with him because he stiffed many small business who had done work for him? Did his rumored connections with the mafia in NJ make him a pariah among Hollywood “celebrities”? Moving on to his history of casual racism and race-colored worldviews.. Did any of the many “woke celebrities” who now condemn his racism on an almost daily basis ever stop associating with him because of his views and actions before 2016? And let us be clear, his main business interests had the subject of investigation and prosecution by the government for racist practices since the 1970s.

My point is that none of these “woke celebrities”, who now criticize Trump at every turn, cared that he was a racist lecher with a massively bloated ego before 2016. But why not? Why didn’t his old and well-known character flaws become an issue until his election on Nov 8, 2016? To understand what I am getting at, let us compare him to the two other previous presidents, namely Obama44 and Bush43. As I have written about in previous posts, the Obama presidency was a disaster for the democratic party and tens of millions in this country. One could even make the claim that popular dissatisfaction with the Obama presidency was an important reason behind the rise of somebody such as Trump. And yet, the Hollywood “celebrity” circuit and discredited lamestream media treat Obama as if he was the best president ever.

So why does an ex-president whose greatest claim to fame is that he did not fuck it up as bad as his predecessor (Bush43) become the establishment’s unquestioned darling? A major clue to this apparent paradox can be found in the recent attempts by elites to rehabilitate the image of Bush43. As some might remember, Bush43 was the single most disastrous president in living memory. Not only did he start the last two major military conflicts which USA lost, but his administration presided over a number of other shitshows such as the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, Housing Bubble and the Global Financial Crisis of 2008. So why did Bush43 get only a fraction of the hate from Hollywood “celebrities” that the orange troll gets on a weekly basis?

The more cynical of you might attribute this to the relative absence of social media platforms during the Bush43 presidency. While the lack of smartphones and relative newness of Twitter, FakeBook etc did reduce the amount of dissenting voices during that era, there were two far bigger factors which kept “celebrities” from criticizing Bush43 to anywhere near the levels they do for Trump. Firstly, Bush43 was part of the establishment- even if the credibility of that entity was coming apart in front of everyone. As a consequence of that, the majority of criticism about his administration came from people who were not part of the establishment- either centrally or peripherally. The thing is.. majority of Hollywood “celebrities” see themselves as part of the establishment- if only in their minds.

In their eyes, Trump’s real crime is that he is not part of the establishment. Yes.. you heard that right. They express their dislike for the orange troll, not because he is an incompetent, lecherous and cruel loser or a delusional blowhard- but because he is not part of the right crowd (as they see it). Bush43’s actions resulted in the loss of many hundreds thousands lives, trillions of dollars and ushered the beginning of end for USA as a superpower. By those lofty standards, Trump is a bumbling doofus who hasn’t been able to cause a fraction of the damage caused by the Bush43 presidency. But Bush43, unlike Trump, was part of the right crowd.

An even bigger reason for why Hollywood “celebrities” dump on Trump has to do with the nature of north american society. The thing is.. many of you believe that societies like DPRK and China are the most conformist societies in existence today. However having met and interacted with a number of people from all over the world, I can say without a shadow of doubt that USA is by far the most conformist society on earth today. It is of course true that people in this country spend tons of money and expend much effort to pretend they are individualistic- and then go about showing it in a highly conformist manner. As I mentioned in an old post, a society usually lacks whatever quality, resource or attribute it portray itself to be full of.

The entertainment sector, aka Hollywood etc, is especially full of unimaginative conformists who spend a lot of time and resources pretending they are individualistic free-spirits. However when they hear dog-whistles from the few who have tons of money and power, almost everybody falls in line. That is why dissing Trump has become a competitive sport among Hollywood “celebrities”. Furthermore, we have reached a stage where simulacra have become more important than reality for many people in this country- at least in the short term. Everybody in that sector seems to be displaying fashionable, curated and attention-grabbing versions of themselves. And who can fault them for doing so in a world where only the best fake displays of opinions, behavior and outrage will ensure their continued fame, visibility and relevance.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. Gern Blanderson
    October 28, 2019 at 5:54 am

    The entertainment sector, aka Hollywood etc, is especially full of unimaginative conformists who spend a lot of time and resources pretending they are individualistic free-spirits.

    I agree that conformity is the main reason Hollywood has group think. Then need to conform so that they can be “in the club” and get gigs/jobs/roles, etc… The other and simpler reason they all hate Trump is because of the abortion issue. Trump joined the Republican party (which is the wrong party for them) and appoints pro-life judges. That’s it. Nothing else matters besides the abortion issue to liberals.

  2. MikeCA
    October 28, 2019 at 10:41 am

    This post is just a piece of pro-Trump propaganda.

    The main reason people in Hollywood and much of the rest of the country hate Trump is because of his racism and sexism. Many of the men who run Hollywood are just as bad as Trump (Harvey Weinstein) but they are not president and they are not openly trying to mainstream racism and sexism.

    This whole post is just complete nonsense and reads typical alt-right propaganda.

    Why did Trump get booed and greeted with “Lock Him Up” chants at game 5 of the world series just hours after announcing the death of the leader of ISIS? Hint, it is not just people in Hollywood that hate Trump.

    • doldrom
      October 28, 2019 at 2:13 pm

      So a challenge. What is 1. the most racist thing Trump has said since 2016; 2. the most sexist thing Trump has said. Only statements count where the substance explicitly supports the label, not so-called dog-whistles or gestures that other people judge to be “symbols”.

      Trump is a racist, but he is no worse than the average 74-year old white guy living in a blue state.

      • MikeCA
        October 29, 2019 at 2:30 pm

        Google is your friend. If you don’t trust Google, try DuckDuckGo.

      • Jack Donovan
        October 30, 2019 at 11:01 am

        “Trump is a racist, but he is no worse than the average 74-year old white guy living in a blue state.”

        hahaha, sounds like MikeCA…

        Yes, our “philosophies” intersect nicely…

    • doldrom
      October 30, 2019 at 7:11 am

      MikeCA. You are the one using the terms. So I am not doing my own research, I would like you to support your use of the terms with concrete substantive statements by Trump that have lead to your conviction.

  3. doldrom
    October 28, 2019 at 2:11 pm

    To be an entertainer you need to be popular. Popular people by definition dovetail with popular clichés and memes. Misfits have nothing to look for in Hollywood.

  4. Yusef
    October 28, 2019 at 4:06 pm

    “Why did Trump get booed and greeted with “Lock Him Up” chants at game 5 of the world series just hours after announcing the death of the leader of ISIS?”

    Why did Trump get booed and greeted with “Lock Him Up” chants? Because no one likes him or respects him. He’s a moron. He was elected to be a moron, and such he is. Do you get it yet? He’s there to get booed and greeted with “Lock Him Up” chants.

    He’s a known moron. He was put into office because he would throw a wrench into the works. In true moron fashion everything would be messed up. It would come to a grinding stop. So it has come to pass. “The works” meaning the status quo, same day same old, going on as usual, sucked. Now that he’s fucking everything up, perhaps you think his supporters should greet that with jubilance and cheers. It wasn’t exactly to get things all messed up he became POTUS.

    “This post is just a piece of pro-Trump propaganda.”

    Pro-Trump propaganda: Trump is a fool, a moron, a piece of shit. Trump is a fool, a moron, a piece of shit.Trump is a fool, a moron, a piece of shit.Trump is a fool, a moron, a piece of shit.Trump is a fool, a moron, a piece of shit.Trump is a fool, a moron, a piece of shit.Trump is a fool, a moron, a piece of shit. Get it now? There are very few people who are pro-Trump. No one here is.

    “The main reason people in Hollywood and much of the rest of the country hate Trump is because of his racism and sexism.”

    They hated it so much they elected him president.

    • MikeCA
      October 29, 2019 at 2:34 pm

      AD use to respond to my posts. Now he has stopped responding and I get attempted responses from Yusef and some other random users. Ummmm … wonder what that means?

      This response is weak Yusef. Most of it doesn’t make any sense. Not worth responding.

      Every recent reply by you seems to contain one or more of the following: 1] It is due to Russia, 2] It is an Russian disinformation campaign, 3] Democrats are either faultless or acting in good faith.

      If that is what you want to believe, you are free to do so. It is especially puzzling how you blame Trump’s election on a few hundred k spent by Russia while ignoring the tens to hundreds of millions from countries such as Israel, Saudi Barbaria and Qatar- not to mention their lobby networks in DC.

      HRC spent twice as much money as Trump in 2016 but still lost the election. Ever done an objective postmortem of why? How did HRC lose in reliably democratic states in the MidWest? Perhaps you have given away your critical thanking skills and started trusting establishment shills in NYT, WP, MSNBC and CNN.

      You spent so time obsessing on the Mulder Report? How did that turn out? Do you think the present manufactured scandal about Ukraine is going to turn out any differently?

      • Yusef
        October 29, 2019 at 6:39 pm

        Isn’t the point, Mike, that any response from anyone–myself or AD or anyone else who still tries to take you seriously– is going to appear weak because what it is responding to is so weak.

        I’m mean, listen, man, you said of AD’s post ” This post is just a piece of pro-Trump propaganda.” Do you know how stupid that makes you look?

        What about the following:

        1. “So how does a guy who was always lecherous, willing to scam others, with a seriously racist worldview and numerous other character flaws go from just another Hollywood-friendly “celebrity” to an icon of everything that is wrong with this country? (paragraph one)

        2. ! “Almost every single character flaw which is supposed to make Trump unsuitable for the presidency would also make him a shitty human being that others would not like to hang out with. For starters, take his well-known obsession with young women, teenage girls and his eldest daughter. As some of you might know, it was widely known that he a bit rapey, unusually interested in beauty pageants and seriously obsessed with his older daughter. (paragraph two)

        3. “Or take his well-known history of being involved in multiple failed business and likely connections with mafia in NJ.”(paragraph three)

        4. “……..Trump at every turn, cared that he was a racist lecher with a massively bloated ego before 2016.”(paragraph six)

        5. “They express their dislike for the orange troll, not because he is an incompetent, lecherous and cruel loser or a delusional blowhard- but because he is not part of the right crowd (as they see it).” (paragraph seven)

        Strangest pro-Trump propaganda I ever did see. I suspect AD has for the most part stopped responding to you because you are not worthy of a response. Just right now, I’ve come to the same conclusion and will follow AD’s lead. Bye Bye. Something has gone badly wrong upstairs, there, Mikey Boy. Senile, any?

      • doldrom
        October 30, 2019 at 7:14 am

        «« Ummmm … wonder what that means? »»

        What do you think, personally??

  5. nyolci
    October 31, 2019 at 1:20 am

    Your second to last paragraph (about conformism) is one of the most honest and concise description of the US. And the thing is I haven’t seen anyone talking about this so far. I’ve been thinking like this about the US for and long time, and I always wondered why no one had raised this so far.

    Regarding Trump, I think we agree. Trump is an outsider in these circles. These guys have their workings and Trump hadn’t received the necessary “training” on how to get along as a “leader”. I think it was perhaps Kennedy the last person who could get a high position without being completely in line with the ruling class’s position.

    • October 31, 2019 at 7:29 am

      “It is of course true that people in this country spend tons of money and expend much effort to pretend they are individualistic- and then go about showing it in a highly conformist manner.” -AD

      They took individualism and perverted it into its opposite. So they could commodify it. Maybe we can package it like one author did a while back by renaming it “objectivisim” and write feminine teenage soap opera science fiction romance comic book style “novels” about it. Do you think maybe there are enough suckers out there who are idiotic enough to by the bullshit so we can get rich on it?

      This is a very well stated fact as AD expressed. My father hated this phenomena, he called it “monkey see, monkey do”. This phenomena has been around for a long time in our country. It began its tyrannical rule at least 100 years ago and has become a highly refined and distilled power employing multiple influencers including mass media, “news”, advertising, religious institutions, education (indoctrination institutions designed to coerce babies and children to respond to a bell each hour…… think about that), and the entertainment industry. Listen to early radio broadcasts, you will hear its voice, that voice not so indirectly telling everyone how to feel about events and what everyone supposedly thinks, what is acceptable to think, what is not. I grew up in a small rural town. Everyone, come family, gather round the radio, then gather round the TV, it’s time to be entertained, it is not time to think. It is time to sit in a chair or on the couch or the floor and get fat. It is time for America to get fat and stupid!! My father refused to purchase a television for the family and told our mother he did not want his children to learn “how to be acted upon and manipulated” he said “I want them to learn how to think for themselves”. And we did. His life was a series of high successes and disastrous failures. We lived through periods of significant wealth and poverty. My parents were unusual compared to typical white middle class America. My siblings and I were born outside that boring, idiotic subculture that has spawn so much delusional bullshit over several decades. It spawn the hippies, the yuppies, and every recent generation so named to frame their ostensible group think paradigms and “style”. Everything is ruled by fashion including and especially now thought itself. I understand and know very well what I’m writing about here. This mass social influence and manipulation dates back further than most realize. It has become so influential now that most people have no idea why they think what they think and will never question themselves. In fact most don’t even think at all. They are followers or copiers parroting a few copied trolling narratives like wind up idiot dolls exactly like a certain commentator here. We can easily predict that my writing this will pull his string yet again and he will once again respond with the same basic synthetic nonsense he is programmed to respond with each time his string is pulled. Right Mike? As I stated above, we grew up in an atypical environment mostly because of our parents this environment allowed us to think for ourselves. Our mother was born in a tent in 1932 in the mountains of central Tennessee. The tent was their home. She was the first child. A couple years later, about the time her first brother, the second child, was born, they UPGRADED to an abandoned slave cabin. Our father was born in central Arkansas in 1914. They were better off than our mother’s family but he was a very rebellious and self reliant person. He was expelled from high school for refusing to write an English class essay because he thought the assignment was too stupid and the teacher was “a patsy”. He never went back to school, but started brokering bank notes immediately after the stock market crash in 1929 and made his first million in his mid 20s. They were both very self reliant. I’m writing this here not to tell their or my “story” but to provide background and fact that substantiates the reality of what I know. America is significantly decomposed into cesspool of rotting pusillanimous willfully ignorant idiots compared to those who established it and the few who have attempted to preserve it.

      • nyolci
        November 1, 2019 at 3:17 am

        “I’m writing this here not to tell their or my ‘story'”
        Hey, even that wouldn’t be a problem. What you write is interesting AND important, even your ranting 🙂
        Judging from the details you’re not young (me neither, cc 50, but likely younger than you), so you’ve seen a USA that must’ve been radically different (even stuff like newspaper articles or political speeches up to the early 80s were kinda much more serious than today when the writers apparently target the kindergarten level). Also, I wonder whether the USA of today is an inevitable outcome of the old one.

  6. flaxseedmatherYusef
    November 1, 2019 at 8:23 am

    What people are saying here about conformity is enlightening and true, and I also believe the USA is one of the most conformist societies on earth. What is also true is that the USA is one of the most authoritarian societies on earth. A lot of the conformity is on a somewhat deeper level obedience. People conform while also complying to coercion applied continuously and ruthlessly. The people who insist on the truth of what they are saying when the facts show otherwise are saying what they are saying because they are obeying their masters who tell them to say these things. Of course they deny that is what they are doing for to admit it would be to admit existential horror. The authoritarianism is all carefully disguised by cant and propaganda of freedom and democracy; the conformity is all carefully disguised by cant and propaganda of bravery and individuality and thinking for oneself.

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