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Who Said It: Danny Vinyard in ‘American History X’ or Trump in 2016

One of my critiques of HRC’s 2016 presidential campaign was that her ivy-league “credentialed” advisers and consultants focused on Trump using “bad words” and his “lack of respectability” as opposed to why his ideas were problematic. I am sure MikeCA is going to chime in and try to tell us that this was not the case. However, even a neoliberal rag such as Vox admitted otherwise. With that in mind, have a look at this clip from ‘American History X’ 1998, specifically the first two and half minutes. Doesn’t his rhetoric remind you of Trump?

Now tell me something.. did any of the ivy-league “credentialed” morons working for HRC ever run an ad campaign which juxtaposed clips from such movies with Trump’s rhetoric? Also, there is no shortage of well-known movies and TV shows conatining neo-Nazi characters expressing similar beliefs. I would have approved a series of wall-to-wall ads containing clips from Hitler speeches juxtaposed with Trump expressing similar sentiments. But the “credentialed” dumbfucks were busy running ads showing children listening to Trump using “bad words” in some speeches and surreptitiously recorded conversations. Way to go.. losers!

What do you think? Comments?

  1. November 13, 2019 at 2:58 am

    I would have approved a series of wall-to-wall ads containing clips from Hitler speeches juxtaposed with Trump expressing similar sentiments.

    Doing so would only have contributed to the rehabilitation of the reputation of Hitler. People would see it and think, “Hey, so Hitler said all those things years ago? Maybe he wasn’t so bad after all.”

  2. Cheers
    November 13, 2019 at 8:42 am

    The first minute and a half is correct. Up until he says “we are losing the right to pursue our destiny”, which is when his actual racism kicks into high gear.

    Is pointing out the massive costs of illegal immigration and ineffective border policy within the USA flat out racist just because [“insert person that doesn’t like you] said it? Is stating the underlying community costs racist? If a member of your family is killed by an illegal immigrant is it racist to want them deported?

    No.

    As the world continues to become more nationalistic (i.e. less globalized).. no better time than now to understand this.

  3. doldrom
    November 13, 2019 at 1:04 pm

    No green card, no work.
    Pretty simple. If Trump (and all the rest going back 30 years) had really wanted to do something about the crushing competition at the bottom end of society, they would go after anybody who hires somebody without an E-Verify check. Preaching law and order, they willfully abet and allow this scab labor to come in. Exploitation of these illegals (no recourse) is also countenanced as though such exploitation is normal.

    As with many things, it’s all about incentives.

  4. MikeCA
    November 13, 2019 at 2:02 pm

    We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature.

    – Abraham Lincoln’s first inaugural address.

    In a voice over at the end of American History X, Danny, who has been killed by a black gang member, reads the final lines from the paper he has written on why he adopted white supremacist views and the flaws of those values. He quotes the closing lines of Abraham Lincoln’s first inaugural address.

  5. White Power
    November 13, 2019 at 2:32 pm

    Or maybe, just maybe, Edward Norton’s character in the movie was right about the fate of our country due to unbridled immigration. Are we going to see you living amongst a bunch of Bangladeshis enclaves any time soon? I would wager, not. Everyone wants to live where the White man lives.

  6. Jack Donovan
    November 13, 2019 at 4:04 pm

    Oh.La.La. Edward.Fucking.Norton!

    He could turn a str8 man ghey. I was just a queer sucking dick in Portland but when I saw AmeriKKKan HerStory XXX, well, I knew the white nationalists had the best manginess.

  7. Gern Blanderson
    November 14, 2019 at 5:49 am

    I would have approved a series of wall-to-wall ads containing clips from Hitler speeches juxtaposed with Trump expressing similar sentiments.

    I agree that the ivy league graduates are, shall I say “educated fools” who do not have a basic understanding of human nature and politics anymore. They do not understand that politics is about salesmanship and putting on a show, basically acting. Sure, there are a few dry Presidents who got elected, but mostly show. Trump is a showman he acted on the Apprentice for years. Hillary could not put on a show.

    I disagree on your suggestion of what they should have done. First of all, the Republicans have been labeled as racist, bigot, sexist, etc… labels for years and the public takes it as the boy who cried wolf, too many times. It is old. Bush Jr, McCain, and Romney got labeled the same way. It even goes back to Reagan being labeled as a dunce. The same labels are applied to Trump. Doesn’t work.

    Second. During the Republican primary, Trump’s ideas and speeches got lots of media attention and were exposed (however one could make an argument that the mainstream media were useful idiots for showing Trump all the time). All of the Republican contenders could not take him down. There was already a massive amount of spotlight shown on Trump’s ideas. Even the Hollywood sex tape did not take him down, just weeks before the election.

  8. Someone
    November 15, 2019 at 5:00 pm

    Why do first world white countries have to take in all the world’s refuse? Race, IQ, and culture matter. Africa is a shit hole because of well, Africans. India was given some aspects of Anglo Saxon law but it’s still working many issues because of their culture.

    It’s damn shame that America is not 90% white European anymore.

    • Yusef
      November 18, 2019 at 9:00 am

      Africa is a shithole due to centuries of the most brutal exploitation by European colonial powers. I recommend you read King Leopold’s Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa (1998) by Adam Hochschild. You better get informed somehow, you fool.

      India was also brutally exploited and harmed immeasurably. It was raped. No doubt it would have had problems if left alone, but no one but a moron can deny it was not left alone and the interference by Britain was harmful in the extreme.

      I don’t know if you’re smart enough to have noticed, but if by ‘white first world countries” you are referring also to the USA, it wasn’t white to begin with and only became that way, for awhile, through immigration. Most of the white immigrants– the Irish, the Italians, the eastern Europeans, and so on, were regarded as the world’s refuse in their own time. It was smart for the USA to accept the world’s refuse then, and now, too, if it would be done intelligently. I don’t think US immigration policy as it now exists is intelligent and I would go further to say the system is broken. That in no way places me anywhere near your positions which are ignorant and immoral.

  9. Yusef
    November 17, 2019 at 9:56 pm

    As much as anything many people realize racism hasn’t disappeared: it has changed form. The new form, the “new Jim Crow” is the mass incarceration of black males, was not the product of the Republicans, but of the Democrats, and mainly under a dude with the last name Clinton. Speaking for myself, I would rather be denied use of a restroom than serve hard time in an American slammer.

    Gotta remember Mr. Trump was running against someone last name of Clinton. People who actually cared more about the issues and not afraid to be called racist one way or the other, noticed. Whether the Republicans did it or not, the racist commentary of a woman last name of Clinton got broadcast during the election of 2016. Did you know she called young black men super-predators? Check it out. There’s a good book about woman last name Clinton by a guy named Doug Henwood detailing this.

  10. Yusef
    November 18, 2019 at 1:53 pm

    It isn’t clear what Hollywood intended by putting these words and ideas into the mouth of a character clearly intended to represent a racist and a fascist. It isn’t racist and fascist to wonder why the government hasn’t patched up an immigration system which showed clear signs of breaking down decades ago.

    It is true these ideas seem to attract a disproportionate number of racists and kooks of various kinds, but the ideas themselves are not necessarily racist. Hollywood is probably using a smear tactic here to discredit ideas and people who at least deserve to be heard out.

    I believe the real reason the Democrats wouldn’t attempt to figure out the best way to deal with immigration is for the same reason the Republicans don’t either: for the people the Democrats and Republicans truly serve, illegal immigration has all sorts of advantages. Cheap labor for undesirable jobs and the potential to undercut labor unions, especially those trying to organize agricultural workers, are two I can think of off the top of my head.

    It is the same old tactic always used: you get the masses confused about who their real enemies are and who is messing them up, and how. Hollywood is one of the biggest tools in the toolkit for accomplishing this. It is true racism is deplorable and depicting it as deplorable is not a bad thing. It is good to expose its ugliness, ignorance and stupidity. It isn’t necessarily fair to associate it with people who recognize the present arrangements undercut their self interest. If Hollywood would show the mental incompetence of racism and at the same time what’s perpetuating this broken immigration system then that would be great. This fails and it worries me.

  11. November 21, 2019 at 5:55 pm

    Yes, the character’s name was Derek, not Danny. Danny was the younger brother who got popped in the end – and it was karma!

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